There's huge problem with this screenshot: This is through the week ending 2020-04-11. So, you can't compare it to the latest count of COVID-19 deaths.
The number of deaths as of 4/11 was 24,062. At first glance, that's about double the number of deaths reported by the CDC.
But, look at the footnote: Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes.
So, how far back to we need to go to get a complete count from the CDC? I don't know, but we can work backwards to find out. For each date, CDC is from the table, WI is from the above URL:
Spez: all numbers are total numbers of deaths as of the week ending date. I added up the weekly number of deaths.
4/11, CDC: 11,356, WI: 24,062
4/04, CDC: 7,714, WI: 10,384
3/28, CDC: 2,802, WI: 2,754
3/22, CDC: 517, WI: 509
As you can see, the data converged to essentially the same values the week of 3/28.
But, what the originator of this screenshot really should have done: look at the latest data from the CDC:
What's the difference between the screenshot and the most recent data? SS is screenshot, CD is current data:
4/11: SS: 3,542, CD: 12,262
4/04, SS: 5,012, CD: 8,082
3/28, SS: 2,285, CD: 2,712
Are you starting to see the problem? These "revisions" are simply updating old data. Since the screenshot was made, I can see changes as long ago as the week ending 2/8.
So, let's repeat the same comparison between the CDC data and WorldInfometer data:
4/25, CDC: 37,308, WI: 54,256
4/18, CDC: 34,037, WI: 39,331
4/11, CDC: 23,629, WI: 24,062
As you can see, the number of deaths converged rapidly as you go back a couple of weeks.
The moral of this story: don't believe a screenshot that omits data.
While all of that is true, it doesnt really change the main points of the original screenshot. Which is to say that this virus is really not much worse than the flu. And we have vaccines for the flu. This virus might be less deadly than the flu.
What part of my posting was wrong? I'm tired of bullshit accusations, especially when I provided you detailed information and references.
Show me what's wrong, or withdraw your accusation.
Your screenshot was two weeks old. But even on your screenshot, it told you why the data appears to show a decline in deaths from COVID-19 in the final two weeks.
Two weeks later, you can see how the data for those weeks has changed. You can see it effects of the lag in data by simply comparing your screenshot to the most recent data.
You made that claim, but even the screenshot you posted showed you were wrong, because it said:
Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes.
Again, what part of my posting was wrong? Be specific, rather than making another claim not supported by the data.
There's huge problem with this screenshot: This is through the week ending 2020-04-11. So, you can't compare it to the latest count of COVID-19 deaths.
From this different source of data:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
The number of deaths as of 4/11 was 24,062. At first glance, that's about double the number of deaths reported by the CDC.
But, look at the footnote: Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes.
So, how far back to we need to go to get a complete count from the CDC? I don't know, but we can work backwards to find out. For each date, CDC is from the table, WI is from the above URL:
Spez: all numbers are total numbers of deaths as of the week ending date. I added up the weekly number of deaths.
As you can see, the data converged to essentially the same values the week of 3/28.
But, what the originator of this screenshot really should have done: look at the latest data from the CDC:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
What's the difference between the screenshot and the most recent data? SS is screenshot, CD is current data:
Are you starting to see the problem? These "revisions" are simply updating old data. Since the screenshot was made, I can see changes as long ago as the week ending 2/8.
So, let's repeat the same comparison between the CDC data and WorldInfometer data:
As you can see, the number of deaths converged rapidly as you go back a couple of weeks.
The moral of this story: don't believe a screenshot that omits data.
Thank you for posting this. Everyone on the thread is misreading the data.
Yeah, but you can see that's an unpopular set of facts.
While all of that is true, it doesnt really change the main points of the original screenshot. Which is to say that this virus is really not much worse than the flu. And we have vaccines for the flu. This virus might be less deadly than the flu.
What part of my posting was wrong? I'm tired of bullshit accusations, especially when I provided you detailed information and references.
Show me what's wrong, or withdraw your accusation.
Your screenshot was two weeks old. But even on your screenshot, it told you why the data appears to show a decline in deaths from COVID-19 in the final two weeks.
Two weeks later, you can see how the data for those weeks has changed. You can see it effects of the lag in data by simply comparing your screenshot to the most recent data.
You made that claim, but even the screenshot you posted showed you were wrong, because it said:
Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes.
Again, what part of my posting was wrong? Be specific, rather than making another claim not supported by the data.