Now sue their asses for their assets in compensation for their assault on your civil liberties. Seek Punitive damages at the maximum level ... Salt their world.
There needs to be massive numbers of lawsuits, and not just against the states, but the officials personally. There needs to be actual punitive damages levied against THEIR livelihood, and not just them getting away with paying out taxpayer money.
Individual officers who enforce unconstitutional laws need to be sued. Playing Gestapo would get old real fast if they knew their uniform and their "just following orders" excuse won't protect them from financial ruin. The left is constantly using lawsuits to strike fear into their opposition. It's high time the right starts doing the same.
While we can stop LEOs from the unconstitutional bs, unfortunately they are protected from having to bear the financial burden of lawsuits against them. I hope I'm wrong about this. We need class action lawsuits, worded so that everyone affected in the State can share the cost of the one legal action. That's how we win.
We also need to name the Governor; we CAN sue against their own personal wealth. There are maybe 10 that aren't guilty of mass murder.
Class action lawsuits against the Governor. Draw it up so that everyone affected in the State can sign on. That way we bear the cost among us all, and we win. If we try to do this individually they draw it out forever and run up the cost; that's how they win. Make sure to include the charge of mass murder. Deny sick people medicine? Let the lawyer figure out the proper charge, but they don't get out for that. The most convictions any mass murderer in the US has is 8 murders. Very few Governors are guilty of fewer than 8 preventable deaths.
Unfortunately there are a lot of protections for sitting representatives and government officials when they are acting in the capacity of their job, no matter how right or wrong their decisions are or their impact.
Basically you can sue for damages but usually not based on a violation of rights until that is already established. A violation of rights means you sue for an injunction and establish that first. States technically have immunity in federal court and so do state actors (commissioners, administrators, etc) under most circumstances in terms of financial damages, it's known as "sovereign state immunity."
You can sue a state in its own court (of claims usually) for damages but this would be more of a situation where you had a civil claim that was tangible financial damage. Something like a city vehicle side swiped your parked car or whatever.
They just don't have the jurisdiction to take on civil rights cases in most circumstances and will likely pass the buck or simply reject based on that.
Mass murder is an open and shut case. Lots of legal jargon for it, that's what lawyers are for. There is TONS of evidence that denying a person medicine when they're sick is a bad idea. Any type of infection shares the characteristic that the earlier you treat it, the better. This stuff multiplies and it ain't healthy.
About 40 Governors are denying medicine to sick people until they're in such horrible shape that they need to be admitted to the hospital with CCPvirus. It shouldn't be difficult to realize that this is NOT a good idea, regardless of what sort of treatment is involved. Many people turned away from any medical care when they test positive cannot physically return to get medical care after they think they're in bad enough shape to be admitted. Then they die. Others make it but are too far gone to save, and die.
All those deaths are preventable. All those are directly caused by the Governor. Contrast that to SD, where once you test positive you can get "whatever you need," and are included on a Statewide study. SD has 12 x lower IFR than the National average. Dr Zelnko gets 38 X lower IFR and hospitalizations than the National average. This tells me not everyone in SD is using Dr Z's protocol, but it's not because the Governor has forbidden it. And that Governor has access to all the same information every other Governor does.
The only reason these other Governors deny sick people medicine in a pandemic is because they want to kill as many as possible, and they want the crisis to continue as long as possible. They want you to lose your job and your employer to go under. They want the Fed to bail out State and local governments until the national debt is grotesquely out of whack with gdp, and everybody knows we can never pay it back.
This is the face of evil. Governors are our only visible enemy right now (with the exception of the few States where your Governor is ok but you're still having problems; then you need to focus on your Mayor)
They're just proving the anti-vac people right with this shit. Just not in the way most would think. No sense relying on healthcare when you can't afford or obtain it anyways. Ik I don't.
I don't know about all that man. I know that when the Government starts restricting people's movement and freedom of assembly without due process and without being subjected to the standard of strict constitutional scrutiny, that they are violating our civil rights.
I'm not sure taking it to the "we need to start charging them with murder" level is going to help anything. I mean, murder trials take years just to assemble let alone try and convict in court. Then there are appeals. Certainly seems unrealistic at least as far as actually getting charges to stick or get these restrictions to go away sooner.
On the other hand a simple and well constructed court filing in federal court could lead to an actual injunction or court order for these emergency executive orders to be reviewed or rewritten or whatever.
No court action will change anything soon enough to matter. Denying sick people medicine is criminally insane. It started with Cuomo and probably at least 40 Governors have repeated that mistake. Citizen's arrest is perfectly legal when we stop a felony in progress. 20,000 at each State Capitol all at the same time insures nobody gets hurt. Our founding Fathers did not sue King George, and they were mostly lawyers. If we want anything to change, we have to change it. Yes, Court actions take years. The lasting changes will come through the Courts. We do this and the rest of our enemies retreat. We get all our rights back, including the right to free and fair elections.
Now sue their asses for their assets in compensation for their assault on your civil liberties. Seek Punitive damages at the maximum level ... Salt their world.
There needs to be massive numbers of lawsuits, and not just against the states, but the officials personally. There needs to be actual punitive damages levied against THEIR livelihood, and not just them getting away with paying out taxpayer money.
Rope.
Individual officers who enforce unconstitutional laws need to be sued. Playing Gestapo would get old real fast if they knew their uniform and their "just following orders" excuse won't protect them from financial ruin. The left is constantly using lawsuits to strike fear into their opposition. It's high time the right starts doing the same.
While we can stop LEOs from the unconstitutional bs, unfortunately they are protected from having to bear the financial burden of lawsuits against them. I hope I'm wrong about this. We need class action lawsuits, worded so that everyone affected in the State can share the cost of the one legal action. That's how we win.
We also need to name the Governor; we CAN sue against their own personal wealth. There are maybe 10 that aren't guilty of mass murder.
Class action lawsuits against the Governor. Draw it up so that everyone affected in the State can sign on. That way we bear the cost among us all, and we win. If we try to do this individually they draw it out forever and run up the cost; that's how they win. Make sure to include the charge of mass murder. Deny sick people medicine? Let the lawyer figure out the proper charge, but they don't get out for that. The most convictions any mass murderer in the US has is 8 murders. Very few Governors are guilty of fewer than 8 preventable deaths.
FLYNN!
Class action, one suit per State ideally. Against the Governor! They need to die in prison as paupers.
If you're in a State that the Governor isn't a mass murderer and is also otherwise ok, of you're still having problems look at your Mayor.
Burn the fields, salt the ashes.
Can you flesh out what exactly you mean by that? If you look at my above post I mention 1 specific, but you might have something else in mind?
Unfortunately there are a lot of protections for sitting representatives and government officials when they are acting in the capacity of their job, no matter how right or wrong their decisions are or their impact.
Basically you can sue for damages but usually not based on a violation of rights until that is already established. A violation of rights means you sue for an injunction and establish that first. States technically have immunity in federal court and so do state actors (commissioners, administrators, etc) under most circumstances in terms of financial damages, it's known as "sovereign state immunity."
You can sue a state in its own court (of claims usually) for damages but this would be more of a situation where you had a civil claim that was tangible financial damage. Something like a city vehicle side swiped your parked car or whatever. They just don't have the jurisdiction to take on civil rights cases in most circumstances and will likely pass the buck or simply reject based on that.
Mass murder is an open and shut case. Lots of legal jargon for it, that's what lawyers are for. There is TONS of evidence that denying a person medicine when they're sick is a bad idea. Any type of infection shares the characteristic that the earlier you treat it, the better. This stuff multiplies and it ain't healthy.
About 40 Governors are denying medicine to sick people until they're in such horrible shape that they need to be admitted to the hospital with CCPvirus. It shouldn't be difficult to realize that this is NOT a good idea, regardless of what sort of treatment is involved. Many people turned away from any medical care when they test positive cannot physically return to get medical care after they think they're in bad enough shape to be admitted. Then they die. Others make it but are too far gone to save, and die.
All those deaths are preventable. All those are directly caused by the Governor. Contrast that to SD, where once you test positive you can get "whatever you need," and are included on a Statewide study. SD has 12 x lower IFR than the National average. Dr Zelnko gets 38 X lower IFR and hospitalizations than the National average. This tells me not everyone in SD is using Dr Z's protocol, but it's not because the Governor has forbidden it. And that Governor has access to all the same information every other Governor does.
The only reason these other Governors deny sick people medicine in a pandemic is because they want to kill as many as possible, and they want the crisis to continue as long as possible. They want you to lose your job and your employer to go under. They want the Fed to bail out State and local governments until the national debt is grotesquely out of whack with gdp, and everybody knows we can never pay it back.
This is the face of evil. Governors are our only visible enemy right now (with the exception of the few States where your Governor is ok but you're still having problems; then you need to focus on your Mayor)
They're just proving the anti-vac people right with this shit. Just not in the way most would think. No sense relying on healthcare when you can't afford or obtain it anyways. Ik I don't.
Heh, funny you should mention that. I haven't had health insurance since 1991.
I don't know about all that man. I know that when the Government starts restricting people's movement and freedom of assembly without due process and without being subjected to the standard of strict constitutional scrutiny, that they are violating our civil rights.
I'm not sure taking it to the "we need to start charging them with murder" level is going to help anything. I mean, murder trials take years just to assemble let alone try and convict in court. Then there are appeals. Certainly seems unrealistic at least as far as actually getting charges to stick or get these restrictions to go away sooner.
On the other hand a simple and well constructed court filing in federal court could lead to an actual injunction or court order for these emergency executive orders to be reviewed or rewritten or whatever.
No court action will change anything soon enough to matter. Denying sick people medicine is criminally insane. It started with Cuomo and probably at least 40 Governors have repeated that mistake. Citizen's arrest is perfectly legal when we stop a felony in progress. 20,000 at each State Capitol all at the same time insures nobody gets hurt. Our founding Fathers did not sue King George, and they were mostly lawyers. If we want anything to change, we have to change it. Yes, Court actions take years. The lasting changes will come through the Courts. We do this and the rest of our enemies retreat. We get all our rights back, including the right to free and fair elections.
Evil prevails when good men do nothing.