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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Out on a limb" Is that always how you describe a new idea?

"Ultimately cost lives, at least indirectly and in the long term"

For THE PAST TWO MONTHS!! There is nothing iffy or future about this, and it is crime completed. Unfortunately it's also ongoing. 88% of people on ventilators die. I haven't seen data for total hospitalized. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that ANY infection is better off treated earlier rather than later. Making sick people wait to get medicine until they're half dead and can be admitted to a hospital makes NO sense. There is malice involved.

SD has a IFR of 12 x less than the National average; once you test positive you get "whatever you need" and are included in a Statewide study. Guaranteed they're not all following Dr Zulenko's protocol because that gets a 95% reduction. Repeated throughout the entire Country of Brazil.

If I know this, no Governor has an excuse.

There are no "laws" involved. Governors have issued royal decrees. They have no business interfering with a Dr and patient. They have influenced other organizations, including those that discipline Drs and pharmacists. SD demonstrates one Governor can very well make all the difference.

If injunctions need to be filed, file them. We should not be at the mercy of "friendly" Courts.

The most murders I can find anyone convicted of in the US is 8. Very few Governors are responsible for fewer than 8 preventable deaths. Denying sick people medicine is criminal. It's also cruel and unusual. It should be very easy to paint this as against the interests of the Nation and it's people.

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KuhlooKuhlay 0 points ago +1 / -1

There is no way that any state Governor will be convicted of murder or manslaughter charges. That is what I am saying to you. It's like wanting HRC and Obama to be hanged for treason. It's just simply not going to happen. Not sure why I have to spend time explaining this to you.

If you are a true believer then my message is "calm down and slow your roll" because it is more important to stop the bleeding as far as the damage that's already been done and to prevent more damage in the future. I'm not worried about who bears responsibility while people are still suffering and having their civil rights violated.

I would sacrifice any and all fantasies of criminal justice and punitive damages in terms of this issue in favor of a quick and swift resolution and overturning of all barriers that people are suffering from now. You are focusing on the wrong side of this- the punishment side- instead of the resolution/solution side.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

If nobody gets convicted for their crimes nobody is deterred from committing the same crimes in the future. And nobody is going to stop causing needless suffering, be that medical or civil rights being violated.

Same with voter fraud. Nobody's gone to jail for it yet, why won't they triple their efforts this November?

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KuhlooKuhlay 0 points ago +1 / -1

I don't know... Landmark civil rights cases have a tendency to stick so I disagree.

Voter fraud has a legislative solution: voter ID and other measures, as criminal penalties aren't even that severe (under 5 years and often just probation) when they do catch people. States are doing the right thing you also need people in office (usually Secretary of State) to keep up maintenance on the voter rolls. I have a Grandmother who is terminally ill and a registered Democrat in a swing state. I'd be shocked if she doesn't end up voting as a dead person in November. The reason this type of thing happens because dead people remain on the rolls often for several elections and sometimes over a decade (especially if people keep voting for them fraudulently).

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Legislative solution" You're being as ridiculous as leftists claiming we need more gun laws. Nobody's gone to jail for voter fraud. More laws will not improve that situation, but back to the topic at hand:

what % of people die on ventilators?

what % of hospitalizations and deaths can be reduced following Dr Zulenko's protocol?

What Governor demonstrates one Governor can make all the difference?

You fail to grasp the situation. Look at these three data points and you'll see my point. Governors are trying to kill as many people as possible.

Your pretense that We the People can accomplish nothing is exactly what was said before the Revolutionary War. Where do you get that idea? Did you grow up being taught that dodgeball is too dangerous to play? Those people got 4 limbs tied to 4 different horses who then ran off in four different directions. Drawn and quartered, it was called. You might want to change your opinion, and learn what "patriot" means.