There is no way that any state Governor will be convicted of murder or manslaughter charges. That is what I am saying to you. It's like wanting HRC and Obama to be hanged for treason. It's just simply not going to happen. Not sure why I have to spend time explaining this to you.
If you are a true believer then my message is "calm down and slow your roll" because it is more important to stop the bleeding as far as the damage that's already been done and to prevent more damage in the future. I'm not worried about who bears responsibility while people are still suffering and having their civil rights violated.
I would sacrifice any and all fantasies of criminal justice and punitive damages in terms of this issue in favor of a quick and swift resolution and overturning of all barriers that people are suffering from now. You are focusing on the wrong side of this- the punishment side- instead of the resolution/solution side.
If nobody gets convicted for their crimes nobody is deterred from committing the same crimes in the future. And nobody is going to stop causing needless suffering,
be that medical or civil rights being violated.
Same with voter fraud. Nobody's gone to jail for it yet, why won't they triple their efforts this November?
I don't know... Landmark civil rights cases have a tendency to stick so I disagree.
Voter fraud has a legislative solution: voter ID and other measures, as criminal penalties aren't even that severe (under 5 years and often just probation) when they do catch people. States are doing the right thing you also need people in office (usually Secretary of State) to keep up maintenance on the voter rolls. I have a Grandmother who is terminally ill and a registered Democrat in a swing state. I'd be shocked if she doesn't end up voting as a dead person in November. The reason this type of thing happens because dead people remain on the rolls often for several elections and sometimes over a decade (especially if people keep voting for them fraudulently).
"Legislative solution" You're being as ridiculous as leftists claiming we need more gun laws. Nobody's gone to jail for voter fraud. More laws will not improve that situation, but back to the topic at hand:
what % of people die on ventilators?
what % of hospitalizations and deaths can be reduced following Dr Zulenko's protocol?
What Governor demonstrates one Governor can make all the difference?
You fail to grasp the situation. Look at these three data points and you'll see my point. Governors are trying to kill as many people as possible.
Your pretense that We the People can accomplish nothing is exactly what was said before the Revolutionary War. Where do you get that idea? Did you grow up being taught that dodgeball is too dangerous to play? Those people got 4 limbs tied to 4 different horses who then ran off in four different directions. Drawn and quartered, it was called. You might want to change your opinion, and learn what "patriot" means.
Legislative solution as in stronger voter ID laws.
I'm not interested in doing research. You provide the numbers if you think it proves something. But, let me be clear: I am against the lockdowns. We want the same thing the only difference is you have gotten a hard-on for charging people with mass murder while I am a sensible person with a more realistic political wish list. On this issue it reads: no more government imposed intervention on the private sector, period! Is that clear enough for you? I want this all to end ASAP I just think that filing murder charges is a bridge too far and counterproductive in terms of actually accomplishing anything. If you refuse to understand that and accept out differences then you are a crazy person or a shill but either way you are barking up the wrong tree.
The main (see: only) goal for me actually is to get Trump re-elected, win or make gains in the House and Senate and get the economy back where it was in February. Beyond that everything is really secondary. COVID is already running its course to completion and it hasn't even been 90 days. If people actually died and you can prove it then that information isn't going anywhere. There's no statute of limitations on murder so if your case is so iron clad what exactly is the rush? I would think a right wing movement to charge Andrew Cuomo with murder would make for great fodder for the media who is trying to push a draft Cuomo movement. So it seems like a good chance that you are a shill.
For the record, I was an excellent dodgeball player and I think that's it's completely moronic to question someone's patriotism because they don't want to go to the unrealistic extremes that you do. That's a Leftist mentality my friend. I don't question your patriotism at all, I simply question your desired methods and your seriousness and sanity. Again, we want the same thing so I don't get why are you questioning my character, patriotism, etc. unless you are a some kind of complete fucking miserable asshole. Based on what? Because I don't think it's a sensible idea to charge Andrew Cuomo with mass murder that makes me unpatriotic?
There is no way that any state Governor will be convicted of murder or manslaughter charges. That is what I am saying to you. It's like wanting HRC and Obama to be hanged for treason. It's just simply not going to happen. Not sure why I have to spend time explaining this to you.
If you are a true believer then my message is "calm down and slow your roll" because it is more important to stop the bleeding as far as the damage that's already been done and to prevent more damage in the future. I'm not worried about who bears responsibility while people are still suffering and having their civil rights violated.
I would sacrifice any and all fantasies of criminal justice and punitive damages in terms of this issue in favor of a quick and swift resolution and overturning of all barriers that people are suffering from now. You are focusing on the wrong side of this- the punishment side- instead of the resolution/solution side.
If nobody gets convicted for their crimes nobody is deterred from committing the same crimes in the future. And nobody is going to stop causing needless suffering, be that medical or civil rights being violated.
Same with voter fraud. Nobody's gone to jail for it yet, why won't they triple their efforts this November?
I don't know... Landmark civil rights cases have a tendency to stick so I disagree.
Voter fraud has a legislative solution: voter ID and other measures, as criminal penalties aren't even that severe (under 5 years and often just probation) when they do catch people. States are doing the right thing you also need people in office (usually Secretary of State) to keep up maintenance on the voter rolls. I have a Grandmother who is terminally ill and a registered Democrat in a swing state. I'd be shocked if she doesn't end up voting as a dead person in November. The reason this type of thing happens because dead people remain on the rolls often for several elections and sometimes over a decade (especially if people keep voting for them fraudulently).
"Legislative solution" You're being as ridiculous as leftists claiming we need more gun laws. Nobody's gone to jail for voter fraud. More laws will not improve that situation, but back to the topic at hand:
what % of people die on ventilators?
what % of hospitalizations and deaths can be reduced following Dr Zulenko's protocol?
What Governor demonstrates one Governor can make all the difference?
You fail to grasp the situation. Look at these three data points and you'll see my point. Governors are trying to kill as many people as possible.
Your pretense that We the People can accomplish nothing is exactly what was said before the Revolutionary War. Where do you get that idea? Did you grow up being taught that dodgeball is too dangerous to play? Those people got 4 limbs tied to 4 different horses who then ran off in four different directions. Drawn and quartered, it was called. You might want to change your opinion, and learn what "patriot" means.
Let me dissect this bullshit piece by piece:
Legislative solution as in stronger voter ID laws.
I'm not interested in doing research. You provide the numbers if you think it proves something. But, let me be clear: I am against the lockdowns. We want the same thing the only difference is you have gotten a hard-on for charging people with mass murder while I am a sensible person with a more realistic political wish list. On this issue it reads: no more government imposed intervention on the private sector, period! Is that clear enough for you? I want this all to end ASAP I just think that filing murder charges is a bridge too far and counterproductive in terms of actually accomplishing anything. If you refuse to understand that and accept out differences then you are a crazy person or a shill but either way you are barking up the wrong tree.
The main (see: only) goal for me actually is to get Trump re-elected, win or make gains in the House and Senate and get the economy back where it was in February. Beyond that everything is really secondary. COVID is already running its course to completion and it hasn't even been 90 days. If people actually died and you can prove it then that information isn't going anywhere. There's no statute of limitations on murder so if your case is so iron clad what exactly is the rush? I would think a right wing movement to charge Andrew Cuomo with murder would make for great fodder for the media who is trying to push a draft Cuomo movement. So it seems like a good chance that you are a shill.
For the record, I was an excellent dodgeball player and I think that's it's completely moronic to question someone's patriotism because they don't want to go to the unrealistic extremes that you do. That's a Leftist mentality my friend. I don't question your patriotism at all, I simply question your desired methods and your seriousness and sanity. Again, we want the same thing so I don't get why are you questioning my character, patriotism, etc. unless you are a some kind of complete fucking miserable asshole. Based on what? Because I don't think it's a sensible idea to charge Andrew Cuomo with mass murder that makes me unpatriotic?