No, when it comes to former presidents, even foreign born pieces of shit like Obama, the doj won't, and probably shouldn't do shit. We can get his underlings (and bosses), but prosecuting ex-presidents is a bell that can never be un rung.
If we are there, then we might as well dissolve the union because it's sure as shit dead.
Edit:
I get it, you disagree.
I'm not sure why you think Obama was born in the US.
Or was it that Obama was a piece of shit?
Maybe that his underlings and bosses will likely (and should) be prosecuted?
Was it when I pointed out that the DOJ won't do anything to Obama? Because they won't.
Now it is fair to argue if they should. O would personally like him in a cell at gitmo, but at the price of our nation? He's not worth the dissolution of the United States. And make no mistake, that is what a prosecution of ANY president will result in.
You may disagree that as soon as 1 president is prosecuted that one of (or both, in sequence) the following two things will happen. Every president will be prosecuted after their term. And/or every president will stock the courts and DA's with people personally loyal to them, rather than to the Law. It's certainly true that the Dems have created a swamp where many are loyal to the cause, and by extension to the person heading it. Once it becomes an issue of personal loyalty, a dictator is the only end result.
Good news! We are armed. And should the prosecution of a president happen, I am prepared for what's next. But I would prefer to never have to use my arms to protect myself from the government. I'm willing to should the need arises, but I'm not looking for it to happen.
Look, I understand the desire to get that cocksucker for his crime. Hell, I want him too, but I'm not willing to lose the country to do it.
BTW, I make plenty of room for me being wrong. I could be. But given the emotional response to my comment, I doubt it.
Any former "President" who actively attempts to disrupt the peaceful transition of power needs to be tried, convicted, and hung/shot.
To say it is not okay to set a precedent of charging former elected officials (including the highest office) of sedition, but it is okay to set a precedent of ignoring said crimes is an ignorant argument at best.
No one, no matter whom they may be, should ever be above the law because....optics.
To be clear, anyone who willfully enacts laws that contradict the bill of rights, or who acts in any way that uses the powers given to them. by their electoral bodies, to infringe upon the rights of another citizen, or who attempts to disrupt any lawful electoral process of the government of the United States, should be swiftly tried; and, if found guilty, face the full punishment prescribed for treason or sedition.
While i see the slippery slope of charging the outgoing president, it should be only allowed if direct hard evidence is found not hearsay of erikkk cia_ramella etc.
You might want to inform the Democrats, who have been openly fantasizing about indicting and prosecuting President Trump (based on no evidence) for the past three years.
They have made it clear that Presidents can be prosecuted after leaving office and they have vocally supported doing it, so they can sit back and STFU when 0bama faces justice for the very real crimes he committed while in office.
Honestly the only reason is that it would likely drag a large portion of the DC corruption into the light of day and spawn the second American Revolution.
Because once you prosecute (and convict) a president, to the point where the charges brought up can even be punishable by death, is extremely dangerous. This would open the doors for any President after his term to be prosecuted, and then every time there is a president of the other party then anyone not on their side will just be focused on removing them instead of attempting to even try and work together. It would cause extreme division moving forward.
I expect even if a president like Obama got arrested, and the trial actually went forward and he was found guilty, trump would immediately pardon him. Or so intuition tells me, but Trump may be taking this very personally and I also would not be surprised if he did let him go to prison regardless of the dangers of that.
The President should be held to a higher standard, everyone's actions have consequences and if Obama broke the law while in office and knew what was going on, he should be punished. I'd be crushed but if GEOTUS did this on his way out (he won't) I think you'll find most people here would expect the same, because it's about Justice and our Republic's principals.
I totally get what you're saying, and yes the President should be to the highest standard, meaning the BEST we can elect. Just not to a higher standard legally. There are countless laws on the books. Each of us supposedly breaks laws daily and we don't know it. We can't start arresting presidents for little stuff, which is what comes with the territory when people expect higher standards.
Little stuff? Little stuff like using the FISA court to illegally spy on a presidential candidate while using the FBI and CIA like your own personal Gestapo? Yeah that sounds like straight up treason to me.
The President, by being elected to the highest ranking representative position, is given THE MOST POWER and authority of any single citizen.
It should be made perfectly clear that ANY deliberate misuse of their power WILL be dealt with swiftly, fairly, and severely.
For God's sake, we allow these men to decide if we go to war. They literally have the power of life and death over our citizenry. If they aren't held to the strictest accountability for their actions, who should be?
I do agree with what you are saying, but who’s to say that a couple presidents down the line we don’t get an absolute tyrant who jails all his political opponents on random allegations. The highest profile jailed politician in recent times I believe was the governor of Illinois, for selling Obama senate seat, and trump pardoned him.
I would suggest the only charge allowed should be punishable by death. Treason. I do see the complication though so get him for conspiracy before or after his term. Find the comms.
This is a legitimate question. As worthless as Obama is, Brennan is the epitome of CIA scum. That being said, I still wouldn't be surprised one bit either way.
yep, up until recently i gave Comey the benefit of doubt, thinking he got played or whatever. But now with all this, its clear the conspiracy was vast and way more complex then anyone imagined. I bet, much of it would be answered when we find out exactly what they were using the HAM radio for
doesn't add up to what? Obama knows Flynn is aware of where all the shit intelligence comes from. He is also able to review records that would have blown the doors to spygate in Trumps first 3 months. not years...
In my opinion, the explanation you're looking for is hubris.
Obama thought he had the deck stacked and simply wasn't prepared for the level of "don't give a fuck" that Trump has hard wired into his DNA. Any other Republican that the Dems have ever dealt with, going back to Teddy Roosevelt, would have utterly caved and resigned after three days of the legal and political pressure that Trump just shrugged off for the last 3 years.
He didnt think he did. If you read Robby Mooks books, his impression of Trump after they met is that he knows nothing. Of course Mook put it in a general context. However I believe that was Obama reporting to Mook whether Trump had any suspicions. Little does Obama know that making people feel comfortable in a 1 on 1 situation is one of Trumps gift.
i think you misunderstood my comment. Obama made that comment not me. All i said is that Trump has a gift of making people feel comfortable 1 on 1. From there moment Admiral Rogers visited Trump at Trump tower, Trump was 100% aware of the shenanigans.
it took time to fire all the mafia bosses, sit 150 judges and prosecutor teams outside of DC, they had to do their jobs and the investigations, while federal workers require IG reports and due defense, you can't claim they didn't follow procedure and the law when not doing it yourself.
super high stakes, all coming together now.. the stage is finally set.. Flynn's case is the pin in the grenade.
Bro... You are seeing it. Don't let others think for you. That is a big part of the problem with many people. Think for yourself. It's okay if you are angry or frustrated. In fact you very much should be. I am and have been furious for a very long time. But this is huge. This is a war. And we are conscious of the injustice and corruption and evil doings. We are awake. That is a major victory in this battle. But you have to change your attitude because you can't fight when you are demoralized and down. That is what they want. That is another reason why they have their propaganda. Change your attitude and help wake up others. We need to continue to reach others. We are American patriots that fight for justice and against evil. This tyranny by this brood of vipers is worth going to war until we grind each and every one of them into dust.
Flynn is the man that pulled the pin out of the grenade. And it happened before Donald Trump even became president. It happened when he had the courage to speak out.
My hope is that they need a rock-solid case, and they want the big fish, not some.fall guys, and they are playing the long game while making these swamp rats sweat and panic waiting for the trap to close on them. Or our justice system is fucked beyond control and these people have the money and influence to make this all disappear.
Stone and Flynn are heroes. Whatever the current circumstances the truth is that they are heroes. Stone will be set free, he should be exonerated as well. It was a total injustice and a disgrace. Flynn is going to be fully exonerated. This whole charade allowed the evildoers to dig their graves deeper and deeper. Little did they know that all the while they were setting their own traps and digging their own graves.
Stop basing your overall mentality on the immediate gratification that comes from a certain outcome/event. Instead base it on a set of higher principles. For example, you know the dark and egregious truths, you know the hard truths. Truth is a higher principle. You know we are dealing with an enemy/enemies. Guess what? Once we have identified our enemy we can punish and destroy them.
Some say he is eligible to be VP, but it's worse than that... much worse... third term worse.
You get the wrong judge and it's possible... In other words eligible because he's not being elected:
The 12th Amendment states that no one “ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States.” The 22nd Amendment — the “not Franklin Delano Roosevelt again” amendment — states that “no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.”
John Pedosta invented the story during Hillary's tantrum to calm her down. Obama may have approved the propagation of the story, but it was conceived at Hillary's glass ceiling party after she threw a six figure bottle of champagne into a television.
They better have him on tape or someone rolling over on him like Michelle and Reggie drop trow and go in dry.
Unless the process has already started, it wouldn't be completed before the election. They'd run the clock. Maybe that's why they'll do anything to protect Biden
Barr/Durham drop the hammer and watch all this “pandemic” BS go out the window like it never happened. I guarantee it. If Democrats get indicted the veil will fall.
Not to be a downer, but isn’t “WH” in the context of this document actually referring to Trump’s White House? It looks like it’s talking about whether or not to give him a defensive briefing regarding Flynn.
Can Devin Nunes please file articles of impeachment against candidate Joe Biden? He won't ever be President mind you, but lets start this impeachment BS early just to show what payback looks like.
Bob Ama is B Obama
Hugh Mungous is M Obama
Big Mike?
Big hands and a bigger buldge.
Big hands, big traps, massive bulge.
Michael put it back in ur pants
Ahhh - Hugh Mungous - hilarious video!!
The unredacted footnotes to the IG Report?
Things the DOJ won't do anything about.
No, when it comes to former presidents, even foreign born pieces of shit like Obama, the doj won't, and probably shouldn't do shit. We can get his underlings (and bosses), but prosecuting ex-presidents is a bell that can never be un rung.
If we are there, then we might as well dissolve the union because it's sure as shit dead.
Edit:
I get it, you disagree.
I'm not sure why you think Obama was born in the US.
Or was it that Obama was a piece of shit?
Maybe that his underlings and bosses will likely (and should) be prosecuted?
Was it when I pointed out that the DOJ won't do anything to Obama? Because they won't.
Now it is fair to argue if they should. O would personally like him in a cell at gitmo, but at the price of our nation? He's not worth the dissolution of the United States. And make no mistake, that is what a prosecution of ANY president will result in.
You may disagree that as soon as 1 president is prosecuted that one of (or both, in sequence) the following two things will happen. Every president will be prosecuted after their term. And/or every president will stock the courts and DA's with people personally loyal to them, rather than to the Law. It's certainly true that the Dems have created a swamp where many are loyal to the cause, and by extension to the person heading it. Once it becomes an issue of personal loyalty, a dictator is the only end result.
Good news! We are armed. And should the prosecution of a president happen, I am prepared for what's next. But I would prefer to never have to use my arms to protect myself from the government. I'm willing to should the need arises, but I'm not looking for it to happen.
Look, I understand the desire to get that cocksucker for his crime. Hell, I want him too, but I'm not willing to lose the country to do it.
BTW, I make plenty of room for me being wrong. I could be. But given the emotional response to my comment, I doubt it.
Any former "President" who actively attempts to disrupt the peaceful transition of power needs to be tried, convicted, and hung/shot.
To say it is not okay to set a precedent of charging former elected officials (including the highest office) of sedition, but it is okay to set a precedent of ignoring said crimes is an ignorant argument at best.
No one, no matter whom they may be, should ever be above the law because....optics.
I agree with you 100%.
To be clear, anyone who willfully enacts laws that contradict the bill of rights, or who acts in any way that uses the powers given to them. by their electoral bodies, to infringe upon the rights of another citizen, or who attempts to disrupt any lawful electoral process of the government of the United States, should be swiftly tried; and, if found guilty, face the full punishment prescribed for treason or sedition.
While i see the slippery slope of charging the outgoing president, it should be only allowed if direct hard evidence is found not hearsay of erikkk cia_ramella etc.
To date, have you not seen enough hard evidence regarding this coup?
What keeps you on the fence?
CNN said this is all a conspiracy theory sumthin’ muh without evidence
I agree, it;s one thing to look past shit they have done in office, it's another when they are committing treason both in and out of office.
You might want to inform the Democrats, who have been openly fantasizing about indicting and prosecuting President Trump (based on no evidence) for the past three years.
They have made it clear that Presidents can be prosecuted after leaving office and they have vocally supported doing it, so they can sit back and STFU when 0bama faces justice for the very real crimes he committed while in office.
Umm, no evidence? Have you considered orange man bad?
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Why is prosecuting ex-presidents bad and why should we not expect the democrats to prosecute Trump the SECOND they next get into power?
Honestly the only reason is that it would likely drag a large portion of the DC corruption into the light of day and spawn the second American Revolution.
Because once you prosecute (and convict) a president, to the point where the charges brought up can even be punishable by death, is extremely dangerous. This would open the doors for any President after his term to be prosecuted, and then every time there is a president of the other party then anyone not on their side will just be focused on removing them instead of attempting to even try and work together. It would cause extreme division moving forward.
I expect even if a president like Obama got arrested, and the trial actually went forward and he was found guilty, trump would immediately pardon him. Or so intuition tells me, but Trump may be taking this very personally and I also would not be surprised if he did let him go to prison regardless of the dangers of that.
The President should be held to a higher standard, everyone's actions have consequences and if Obama broke the law while in office and knew what was going on, he should be punished. I'd be crushed but if GEOTUS did this on his way out (he won't) I think you'll find most people here would expect the same, because it's about Justice and our Republic's principals.
I totally get what you're saying, and yes the President should be to the highest standard, meaning the BEST we can elect. Just not to a higher standard legally. There are countless laws on the books. Each of us supposedly breaks laws daily and we don't know it. We can't start arresting presidents for little stuff, which is what comes with the territory when people expect higher standards.
Little stuff? Little stuff like using the FISA court to illegally spy on a presidential candidate while using the FBI and CIA like your own personal Gestapo? Yeah that sounds like straight up treason to me.
I strongly disagree.
The President, by being elected to the highest ranking representative position, is given THE MOST POWER and authority of any single citizen.
It should be made perfectly clear that ANY deliberate misuse of their power WILL be dealt with swiftly, fairly, and severely.
For God's sake, we allow these men to decide if we go to war. They literally have the power of life and death over our citizenry. If they aren't held to the strictest accountability for their actions, who should be?
I do agree with what you are saying, but who’s to say that a couple presidents down the line we don’t get an absolute tyrant who jails all his political opponents on random allegations. The highest profile jailed politician in recent times I believe was the governor of Illinois, for selling Obama senate seat, and trump pardoned him.
We're already at the point of most of your post.
I would suggest the only charge allowed should be punishable by death. Treason. I do see the complication though so get him for conspiracy before or after his term. Find the comms.
Well you've convinced me that not prosecuting him is the right move.
Hopefully the commie left is as clear thinking when they next take office.
well the only question is have is, did Brennan manipulate Obama, or did Obama just straight up order "Fuck Flynn and Fuck Trump"
I'll go with the second one
I'm pretty sure it was fuck Flynn, fuck Trump, now let me get back to sucking my wife's 10 inch dick!
Impressive length!
lol
Why cant it be both wantes to fuck Flynn and Trump
This is a legitimate question. As worthless as Obama is, Brennan is the epitome of CIA scum. That being said, I still wouldn't be surprised one bit either way.
yep, up until recently i gave Comey the benefit of doubt, thinking he got played or whatever. But now with all this, its clear the conspiracy was vast and way more complex then anyone imagined. I bet, much of it would be answered when we find out exactly what they were using the HAM radio for
doesn't add up to what? Obama knows Flynn is aware of where all the shit intelligence comes from. He is also able to review records that would have blown the doors to spygate in Trumps first 3 months. not years...
In my opinion, the explanation you're looking for is hubris.
Obama thought he had the deck stacked and simply wasn't prepared for the level of "don't give a fuck" that Trump has hard wired into his DNA. Any other Republican that the Dems have ever dealt with, going back to Teddy Roosevelt, would have utterly caved and resigned after three days of the legal and political pressure that Trump just shrugged off for the last 3 years.
He didnt think he did. If you read Robby Mooks books, his impression of Trump after they met is that he knows nothing. Of course Mook put it in a general context. However I believe that was Obama reporting to Mook whether Trump had any suspicions. Little does Obama know that making people feel comfortable in a 1 on 1 situation is one of Trumps gift.
i think you misunderstood my comment. Obama made that comment not me. All i said is that Trump has a gift of making people feel comfortable 1 on 1. From there moment Admiral Rogers visited Trump at Trump tower, Trump was 100% aware of the shenanigans.
Not everyone
Many have yet to take the deep red pill
it took time to fire all the mafia bosses, sit 150 judges and prosecutor teams outside of DC, they had to do their jobs and the investigations, while federal workers require IG reports and due defense, you can't claim they didn't follow procedure and the law when not doing it yourself.
super high stakes, all coming together now.. the stage is finally set.. Flynn's case is the pin in the grenade.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Until then, it's a prick-teasing bitch in high school.
You just needed better lines to get in those panties.
My two favorite lines were:
"Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?"
And
"Hey, let's not turn this date into murder"
Anyway, when I get out I can't wait to vote 100 times, or more, if I live you n Chicago.
Dark Kek
Bro... You are seeing it. Don't let others think for you. That is a big part of the problem with many people. Think for yourself. It's okay if you are angry or frustrated. In fact you very much should be. I am and have been furious for a very long time. But this is huge. This is a war. And we are conscious of the injustice and corruption and evil doings. We are awake. That is a major victory in this battle. But you have to change your attitude because you can't fight when you are demoralized and down. That is what they want. That is another reason why they have their propaganda. Change your attitude and help wake up others. We need to continue to reach others. We are American patriots that fight for justice and against evil. This tyranny by this brood of vipers is worth going to war until we grind each and every one of them into dust.
Flynn is the man that pulled the pin out of the grenade. And it happened before Donald Trump even became president. It happened when he had the courage to speak out.
My hope is that they need a rock-solid case, and they want the big fish, not some.fall guys, and they are playing the long game while making these swamp rats sweat and panic waiting for the trap to close on them. Or our justice system is fucked beyond control and these people have the money and influence to make this all disappear.
No more money. No more influence. Cold. Hard. Justice.
Then what? 😏
Reminds me of watching Colombo; You know what happened in the opening minutes, then watch him build the case for the rest of the time.
Just one more question...
When someone involved is perp walked by 29 FBI agents to jail and gets the same treatment as Stone or Flynn then I will get excited.
Stone and Flynn are heroes. Whatever the current circumstances the truth is that they are heroes. Stone will be set free, he should be exonerated as well. It was a total injustice and a disgrace. Flynn is going to be fully exonerated. This whole charade allowed the evildoers to dig their graves deeper and deeper. Little did they know that all the while they were setting their own traps and digging their own graves.
Stop basing your overall mentality on the immediate gratification that comes from a certain outcome/event. Instead base it on a set of higher principles. For example, you know the dark and egregious truths, you know the hard truths. Truth is a higher principle. You know we are dealing with an enemy/enemies. Guess what? Once we have identified our enemy we can punish and destroy them.
“may have”
lol Fournier is such a douche
https://davidharrisjr.com/steven/new-doc-releases-seem-to-point-to-obama-running-the-scam-investigation/
So that's why they are trying to push Obama as Hilldabeast's vp? So they both can keep avoiding consequences.
Obama isnt eligible for VP. For one to be VP one has to be able to qualify to be elected President, and he does not.
Some say he is eligible to be VP, but it's worse than that... much worse... third term worse. You get the wrong judge and it's possible... In other words eligible because he's not being elected:
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/495580-a-hillary-clinton-barack-obama-ticket-to-replace-joe-biden
You might want to reread that, and pay attention to all the words and how they are phrased.
Protip, he IS allowed.
He already served 2 terms. If he was VP and the president stepped down, he'd serve a 3rd term, which isn't allowed.
No he’s not.
John Pedosta invented the story during Hillary's tantrum to calm her down. Obama may have approved the propagation of the story, but it was conceived at Hillary's glass ceiling party after she threw a six figure bottle of champagne into a television.
I got super hard when I heard there were emails between Comey and a Hillary campaign stooge
LOCK HIM UP...
They better have him on tape or someone rolling over on him like Michelle and Reggie drop trow and go in dry.
Unless the process has already started, it wouldn't be completed before the election. They'd run the clock. Maybe that's why they'll do anything to protect Biden
https://twitter.com/DavidJHarrisJr/status/1256935288749752321
not gonna lie, I nutted when I saw this
My diamond is dicks per wall made of hour.
Obummer is untouchable. Nothing will happen unfortunately
Good thing nothing will happen.
WE JUST CAN'T STOP WINNING, FOLKS! THE TRUMP TRAIN JUST GOT 10 BILLION MPH FASTER!
CURRENT SPEED: 361,379,385,117,000 MPH!
At that rate, it would take approximately 4.643 years to travel to the Andromeda Galaxy (2.5 million light-years)!
We keep hearing that...how about some action?
If a journalists says "BOMBSHELL"
It's not. It's their usual clickbait because, well, they're worthless faggots.
Nothing will happen. Probably.
What documents. what do they say? I'm over this vague shit. It isn't "huge" until you have something of consequence actually happening.
Barr/Durham drop the hammer and watch all this “pandemic” BS go out the window like it never happened. I guarantee it. If Democrats get indicted the veil will fall.
"may have been..."
Links?? Please??
Will only ever be known on TheDonaldWin
may have
Bwahahahahahaha
...welcome to 2017
TrUsT tHe pLaN
Shit we already know, and those documents won't convince the Karens of anything.
Friend thinks we are getting close to knowing if the people who killed Seth Rich whacked jeffery epstein and Judge Scalia? Friend wants to think so!
Duh.
Relevant Text
Not to be a downer, but isn’t “WH” in the context of this document actually referring to Trump’s White House? It looks like it’s talking about whether or not to give him a defensive briefing regarding Flynn.
"MAY HAVE"
Is it 2018?
I have to imagine Obama will have himself insulated. Comey will be the biggest fish they can get.
It's true.
Can I buy a I told you so, we knew, and a no shit for 1000 Alex?
Nothing will come out of this.
Charge him. Execute him. Kill the pedocrat party. Rewrite history to make them a footnote.
Diamonds are a girl’s best friend. 😏
Can Devin Nunes please file articles of impeachment against candidate Joe Biden? He won't ever be President mind you, but lets start this impeachment BS early just to show what payback looks like.
Wait. Is this 2016?