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ClownTamer 5 points ago +5 / -0

They often have the tools to disagree with their professor, they’re just punished for it, which is the real tragedy. Out here in the Bay Area, it’s pretty common for someone not far left or open minded to take a far left course in a studies program because of breadth requirements, or to try being open minded because if everybody’s believing this stuff maybe there’s something to it? Then they’ll take the course and find the arguments within it wanting, and be asked to write a position paper on something. They’ll write the position paper in disagreement with something, like say the wage gap or capitalism having ‘failed’ or gender being a social construct, working really hard to provide long lists of examples disproving it or at the very least showing it to be unfounded or problematic, things like that. They’re asked to argue for or against a communist type position, and they’ll choose against, and they’ll do a good job of it too because they’ll try extra hard because they actually care and know they’re going against the grain.

Then, they’ll get the paper back. F. The reasons will be listed as vague nonsense, like “you didn’t understand the material,” “you didn’t understand Foucault,” etc, even though there is a very clear and demonstrable understanding of the material, it’s just being disagreed with on a supposedly open assignment where you’re given the option to agree or disagree. They’ll take bright people like that, and when they speak their mind, they are punished for it. To me, this is worse than giving them no tools to disagree because they’re actively taking the tools they do have and breaking them all down and telling them that they are wrong. Imagine trying to learn to ride a bike if any time you balanced and road successfully you were told that’s wrong and pushed to the ground, and that the right way to do it is riding it backwards.

Most people agreeing with the things taught in those courses actually haven’t read or understood it. Most of it is written as ‘militant obscurism’, which is a strategy in writing where you write so convolutedly and backasswardly in an intentional fashion filled with emotion to obscure what it is you’re actually trying to say because if it was said in clear terms it would not at all hold up to any scrutiny. Even smart people have a hard time reading nonsense like that, and they throw it at 18-20 year olds, who kinda skim it maybe if they didn’t just ask the teacher for some notes and they don’t get it and just take a bullet point from it for an essay and get an A.

In that vein, they also teach that logic, reason, and classical forms of argument and communication are toxic, male, and whatever other buzzwords are fashionable. That everyone is just a mouth piece for their social position and class. And everything is a power struggle. That there is no such thing as something being ‘true’, only what you can get someone to believe. Whatever the most people believe is then taken to be true by their new definition.

It goes a lot deeper and worse than people think.

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ripley88 1 point ago +1 / -0

"You just didn't understand it." Reminds me of Donnie Darko fan boys 🙄

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ClownTamer 4 points ago +4 / -0

You’ll also see movies liked and praised in direct proportion to how little they have to offer, and how they systematically skirted all genres and narrative conventions that work. It’s all the same people and the same postmodernism viewpoints behind it. They just try to invert all things and make up words to describe it to make it sound like they’re doing something different.

Sunny days are nice? Fuck the sun. Tasty food is nice? Fuck tasty food, it’s so colonial. Hot chick? More like brainwashed chick oppressed into fulfilling societal standards and norms at the cost of her own inner liberation. You like a book, and it’s written in English? Sorry, I only read books with lots of French words and unfinished endings.

Just look at how the new Star Wars trilogy played out. They just took all the normal archetypes and inverted the genders, then tried killing off all the good characters from the originals in ways entirely uncharacteristic of them. Then whenever a plot point or character development would naturally occur, they decided to cut that and replace it with the opposite. The ending of the new trilogy is hilarious. The main character just decides to identify as something else.

They’re doing that with Last of Us 2, which someone recently leaked. Treat the main character from the last like trash because he’s a white male. Make random characters suddenly gay and hook them up with minorities. Make women and minorities overpowered in direct proportion to how weak they would be in that situation. People dislike stuff like this in part because it’s just bad writing, and in part because it’s really obvious that the entire point is to turn art and media into political attack pieces on the people that were financially funding them as fans. People weren’t paying to be talked to down about political nonsense when they bought a video game.

People wonder why this shit happens, and it’s because of the current college landscape. They teach people to do that and think that way for the first 25-30 years of their life in K12 and college, then they get out in the real world and all they really know how to do is whine and call things racist and use the word colonial like it’s going out of style.

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ClownTamer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks!