If you think any of the police are going to side with the set-us-free protesters, you're delusional. All of them are going to do what they're told.
These guys are in government jobs. They have families, mortgages and kids to raise. Long after the protests are over, they're going to still be employed, getting that paycheck.
Whether it's the coronavirus protest or a 2A protest, they're going to do what they're told, at the point of a gun.
They're basically no different than guys yelling, "Get in the boxcar, Jews!" of Nazi Germany. After the war, their excuse was, "I was only following the orders of my superiors."
It's dumb, but you are supposed to NOT do anything but your job whilst at your job. Police is a job. You can wear the thin blue mask on your private time.
Cops can't show support for other cops killed in the course of doing their job? You think that's wrong? It's not like they're showing support for some external cause, but support for one another.
Wrong is a big word. I'd say you'd best clear it with the department and make it a DEPARTMENT thing and not a YOU thing. Even police union thing would be fine.
I don’t think it’s wrong, but on the other hand I don’t think it’s wrong for the police department to have and enforce uniform standards.
If you can have a special mask, why not a little pin? If you can have a little pin, why not a badge? And if you can have a badge, why not a big t-shirt that says “PAY RISES FOR COPS NOW”? Uniform standards exist for a reason, and I don’t feel like it’s any of my damn business where exactly that line is drawn.
Who gets to decide what's "divisive" and "disrespectful"?
Oh, I forgot, it's those blue-haired, limp-wristed, unemployed, brainwashed college kids who are afraid of everything. Millions of grandfather's rolling in their graves right about now.
Why are gay homeless kids getting their own special financial support instead of just homeless kids in general? And why am I an asshole for being vocally uncomfortable about it?
This is about police officers themselves no longer being allowed to wear them while on-duty because of the political activism aspect to the masks. Okay, fair enough.
Now let's apply that same standard to the policing decisions made by the SF police chief.
Now let's apply that same standard to the policing decisions made by the SF police chief.
Yeah, this is what the issue is. Uniform standards are fine and I think the 'blue line' is masturbatory tough-guy self-righteous bullshit. Exude professionalism and apoliticism.
Why is this news here? Separating Law Enforcement Officers from personal political opinions is a good thing, even if we support the opinion that they are expressing. Their job, while they are wearing a badge and a gun, is to uphold the law, not make political statements.
Asking an honest question here. How is the thin blue line flag political? I see it as, I’m a cop. I support cops.
To me it's drawing a distinction of "us vs. them". Coupled with the bullshit about how cops see themselves as the 'line between order and chaos', or as 'shepherds watching over the sheep', yeah it's no fucking wonder cops let this shit get to their head.
What I think is especially retarded is people who wave Gadsden Flags alongside the Thin Blue Line flags or something like that. Politicians don't enforce laws, cops enforce laws. Every single infringement on our rights has a cop with a gun and a license to kill backing it up.
Cops are not your friends, and they never have been.
It was initially created (according to the article - and from personal recollection) in response to Obama's BLM push against cops. It's totally valid IMO, and certainly supported by this community, but it is a statement that is in response to a political movement. Any LEO wearing it while wearing the uniform is taking a political stance (a VALID and CORRECT stance IMO), but a stance nonetheless.
Bad try, that’s not a Karen response at all. Suck it up, learn some history before agreeing with morons like those at ABC News on what is at best a half-truth.
I guess I was unclear on the origin. Still seems pretty much like wearing your team colors, but if someone wants to be offended bad enough, they’ll find a reason.
The sad thing is that wearing it probably puts them in more danger because the left is unhinged. Not relevant to whether or not they SHOULD be wearing it, but a sad reality nonetheless.
You and I agree, it should absolutely not be acceptable for a LEO, or a judge, or anyone else responsible for upholding the rule of law to openly represent a political opinion while they are performing the duties of their job.
I don't like the idea of the "thin blue line" flag, personally. This is really going to raise some hackles for me to say this, but to me, it's the same as the rainbow flag: it's superfluous, and divisive. It sets up the "us/them" mindset.
We are all united under one flag. The Flag of the United States of America.
I don't like the idea of the "thin blue line" flag, personally. This is really going to raise some hackles for me to say this, but to me, it's the same as the rainbow flag: it's superfluous, and divisive. It sets up the "us/them" mindset.
I'm with you. I would find some other "police flag" less annoying, but because it's a corruption of the American flag I find it particularly distasteful.
"The Law Enforcement Officers' Bill of Rights (LEOBR or LEOBoR) is intended to protect American law enforcement personnel from investigation and prosecution arising from conduct during official performance of their duties, and provides them with privileges based on due process additional to those normally provided to other citizens."
Basically, they're more American than you or me and entitled to more rights.
Think of it this way: they got their own flag, their own bill of rights.
Bring on the downvotes, IDGAF. Learn to accept the truth no matter how bad it looks.
This is not controversial. I don't care if you want to support police and buy thin blue line apparel. But I don't think it's appropriate for on duty police to wear this kind of stuff that puts an emphasis on police being somehow separate from the rest of the population. Just because you have a badge and a gun doesn't mean you deserve more rights and everyone else is just a civilian.
The symbology of the thin blue line is that police are the force that maintains order in society against chaos. In reality- we the people, with our right to bear arms maintain order against tyranny.
Finally, I'd have way less of an issue with thin blue line imagery if they didn't sell shirts with the fucking punisher logo on them. You are a police officer, not my judge, jury, and executioner.
Does anyone else here have a problem with the police and their use of the thin blue line flag?
Their only flag should be the American flag or the state flag. I hate the feeling that they see themselves as outside of Americans. Cops are civilians granted additional power by their community. They are to faithfully execute the duties of that privilege within the oath they took to this country. America. As in the American flag. They did not swear to a black and white cop flag that signifies a blue line representing themselves. It’s a mockery and reeks of their true loyalties which fall upon each other rather than the American people. I understand that it’s “patriotic” to back the blue, but do you ever wonder if they have your liberties in the forefront of their minds? Or do they have a higher loyalty to their thin blue line?
That flag is a disrespect to the American flag. You cannot wear the flag nor can you alter it. Anyone that thinks the thin blue line attached on the American Flag is ok, clearly has not read the law.
It's all out disrespectful. If you want to make your own flag to support your own cause, go for it. But don't attach things to our flag. It Waters down our flag and the symbol it represents because of someone's person agenda. Think about it, there's a green thin line for AOCs green deal, people have added the Nazi symbol on top of the flag. At the end of the day it's an alternation and disrespect to not only the flag but the men and women who fought for that flag.
Constitutional rights violated by a government official.
Maybe Ruby Ridge Billy Barr will go out to SF and defend this POS police chief like he did the FBI sniper who murdered 3 innocent Americans . . . because Barr sure isn't doing anything that his job description requires.
Why is the salary of a mayor of a city nearly $300k? Are you saying she deserves to be compensated over $120k more than your state senator? Does she deserve 75% of the salary of the person who is running the most power and wealthiest nation in the world? How the fuck does a mayor get a $300k salary when the Vice President of the United States gets $235k.
The fuck? SF is expensive, but you don’t need $300k a year, she should barely be getting $3k a year for what’s going on in SF.
When will they start issuing drab, colorless uniforms for the citizens to wear? Will the elites wear a different color uniform? Will each echelon have a different color?
When supporting police is political... If people have a problem with the thin blue line I have some advise for you. If you cant get over it then at least simply just shut up about it. Soon it will be political to prefer vanilla ice cream over chocolate or vice versa.
If I had the means to make 'em, I'd send them masks with Gavin Newsom taking a dong in the mouth printed on the front. Chesa Boudin as well while I'm at it.
This would be like Kapernic getting told he can't wear a mask decorated with whatever the hell team hes on. It just comes across as stupid still imo
Had to look, fucking Christ
https://img.sfist.com/2019/06/sfpd-pride-patrol.jpg
Hah. Gay.
If you think any of the police are going to side with the set-us-free protesters, you're delusional. All of them are going to do what they're told.
These guys are in government jobs. They have families, mortgages and kids to raise. Long after the protests are over, they're going to still be employed, getting that paycheck.
Whether it's the coronavirus protest or a 2A protest, they're going to do what they're told, at the point of a gun.
They're basically no different than guys yelling, "Get in the boxcar, Jews!" of Nazi Germany. After the war, their excuse was, "I was only following the orders of my superiors."
BINGO. People need to wake up to this ironclad truth.
Relevant
Fits well. Police scum and degeneracy...
Is SEPD short for septic?
"I am not authorized to speak to the media"
"but I'm not with the media"
"I am not authorized to speak to the media"
...
Are police not American? They should use the red white and blue flag
It's dumb, but you are supposed to NOT do anything but your job whilst at your job. Police is a job. You can wear the thin blue mask on your private time.
Cops can't show support for other cops killed in the course of doing their job? You think that's wrong? It's not like they're showing support for some external cause, but support for one another.
Wrong is a big word. I'd say you'd best clear it with the department and make it a DEPARTMENT thing and not a YOU thing. Even police union thing would be fine.
I don’t think it’s wrong, but on the other hand I don’t think it’s wrong for the police department to have and enforce uniform standards.
If you can have a special mask, why not a little pin? If you can have a little pin, why not a badge? And if you can have a badge, why not a big t-shirt that says “PAY RISES FOR COPS NOW”? Uniform standards exist for a reason, and I don’t feel like it’s any of my damn business where exactly that line is drawn.
The article says the the American flag (with a thin blue line) is a divisive symbol and is disrespectful.”
You’re either an Amercian or a democrat I guess
Who gets to decide what's "divisive" and "disrespectful"?
Oh, I forgot, it's those blue-haired, limp-wristed, unemployed, brainwashed college kids who are afraid of everything. Millions of grandfather's rolling in their graves right about now.
Cops can't support....cops?
The Left.
Why are gay homeless kids getting their own special financial support instead of just homeless kids in general? And why am I an asshole for being vocally uncomfortable about it?
I thought the rainbow ones were basically socialist ones.
https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.298784031.2725/flat,1000x1000,075,f.jpg
You mean like the horses before they got sent into the glue factory?
-Charlotte's Web. Fight me on it
GIVE IT BACK!! THAT WAS MY POINT!!!
Good, let the aids parades infect each other
This is about police officers themselves no longer being allowed to wear them while on-duty because of the political activism aspect to the masks. Okay, fair enough.
Now let's apply that same standard to the policing decisions made by the SF police chief.
Yeah I’ve seen a couple cruisers with rainbow shit on them. If this isn’t okay then neither is that.
They pick and choose what policies to follow.
Yeah, this is what the issue is. Uniform standards are fine and I think the 'blue line' is masturbatory tough-guy self-righteous bullshit. Exude professionalism and apoliticism.
Freemasonry has been a big part of the corruption of police forces in many places:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/revealed-how-gangs-used-the-freemasons-to-corrupt-police-9054670.html
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/02/secret-handshake-police-freemasons
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201903211073422158-masonic-lodge-busted/
https://www.rt.com/uk/341012-freemasons-propaganda-police-corruption/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3070223/Masonic-Fraternal-Police-Department-officers-arrested-LA-fake-badges-uniforms-PATROL-CARS-seized.html
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Propaganda_Due
Why is this news here? Separating Law Enforcement Officers from personal political opinions is a good thing, even if we support the opinion that they are expressing. Their job, while they are wearing a badge and a gun, is to uphold the law, not make political statements.
Asking an honest question here. How is the thin blue line flag political? I see it as, I’m a cop. I support cops.
To me it's drawing a distinction of "us vs. them". Coupled with the bullshit about how cops see themselves as the 'line between order and chaos', or as 'shepherds watching over the sheep', yeah it's no fucking wonder cops let this shit get to their head.
What I think is especially retarded is people who wave Gadsden Flags alongside the Thin Blue Line flags or something like that. Politicians don't enforce laws, cops enforce laws. Every single infringement on our rights has a cop with a gun and a license to kill backing it up.
Cops are not your friends, and they never have been.
It was initially created (according to the article - and from personal recollection) in response to Obama's BLM push against cops. It's totally valid IMO, and certainly supported by this community, but it is a statement that is in response to a political movement. Any LEO wearing it while wearing the uniform is taking a political stance (a VALID and CORRECT stance IMO), but a stance nonetheless.
The Thin Blue Line nomenclature and flag (without the U.S. flag) has been around a lot longer than that.
Came here to say this but do you really expect liberals to get their facts straight?
No, but I do expect more out of people on this site, like u/RawJa777.
Lol. Ok Karen.
Bad try, that’s not a Karen response at all. Suck it up, learn some history before agreeing with morons like those at ABC News on what is at best a half-truth.
I guess I was unclear on the origin. Still seems pretty much like wearing your team colors, but if someone wants to be offended bad enough, they’ll find a reason.
The sad thing is that wearing it probably puts them in more danger because the left is unhinged. Not relevant to whether or not they SHOULD be wearing it, but a sad reality nonetheless.
Law enforcement officers, while they are in uniform, shouldn't be representing support for those either.
You and I agree, it should absolutely not be acceptable for a LEO, or a judge, or anyone else responsible for upholding the rule of law to openly represent a political opinion while they are performing the duties of their job.
This makes sense, thanks for the perspective
yeah the headline here is misleading at best.
You can even hijack a car! Three times in a single day!
Isn't it a misdemeanor under that amount?
I don't like the idea of the "thin blue line" flag, personally. This is really going to raise some hackles for me to say this, but to me, it's the same as the rainbow flag: it's superfluous, and divisive. It sets up the "us/them" mindset.
We are all united under one flag. The Flag of the United States of America.
I'm with you. I would find some other "police flag" less annoying, but because it's a corruption of the American flag I find it particularly distasteful.
Have you heard of the LEOBOR Or Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Officers%27_Bill_of_Rights
"The Law Enforcement Officers' Bill of Rights (LEOBR or LEOBoR) is intended to protect American law enforcement personnel from investigation and prosecution arising from conduct during official performance of their duties, and provides them with privileges based on due process additional to those normally provided to other citizens."
Basically, they're more American than you or me and entitled to more rights.
Think of it this way: they got their own flag, their own bill of rights.
Bring on the downvotes, IDGAF. Learn to accept the truth no matter how bad it looks.
Oh for fucks sake.... I really hate people in this country that would oppose police being able to wear something like this.
lol but pooping on the sidewalk is still legal
This is not controversial. I don't care if you want to support police and buy thin blue line apparel. But I don't think it's appropriate for on duty police to wear this kind of stuff that puts an emphasis on police being somehow separate from the rest of the population. Just because you have a badge and a gun doesn't mean you deserve more rights and everyone else is just a civilian.
The symbology of the thin blue line is that police are the force that maintains order in society against chaos. In reality- we the people, with our right to bear arms maintain order against tyranny.
Finally, I'd have way less of an issue with thin blue line imagery if they didn't sell shirts with the fucking punisher logo on them. You are a police officer, not my judge, jury, and executioner.
Can we stop sucking police dick now?
political correctness run amock.
Does anyone else here have a problem with the police and their use of the thin blue line flag?
Their only flag should be the American flag or the state flag. I hate the feeling that they see themselves as outside of Americans. Cops are civilians granted additional power by their community. They are to faithfully execute the duties of that privilege within the oath they took to this country. America. As in the American flag. They did not swear to a black and white cop flag that signifies a blue line representing themselves. It’s a mockery and reeks of their true loyalties which fall upon each other rather than the American people. I understand that it’s “patriotic” to back the blue, but do you ever wonder if they have your liberties in the forefront of their minds? Or do they have a higher loyalty to their thin blue line?
As someone who wore the flag on my shoulder, yes, very much.
That flag is a disrespect to the American flag. You cannot wear the flag nor can you alter it. Anyone that thinks the thin blue line attached on the American Flag is ok, clearly has not read the law.
What law? Or were you being sarcastic?
Direct violation of the United States Flag Code. https://www.legion.org/flag/code
It's all out disrespectful. If you want to make your own flag to support your own cause, go for it. But don't attach things to our flag. It Waters down our flag and the symbol it represents because of someone's person agenda. Think about it, there's a green thin line for AOCs green deal, people have added the Nazi symbol on top of the flag. At the end of the day it's an alternation and disrespect to not only the flag but the men and women who fought for that flag.
That's not a law
Y'know, Bizarro World used to exist only in DC Comics. Now it's real.
Omg fuck San Fran
Constitutional rights violated by a government official.
Maybe Ruby Ridge Billy Barr will go out to SF and defend this POS police chief like he did the FBI sniper who murdered 3 innocent Americans . . . because Barr sure isn't doing anything that his job description requires.
He'll just tweet another video of him saying "something something uphold the constitution something something"
Make a T H I C C Blue Line design.
I made the mistake of reading the comments. My head hurts now
Why is the salary of a mayor of a city nearly $300k? Are you saying she deserves to be compensated over $120k more than your state senator? Does she deserve 75% of the salary of the person who is running the most power and wealthiest nation in the world? How the fuck does a mayor get a $300k salary when the Vice President of the United States gets $235k.
The fuck? SF is expensive, but you don’t need $300k a year, she should barely be getting $3k a year for what’s going on in SF.
When will they start issuing drab, colorless uniforms for the citizens to wear? Will the elites wear a different color uniform? Will each echelon have a different color?
Why cant we speak our opinions at work? Why cant we say what we believe?
Control
Its all about control
Stop letting the “man” control you.
You are not helping if you keep your mouth shut
You are silently dying by staying quiet.
Grow a pare of balls
When supporting police is political... If people have a problem with the thin blue line I have some advise for you. If you cant get over it then at least simply just shut up about it. Soon it will be political to prefer vanilla ice cream over chocolate or vice versa.
Oh no. I prefer neopolitan ice cream!
Really? Shut up about it? How about you lick some more boot and fuck off.
If I had the means to make 'em, I'd send them masks with Gavin Newsom taking a dong in the mouth printed on the front. Chesa Boudin as well while I'm at it.
Are police officers not citizens of the US?
TIL.
Deleted my reply. It was just a quick comment, didn't really write it well. Please disregard.
California, ladies and gentlemen.
Shithole town, shithole police chief.
I can't load archive links. Never have been able to. No idea why
How would I make a Honkler mask?
SF is full of Pedophiles
Wrong, thin blue line flag is defacing our nations flag that people have died wearing. It's not political, it's a matter of respect.
Only in SanFran will the not allow officers to Thin Blue Line, but allow Kaepernick to take a knee.
This is just for police. Read the damn article before commenting.
Have all the cops wear them. Fuck that police chief and his woke bullshit. Who are they going to call to arrest them?
only cucked bitches on the left freak out when they see police, or people supporting them
Commie Pinko Faggots!