Tell them it gives them a big dick because they will do anything to get their hands on stuff that claims that. Any weird shit they eat, they claim it's good for the dick. Never seen a society so obsessed with getting a bigger dick.
Actually you have it backward! In the cities they don't need strong bodies to work the farms, so they choose girls over boys. In the countryside there are tons of boys and fewer girls. So you end up with a large, hardy peasant population made up largely of young men who can't win the city girls who can choose whomever they please and often look for money.
Still, it was preferable to have a boy. City or country. The driving force behind this was carrying on the family name. Baby girls were killed in cities and in the boonies because fucking chicoms are Godless communists.
Jimmy: Samir is not Indian. He is from Pakistan.
Eddie: Well, he can pack an' stand all he want, but if Geronimo keep up, somebody liable to bust a cap in his ass.
Why do they kill a bunch of animals saying the food chain is breaking, then go on to limit sales? Seems completely backwards, and they're the ones creating the issue.
All the people telling us for years we have to drastically reduce our meat consumption to save the planet, telling us veganism is better for us, meat cuases cancer, etc. This would include the UN, WHO, and scores of globalist propaganda rags.
The most powerful and influencial families that run the world, do you really think the most powerful and influencial people really just disapear after their election ends?
The problem lies with the meet processing plants being closed and meat inspectors not being able to come out and check the animals before slaughter. They have completely backed up the system and now farmers are having to euthanize their animals that were ready to slaughter because there is no one there to process them.
Because the processing plants were/are shut down because of massive COVID-19 outbreaks among employees. Cows and pigs don't butcher and package themselves.
The problem is, a lot of the workers (both legal and illegal) share living space with people who work in other settings, children who play with other children (and in normal times, go to school with other children), etc. The man who's working in a meat processing plant may go home to one or more people who change diapers in nursing homes.
While that may be true, that doesn't explain why farmers are supposedly being forced to euthanize them. This implies the farmers in question are willing to keep the existing livestock, well, alive. Shouldn't it be their business call?
Either way, this "just in time" supply chain crap really needs to end.
I wonder though, there must be "organic" or hormone-free farms where the animals are more. These were probably more expensive to begin with, but they will probably get more expensive now.
Call a nearby family farm with grass fed animals and order a quarter or half a cow now and then. (Of course they all sold out as people filled their freezers during COVID).
I am not entirely sure but I think their meat becomes unpalatable and ranchers do not have the resources to keep extra livestock around that will be worthless. They are better off letting new animals come in with the hopes that once they reach the right age, things will be back up and running again.
There is also a process that animals go through in the weeks leading up to slaughter that I am pretty sure they can only go through once. They significantly change their diet and I am sure taking them off of that diet is not an easy process. There is only a small window during that process where you can slaughter them for their meat. Plus, I am sure the risk of disease increases as the animals age.
Does POTUS know this and why is he not stopping it. This is to create a shortage, the farmers, ranchers TOLD US, and need to sell meat and there is a market, we are not eating less, and we will be starving for this foolishness shortly. Has POTUS even said a word or is he still concentrating on China & Tarriffs, etc. and missed all of this???.
Does he know some of us BELIEVE this was all a scam to wreck the economy and his Presidency and this country and us and force us into no alternative but Socialism when the Left steals the next election when no one is trying to stop the voter fraud, just wishful thinking - hoping the governors do not MAKE us vote by mail, WHICH THEY WILL DEMAND in November, when they are still telling us we must continue to social distance due to all the new cases of CV (created by either lies or contamination)??????
Why doesnt he think that???? After all the other attacks on him??? It is obvious.
No one thinks it is a coincidence the day some states open partially, the biggest number EVER OF CV CASES SUDDENLY SPIKED in that state, or deaths, or some extraordinarily large number related to CV? Contaminated, or fake numbers by Left organizations who run the counting sites is more like it, or MSM LIES. Which is it??? Sometimes I really wonder why isn't White House or citizens seeing this and demanding answers?????.
The left would love to collapse the meat industry so we're all on a cheap kibble diet that their globalist big aggro overlords can produce for nothing. I will never, as long as I live, eat this fucking swill. Human beings evolved on meat. Our primitive ancestors were not monocropping corn 50,000 years ago during the Ice Age. They were taking down megafauna and eating almost nothing else. That's how we thrived and spread all over the planet. I eat shit tons of meat and almost nothing else and I feel great. The whole anti-meat tack is a crock of brainwashing bullshit designed to foist cheap, unpalatable, unhealthy processed sludge down the gullets of weak, stupid beta humans to make them weaker, stupider, and more pliable to the coming globalist order. Be human, eat meat.
Argument’s against meat are hilarious. Every diet that lacks meat requires supplementation in direct proportion to how much meat it lacks. If your diet requires scientific supplementation to be remotely viable, it’s not by definition a healthy diet. Even with just vegetarian and not vegan diets, it requires a level of planning and nutrient combining of divergent species on a level no one ever would have done in a million years before now. And they didn’t have to, they just ate some meat. Most people don’t notice deficiencies for years in some cases because with some vitamins that’s how long it takes for your body to run out of its built up stores, which came from meat.
All hyper palatable and over processed foods are plant based. If someone were to go carnivore, they mostly just lose weight. The best is still a mix of both, just like people have being doing for fucking forever.
There was a famous former vegan (Tynan Daniels maybe?) who had been vegan for decades until her body began to fail in multiple ways. Her doctor told her to eat meat and it turned her life around. It saved her life. She wrote a book about it and made her views public and ended up needing to buy a gun, get an alarm system, and a pitbull to deal with the death threats. These people are simply unhinged and an example of how our society has become soft and lost.
There’s also a famous case of newborns being fed vegan and dying. You have to admit it’s hilarious that vegans are out there making death threats and killing their own in an effort to morally support animals that at this point can’t live on their own without us. And they do it by eating exclusively plants grown in areas where countless animals die but aren’t considered.
Nobody ever thinks that shit through. There’s no setting cows ‘free’. A good portion of animals also eat each other for fun and nutrients. Plants are also living things.
It’s cool if someone wants to be a vegan for more reasons. The issues arise when they try to justify it in ways that extend beyond their feelings, which is when it all hits the fan. “COWS ARE CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING!!!!” Yeah okay. Because giant industrial farms for plants are making it better. Plenty of cow pastures are net neutral or negative on that.
I remember one time in college, PETA members had a stand set up outside of a dorm and they were handing out fliers that advocated for the mass culling and euthanasia as pets to "liberate them from human overlords". No joke. They want you to kill your pets. They were shut down in about an hour after people started fights with them and girls were crying due to the imagery.
We have things like that in the Bay too. People locking themselves in cages and covered in blood, paying people $1 to watch videos of animals being slaughtered, etc. Spray painting campaigns saying meat is murder.
If you’re going to be belligerent vandals, I don’t like your cause, sorry.
No carnivore is vegan. Things eat other things. There are probably more animals out there that would eat a Vegan than there are animals to save by not eating them.
That documentary was such well made propaganda. Did you see the guy defend it on Rogan? Hours and hours of him just attacking the other guy while leaving the entire core issue unaddressed of whether a diet free of animal products is healthy that a diet including them.
It was just the whole episode. And Rogan unfortunately didn’t destroy him, which is why people were mad. Rogan just let the Game Changers guy pick at the other guy the entire time and be angry. He didn’t spend 1 second of the whole interview / debate justifying veganism, just not picked at minor criticisms of him. It was a massive moderation failure on Joe’s part. Just imagine if during a presidential debate the entire thing was just Trump picking at Biden. Fun as that is, it wouldn’t be fair if both sides didn’t have questions and things to defend.
Who guys? I didn't. You are absolutely correct and were then. Meat is HIGHLY political these days. The globohomo agenda is all wrapped up in it. They want us weak, unable to think, sick, and then dead.
Is POTUS aware or oblivious or what? I am getting a little ... curious. Maybe that isnt the right word. We need to talk about this and POST IT EVERYWHERE, before they cull the entire country of meat for no reason. And they hae been plowing under our crops, saying schools and restaurants are closed, but people still eat at home! We still need it. and dumping milk, and killingmillions of chickens? No eggs, vegs, meat.milk, what else is there????? WTF is going on? And the sale of all the soy etc. to China for the first time . . it must be part of it ... that China bought it this one time.... to further shorten our food supply. POTUS just said last night he thought it was such a great idea to sell them all of that food. Cant POTUS see this is a trap to starve us to death???
Well I believe you. It all adds up to me. The workers get sick in two locations to a huge degree: meat packing plants and and nursing homes??? Coincidence? No way. I think both were targeted. Then this year we sold all the soy beans which are not a substitute for meat, but a protein, to China of all places. For the first time ever. Is that why China bought it, to further cut our food supply????. Sounds likely. Yet Potus still thinks it is a good deal to sell the soy beans to China, to make money... but we can't eat money! It takes animals a year to reproduce. We can't just manufacture meat for the population overnight!!!! Does he see these things and know he must stop culling the animals, or is he oblivious to what is going on, concentrating on investigating China, still thinking it was an accident and getting back to work which the left is hindering at every single opportunity, is the only way and he doesn't even see what else is going on???? I think China and the Left, NWO, had this all planned out and are executing a nightmare on America. We need to get POTUS to see what is going on, or tell us he is aware, because sitting here waiting for the shit to hit the fan is going to kill people if he is unawae, & giving China and the Left the benefit of the doubt or does not see this at all. We will start starving to death a few months down the road. No way to fix that. And at this rate, it is entirely possible and the Left will do all they can to make it happen, to force communism or socialism as the only choice. How do we make sure POTUS sees this is a trap?? That it was all a trap??
Cop worship is ridiculous. They are human, and humans are flawed. There are good cops, great cops, ok cops, and shit cops. There are enough shit cops to ruin the profession for the good and great ones. Worshipping Cops is cucking to the fucking government. I will have respect for those who stand with the Constitution above their department, the rest can fuck off to hell. I am also of mind that those who purposely go against their oath should be publicly executed. That shit would keep the mother fuckers honest.
I feel your pain, there was also a lot of Cop worship on T_D. I am so glad people here are waking up. I mean it was easy to see who's side they were really on. For the past few years independent reporters like Millie Weaver, Kaitlin Bennett, Owen Shrower, were constantly harassed by cops at protests.
There are some vegan pedes on here who think that their vegan diets makes them better lovers, I recall seeing that foolishness last week. Maybe they'll eventually smarten up.
THere is actually evidence that we ate a ton of vegetables too, just not things that we cultivated because we did't know how yet. Veganism would have killed us. The people who claim otherwise love say they believe in science but this a baseless claim. For one thing, do they really think we killed a mastodon and made coats and gloves for the whole tribe and just let that giant carcass rot? Those goes against their Native American worship lol. No, someone would have tried it out and gone, 'hey guys, this is the shit." Today we know how much nutrition there is in fat, hearts, kidneys, liver, etc. The kind of science a vegan does is 100x more stupid than the kind a climate scientist does.
This simply isn’t true. At what point, and where, would there have been enough vegetation to feed people? And the civilization that would be able to continue running that without being taken over. I’ll wait.
You try to call people out but then don’t put any sources yourself. Use your critical thinking. Do you think, at any point in primitive human history, we had crops like we do not to feed people? All fruits and vegetables are seasonal. Animals are not. I’m not saying we are no fruits or vegetables, but to claim “a lot” is pure horse shit.
Nobody is saying they had crops. It's pretty interesting to me that you would call this pure horseshit because clearly you haven't even looked into it and are being defensive for some reason. Your "critical thinking" doesn't replace fact. Look into it and you will find evidence that plants played into the ancient diet. Hell, I live in the city and I can take a walk for an hour and find enough plants to eat for the day. As far as critical thinking goes, ask yourself why we would have ever decided to invent crops if vegetables weren't so important to us. Also ask yourself why our teeth aren't all sharp like other carnivores. We are omnivores quite clearly which means we evolved to eat more than meat which leaves us with vegetables as well.
I don't have time to educate you against your preconceived notions but here are some links to get you started. Mincing over words like " a lot" is fairly pointless.
I said they played a part, it was just small. Calorie density is not high in plants. They are deficient in necessary nutrients. The effort it would take to gather enough plant material, especially a wide variety of different plants, to feed an entire family, or small village would be impossible on a regular basis. They are seasonal. You’re just being a sheep.
How am I being a sheep for stating facts with sources that plants have always been part of our diet. What do you think people were getting scurvy from on ships long ago? Lack of meat?
Here is another source that shows that without pants you will be deficient in certain things. You see I've studied the topic and you have clearly not which is why you've resorted to name calling. Classic.
" The effort it would take to gather enough plant material, especially a wide variety of different plants, to feed an entire family, or small village would be impossible on a regular basis."
Really? So where is your source? Where is proof of that. Are roots seasonal? Nuts? Calling me a sheep sounds a lot like projection. You are being willfully ignorant in addition to misinterpreting what I've said, seemingly on purpose.
Lol I just read all 3 of your sources. One of them found the first site with evidence...the second found two samples from a Neanderthal, but the article admits it could have been the plant matter in the belly of the animal. Then it says that they were mostly meat. Haha. You killed your own argument. Vitamin C is in meat, especially in organ meat like liver.
There are only two essential needs for humans, amino acids and fatty acids. Guess what has those in abundance? Meat.
Again, I said they were part of diets, just small parts. My source is human history. Go to any wild place right now and find enough food to feed a family for weeks.
Scurvy was caused by multiple things, lack of meat being one of them. Did you know humans who eat only meat don't get scurvy? Of course you didn’t.
Arguing with people like you is a waste of time. You know you’re wrong, but you’ll keep holding on to your strawman argument.
None of that is true. There are plenty of wild plants that you can eat today that are not going to kill you. What they will do is give you fiber along with vitamins and minerals. You may think all you need is meat and fat but the fossil record shows that our ancestors ate a lot of plants. I'm not sure why you think we are similar enough to insects that a plant's natural defeses will kill us. Plants and fungus (many of them) are very good for us. Vitamin C comes to mind for one thing.
At the end of the day you don't have unlimited access to meat. You only do today because somebody farms it. If we were all to hunt the meat would be gone very quickly.
There is zero chance that this is a coincidence. The Democrats' only goal is to get rid of Trump and get their power back. They will stop at nothing to do that.
Russia Collusion didn't work.
Impeachment didn't work.
Even their filthy man-made virus didn't work.
So they will keep pulling apart the fabric of society in hopes that it collapses so badly we'll be begging the (Dem) government to impose socialism just so we can survive.
Do not fall for any of this, guys. Please. It is all by design, it is all deliberate, and it is all engineered by the Democrats.
We are in a war for our country. The Democrats have just chosen to infiltrate and rot everything out from the inside, instead of attacking with weapons from the outside. But it is just as deadly an attack and maybe more so because so many simply don't realize what's happening and still think the Dems are their friends.
THIS and the ONE thing we can do as Americans is VOTE LIKE YOUR FUCKING LIFE DEPENDS ON IT IN NOVEMBER (because it does), and bring your friends and family.
VOTE OUT ALL DEMS AND RINOs. GOP only, preferably endorsed by Trump himself.
We have a very small but ferocious group of fighters in Congress (Freedom Caucus) but we need OVERWHELMING wins in the congressional races (plus of course the Prez/VP) in order to not only advance the MAGA agenda, but to merely survive as a Constitutional republic.
I think the globalist left really did finally realize that if Trump wins another term ,they are fucked, and their takeover of society of the last 60 years will have been all wasted effort. So they are willing to go scorched earth and destroy EVERY element of our society if need be to get citizens so morose they beg for socialism.
VOTE LIKE YOUR FUCKING LIFE DEPENDS ON IT IN NOVEMBER (because it does)
just please for God's sake do NOT NOT NOT think of using vote-by-mail. If someone has to carry you, get yourself to your polling place in person.
The only purpose of Vote By Mail is so the Democrats will have an easier time of cheating their asses off and stealing the election. NO to Vote By Mail!
I mean China is considering worst case violent scenario conflicts with America. The globalists which is probably a lot of China are trying to weaken our country before the war.
We are more divided than ever (right out of using cultural Marxism as a weapon against enemy countries) we have financially devestated our economy after 4 years of building it up, a police state has been implemented in some places. Misinformation was given ALOT
Then you have bill gates everywhere you look and he’s cozy with the Chinese along with all of our media and apparently democratic politicians like Pelosi who said she doesn’t want to investigate China she wants to investigate trump, AGAIN!
I cannot wait to beat them in November. Don’t like to get my hopes up, but it will be a great day when they see the inside of a courtroom AND are actually CONVICTED and SENTENCED for everything they’ve done to this country.
Communists used famine as a weapon in the past too. Look at the history of Ukraine:
"The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомо́р; Голодомо́р в Украї́ні; derived from морити голодом, "to kill by starvation") was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine in 1932 and 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians. It is also known as the Terror-Famine and Famine-Genocide in Ukraine, and sometimes referred to as the Great Famine or the Ukrainian Genocide of 1932–33. It was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–33, which affected the major grain-producing areas of the country. During the Holodomor, millions of inhabitants of Ukraine, the majority of whom were ethnic Ukrainians, died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe unprecedented in the history of Ukraine. Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
Or a place like sams club where you can buy the super mega sized packs of everything. I'm from the cold war era so I have always kept the pantry and freezer full of goodies for when something bad happens. Has allowed me to grill steaks and eat fat during hurricanes when everything is closed for weeks.
This is their last ditch effort to scare monger off the virus now the momentum is leaning towards reopening. Same reason you are getting a lot of reports of covid spikes from the media trying to scare people into staying home.
East central US for me and other than some token social distancing signs and sneeze guards at the registers you can buy whatever you want as much as you want. They did limit toilet paper at the start with all the idiots coming in a buying up cartloads of it but otherwise no rationing. Entire state is more or less open past the restaurants and gyms.
shrugs Gotta buy my stuff somewhere and sams is like walmart just with bigger boxes of stuff. I'd love to shop a fully patriotic store but those don't seem to exist in our current corporate environment.
As to BJ's its another lib owned company with donations to all the normal D candidates.
FIL used to always have the big chest freezer in the basement full of beef in butcher paper when my wife was growing up. When she went away to college, she honestly had no idea how to buy beef in the grocery store. For her, "buying beef" was going to the basement and digging around in the freezer.
I'm a carnivore and I buy meat in bulk. I go through 15+ lbs of red meat a week. Any tips on how to buy meat in bulk through a supplier? Needless to say I'm worried about this meat shortage. I'll start hunting wild game before I go back to eating processed carb poison.
I've started becoming more of a carnivore, and am looking to get into hunting so that I can provide meat for my family that way rather than just grab something at Costco
Yep, they created an artificial toilet paper shortage and now they're creating an artificial meat shortage, I wonder how long until (if it hasn't happened already) the fake news media starts pushing the "muh food shortage" narrative?
And we thought people fighting over TP was bad, better stock up people, shit is about to get real.
Great way to preserve meat especially if you anticipate power shortages. Hurricane season in the south is a constant reminder of that.
I won't knock the commercial survival kits but there's something empowering about knowing how to can, pickle, and make your own jerky, pemmican, and hardtack. Shelf stable and lasts for years.
Well, doesn't the MSM just sabotage their own pro-lockdown propaganda if they'd report on shortages? Or will they insist on lockdowns while blaming Trump anyway (for whatever reason)?
Regardless, let the Democrat controlled areas collapse and suffer. They need that harsh lesson. Bad for the conservatives and Libertarians there, but otherwise nothing will ever improve. These places that self-sabotage must suffer the consequences of their actions, so that they realize the insanity of Democrats and MAYBE consider not to vote them into office that much.
In Los Angeles, I went to the store yesterday and found a whole bunch ofmeat. They were limiting it to two products per customer, but the shelves were filled, and I bought 3 pounds of ground beef for various meals for this week and next. My dad did say there might be a pork shortage coming, but I'm honestly not worried for the long run.
Some major processors have been shut down due to the hysteria of Covid. If no one is there to butcher, the cows stay outside and the whole system backs up. Dems have made a mess of things as a last ditch effort to ruin Trump and us.
For instance, the chinese company WH Group recently bought Smithfield's, which is the largest pork producer on the planet. And this US company is the one their chinese owners ordered them to shut down. And that is why Trump activated his war powers and reopened the processing plants against the orders of their Chinese owners.
How in the fuck are government controlled businesses allowed in the US? China would never allow a company controlled by the US government to operate there, especially not for food. They aren’t that stupid. I fucking hate our politicians.
Yea they just closed a "Business" Costco that was always empty, compared to the apocalyptic mad house regular one about 20 minutes away, as an online order storage location.
What they've done is cram even more people into a tiny space in an effort to oppress everyone and enforce the new normal™, you know, for science.
No longer going to that Washington(Microsoft) birthed cuckshed.
Costco is a terrible place to support. They are starting to put family farmers out of business by building mega animal farms to sell to people for cheaper than normal farmers can afford.
Not trying to be combative, but costco was already sourcing their chicken supply from mega farming corps
If you can find a source showing costco getting their 70M+ chickens a year from local farmers and switching to their own mega farms, then your point of "putting family farmers out of business " becomes a bit more valid
For the record I buy as much food as I can locally from farmer's markets...
We’ve done vegan before and everyone in my family felt great. It’s just boring and meat tastes so delicious. But learn to cook beans, they’re hearty and healthy and if you use a little bacon or pork bones or chicken broth, you can get that meat flavor and make it go a long way. Ask your grandmother for tips.
We can get through this time without panicking, Americans can support each other.
I think there is a difference between what most people think of as a "vegan" (OMG HOW DARE YOU EAT THOSE UNFERTILIZED EGGS THAT WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TRASH IF NOT EATEN?) and a "vegetarian" who simply doesn't eat meat. "Vegan" carries a certain "Karen" persona with it that nobody likes.
It's the same reason I never buy products with a Vegan label on them. It's not that I hate animals. I just don't like rewarding a business for catering to that particular entitled crowd. I can buy noodles or vegetables and read the ingredients like normal people.
Because it's a laughable conceite of a first world industrialized farming society. Imagine every grocery store is closed, and look out your window. What's your next meal going to consist of?
If everyone starts eating beans, what do you think will have to that part of the supply chain? You can't just have people make massive shifts in consumption in a short time frame without serious issues.
Do you have any idea what would happen if people start trying to replace all the meat they eat with beans? It doesn't matter how much is produced already, what matters is how much more would be demanded and what that would do to the supply chain.
I have enough beans to make it my daily grain for a year. So I could start eating it every day and no one would notice for several more harvests.
I also horde quinoa and lentils. Probably have more than 100 lbs of dry grains not including rice. I'll get around to buying another bag of rice. The last one lasted me 2 years.
I do it accidentally. I bulk shop at Costco, and my friends ran a temporary food bank a few months ago so they had to get rid of whatever they couldn't give away.
Also, you should never worry about America's food supply in basics like grains or beans. Who do you think has been feeding the entire world all this time? Ingenious Zimbabwean farmers? Polluted industrial China? Lazy anti-capitalist Europeans?
It's America. If trade ever stops and we can't export food, we'll be stuck with another food to feed 3 billion people every year. It's why we're already destroying herds of animals and dumping tanker trucks of milk right now. Pretty soon we'll be plowing over crops instead of harvesting them.
The biggest problem in America is how to destroy enough food to feed entire continents without creating toxic fields of rotten food and meat with accompanying rodent and scavenger hordes.
And honestly we'll probably fail, there is just too food we need to destroy. Oh and our close ally Brazil has the same issues. Together we feed the world.
There is also a certain amount of acreage planted in beans to meet a certain demand. If demand shifts drastically, you can't just produce more beans on the fly.
I have literally fixed my health issues and weight with a carnivore diet - this is not an option for me as my anxiety and other things will come back full force.
SAME. If I can't eat keto, I start going downhill fast... I was unable to keto for about a month there, and everything I had keto'd for started to come back. I've already taken a doctors trip for complications due to it.
keto cuts out all starches and almost all fruit. It doesnt cut out a lot of grains it cuts out ALL grains, ALL starchy veg, and almost all fruit. What are you left with? Dairy, eggs, meat, watery vegetables, and a limited amount of berries/lemons.
Liver is the most nutritious and nutrient dense food on the planet. Beef is one of the only known hypo-allergenic foods. Nothing that is NOT animal-derived has the correct form of D, A, & K (unless you count Natto on the K), a complete amino acid profile, B12, or heme iron. There are also vital omega-3's in meat. People who hate meat like to say you can get omega-3 from flax. That flax omega-3 has the completely wrong balance of EPA/DHA, way way too much ALA and omega-6, and because it's a seed, it also has anti-nutrients in it that prevent absorption of vitamins and minerals.
EPA and DHA regulate the blood and your body knows exactly what levels those horomones should be at.
Flax is a great source of omega 3 and toasting the seeds before sprinkling on yogurt, cereal, or cottage cheese allows for maximum absorption.
I went vegan for 6 months as preventative maintenance and it worked quite well.
I was never a "real" vegan because I wouldn't dump my leather belts and shoes into landfills and admitted steak tastes great and I don't care about the feelings of animals being harvested for food even when I chose not to eat any myself.
Everybody's different and has certain foods that agree with their intestinal flora.
I hope you are not assuming that I don't know that "ala can be converted to epa/dha". That is not an easy conversion for the body to make, and the sheer amount of ala required to produce adequate levels of epa/dha is obscenely high, and leaves you ingesting far too many omega 6's and ala to GET that epa/dha.
However, even though i disagree with you about veganism, I do agree with you about gut flora. It's cool to talk with someone else who 'gets it' on the gut flora.
For instance, keto is fixing what was wrong with me from going vegan. But I don't think that everybody needs to keto for optimal health necessarily, because peoples bodies and gut flora are different. I think people must eat animal products to some degree for good health, but going keto is only really necessary for people who have issues that keto can fix like polycystic ovarian syndrome, metabolic disorder, epilepsy, etc.
WA, I think we opened fishing but the only other two things I'm aware of are golfing and housecleaning. Now let's see which income level really needs the golfing and housecleaning? Our politicans are tired of the "new normal" for them, not us.
The silver lining is the 3lbs bags of chicken breast I usually buy like a chump were sold out, so I ended up finding 6lbs bags for even less money. Covid panic FTW!
There is a surplus. The problem is capacity crunch in meat processing. Those restaurants don't require any processing hardly. Cut a cow in quarters, bag the organs, done. So let's say 5 cuts with no plastic or paper to wrap the parts.
But to process it for home consumers, they have to cut the cow into hundreds of different parts and each one needs to be vacuum sealed or ground up then bagged. So 800 cuts, grinding, and yards of plastic to wrap up that cow.
This times a million is the problem. And here's the kicker, those meat processing plants under huge demand, have been shutting down cause of worker anxiety. Our meat supply is being forced through an eye of a needle to get to us.
So all that food we used to eat at restaurants now cannot be processed and is being destroyed as their exists no capacity to process it, and the existing capacity is being shut down.
Looks like it pays off to be a hunter and fisher! I still have a chest freezer full of meat. I strongly suggest my fellow pedes to start working on it too.
Today was my shopping day... I was already saying no to Costco because of the line outside, but now i won't go until they remove the Mac mask requirement.
Was in and out it Kroger quickly, got everything on my list at a decent price. Happy workers ....... Once lived Costco, but always felt that Costco was a big government / Dem aligned corporation on the front edge of big brother
I put limit two red meat items signage in my department last week. Idk why Costco is being used as barometer. Costco is always weeks behind in implementing policies that I have been working under for weeks one of the biggest grocers in the country
Also the issue isn't that there isn't product, we all know animals are being euthanized, it's a matter of plants having production capacity reduced in some cases less than 50%. Vendors have also told me that now the real problem for them is that since oil production has dropped, packers are running out of CO2 for gas packs and packaging for the product. Another issue is that vendors that mostly supply food service are having trouble trying to switch to retail for our stores, which results in either buyers not buying from them or I receive product that gives me little time to process before spoilage.
I get small royalties on gas wells dug on our property about 10 years ago when fracking started up in our area. The company pays on the natural gas, but also by-products from the well. They process everything possible for max profit.
We buy whole chickens for $0.92/pound at Wal-Mart. We part, bag, seal, and freeze most of them. Others I spatchcock and smoke. We use all the backbones for stock and freeze it too.
If it looks like there's gonna be a meat shortage, I'll buy a side of locker beef and have it processed. I have room for another deep freezer.
Think of the place you work in and one person gets the flu.
The whole place has to close down for two weeks.
The perfect bioweapon. The perfect BW is not designed to kill. It's designed to cause chaos and the population will do the work for you. You never need to waste resources trying to take the target country over.
Wait till next year as this year's crops die in the fields. Because one person on the farm got the flu.
If nothing else happens prices will go up.... and up.....and up.
Not all places thankfully. An employee at the grocery store I work at was tested positive two weeks ago. The store was closed down the day they found out for a deep clean. Next morning, the store was open for business at normal time. The worker is doing fine, and as far as I know, no one else at my store has the Wu Flu.
No kidding my friend. Not to mention as soon as everyone starts hunting at once, someone's favorite hunting spot will be wiped clean from hunting and any animals left mass-migrating.
On an emergency supply website I was looking at, their hunting and fishing starter packs were sold out. You know what that means? People who don't normally hunt will be at it too.
I pray to God Trump sees a way out of this. He is literally our only hope. Even after COVID-19 we still have China to deal with. Trump and his Admin wants to kick China out of the US bargaining table completely, aggressively, and we all KNOW they won't take that sitting down.
We almost did a couple months ago in peacetime, and look what they've done to retaliate.
Are there really supply shortages looming, to a sufficient degree that Costco needs to impose these limts? Or are the skittish masses just afraid of serious supply shortages, and trying to do with meat what they did with toilet paper a few weeks ago?
It's not that "farmers are being ordered to kill" their animals, it's that no processing facilities are willing to take the animals, so the farmers have no choice but to kill them. Farmers who produce animals under contract for large companies, which actually own the animals, are being "ordered" by the companies that own the animals to kill them. Farmers who own their own livestock and produce for sale on their own behalf, are making the decision to kill their animals for the same reasons corporate owners are making that decision.
Nobody is being threatened with having licenses suspended unless they fail to maintain the required standards for animal care and animal waste management. But as animals keep giving birth and growing, with no processing facilities able to accept more animals, crowding quickly makes it impossible to maintain legally required standards without killing and disposing of a large number of animals.
Panic is panic, but with meat there's a limit to what people will buy. The goal is to increase buying demand to cover the lost restaurant deliveries, so that when the panic subsides the restaurant orders will be back online.
Meat hoarding wouldn't get as crazy as the toilet paper hoarding got, due to both price and limited freezer space. But it could go far enough to cause problems.
Finding the answer to that would be more important than the roll call of people who have stocked freezers. Not sure if those folks realize that this is an issue for everyone and it will make every other type of food stuff scarce. Great, you’re good for a month, what will you buy then? This problem is also far more complicated for for those with families. I’m sure the prepper who is only supporting himself can be pretty smug now, but to invest in food for the next six months for a large family is cost prohibitive when you are getting hit with every other day-to-day expense. In all honesty, this is why things need to be opened back up ASAP. And if meat processors are playing games Trump needs to kick their shit in.
fuckin hunts point, dude. Did you know theres a little spot near there on the edge of s bellevue/north renton where theres a tunnel? Its like an old railroad tunnel, long out of use. Its hidden in an area with no development that is very lush with ground-plants, shrubs and vines, but few trees.
It's like I wanna say maybe 3-5 miles southeast of hunts point?
EDIT now that I really think on it, it may have been a mining tunnel. Coal? I can't remember...
Not on this map. It looks like the logical terminus of what that map shows to end at Hobart. I read about it in Sons of the Profits, and thought it was interesting because I'd driven that section of 405 about a thousand times, and never noticed it, so I started noticing when id pass that area on the freeway. Then I started asking around and other people sometimes knew of it.
It was to do with the old boom from like 100 yrs ago. I swear it was a coal mine shaft. So it would make sense that its not on this map. But my memory can't be trusted on that point. I just remember that the area where it was at is so covered up, no wonder no one notices it. And I'm sure the exact spot, which I never bothered to try to locate, is fenced off private property-like or something.
Local it is then. Atleast here when Sams club closed costco went from pretty laid back to if you dont have our membership card you cant go to our food cart pretty fast.
We stocked up last Monday. HIt Costco (which was already pretty much wiped out) and then the grocery store. I don't think you could fit an ice cube in our freezers.
Seriously, how the fuck can there be meat shortages? Hardly any states were hit very hard by the Chinese virus except NY and a few others. All the other damage is self-inflicted by the stupid governors who decided to ignore science and data and turn into Kim Jong overnight.
This is slightly funny because a few weeks ago Butcher Box sent me another giant box of meat which I didn't even want. So my freezer is completely at capacity with various meats. Accidental prepper.
Eat the Bugs!
People thought I was kidding when i said make a recipe for the Murder Hornets and sell it back to the Chinese.
Just call it ancient Chinese medicine.
It's a natural "Aphrodisiac"
Confuscius say "Hornet give man strong stinger."
"Me so hornet"
You so funny! Me laughing long time
Makes you harder than three penis wine!
Tell them it gives them a big dick because they will do anything to get their hands on stuff that claims that. Any weird shit they eat, they claim it's good for the dick. Never seen a society so obsessed with getting a bigger dick.
Actually you have it backward! In the cities they don't need strong bodies to work the farms, so they choose girls over boys. In the countryside there are tons of boys and fewer girls. So you end up with a large, hardy peasant population made up largely of young men who can't win the city girls who can choose whomever they please and often look for money.
Still, it was preferable to have a boy. City or country. The driving force behind this was carrying on the family name. Baby girls were killed in cities and in the boonies because fucking chicoms are Godless communists.
Maybe they should just eat a dick.
They do. In a bowl sometimes raw.
Not just a dick, but a bag of dicks!
I know it is Japan, but this South Park episode has the answers: https://youtu.be/TuEKb9Ktqhc?t=30
Yet they've cucked the shit out of us.
It'll make your dick hard rong time
TFW I realize that is prob a scam too.
A run for the meat. Just like the toilet paper. Enough of this bs!
Ancient Chicom Seecawet
The deep state would benefit. The US government needs war to distract from its swampy doings to the US population.
Jimmy: Samir is not Indian. He is from Pakistan. Eddie: Well, he can pack an' stand all he want, but if Geronimo keep up, somebody liable to bust a cap in his ass.
It called A STING OPERATION.
You cheeky Cheeky 'Pede you!
hehe..:)
I’m not eating bugs.pjw
NO
I like bugs! Bugs bugs bugs!
Why do they kill a bunch of animals saying the food chain is breaking, then go on to limit sales? Seems completely backwards, and they're the ones creating the issue.
Because they want to destroy our food supply chain. We're at war.
^^^THIS^^^
Absolutely.
We are at war, but no one is ready to accept it yet.
All the people telling us for years we have to drastically reduce our meat consumption to save the planet, telling us veganism is better for us, meat cuases cancer, etc. This would include the UN, WHO, and scores of globalist propaganda rags.
The globalists, run by CCP
Im not sure its 100% CCP but they are definitely a huge player.
The most powerful and influencial families that run the world, do you really think the most powerful and influencial people really just disapear after their election ends?
The most powerful and influential people aren't elected
BINGO!!!
Bloomberg peeks over his podium...
The globalists.
He is the next Soros. As I keep telling people..the globalists are a hydra, cut of one head and 2 more take its place.
Nice try, troll.
To keep prices artificially high, of course.
Speaking of that, here in eastern Washington (state) our gas prices are still around $2.25/gal. Have been for at least the last 3 weeks.
Down to 1.33 in some parts of SC, brah.
It would be interesting to see how GEOTUS 's support correlates to regional gas prices since that is always a hot topic.
The problem lies with the meet processing plants being closed and meat inspectors not being able to come out and check the animals before slaughter. They have completely backed up the system and now farmers are having to euthanize their animals that were ready to slaughter because there is no one there to process them.
Because the processing plants were/are shut down because of massive COVID-19 outbreaks among employees. Cows and pigs don't butcher and package themselves.
The problem is, a lot of the workers (both legal and illegal) share living space with people who work in other settings, children who play with other children (and in normal times, go to school with other children), etc. The man who's working in a meat processing plant may go home to one or more people who change diapers in nursing homes.
Just curious...does anyone know why the have to kill the animals now? Why can’t the pigs and cows stay alive until the plants are running again?
Seriously asking.
Takes money to keep them alive.
Cause at a point they eat more than they are worth.
While that may be true, that doesn't explain why farmers are supposedly being forced to euthanize them. This implies the farmers in question are willing to keep the existing livestock, well, alive. Shouldn't it be their business call?
Either way, this "just in time" supply chain crap really needs to end.
I've seen (on FB) where the self-sufficiency groups have been buying animals directly from the 'farms' and processing the animals themselves.
The elimination of middlemen is a boon and I wonder if this might lead to auxiliary business or entirely new models.
Those hormones are causing problems in the people who eat it now.
I wonder though, there must be "organic" or hormone-free farms where the animals are more. These were probably more expensive to begin with, but they will probably get more expensive now.
Call a nearby family farm with grass fed animals and order a quarter or half a cow now and then. (Of course they all sold out as people filled their freezers during COVID).
This helps. Thanks!
I am not entirely sure but I think their meat becomes unpalatable and ranchers do not have the resources to keep extra livestock around that will be worthless. They are better off letting new animals come in with the hopes that once they reach the right age, things will be back up and running again.
There is also a process that animals go through in the weeks leading up to slaughter that I am pretty sure they can only go through once. They significantly change their diet and I am sure taking them off of that diet is not an easy process. There is only a small window during that process where you can slaughter them for their meat. Plus, I am sure the risk of disease increases as the animals age.
They need to get some Far UV lights installed, and HCQZZ prescribed.
No but the 30 million unemployed might. Oh wait, they're sat at home making $800/week.
You don't think so? WATCH this Robotic meat processing There are better ones
You're correct
https://www.activistpost.com/2020/04/bill-gates-worked-to-end-livestock-production-pushed-lab-grown-meat.html
Does POTUS know this and why is he not stopping it. This is to create a shortage, the farmers, ranchers TOLD US, and need to sell meat and there is a market, we are not eating less, and we will be starving for this foolishness shortly. Has POTUS even said a word or is he still concentrating on China & Tarriffs, etc. and missed all of this???.
Does he know some of us BELIEVE this was all a scam to wreck the economy and his Presidency and this country and us and force us into no alternative but Socialism when the Left steals the next election when no one is trying to stop the voter fraud, just wishful thinking - hoping the governors do not MAKE us vote by mail, WHICH THEY WILL DEMAND in November, when they are still telling us we must continue to social distance due to all the new cases of CV (created by either lies or contamination)??????
Why doesnt he think that???? After all the other attacks on him??? It is obvious.
No one thinks it is a coincidence the day some states open partially, the biggest number EVER OF CV CASES SUDDENLY SPIKED in that state, or deaths, or some extraordinarily large number related to CV? Contaminated, or fake numbers by Left organizations who run the counting sites is more like it, or MSM LIES. Which is it??? Sometimes I really wonder why isn't White House or citizens seeing this and demanding answers?????.
Or an episode of Alex Jones
And yet here we are, this fucking timeline.
Consipretard
The left would love to collapse the meat industry so we're all on a cheap kibble diet that their globalist big aggro overlords can produce for nothing. I will never, as long as I live, eat this fucking swill. Human beings evolved on meat. Our primitive ancestors were not monocropping corn 50,000 years ago during the Ice Age. They were taking down megafauna and eating almost nothing else. That's how we thrived and spread all over the planet. I eat shit tons of meat and almost nothing else and I feel great. The whole anti-meat tack is a crock of brainwashing bullshit designed to foist cheap, unpalatable, unhealthy processed sludge down the gullets of weak, stupid beta humans to make them weaker, stupider, and more pliable to the coming globalist order. Be human, eat meat.
Argument’s against meat are hilarious. Every diet that lacks meat requires supplementation in direct proportion to how much meat it lacks. If your diet requires scientific supplementation to be remotely viable, it’s not by definition a healthy diet. Even with just vegetarian and not vegan diets, it requires a level of planning and nutrient combining of divergent species on a level no one ever would have done in a million years before now. And they didn’t have to, they just ate some meat. Most people don’t notice deficiencies for years in some cases because with some vitamins that’s how long it takes for your body to run out of its built up stores, which came from meat.
All hyper palatable and over processed foods are plant based. If someone were to go carnivore, they mostly just lose weight. The best is still a mix of both, just like people have being doing for fucking forever.
There was a famous former vegan (Tynan Daniels maybe?) who had been vegan for decades until her body began to fail in multiple ways. Her doctor told her to eat meat and it turned her life around. It saved her life. She wrote a book about it and made her views public and ended up needing to buy a gun, get an alarm system, and a pitbull to deal with the death threats. These people are simply unhinged and an example of how our society has become soft and lost.
There’s also a famous case of newborns being fed vegan and dying. You have to admit it’s hilarious that vegans are out there making death threats and killing their own in an effort to morally support animals that at this point can’t live on their own without us. And they do it by eating exclusively plants grown in areas where countless animals die but aren’t considered.
“At least they’re not slaughtered and eaten!”
Yeah, they’re just poisoned and thrown out.
Nobody ever thinks that shit through. There’s no setting cows ‘free’. A good portion of animals also eat each other for fun and nutrients. Plants are also living things.
It’s cool if someone wants to be a vegan for more reasons. The issues arise when they try to justify it in ways that extend beyond their feelings, which is when it all hits the fan. “COWS ARE CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING!!!!” Yeah okay. Because giant industrial farms for plants are making it better. Plenty of cow pastures are net neutral or negative on that.
I remember one time in college, PETA members had a stand set up outside of a dorm and they were handing out fliers that advocated for the mass culling and euthanasia as pets to "liberate them from human overlords". No joke. They want you to kill your pets. They were shut down in about an hour after people started fights with them and girls were crying due to the imagery.
We have things like that in the Bay too. People locking themselves in cages and covered in blood, paying people $1 to watch videos of animals being slaughtered, etc. Spray painting campaigns saying meat is murder.
If you’re going to be belligerent vandals, I don’t like your cause, sorry.
No carnivore is vegan. Things eat other things. There are probably more animals out there that would eat a Vegan than there are animals to save by not eating them.
Just DDG-ed it. Tynan Daniels is the guy who took her photograph for the article, Jordan Younger is the name of the lass you spoke of
https://nypost.com/2015/11/04/my-vegan-diet-almost-killed-me/
+1 for ddg-ing it and not gulag-ing it.
Yep thanks. I'm retarded lol.
See also: Miley Cyrus's ex-husband. May be too late for him, dick in crazy and all.
That documentary was such well made propaganda. Did you see the guy defend it on Rogan? Hours and hours of him just attacking the other guy while leaving the entire core issue unaddressed of whether a diet free of animal products is healthy that a diet including them.
It was just the whole episode. And Rogan unfortunately didn’t destroy him, which is why people were mad. Rogan just let the Game Changers guy pick at the other guy the entire time and be angry. He didn’t spend 1 second of the whole interview / debate justifying veganism, just not picked at minor criticisms of him. It was a massive moderation failure on Joe’s part. Just imagine if during a presidential debate the entire thing was just Trump picking at Biden. Fun as that is, it wouldn’t be fair if both sides didn’t have questions and things to defend.
Who guys? I didn't. You are absolutely correct and were then. Meat is HIGHLY political these days. The globohomo agenda is all wrapped up in it. They want us weak, unable to think, sick, and then dead.
GO VEGAN AND DIE
Is POTUS aware or oblivious or what? I am getting a little ... curious. Maybe that isnt the right word. We need to talk about this and POST IT EVERYWHERE, before they cull the entire country of meat for no reason. And they hae been plowing under our crops, saying schools and restaurants are closed, but people still eat at home! We still need it. and dumping milk, and killingmillions of chickens? No eggs, vegs, meat.milk, what else is there????? WTF is going on? And the sale of all the soy etc. to China for the first time . . it must be part of it ... that China bought it this one time.... to further shorten our food supply. POTUS just said last night he thought it was such a great idea to sell them all of that food. Cant POTUS see this is a trap to starve us to death???
This was me and forced vax on T_D. This last few months and the move here was like the intergalactic brain meme.
Well I believe you. It all adds up to me. The workers get sick in two locations to a huge degree: meat packing plants and and nursing homes??? Coincidence? No way. I think both were targeted. Then this year we sold all the soy beans which are not a substitute for meat, but a protein, to China of all places. For the first time ever. Is that why China bought it, to further cut our food supply????. Sounds likely. Yet Potus still thinks it is a good deal to sell the soy beans to China, to make money... but we can't eat money! It takes animals a year to reproduce. We can't just manufacture meat for the population overnight!!!! Does he see these things and know he must stop culling the animals, or is he oblivious to what is going on, concentrating on investigating China, still thinking it was an accident and getting back to work which the left is hindering at every single opportunity, is the only way and he doesn't even see what else is going on???? I think China and the Left, NWO, had this all planned out and are executing a nightmare on America. We need to get POTUS to see what is going on, or tell us he is aware, because sitting here waiting for the shit to hit the fan is going to kill people if he is unawae, & giving China and the Left the benefit of the doubt or does not see this at all. We will start starving to death a few months down the road. No way to fix that. And at this rate, it is entirely possible and the Left will do all they can to make it happen, to force communism or socialism as the only choice. How do we make sure POTUS sees this is a trap?? That it was all a trap??
Cop worship is ridiculous. They are human, and humans are flawed. There are good cops, great cops, ok cops, and shit cops. There are enough shit cops to ruin the profession for the good and great ones. Worshipping Cops is cucking to the fucking government. I will have respect for those who stand with the Constitution above their department, the rest can fuck off to hell. I am also of mind that those who purposely go against their oath should be publicly executed. That shit would keep the mother fuckers honest.
I feel your pain, there was also a lot of Cop worship on T_D. I am so glad people here are waking up. I mean it was easy to see who's side they were really on. For the past few years independent reporters like Millie Weaver, Kaitlin Bennett, Owen Shrower, were constantly harassed by cops at protests.
There are plenty of good cops out there. Just not many in Leftist hellholes. Or at least many fewer.
There are some vegan pedes on here who think that their vegan diets makes them better lovers, I recall seeing that foolishness last week. Maybe they'll eventually smarten up.
Keto is good for the obese.
'Plant Based' does not have to mean 'Meat Free.' Just majority plants. A lot of plants aren't especially good food choices.
THere is actually evidence that we ate a ton of vegetables too, just not things that we cultivated because we did't know how yet. Veganism would have killed us. The people who claim otherwise love say they believe in science but this a baseless claim. For one thing, do they really think we killed a mastodon and made coats and gloves for the whole tribe and just let that giant carcass rot? Those goes against their Native American worship lol. No, someone would have tried it out and gone, 'hey guys, this is the shit." Today we know how much nutrition there is in fat, hearts, kidneys, liver, etc. The kind of science a vegan does is 100x more stupid than the kind a climate scientist does.
Polar bear livers are so high in vitamin A they can kill a man.
Point? I guess it's lucky for us we aren't out eating entire polar bear hearts on the regular, nor is anyone on earth.
This simply isn’t true. At what point, and where, would there have been enough vegetation to feed people? And the civilization that would be able to continue running that without being taken over. I’ll wait.
You try to call people out but then don’t put any sources yourself. Use your critical thinking. Do you think, at any point in primitive human history, we had crops like we do not to feed people? All fruits and vegetables are seasonal. Animals are not. I’m not saying we are no fruits or vegetables, but to claim “a lot” is pure horse shit.
Nobody is saying they had crops. It's pretty interesting to me that you would call this pure horseshit because clearly you haven't even looked into it and are being defensive for some reason. Your "critical thinking" doesn't replace fact. Look into it and you will find evidence that plants played into the ancient diet. Hell, I live in the city and I can take a walk for an hour and find enough plants to eat for the day. As far as critical thinking goes, ask yourself why we would have ever decided to invent crops if vegetables weren't so important to us. Also ask yourself why our teeth aren't all sharp like other carnivores. We are omnivores quite clearly which means we evolved to eat more than meat which leaves us with vegetables as well.
I don't have time to educate you against your preconceived notions but here are some links to get you started. Mincing over words like " a lot" is fairly pointless.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2115127-ancient-leftovers-show-the-real-paleo-diet-was-a-veggie-feast/
https://phys.org/news/2014-06-neanderthals-vegetables-evidence-neanderthal-diet.html
I said they played a part, it was just small. Calorie density is not high in plants. They are deficient in necessary nutrients. The effort it would take to gather enough plant material, especially a wide variety of different plants, to feed an entire family, or small village would be impossible on a regular basis. They are seasonal. You’re just being a sheep.
How am I being a sheep for stating facts with sources that plants have always been part of our diet. What do you think people were getting scurvy from on ships long ago? Lack of meat?
Here is another source that shows that without pants you will be deficient in certain things. You see I've studied the topic and you have clearly not which is why you've resorted to name calling. Classic.
https://naturalon.com/10-nutrients-you-can-only-get-from-plants/view-all/
" The effort it would take to gather enough plant material, especially a wide variety of different plants, to feed an entire family, or small village would be impossible on a regular basis."
Really? So where is your source? Where is proof of that. Are roots seasonal? Nuts? Calling me a sheep sounds a lot like projection. You are being willfully ignorant in addition to misinterpreting what I've said, seemingly on purpose.
Lol I just read all 3 of your sources. One of them found the first site with evidence...the second found two samples from a Neanderthal, but the article admits it could have been the plant matter in the belly of the animal. Then it says that they were mostly meat. Haha. You killed your own argument. Vitamin C is in meat, especially in organ meat like liver.
There are only two essential needs for humans, amino acids and fatty acids. Guess what has those in abundance? Meat.
Again, I said they were part of diets, just small parts. My source is human history. Go to any wild place right now and find enough food to feed a family for weeks.
Scurvy was caused by multiple things, lack of meat being one of them. Did you know humans who eat only meat don't get scurvy? Of course you didn’t.
Arguing with people like you is a waste of time. You know you’re wrong, but you’ll keep holding on to your strawman argument.
There's no reason to ever eat a plant when you have unlimited access to fat and meat.
Plants are highly toxic and full of natural insecticides and basically any plant that existed pre plant agriculture would have been fatal to consume.
Well, dietary fiber.
having undigestible plant material forced through your intestines constantly is actually extremely bad for us.
having more shits does not make you healthy... quite the opposite.
people on high fat carnivore diets have bowel movements every 4 days on average
this is why all the vegans panic bought toilet paper
Dietary fiber is completely useless. Humans can’t digest it. The only reason you would need fiber is to push other fiber out.
None of that is true. There are plenty of wild plants that you can eat today that are not going to kill you. What they will do is give you fiber along with vitamins and minerals. You may think all you need is meat and fat but the fossil record shows that our ancestors ate a lot of plants. I'm not sure why you think we are similar enough to insects that a plant's natural defeses will kill us. Plants and fungus (many of them) are very good for us. Vitamin C comes to mind for one thing.
At the end of the day you don't have unlimited access to meat. You only do today because somebody farms it. If we were all to hunt the meat would be gone very quickly.
https://www.sciencealert.com/fruits-vegetables-before-domestication-photos-genetically-modified-food-natural
I have to say, this whole year has been very good at getting Dems everything they were selling with the Green New Deal. Everything. Coincidence?
There is zero chance that this is a coincidence. The Democrats' only goal is to get rid of Trump and get their power back. They will stop at nothing to do that.
Russia Collusion didn't work.
Impeachment didn't work.
Even their filthy man-made virus didn't work.
So they will keep pulling apart the fabric of society in hopes that it collapses so badly we'll be begging the (Dem) government to impose socialism just so we can survive.
Do not fall for any of this, guys. Please. It is all by design, it is all deliberate, and it is all engineered by the Democrats.
We are in a war for our country. The Democrats have just chosen to infiltrate and rot everything out from the inside, instead of attacking with weapons from the outside. But it is just as deadly an attack and maybe more so because so many simply don't realize what's happening and still think the Dems are their friends.
THIS and the ONE thing we can do as Americans is VOTE LIKE YOUR FUCKING LIFE DEPENDS ON IT IN NOVEMBER (because it does), and bring your friends and family.
VOTE OUT ALL DEMS AND RINOs. GOP only, preferably endorsed by Trump himself.
We have a very small but ferocious group of fighters in Congress (Freedom Caucus) but we need OVERWHELMING wins in the congressional races (plus of course the Prez/VP) in order to not only advance the MAGA agenda, but to merely survive as a Constitutional republic.
I think the globalist left really did finally realize that if Trump wins another term ,they are fucked, and their takeover of society of the last 60 years will have been all wasted effort. So they are willing to go scorched earth and destroy EVERY element of our society if need be to get citizens so morose they beg for socialism.
just please for God's sake do NOT NOT NOT think of using vote-by-mail. If someone has to carry you, get yourself to your polling place in person.
The only purpose of Vote By Mail is so the Democrats will have an easier time of cheating their asses off and stealing the election. NO to Vote By Mail!
The BLM told farmers they will take away their farming license for the next year if they dont follow the euthanasia orders.
This all stinks to shit.
I mean China is considering worst case violent scenario conflicts with America. The globalists which is probably a lot of China are trying to weaken our country before the war.
We are more divided than ever (right out of using cultural Marxism as a weapon against enemy countries) we have financially devestated our economy after 4 years of building it up, a police state has been implemented in some places. Misinformation was given ALOT
Then you have bill gates everywhere you look and he’s cozy with the Chinese along with all of our media and apparently democratic politicians like Pelosi who said she doesn’t want to investigate China she wants to investigate trump, AGAIN!
I cannot wait to beat them in November. Don’t like to get my hopes up, but it will be a great day when they see the inside of a courtroom AND are actually CONVICTED and SENTENCED for everything they’ve done to this country.
Millions of hungry, out of work Americans would join the military to eat. This would be a bad time for China to fuck around.
demonstrating what socialism (which always leads to communism) actually looks like
This is what happens when "democratic" socialists can't win the vote.
They used to try to kill us with bullets, now they'll just starve us. Slower, but easier on their conscience.
We're witnessing dekulakization. Stalin started with "temporary emergency measures" too.
Communists used famine as a weapon in the past too. Look at the history of Ukraine:
"The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомо́р; Голодомо́р в Украї́ні; derived from морити голодом, "to kill by starvation") was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine in 1932 and 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians. It is also known as the Terror-Famine and Famine-Genocide in Ukraine, and sometimes referred to as the Great Famine or the Ukrainian Genocide of 1932–33. It was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–33, which affected the major grain-producing areas of the country. During the Holodomor, millions of inhabitants of Ukraine, the majority of whom were ethnic Ukrainians, died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe unprecedented in the history of Ukraine. Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
Artificial shortage.
Trump already made an EO to prevent this.
Or a place like sams club where you can buy the super mega sized packs of everything. I'm from the cold war era so I have always kept the pantry and freezer full of goodies for when something bad happens. Has allowed me to grill steaks and eat fat during hurricanes when everything is closed for weeks.
Like Costco?
No news from walmart over rationing. Isn't costco majority owned by some rabid libs?
Ok looked up the investors and the top one was ran by a rabid lib rino who declares as an R but always votes and supports D's.
This is their last ditch effort to scare monger off the virus now the momentum is leaning towards reopening. Same reason you are getting a lot of reports of covid spikes from the media trying to scare people into staying home.
Tbf, if 66k people are dead, I wouldn't want to push those that can't go to work because of some pre-existing conditions to work.
We should take care of our own rather than let them die
East central US for me and other than some token social distancing signs and sneeze guards at the registers you can buy whatever you want as much as you want. They did limit toilet paper at the start with all the idiots coming in a buying up cartloads of it but otherwise no rationing. Entire state is more or less open past the restaurants and gyms.
shrugs Gotta buy my stuff somewhere and sams is like walmart just with bigger boxes of stuff. I'd love to shop a fully patriotic store but those don't seem to exist in our current corporate environment.
As to BJ's its another lib owned company with donations to all the normal D candidates.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary?id=D000042052
https://www.google.com/search?q=BJ%27s+Wholesale+Club+ownership
I belonged to one here for a while, but they closed the location. Not as nice as Costco, but had more stuff in smaller household sizes.
What's wrong with Walmart?
Everything.
I should look into this. My family was talking about buying a half of a cow and splitting the cost between all of us.
Half steer usually costs about 5-6 bucks a pound for about 250 pounds of assorted beef. It's a great deal if you have the freezer space.
FIL used to always have the big chest freezer in the basement full of beef in butcher paper when my wife was growing up. When she went away to college, she honestly had no idea how to buy beef in the grocery store. For her, "buying beef" was going to the basement and digging around in the freezer.
Got a whole hog on the way. Going directly to the source is the way.
I love my local US foods!
I'm a carnivore and I buy meat in bulk. I go through 15+ lbs of red meat a week. Any tips on how to buy meat in bulk through a supplier? Needless to say I'm worried about this meat shortage. I'll start hunting wild game before I go back to eating processed carb poison.
Just search up "buy half beef" and your state. There are farmers selling beef everywhere.
I've started becoming more of a carnivore, and am looking to get into hunting so that I can provide meat for my family that way rather than just grab something at Costco
Find a meat producer or processor and buy a half cow or full cow and have them butcher it for you.
I've used U.S. Wellness Meats in the past. Grassfed stuff. Yeah, pricey up front but if you look around for the big cuts/volume you'll get some deals.
It isn't meat but I like getting their beef tallow in the big container. Use it as a cooking/frying oil. Make pemmican bars in hard times.
Or your local butcher shop, who will give you a better product than these foreign owned and illegal alien staffed processing plants.
Yep, they created an artificial toilet paper shortage and now they're creating an artificial meat shortage, I wonder how long until (if it hasn't happened already) the fake news media starts pushing the "muh food shortage" narrative?
And we thought people fighting over TP was bad, better stock up people, shit is about to get real.
Hopefully it doesn't get to that point.
I already have a 25 pound bag of rice, beans, Jerky, ECT
I think I'll survive yet another democratically created Crisis.
I know people who hunt in southern states who helped me out.
Great way to preserve meat especially if you anticipate power shortages. Hurricane season in the south is a constant reminder of that.
I won't knock the commercial survival kits but there's something empowering about knowing how to can, pickle, and make your own jerky, pemmican, and hardtack. Shelf stable and lasts for years.
Hank Williams, Jr. - "A Country Boy Can Survive"
Yea, I should really teach myself how to can, even in the cities, we could learn a lot from those who know how to self reliance.
Well, doesn't the MSM just sabotage their own pro-lockdown propaganda if they'd report on shortages? Or will they insist on lockdowns while blaming Trump anyway (for whatever reason)?
Regardless, let the Democrat controlled areas collapse and suffer. They need that harsh lesson. Bad for the conservatives and Libertarians there, but otherwise nothing will ever improve. These places that self-sabotage must suffer the consequences of their actions, so that they realize the insanity of Democrats and MAYBE consider not to vote them into office that much.
In Los Angeles, I went to the store yesterday and found a whole bunch ofmeat. They were limiting it to two products per customer, but the shelves were filled, and I bought 3 pounds of ground beef for various meals for this week and next. My dad did say there might be a pork shortage coming, but I'm honestly not worried for the long run.
Some major processors have been shut down due to the hysteria of Covid. If no one is there to butcher, the cows stay outside and the whole system backs up. Dems have made a mess of things as a last ditch effort to ruin Trump and us.
Mexican grocers always have good meats. I should find one since I cook meat so much. Do you mind sharing which one, if in CA of course.
My liberal girlfriend has mostly been pretty good about not freaking out for most of this and even makes fun of some of the more hysterical people.
I bought extra corned beef around Saint Paddys day. Glad I did.
You’re part of the problem but dog eat dog
The Smithfield Plant “hotspot” is already reopening today.
Chicken has been fuckin nasty for the past year, look up woody chicken. Ive been eating mostly pork and beef...
Brought to you by a company that won’t let you in the store without a mask? My local supermarket has been fine on meat
All of them. They work in unison.
Major meat packers owned by China. This is a planned event.
Important to note that many meat processing companies in this country are owned by CHYNA
Wow, what a coincidence.
Our local plant was bought by Chyna in 2013, also it was a Corona hotspot in our state, and even nation.
Coincidence? I think not.
Same thing in Canada.
WTF
For instance, the chinese company WH Group recently bought Smithfield's, which is the largest pork producer on the planet. And this US company is the one their chinese owners ordered them to shut down. And that is why Trump activated his war powers and reopened the processing plants against the orders of their Chinese owners.
The war is being fought.
Eminent domain everything owned by China immediately.
How in the fuck are government controlled businesses allowed in the US? China would never allow a company controlled by the US government to operate there, especially not for food. They aren’t that stupid. I fucking hate our politicians.
Even in 3rd world countries you can't even get a business license without being a citizen of said country or at least married to one.
Costco also forcing members to wear face masks.
Force the mask, I won't come back.
Yea they just closed a "Business" Costco that was always empty, compared to the apocalyptic mad house regular one about 20 minutes away, as an online order storage location.
What they've done is cram even more people into a tiny space in an effort to oppress everyone and enforce the new normal™, you know, for science.
No longer going to that Washington(Microsoft) birthed cuckshed.
Costco is a terrible place to support. They are starting to put family farmers out of business by building mega animal farms to sell to people for cheaper than normal farmers can afford.
source?
https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/news/hidden-costs-behind-costco-chicken
Not trying to be combative, but costco was already sourcing their chicken supply from mega farming corps
If you can find a source showing costco getting their 70M+ chickens a year from local farmers and switching to their own mega farms, then your point of "putting family farmers out of business " becomes a bit more valid
For the record I buy as much food as I can locally from farmer's markets...
exactly
Someone in the Chinese costco subreddit said that they aren’t actually enforcing it unless your state has a mask policy (whatever the fuck that is).
Yep. Lowe’s guy now for sure. Also no longer shopping at Costco
We’ve done vegan before and everyone in my family felt great. It’s just boring and meat tastes so delicious. But learn to cook beans, they’re hearty and healthy and if you use a little bacon or pork bones or chicken broth, you can get that meat flavor and make it go a long way. Ask your grandmother for tips.
We can get through this time without panicking, Americans can support each other.
If we weren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made of meat?
This guy logics.
Also what’s with all the meat flavored vegan food?
If we made plant-flavored meat that looked like plants, what would the vegans do?
Let’s not tell them
I’m an omnivore not a carnivore
I see you are also a member of PETA - People for the Eating of Tasty Animals
So are people though.
So you're supposed to eat dogs? They're made of meat.
I hate vegans with a passion, but still upvoted you for being so god damn sensible.
Hahahaha!!
Lol wtf you hate someone for not eating meat? I think it's weird and stupid but you hate them? Dang son.
Not the person you asked, but....
I think there is a difference between what most people think of as a "vegan" (OMG HOW DARE YOU EAT THOSE UNFERTILIZED EGGS THAT WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TRASH IF NOT EATEN?) and a "vegetarian" who simply doesn't eat meat. "Vegan" carries a certain "Karen" persona with it that nobody likes.
It's the same reason I never buy products with a Vegan label on them. It's not that I hate animals. I just don't like rewarding a business for catering to that particular entitled crowd. I can buy noodles or vegetables and read the ingredients like normal people.
I would never deny myself anything because of a silly label.
Yeah, but I don't want some overly-sugary hipster noodles either.
I'm exaggerating. The vocal ones mildly irritate me. They are free to eat what they want, I just wish they'd shut up about it.
I'm a vegan (a non-absolutist one) and I hate vegans. lol
Which is why I normally avoid ever mentioning it to anybody.
Why would you hate someone for choosing not to eat meat?
If they are shoving it in your face then yea, fuck them, but besides that?
I'm exaggerating. The vocal ones mildly irritate me. They are free to eat what they want, I just wish they'd shut up about it.
Because it's a laughable conceite of a first world industrialized farming society. Imagine every grocery store is closed, and look out your window. What's your next meal going to consist of?
If everyone starts eating beans, what do you think will have to that part of the supply chain? You can't just have people make massive shifts in consumption in a short time frame without serious issues.
Do you have any idea what would happen if people start trying to replace all the meat they eat with beans? It doesn't matter how much is produced already, what matters is how much more would be demanded and what that would do to the supply chain.
I have enough beans to make it my daily grain for a year. So I could start eating it every day and no one would notice for several more harvests.
I also horde quinoa and lentils. Probably have more than 100 lbs of dry grains not including rice. I'll get around to buying another bag of rice. The last one lasted me 2 years.
Smart move by stocking up on stuff like that!
I do it accidentally. I bulk shop at Costco, and my friends ran a temporary food bank a few months ago so they had to get rid of whatever they couldn't give away.
Also, you should never worry about America's food supply in basics like grains or beans. Who do you think has been feeding the entire world all this time? Ingenious Zimbabwean farmers? Polluted industrial China? Lazy anti-capitalist Europeans?
It's America. If trade ever stops and we can't export food, we'll be stuck with another food to feed 3 billion people every year. It's why we're already destroying herds of animals and dumping tanker trucks of milk right now. Pretty soon we'll be plowing over crops instead of harvesting them.
The biggest problem in America is how to destroy enough food to feed entire continents without creating toxic fields of rotten food and meat with accompanying rodent and scavenger hordes.
And honestly we'll probably fail, there is just too food we need to destroy. Oh and our close ally Brazil has the same issues. Together we feed the world.
There is also a certain amount of acreage planted in beans to meet a certain demand. If demand shifts drastically, you can't just produce more beans on the fly.
I have literally fixed my health issues and weight with a carnivore diet - this is not an option for me as my anxiety and other things will come back full force.
SAME. If I can't eat keto, I start going downhill fast... I was unable to keto for about a month there, and everything I had keto'd for started to come back. I've already taken a doctors trip for complications due to it.
Have a rifle and a place to hunt?
Unfortunately I’m in Arizona and all our big game hunting is tagged and limited and small game is not exactly great to eat in the summer.
Im not against eating meat, but id wager a lot of that isnt so much the goodness of meat but the fact you cut out a lot of grains.
keto cuts out all starches and almost all fruit. It doesnt cut out a lot of grains it cuts out ALL grains, ALL starchy veg, and almost all fruit. What are you left with? Dairy, eggs, meat, watery vegetables, and a limited amount of berries/lemons.
Liver is the most nutritious and nutrient dense food on the planet. Beef is one of the only known hypo-allergenic foods. Nothing that is NOT animal-derived has the correct form of D, A, & K (unless you count Natto on the K), a complete amino acid profile, B12, or heme iron. There are also vital omega-3's in meat. People who hate meat like to say you can get omega-3 from flax. That flax omega-3 has the completely wrong balance of EPA/DHA, way way too much ALA and omega-6, and because it's a seed, it also has anti-nutrients in it that prevent absorption of vitamins and minerals.
So... it is the goodness of the meat.
ALA can be converted to both EPA and DHA.
EPA and DHA regulate the blood and your body knows exactly what levels those horomones should be at.
Flax is a great source of omega 3 and toasting the seeds before sprinkling on yogurt, cereal, or cottage cheese allows for maximum absorption.
I went vegan for 6 months as preventative maintenance and it worked quite well.
I was never a "real" vegan because I wouldn't dump my leather belts and shoes into landfills and admitted steak tastes great and I don't care about the feelings of animals being harvested for food even when I chose not to eat any myself.
Everybody's different and has certain foods that agree with their intestinal flora.
I hope you are not assuming that I don't know that "ala can be converted to epa/dha". That is not an easy conversion for the body to make, and the sheer amount of ala required to produce adequate levels of epa/dha is obscenely high, and leaves you ingesting far too many omega 6's and ala to GET that epa/dha.
However, even though i disagree with you about veganism, I do agree with you about gut flora. It's cool to talk with someone else who 'gets it' on the gut flora.
For instance, keto is fixing what was wrong with me from going vegan. But I don't think that everybody needs to keto for optimal health necessarily, because peoples bodies and gut flora are different. I think people must eat animal products to some degree for good health, but going keto is only really necessary for people who have issues that keto can fix like polycystic ovarian syndrome, metabolic disorder, epilepsy, etc.
That's it. I'm eating all my Democrat neighbors now.
Mostly fat, no meat. Very greasy. And riddled with TDS, which I don't think can be cooked out. I think I prefer starvation.
You'll be shitting socialism for a week.
and blue hair dye
Loaded with transfat too
Kek!
Man I'm so hungry I'm going to eat myself retarded.
God bless Alex Jones
Agreed
Yep, it's going to be like the Donner Party in my area.
The only "looming" is being done purposefully by our enemies.
Trump announced the US is seeking independence from Chinese goods.
Good thing we can still go hunting and fishing, oh wait, I'm in California, all the lakes are closed and gun shops are closed too.
WA, I think we opened fishing but the only other two things I'm aware of are golfing and housecleaning. Now let's see which income level really needs the golfing and housecleaning? Our politicans are tired of the "new normal" for them, not us.
Can we get the PRIME act passed so so farms can sell their product directly without having to go through 100 hoops
Cancel. You can always renew when (if?) they remove this stupid policy.
Why pay for things you dont use? Cancel that shit yo
Cancel, support local businesses and family farms instead
Fuck Costco. I won't be renewing.
Support your local grocery.
This is completely manufactured like everything else / ORDER THEM TO PRODUCE !!
This has something to do with ranchers being told to slaughter their livestock and multitudes of chicken farms having their chickens killed.
Winnie the Flu didn't work to hurt the President so the Deep State is going to try and manufacture a country-wide meat shortage.
Good thing I've got a deep freezer packed with chicken, steak, pork, beef, etc.
Suck my dick globalist scum!
Keep your rifle zero'd and your hunting spot secret.
I have never hunted animals before. Ive only hunted other humans.
But considering they were terrorist, shitstains; you could consider them to be animals.
Chewy and stringy, with faint notes of BO and paprika. You have strange tastes.
There are always zoo animals 🦒🦓🦏
We aren’t Venezuela, despite the best efforts of the left.
or the squirrels in my yard that keep burying nuts in my lawn
Just a hunch, but I bet liberals taste like chicken.
They most likely taste like soy and whatever chemical is in hair dye.
Nope, leftists are all salt.
tofurkey
Pork.
No meat shortage in this house. Still got a freezer packed with delicious venison from the deer I got last season.
The silver lining is the 3lbs bags of chicken breast I usually buy like a chump were sold out, so I ended up finding 6lbs bags for even less money. Covid panic FTW!
Too may rules @ Costco. I'm taking my dollars elsewhere.
Sams club is getting my wholesale business (never thought i’d say that) but fuck Costco for telling me to wear a jock on my face.
Right, it’s not Studio 54 for god sakes
"shortages"
"pandemic"
I'll eat the democrats before being forced to eat plant foods.
I've been fully carnivore for 10+ months now.
They'll give you indigestion and diarrhea.
Food poisoning!
You will get Karenitis.
Crash (mid-to-late March)
Burn <--we are here
Another B/S leftist scam.
Vote RED
Remove
<><>These Democrats need to be punished.
Feels like a ploy to get us use to eating bugs. Which MSM was pushing last year
Am I the only one wondering how the fuck there's a shortage? If restaurants are all closed, shouldn't there be a massive surplus?
There is a surplus. The problem is capacity crunch in meat processing. Those restaurants don't require any processing hardly. Cut a cow in quarters, bag the organs, done. So let's say 5 cuts with no plastic or paper to wrap the parts.
But to process it for home consumers, they have to cut the cow into hundreds of different parts and each one needs to be vacuum sealed or ground up then bagged. So 800 cuts, grinding, and yards of plastic to wrap up that cow.
This times a million is the problem. And here's the kicker, those meat processing plants under huge demand, have been shutting down cause of worker anxiety. Our meat supply is being forced through an eye of a needle to get to us.
So all that food we used to eat at restaurants now cannot be processed and is being destroyed as their exists no capacity to process it, and the existing capacity is being shut down.
Looks like it pays off to be a hunter and fisher! I still have a chest freezer full of meat. I strongly suggest my fellow pedes to start working on it too.
Can confirm one round of 7.76 NATO Is cheaper than 1 lb ground beef hehe
Today was my shopping day... I was already saying no to Costco because of the line outside, but now i won't go until they remove the Mac mask requirement.
Was in and out it Kroger quickly, got everything on my list at a decent price. Happy workers ....... Once lived Costco, but always felt that Costco was a big government / Dem aligned corporation on the front edge of big brother
Time for Victory Gardens.
Gardens, MREs, and raising chickens in the backyard. Its WWII rationing all over again boys.
Join the Land Army. Plant for victory today!
Sounds like it's time for more pepes.
Tell me again how this isn't a socialists wet dream.
I put limit two red meat items signage in my department last week. Idk why Costco is being used as barometer. Costco is always weeks behind in implementing policies that I have been working under for weeks one of the biggest grocers in the country
Also the issue isn't that there isn't product, we all know animals are being euthanized, it's a matter of plants having production capacity reduced in some cases less than 50%. Vendors have also told me that now the real problem for them is that since oil production has dropped, packers are running out of CO2 for gas packs and packaging for the product. Another issue is that vendors that mostly supply food service are having trouble trying to switch to retail for our stores, which results in either buyers not buying from them or I receive product that gives me little time to process before spoilage.
what does co2 have to do with oil production?
byproducts of oil refinement
I get small royalties on gas wells dug on our property about 10 years ago when fracking started up in our area. The company pays on the natural gas, but also by-products from the well. They process everything possible for max profit.
Don't see the limit at my local Costco yet, but a lot of meats are not in stock, such as chicken thigh, drumstick, etc.
We buy whole chickens for $0.92/pound at Wal-Mart. We part, bag, seal, and freeze most of them. Others I spatchcock and smoke. We use all the backbones for stock and freeze it too.
If it looks like there's gonna be a meat shortage, I'll buy a side of locker beef and have it processed. I have room for another deep freezer.
Why can't they freeze the meat so the animal life isn't wasted? I'd be perfectly happy to purchase surplus meat for my freezer.
Think of the place you work in and one person gets the flu.
The whole place has to close down for two weeks.
The perfect bioweapon. The perfect BW is not designed to kill. It's designed to cause chaos and the population will do the work for you. You never need to waste resources trying to take the target country over.
Wait till next year as this year's crops die in the fields. Because one person on the farm got the flu.
If nothing else happens prices will go up.... and up.....and up.
Not all places thankfully. An employee at the grocery store I work at was tested positive two weeks ago. The store was closed down the day they found out for a deep clean. Next morning, the store was open for business at normal time. The worker is doing fine, and as far as I know, no one else at my store has the Wu Flu.
Prepare now, unless Trump pulls a trick out his ass this'll only get worse come 2021.
My crossbow deems this a non-issue.
Tell OP to switch to a rifle because he'll have to defend his hunting spot.
No kidding my friend. Not to mention as soon as everyone starts hunting at once, someone's favorite hunting spot will be wiped clean from hunting and any animals left mass-migrating.
On an emergency supply website I was looking at, their hunting and fishing starter packs were sold out. You know what that means? People who don't normally hunt will be at it too.
I pray to God Trump sees a way out of this. He is literally our only hope. Even after COVID-19 we still have China to deal with. Trump and his Admin wants to kick China out of the US bargaining table completely, aggressively, and we all KNOW they won't take that sitting down.
We almost did a couple months ago in peacetime, and look what they've done to retaliate.
Meanwhile the Smithfield plant “hotspot” that started the meat shortage hysteria reopened today,
Bulk store limits wuantities of purchases. Imagine that.
Are there really supply shortages looming, to a sufficient degree that Costco needs to impose these limts? Or are the skittish masses just afraid of serious supply shortages, and trying to do with meat what they did with toilet paper a few weeks ago?
There's an actual shortage but only because farmers are being ordered to kill off their produce or have their licenses suspended.
It's not that "farmers are being ordered to kill" their animals, it's that no processing facilities are willing to take the animals, so the farmers have no choice but to kill them. Farmers who produce animals under contract for large companies, which actually own the animals, are being "ordered" by the companies that own the animals to kill them. Farmers who own their own livestock and produce for sale on their own behalf, are making the decision to kill their animals for the same reasons corporate owners are making that decision.
Nobody is being threatened with having licenses suspended unless they fail to maintain the required standards for animal care and animal waste management. But as animals keep giving birth and growing, with no processing facilities able to accept more animals, crowding quickly makes it impossible to maintain legally required standards without killing and disposing of a large number of animals.
Panic is panic, but with meat there's a limit to what people will buy. The goal is to increase buying demand to cover the lost restaurant deliveries, so that when the panic subsides the restaurant orders will be back online.
Meat hoarding wouldn't get as crazy as the toilet paper hoarding got, due to both price and limited freezer space. But it could go far enough to cause problems.
Finding the answer to that would be more important than the roll call of people who have stocked freezers. Not sure if those folks realize that this is an issue for everyone and it will make every other type of food stuff scarce. Great, you’re good for a month, what will you buy then? This problem is also far more complicated for for those with families. I’m sure the prepper who is only supporting himself can be pretty smug now, but to invest in food for the next six months for a large family is cost prohibitive when you are getting hit with every other day-to-day expense. In all honesty, this is why things need to be opened back up ASAP. And if meat processors are playing games Trump needs to kick their shit in.
Defense Production Act those assholes if they're shutting production for no reason.
No mention of the farmers forced to kill their livestock. Fucken comments show people know shit.
They need to start selling the beef on their own.
They sure do. The farmers, the workers, the community - everyone wins.
when was this?
fuckin hunts point, dude. Did you know theres a little spot near there on the edge of s bellevue/north renton where theres a tunnel? Its like an old railroad tunnel, long out of use. Its hidden in an area with no development that is very lush with ground-plants, shrubs and vines, but few trees.
It's like I wanna say maybe 3-5 miles southeast of hunts point?
EDIT now that I really think on it, it may have been a mining tunnel. Coal? I can't remember...
Not on this map. It looks like the logical terminus of what that map shows to end at Hobart. I read about it in Sons of the Profits, and thought it was interesting because I'd driven that section of 405 about a thousand times, and never noticed it, so I started noticing when id pass that area on the freeway. Then I started asking around and other people sometimes knew of it.
It was to do with the old boom from like 100 yrs ago. I swear it was a coal mine shaft. So it would make sense that its not on this map. But my memory can't be trusted on that point. I just remember that the area where it was at is so covered up, no wonder no one notices it. And I'm sure the exact spot, which I never bothered to try to locate, is fenced off private property-like or something.
Local it is then. Atleast here when Sams club closed costco went from pretty laid back to if you dont have our membership card you cant go to our food cart pretty fast.
Pelosi's plan is working! Way to go you communist motherfuckers!
We stocked up last Monday. HIt Costco (which was already pretty much wiped out) and then the grocery store. I don't think you could fit an ice cube in our freezers.
Something something something the fake news programmed me to say about you being a bad person for being prepared for whatever comes next.
When this is over, or better yet before, I hope we execute the pieces of shit who caused all these artificial shortages.
Seriously, how the fuck can there be meat shortages? Hardly any states were hit very hard by the Chinese virus except NY and a few others. All the other damage is self-inflicted by the stupid governors who decided to ignore science and data and turn into Kim Jong overnight.
It’s the huge Chinese owned slaughterhouses. They’ve been closing them due to outbreaks of China flu.
This is slightly funny because a few weeks ago Butcher Box sent me another giant box of meat which I didn't even want. So my freezer is completely at capacity with various meats. Accidental prepper.
*manufactured supply shortage.