If the retarded ADA mandates I have to sit next to some psychologically-stunted faggot with his emotional support squirrel on a commercial flight, then you’re gonna have to just deal with my not wearing a mask in public because of my asthma.
you should read “Letters from a Nut” - it’s got TONS of customer service letters like this!
E.g. guy mails the Ritz Carlton requesting a room where he can bring his own mattress because he tends to eat his mattresses and doesn’t want to incur a fee.
Even with the understanding that the Chinese eat some sick shit, it boggles my mind that, to some, bat soup was a more believable source of the KungFlu than the damn CDC & Virology labs in Wuhan.
Good. I'm an MD and here's my no BS advice: when wearing a mask claim you get panic attacks (hard to disprove). Here's a research paper discussing it. Here another article.
I don't have to lie. I actually have Sleep Apnea and COPD, though not as severe as it used to be. The mask is OK for a couple of minutes, but I get short of breath if forced to wear it much longer than that. I usually just wear it through the door to avoid the well intentioned who just don't want to be shut down by local tyrants. But once through the door, the mask hangs to the side and is only worn if I feel a cough coming on.
I've been fortunate to live in a state that understands the difference between encouragement to act and requirement to act. It leaves the citizen the right to adjust based on personal situations like mine without threat of incarceration or theft of funds by illegal fines.
I am thinking of taking a different approach with a variant. Our local CCW organization provides business cards for gun owners to leave with managers of stores and restaurants informing them that they lost a customer due to "no guns" signage. A similar message for "mandatory masks" would be nice.
Just don't wear a mask and walk in. Even in Commie-fornia, most places don't have anyone watchdogging the door. And if they do, they often don't seem to care or pay attention. Most of the time it's smooth sailing from there. Occassionally you'll get a Karen telling you to put a mask on, but when that happens, I ask politely if they're saying I'm not allowed to shop there. If they tell me no, not without a mask, I leave my shopping items where they are and walk out.
Sheer fabric over the entire head....I use fabric that looks opaque from the outside. This freaks people put because they can't see your eyes. The benefit is that there's actually a big open air space below your mouth and nose. As you walk the fabric "swooshes", and you get fresh air. Yes, I know this is basically a burqa, but we gotta take this to one extreme or the other to wake people up.
most places don't have anyone watchdogging the door. And if they do, they often don't seem to care or pay attention
Same in Commieginia. Some groceries do have a flunkie sitting out front to count customers and ask them to wear masks. All of these flunkies just sit outside texting and barely look at anybody entering the store, let alone say a single word to them. The only place that has given me any grief was my bank who wouldn't let me in without using hand sanitzer, and "kindly" asked me to wear a mask next time I visit. LOL, not happening.
I wish I could do this. I live in an area that as soon as I would do that, I probably would have a swarm of people freaking out and asking me to put it on again or running to the manager.
People actually walk outside with their dogs or riding their bikes with masks on...it's so crazy.
I actually made this very point regarding their stupid arrows and my arthritic knees. The words "reasonable accommodation" are in the act. Walking 20 feet when no persons are present against the arrow rather than 80 feet when my knees are killing me is a "reasonable accommodation"!
Nobody follows the arrows because nobody has time for that bullshit. I'm just trying to get some groceries so I can get home, go to sleep and dream of the days before the inmates ran the asylum.
Exactly what I was thinking. Now I can go to Costco again. I'm not wearing a mask unless I'm coughing & sneezing and if I'm coughing & sneezing, I won't be going to Costco anyway.
How dare you excersise common sense? The governments have been "hard at work" spending what's left of our taxes on programs that have no effect and stores have been spending thousands of dollars on duct tape to lead you around like a retarded sheep. Common sense just downplays all that hard work. Please be more considerate and follow the arrow like a good NPC.
Truth is what you make others believe. Im going to print it out, laminate it, and if anyone gives me shit, just tell them its state issued. But really, under ADA, you dont have to show anything to prove it. They cant even question you.
How do you know you're clean though? We all know you can have a disease, and be contagious, and not have symptoms. That doesn't even just apply to COVID.
Don't get me wrong, mandating people must wear masks is stupid and overreaching. However it isn't as simple as "Wear a mask if you feel bad, otherwise no point"
Printed this card out this morning. Waltzed into costco. Got stopped twice. They backed down both times. Got some dirty looks from the triggered Karens. Great success.
Any store requiring or not making a reasonable accommodation for people like myself have huge exposure. I can only wear a mask in situations that require it. Real pandemics, gimp play, dress-up with children etc, My mental health will not tolerate something other than that.
Frankly, I just can’t breathe at all. I go for a leisurely walk and I’m hugging and puffing and out of breath. Then I take off the mask and I can breath again. I don’t have any conditions that I know of, other than being an American Citizen, born with certain unalienable rights.
I used to work retail when I as young, let me fill you all in : Employees can't do shit to stop you. They're not even allowed to intervene when someone is blatantly stealing shit, beyond words. Now, they can talk to you, and a manager may try to stop you, verbally. Nobody can lay a finger on you. If the store has a self checkout, even better, now they can't even stop you from purchasing anything.
I'm not saying to go in and be a douche nozzle to them, as they don't get paid shit and probably don't agree with all the corporate crap either. Hell, the majority probably won't even say anything, unless they're an NPC Karen.
I figure worst case, they call the cops and you get hit with a trespass order. If you're polite, I doubt it would come to that.
By Law, can’t a store deny you entry or service if they require you to wear a mask? Isn’t it technically their rite to dictate who they service too. Like no shirt/no shoes no service?
But not for the purpose of discrimination against protected groups such as refusing service by skin color or disability.
A person with legit heart or lung issues, or claustrophobia or anxiety and panic disorders has legal cause to sue for denial of service for a mandatory mask policy.
If people start "fainting" in store while wearing a mandatory mask, the threat of a lawsuit may be enough to stop the policy.
Wrong. The Michigan dictate says anyone "medically able" which I interpret that anxiety caused by the mask is a medical condition where I don't need to wear a mask.
The Michigan dictate says anyone "medically able" which I interpret that anxiety caused by the mask is a medical condition where I don't need to wear a mask.
So does the Costco dictate. But it's just "able" IIRC for Michigan. I don't believe it's limited to medical. For other stores, I'd do as suggested above, wear the mask to get in the door, then play Karen and go see the manager. Explain why their policy is problematic and give them a copy of the card info. I'd reprint it without the red. You want to simply make the aware, not be obnoxious.
Not really. If the ADA says that a business can't discriminate against someone with a disability, in this case the inability to wear a mask, then that store must allow that person to shop.
It's not like asking them for a gay wedding cake. When walking into a store without a mask, you're not asking the business to perform any specific or unusual service. You just want to buy one of their cakes.
A better analogy would be walking into a business without shoes or a shirt and having them refuse service.
However, shirts and shoes are American social and hygienic standards. Masks are fucking Middle East bullshit and interfere with physiological function.
I think the line is suing the company to force them to let you inside. The left could complain all they want to that poor baker they harass, but they take it further and sue repeatedly. This card thing is more of a civil protest than anything else. The way I see it, businesses can still do as they please, they can refuse service, whatever. If anything it might make them take more responsibility for the policy themselves, instead of hiding solely behind public health.
You're bringing up a good point (too bad a out the downvotes). But the issue here isn't about forcing private businesses to accept our chosen behavior. It's about waking up the population at large.
Disobedience, stubbornness, and refusal to go with the flow must be seen in order for it to spread. And while I know that technically a private business should be able to set a dress code if desired, this shit has gone too far. They're being idiots, and we need to tell them so.
If the retarded ADA mandates I have to sit next to some psychologically-stunted faggot with his emotional support squirrel on a commercial flight, then you’re gonna have to just deal with my not wearing a mask in public because of my asthma.
I have an emotional support badger that I like to take on flights with me.
I've had it with these emotional support snakes on this carbon-producing plane
(SJW version)
"monkey fighting plane" FIFY
Name checks out. Print the damn card!!
I have an emotional support murder bee.
That's murder HORNET
I have an emotional support hooker. She sometimes wears a mask on Saturday nights.
Best comment! LMAO
I shit you not, there was one lady with a black rooster for her service animal. She walked around petting her big black service cock.
Im gonna need an emotional support dolphin with a 9000 gallon portable tank.
you should read “Letters from a Nut” - it’s got TONS of customer service letters like this!
E.g. guy mails the Ritz Carlton requesting a room where he can bring his own mattress because he tends to eat his mattresses and doesn’t want to incur a fee.
Yes but more importantly, does he wear a mask?
Of course. No one cared about who my badger was until he put on the mask
My emotional support Wuhan bat does not wear a mask because bat to human transmission is impossible (it requires a Communist virus lab to do that).
Even with the understanding that the Chinese eat some sick shit, it boggles my mind that, to some, bat soup was a more believable source of the KungFlu than the damn CDC & Virology labs in Wuhan.
Honey badger don't care.
Fly my emotional support pony, bigot
Fly the emotional support turkey, bigot
Take my purple goat wizard on the train, bigot
inb4 a firearm is an emotional support weapon ;)
Every week I hear about the few flights that are flying being packed with people and all types of people complaining about it.
Upvote for "emotional support squirrel"
Good. I'm an MD and here's my no BS advice: when wearing a mask claim you get panic attacks (hard to disprove). Here's a research paper discussing it. Here another article.
My wife legit can’t wear hers for more than a 10 minutes. She goes grocery shopping with me but has to leave the store to take off her mask
Print the damn card!! Print thedamn articles!!
Could you hook us up with that research paper again, please? The link expired.
link expired on first one . Thanks
Here is a link to Google results for the first article. So you can get around the "token" expiring for the file.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22milmed-166-suppl_2-83.pdf%22&rlz=1C1EJFC_enUS884US884&oq=%22milmed-166-suppl_2-83.pdf%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.694j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
There is one result. It's what were looking for.
I have one of those notes too. Its called the Constitution
I don't have to lie. I actually have Sleep Apnea and COPD, though not as severe as it used to be. The mask is OK for a couple of minutes, but I get short of breath if forced to wear it much longer than that. I usually just wear it through the door to avoid the well intentioned who just don't want to be shut down by local tyrants. But once through the door, the mask hangs to the side and is only worn if I feel a cough coming on.
I've been fortunate to live in a state that understands the difference between encouragement to act and requirement to act. It leaves the citizen the right to adjust based on personal situations like mine without threat of incarceration or theft of funds by illegal fines.
I don't have to lie either, but the card is still relevant.
You know not of which you speak child.
Fag
Go back.
Do you have a certain quota of stupid comments you have to leave in order to get paid by Soros/China?
You just gave me and idea...
Print them out at the Costco and then immediately hand them out at the Costco for extra fun.
Good idea.
I am thinking of taking a different approach with a variant. Our local CCW organization provides business cards for gun owners to leave with managers of stores and restaurants informing them that they lost a customer due to "no guns" signage. A similar message for "mandatory masks" would be nice.
it wont be long and we can just say something like it triggers my memory of being kidnapped or some other SJW bs! Its worth a shot.
Take your business somewhere else.
Don't wear a fucking mask if you actually have breathing problems for the love of God. You will drop from a heart attack in the warm weather.
What if it's required to wear in all stores?
After a few minutes, I get a little short of breath when wearing my mask to grocery shop...I have to wear it in order to get inside the store.
It's a horrible experience shopping these days.
I've got two methods now.
Just don't wear a mask and walk in. Even in Commie-fornia, most places don't have anyone watchdogging the door. And if they do, they often don't seem to care or pay attention. Most of the time it's smooth sailing from there. Occassionally you'll get a Karen telling you to put a mask on, but when that happens, I ask politely if they're saying I'm not allowed to shop there. If they tell me no, not without a mask, I leave my shopping items where they are and walk out.
Sheer fabric over the entire head....I use fabric that looks opaque from the outside. This freaks people put because they can't see your eyes. The benefit is that there's actually a big open air space below your mouth and nose. As you walk the fabric "swooshes", and you get fresh air. Yes, I know this is basically a burqa, but we gotta take this to one extreme or the other to wake people up.
Same in Commieginia. Some groceries do have a flunkie sitting out front to count customers and ask them to wear masks. All of these flunkies just sit outside texting and barely look at anybody entering the store, let alone say a single word to them. The only place that has given me any grief was my bank who wouldn't let me in without using hand sanitzer, and "kindly" asked me to wear a mask next time I visit. LOL, not happening.
I wish I could do this.
In this area, I would be asked immediately to put it back on. It's a very heavy D area. Not sure I could wear the sheer fabric all over.
People walk, run and ride their bikes outside with masks on.
Genuinely, pit it on at the door, take it off as soon as you pass the threshold.
Then all you have to worry about is the Karens inside
People can be upset. Let them be upset
I'm not going to listen to a bunch of lip from some Karen because I refuse to wear a mask.
Then walk away? If they want to be mad, they can be mad. It shouldn't have any effect on you or your day, keep walking.
I wish I could do this. I live in an area that as soon as I would do that, I probably would have a swarm of people freaking out and asking me to put it on again or running to the manager.
People actually walk outside with their dogs or riding their bikes with masks on...it's so crazy.
So? It's not that bad. Don't worry so much about everyone else
and then ta da, you're another covid death
I actually made this very point regarding their stupid arrows and my arthritic knees. The words "reasonable accommodation" are in the act. Walking 20 feet when no persons are present against the arrow rather than 80 feet when my knees are killing me is a "reasonable accommodation"!
Repeat after me REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION...
I've got absolutely trash knees, but I'm out of the loop here. What's this arrow thing you mention?
A lot of stores have taped arrows on their floors to show you which directions you are "allowed to walk".
I make a point to walk the wrong way the entire time I'm in a store with them.
I do too. Actually I STRUT against the arrows.
Lol ! Yes Sister..!!
Ohhhhh, of course, right! Silly me.
Lol, yes, it is ridiculous!
Nobody follows the arrows because nobody has time for that bullshit. I'm just trying to get some groceries so I can get home, go to sleep and dream of the days before the inmates ran the asylum.
My back understands your knee's pain. I had the same dilemma a couple of weeks ago. The arrow can shove off.
Came here to say the magic words. Thank you.
Exactly what I was thinking. Now I can go to Costco again. I'm not wearing a mask unless I'm coughing & sneezing and if I'm coughing & sneezing, I won't be going to Costco anyway.
How dare you excersise common sense? The governments have been "hard at work" spending what's left of our taxes on programs that have no effect and stores have been spending thousands of dollars on duct tape to lead you around like a retarded sheep. Common sense just downplays all that hard work. Please be more considerate and follow the arrow like a good NPC.
Or just go shopping and throw money at the cashier as you walk out.
I can type and print anything I want. What makes this true?
The information on the card is true which is what makes it true. Just as unlawful orders can and should be resisted because they are not true.
The TRUTH shall set you free.
Truth is what you make others believe. Im going to print it out, laminate it, and if anyone gives me shit, just tell them its state issued. But really, under ADA, you dont have to show anything to prove it. They cant even question you.
The Federal Government makes this true. Medical accommodations have a shit load of power in the U.S.
We're not all in places that have the freedom of Texas...wish we all were, though.
Let’s all mass-migrate to Texas! All the cool kids live there already; Alex, Steven, Matt...
Reminder that masks are only meant to prevent YOU from spreading.
If you are clean, wearing a mask does nothing.
How do you know you're clean though? We all know you can have a disease, and be contagious, and not have symptoms. That doesn't even just apply to COVID.
Don't get me wrong, mandating people must wear masks is stupid and overreaching. However it isn't as simple as "Wear a mask if you feel bad, otherwise no point"
Printed this card out this morning. Waltzed into costco. Got stopped twice. They backed down both times. Got some dirty looks from the triggered Karens. Great success.
Or just pull out your pocket Constitution.
Carry mine everywhere
Nice post!
The elements of this type of ADA claim are laid out here.
https://www.cd-lawyers.com/americans-with-disabilities-act-lawyers/title-iii-ada-claims/
Any store requiring or not making a reasonable accommodation for people like myself have huge exposure. I can only wear a mask in situations that require it. Real pandemics, gimp play, dress-up with children etc, My mental health will not tolerate something other than that.
Frankly, I just can’t breathe at all. I go for a leisurely walk and I’m hugging and puffing and out of breath. Then I take off the mask and I can breath again. I don’t have any conditions that I know of, other than being an American Citizen, born with certain unalienable rights.
This is how you do it. You are learning.
just joined this site.
thank you so much for it
I used to work retail when I as young, let me fill you all in : Employees can't do shit to stop you. They're not even allowed to intervene when someone is blatantly stealing shit, beyond words. Now, they can talk to you, and a manager may try to stop you, verbally. Nobody can lay a finger on you. If the store has a self checkout, even better, now they can't even stop you from purchasing anything.
I'm not saying to go in and be a douche nozzle to them, as they don't get paid shit and probably don't agree with all the corporate crap either. Hell, the majority probably won't even say anything, unless they're an NPC Karen.
I figure worst case, they call the cops and you get hit with a trespass order. If you're polite, I doubt it would come to that.
Mentally I can't identify as a cuck.
Carry this with you to your nearest Costco.
Wearing a mask causes me blurry vision (my glasses get fogged). This seems legit.
LOL. That's pretty good, and I'll keep a copy handy.
But I will tend to err on the side of not responding to any loser who confronts me about being a plain-bellied Sneetch.
By Law, can’t a store deny you entry or service if they require you to wear a mask? Isn’t it technically their rite to dictate who they service too. Like no shirt/no shoes no service?
But not for the purpose of discrimination against protected groups such as refusing service by skin color or disability.
A person with legit heart or lung issues, or claustrophobia or anxiety and panic disorders has legal cause to sue for denial of service for a mandatory mask policy.
If people start "fainting" in store while wearing a mandatory mask, the threat of a lawsuit may be enough to stop the policy.
Maybe people should start fainting more often...hmmm
Wish I had this with me this morning. I had to miss my cardiac MRI because they wouldn't let me not wear a mask.
Of course I was so upset I handled it not very well.
Seriously? That's fucked.
Yeah they had me escorted out of the hospital by security because I refused to wear one.
Wow. I have no words. Sorry, man.
Fuck Menards!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm printing this bad boy out and walking right into Costco.
Has anyone tested this at a cuck store like Costco?
Thanks Pede
Papers, Please!
Masks are retarded but stores are private establishments and can refuse their services to whom ever they want for whatever reason.
Umm, not really.
Oh must of missed masks being on the bill where an establishment cant discriminate agaisnt people of different color, religion or creed....dumbass.
hearts and minds loser. 4 more years on account of people like you failing to meet people on their own terms. enjoy the show.
You're an asshoe.
They also have a right to not let you in. Not really sure what this note really does TBH.
Wrong. The Michigan dictate says anyone "medically able" which I interpret that anxiety caused by the mask is a medical condition where I don't need to wear a mask.
So does the Costco dictate. But it's just "able" IIRC for Michigan. I don't believe it's limited to medical. For other stores, I'd do as suggested above, wear the mask to get in the door, then play Karen and go see the manager. Explain why their policy is problematic and give them a copy of the card info. I'd reprint it without the red. You want to simply make the aware, not be obnoxious.
I tried a mask for 5 minutes when I had to go into my office and started having a panic attack and difficulty breathing.
Not really. If the ADA says that a business can't discriminate against someone with a disability, in this case the inability to wear a mask, then that store must allow that person to shop.
It's not like asking them for a gay wedding cake. When walking into a store without a mask, you're not asking the business to perform any specific or unusual service. You just want to buy one of their cakes.
A better analogy would be walking into a business without shoes or a shirt and having them refuse service.
However, shirts and shoes are American social and hygienic standards. Masks are fucking Middle East bullshit and interfere with physiological function.
The gay wedding cake was a special order. And they shopped around to find a vendor that didn't like the idea.
Being a lesbian isn't covered under the ADA.
TD.w: Businesses are private and should have a right to serve or not serve anyone they want.
Also TD.w: I want to force a business to let me in.
Their side uses asymmetric tactics all the time, why should we tie our own hands? All’s fair in love and war.
Anyway, these businesses are ordering mask usage because they fear retribution from their government, not because they have some principled reason.
Because being principled is what distinguishes.
This idealistic flip flop wreaks of Dem tactics.
I think the line is suing the company to force them to let you inside. The left could complain all they want to that poor baker they harass, but they take it further and sue repeatedly. This card thing is more of a civil protest than anything else. The way I see it, businesses can still do as they please, they can refuse service, whatever. If anything it might make them take more responsibility for the policy themselves, instead of hiding solely behind public health.
You're bringing up a good point (too bad a out the downvotes). But the issue here isn't about forcing private businesses to accept our chosen behavior. It's about waking up the population at large.
Disobedience, stubbornness, and refusal to go with the flow must be seen in order for it to spread. And while I know that technically a private business should be able to set a dress code if desired, this shit has gone too far. They're being idiots, and we need to tell them so.