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carbonblob 6 points ago +6 / -0

To the Left, It'll never be "safe enough"... because if just one person dies? Then the Right doesn't care about people.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

88% of everyone on a ventilator is dying. The panic started due to potential of shortage of "ICU beds and ventilators." If they had told us 88% of everyone on a ventilator dies anyway, would people have placed such a high valued on having 10x as many as we need?

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thisisatestof2 5 points ago +5 / -0

What we keep forgetting is it was initially supposed to be a “two-week” shut down to let hospitals repair then everything begins to open back up. The left kept moving the goalposts on what was needed in the goal of the shut down which is now something like stopping all Death Or what not.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

I haven't forgotten that at all.

April 1 a large part of the country was fine to open up fully. Some cities maybe not.

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filthyprotozoa 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let's be Real. We all know the '2 week' figure was just that. A model for development.

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filthyprotozoa 3 points ago +3 / -0

Met a Customer today who was laid off two months before COVID-1984. Why are people like them being marginalized because of timing? Anyone unemployed to this point from Jan 2020 should have the same boost. No one chooses when to be laid off. In a way, those laid off prior are more deserved because they are coming in to it blind.

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filthyprotozoa 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're not wrong. Our ideological counterparts are sly.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sly? No. Liars. Unscrupulous. Monsters.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Deaths are not due to opening up. Deaths are due to sick people being denied medicine, that have been in the hospital so long that they have no options left. Deaths in June are due to people that were turned away in April.

These future deaths are not impacted by whether we go to work or not.

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Belleoffreedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

Our President asked us to, in the face of a serious threat from an infectious disease.

Now we have equipment, hospital space, testing, and "unproven," but effective treatment. We won something important using the shutdown, and now it's time to open up.

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awesomepossumcausem [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Captured the fed? What do you mean?

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is not known if the Fed captured the US Treasury, or vice versa. I'm not sure it's a done deal. The former separation between the two has ceased. Basically capitalism is no more. The Fed is buying corporate bonds. The rules (or laws) forbid this. They are buying corporate bonds with no limits.

Essentially our private sector is being nationalized.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yup, that's one article of many that speaks to the issue. It's complex.

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filthyprotozoa 0 points ago +1 / -1

We are all aware of this. We all pay taxes in to the US Court System via the Penal Code.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is entirely incorrect. Federal taxes never touch our government. It all goes straight to the Fed. And yet our refunds come from the US Treasury! Pretty neat trick they have there.

Now if you're referring to local and State taxes, in some cases those might support local and State Courts. But that has nothing to do with either the Fed or our US Treasury.

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