That person is still on the voter roll with or without mail-ins. Without voter ID, you can vote in person as yourself, go back in an hour wearing a hat and say you're this guy who moved, and voila.
"Oh hello there, it looks like you accidentally got mailed a ballot that is for somebody else, I'm from the DNC Ballot Disposal Commission and I will take care of that for you!"
Now imagine you have a giant list of fake people on the rolls and you just have thousands of ballots delivered to a few fake addresses. Then you can just "find" them when your candidate is loosing.
I got major downvoted once for coming up with a list of ways to "counter-cheat." I can only guess at how many tricks there are. But American history is overloaded with cases where we all get screwed for playing by the rules with the Enemy of America does not.
These pukes literally force me to write R or D on the envelope, then sort them, then lose some, then find some at the last minute (Washington state). These pukes go out and gather ballots around neighborhoods that don't vote and fill them out for the citizens. These pukes let rapists out of jail and then ask them to vote their conscience.
This is what I couldn't believe in my primary. I put the fucking thing in a secrecy envelope but on the outside of the envelope I say what party I voted for. Clearly Trump in this case. So the mailman can take it home and burn it if they want. Makes it real easy for them to know which ballots to misplace.
Hey good advice. Apparently your county auditor has that info. I'm in a fraud riddled blue state and wouldn't you know it, the website for checking on that is not working.
Here in Oregon, the Democrats that validate the ballot signatures give extra scrutiny to registered Republican ballots and frequently reject them. I know several Republicans that have had this happen.
This may be a dumb question, but can you just put on the secrecy envelope that you voted Democrat when the actual ballot shows you voted Republican? Or is it already printed on the envelope when you receive it?
No they make it clear it needs to match the insides or it won't count. It's printed on the outside of the envelope that you send it back in and you have to check a box. Postman knows immediately that I voted for Trump.
This is unfortunately true. Democrats have no morals and they have subverted most institutions, especially in blue states. The Democrats will give a wink and a nod to another Democrat committing fraud, but they will immediately report a Republican, who will then be maliciously prosecuted by another Democrat and sentenced to the maximum term by yet another Democrat.
For example, here in Oregon, Democrat activists have full access to schools to promote their Democrat propaganda and register high school seniors to vote. A Republican group would be blocked at every turn by the Democrat administrators and teachers. The Democrat activists here also have full access to nursing homes and group homes here, where they go every year when the ballots are mailed to "help" the residents fill out and return them. Our Republican group here in my town tried a few years ago to go to a group home to do the same and they were denied access by the Democrats running the home.
What I'm saying is, until voter rolls are cleaned up and/or voter ID is implemented, the polling system is going to be rife with just as much fraud as the mail-in one.
As much as i hate to advocate for crime, i kinda agree. "Elections have consequences" as they say and we're at huge disadvantage when we can only vote R for life, but they vote D forever, and so might you after you die.
We can slowly push things back towards freedom with a conservative win.
Or.
If they win through mass voter fraud (it would have to be substantial for them to actually win) then I foresee the 'watering of the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots' that we are so desperately over due for.
I'd actually prefer the second option if it plays out to the end.
Don't go to their level. We need the righteous on our side.
You clearly don't know democrats. They'll advocate for laws that make it easier for them to cheat so they can beat your cheating. And Republicans cheating will probably actually get prosecuted.
You'd be doing it just to make sure you voted properly. ;) What would it take for the mail in ballot checkers to cross reference votes? Could you check?
Here in Oregon they validate your ballot signature against your voter registration, so they know if you are a registered Republican and they can give your signature some extra scrutiny. Likewise, if they see that the ballot belongs to a registered Democrat, they can accept it even if the signature doesn't match at all. This is how a lot of fraud happens here.
It's even worse, all I would have to do is fill out the ballot, sign it, and mail it in. CA already has vote by mail and I get this other persons ballot every election.
Oregon has had vote by mail exclusively for decades now, which is why we are under nearly total Democrat control despite having only a few blue counties.
Most blue states only have a few blue counties. I mean, have you seen the Trump election county map? Entire USA is basically red except a few coastal hell holes.
NY for God's sake is all red except light blue Erie, Monroe, and deep blue NYC counties.
I moved out of CA a little while back and went to TX. I wonder if I'll still get a ballot in the upcoming elections. I notified CA that I had changed my address and was no longer a resident so that the Franchise Tax Board and the greedy DMV wouldn't mistake me for still being a resident and chase me down for more money. But they'll still probably send me a ballot.
Yeah it's naive to think people aren't voting twice or three times or more if they are getting multiple ballots. And we never know because the votes aren't verified for legitimacy, they are simply counted, and they move on. Then the left claims it's not a big issue because only a small number commit fraud...yeah right only a small number were caught in a system where it's incredibly easy to cheat.
In fact if I recall, California claimed to have less voter fraud cases than Missouri, which has some voting protections. That's just mathematically impossible. California has like 10x the population. That alone should raise alarm bells that shit is iffy in California.
That person is still on the voter roll with or without mail-ins. Without voter ID, you can vote in person as yourself, go back in an hour wearing a hat and say you're this guy who moved, and voila.
Imagine how easier it would be if some partisan came and got it from you
"Oh hello there, it looks like you accidentally got mailed a ballot that is for somebody else, I'm from the
DNCBallot Disposal Commission and I will take care of that for you!"Hey - did you fill out your ballots? Here, let me do that for you and mail them in.
Now imagine you have a giant list of fake people on the rolls and you just have thousands of ballots delivered to a few fake addresses. Then you can just "find" them when your candidate is loosing.
Happened to someone I know last election, they got an entire box of ballots dropped at their doorstep..., oops wrong location, they destroyed them.
Imagine how easy it would be if the Democrat activists went to your nursing home or group home and "helped" you all fill out and return your ballots.
Yes, they do this every election here in Oregon.
Then threw away the ballot of everyone who is white and male.
Yeah, but the first way is no fun
I got major downvoted once for coming up with a list of ways to "counter-cheat." I can only guess at how many tricks there are. But American history is overloaded with cases where we all get screwed for playing by the rules with the Enemy of America does not.
These pukes literally force me to write R or D on the envelope, then sort them, then lose some, then find some at the last minute (Washington state). These pukes go out and gather ballots around neighborhoods that don't vote and fill them out for the citizens. These pukes let rapists out of jail and then ask them to vote their conscience.
This is what I couldn't believe in my primary. I put the fucking thing in a secrecy envelope but on the outside of the envelope I say what party I voted for. Clearly Trump in this case. So the mailman can take it home and burn it if they want. Makes it real easy for them to know which ballots to misplace.
Hey good advice. Apparently your county auditor has that info. I'm in a fraud riddled blue state and wouldn't you know it, the website for checking on that is not working.
And write a sternly worded letter about an election years ago?
Here in Oregon, the Democrats that validate the ballot signatures give extra scrutiny to registered Republican ballots and frequently reject them. I know several Republicans that have had this happen.
This may be a dumb question, but can you just put on the secrecy envelope that you voted Democrat when the actual ballot shows you voted Republican? Or is it already printed on the envelope when you receive it?
No they make it clear it needs to match the insides or it won't count. It's printed on the outside of the envelope that you send it back in and you have to check a box. Postman knows immediately that I voted for Trump.
No no, but rebelling is bad, that's only what leftist do. We need to sit in our homes and let the country be destroyed. plays violin
I'm not gonna lie, if I knew I could do this, I fucking would.
Any Democrat wouldn't think twice about it, why should we?
This 100%. We're fighting an asymmetric war.
Spoken like Victor Hanson
Not just that, if a republican wins and they find something like this happened they have re-elections. See NC 9th district.
This is unfortunately true. Democrats have no morals and they have subverted most institutions, especially in blue states. The Democrats will give a wink and a nod to another Democrat committing fraud, but they will immediately report a Republican, who will then be maliciously prosecuted by another Democrat and sentenced to the maximum term by yet another Democrat.
For example, here in Oregon, Democrat activists have full access to schools to promote their Democrat propaganda and register high school seniors to vote. A Republican group would be blocked at every turn by the Democrat administrators and teachers. The Democrat activists here also have full access to nursing homes and group homes here, where they go every year when the ballots are mailed to "help" the residents fill out and return them. Our Republican group here in my town tried a few years ago to go to a group home to do the same and they were denied access by the Democrats running the home.
I'm absolutely not saying do this.
What I'm saying is, until voter rolls are cleaned up and/or voter ID is implemented, the polling system is going to be rife with just as much fraud as the mail-in one.
As much as i hate to advocate for crime, i kinda agree. "Elections have consequences" as they say and we're at huge disadvantage when we can only vote R for life, but they vote D forever, and so might you after you die.
Elections do indeed have consequences.
Let them cheat.
We can slowly push things back towards freedom with a conservative win.
Or.
If they win through mass voter fraud (it would have to be substantial for them to actually win) then I foresee the 'watering of the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots' that we are so desperately over due for.
I'd actually prefer the second option if it plays out to the end.
Don't go to their level. We need the righteous on our side.
You clearly don't know democrats. They'll advocate for laws that make it easier for them to cheat so they can beat your cheating. And Republicans cheating will probably actually get prosecuted.
Elections need integrity. Don’t do that.
Most people don't even know what integrity is.
These written warnings stop voter fraud as well as “gun free zone” signs stop inner city shootings.
You'd be doing it just to make sure you voted properly. ;) What would it take for the mail in ballot checkers to cross reference votes? Could you check?
Here in Oregon they validate your ballot signature against your voter registration, so they know if you are a registered Republican and they can give your signature some extra scrutiny. Likewise, if they see that the ballot belongs to a registered Democrat, they can accept it even if the signature doesn't match at all. This is how a lot of fraud happens here.
It's even worse, all I would have to do is fill out the ballot, sign it, and mail it in. CA already has vote by mail and I get this other persons ballot every election.
Oregon has had vote by mail exclusively for decades now, which is why we are under nearly total Democrat control despite having only a few blue counties.
Most blue states only have a few blue counties. I mean, have you seen the Trump election county map? Entire USA is basically red except a few coastal hell holes.
NY for God's sake is all red except light blue Erie, Monroe, and deep blue NYC counties.
Call the registrar and let them know. They will remove it if you lean on them.
I moved out of CA a little while back and went to TX. I wonder if I'll still get a ballot in the upcoming elections. I notified CA that I had changed my address and was no longer a resident so that the Franchise Tax Board and the greedy DMV wouldn't mistake me for still being a resident and chase me down for more money. But they'll still probably send me a ballot.
Yeah it's naive to think people aren't voting twice or three times or more if they are getting multiple ballots. And we never know because the votes aren't verified for legitimacy, they are simply counted, and they move on. Then the left claims it's not a big issue because only a small number commit fraud...yeah right only a small number were caught in a system where it's incredibly easy to cheat.
In fact if I recall, California claimed to have less voter fraud cases than Missouri, which has some voting protections. That's just mathematically impossible. California has like 10x the population. That alone should raise alarm bells that shit is iffy in California.