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ShrikeDeCil 50 points ago +50 / -0

Counter-example "Experts say illegal to go outside!!!"

Wait. Doesn't ... sunlight-on-skin ... make Vitamin D?

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T-Bear 29 points ago +29 / -0

Yes, it does indeed. Staying indoors keeps one lower in Vitamin D than one would normally be getting sunshine.

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ShrikeDeCil 33 points ago +33 / -0

Pointing out that Democrat plans are causing the problem

Note: New York had Sixty percent of their cases from people that were staying home

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Pederrr 11 points ago +11 / -0

That was of the new cases.

https://covid19tracker.health.ny.gov/views/NYS-COVID19-Tracker/NYSDOHCOVID-19Tracker-Fatalities?%3Aembed=yes&%3Atoolbar=no&%3Atabs=n

You can tell by age of the fatalities and the comorbidity of those age groups that they were PROBABLY not getting much sunlight.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 6 points ago +6 / -0

That's an amazing piece of data. I've been saying this all along, that with all the new cases, the lockdown hasn't been working. Any explanations for how new cases come out of people who are basically quarantined?

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Choomguy 2 points ago +2 / -0

We just had a rash of cases at a nursing home two days ago. Seems odd that as cases go down in general population, that in a quarantined nursing home cases would go up. My guess is they are presuming covid, not testing it.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well if this is one where Cuomo is putting known infected people into a nursing home, that would certainly explain it. Or maybe other Governors are repeating his mistake on this, too?

"Presuming covid" rather than testing it: we have solid evidence that numbers are inflated all over the Country. And not just deaths but recoveries too. Which means i can't possibly take the total number of cases reported seriously, either. Even so, the general idea that a Dr treating someone knows if they're positive long before they die is true, and is more accurate than a test. So the general "problem" commented on here so often isn't a problem at all. Abuse is, and this situation is certainly ripe for abuse. Drs are supposed to be above abuse.

People working in a nursing home aren't usually Drs,and may not have any experience with CCPvirus. So their "presumed covid" is probably bs, even if they're not intentionally gaming the system.

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ShrikeDeCil 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because "Having the virus" isn't 100% "Expressing the disease".

The entire discussion of "asymptomatic this-or-that" is sorta "Twenty percent of the population(ish) is a ticking time-bomb. It can go off if their immune system has a bad day."

Healthy construction workers in the sun - normal vitamin levels - normal immune system, 20% infected -> no one even cares.

Nursing homes, quarantined, and not even getting their usual level of sun because staff overworked and no visitors! , well, lack of sunlight... lack of D ... crosses over tipping line ... boom.

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T-Bear 1 point ago +1 / -0

Our observations are 100% in line with their goal of doing their best to make this disease something it wasn't, and also to make the impact of the disease far greater than it should have been.

However, the Chinese flu has been in the US for much, much longer than previously thought. The Chinese, in their eagerness to take down Trump, had already been sending infected people here since early December, and by late December through late January, the first wave of the Chinese flu had already hit significant parts of the US.

I am becoming convinced all the lock-down stuff is a reaction to the second wave, and the Democrats wanted conditions for maximum spread, maximum fatalities, and maximum damage to the economy.

They failed on the first two; they will fail on the last one.

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Gobberwarts 0 points ago +1 / -1

Antarctica population 5,000 - zero coronavirus cases.

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Gobberwarts 0 points ago +1 / -1

Their family wasn't staying home..

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nachosamplerREBORN 1 point ago +1 / -0

Most people are deficient - some more than others - but absorption from sun is not sufficient unless you live in CA and spend hours outside with little clothing (from what a few doctors told me). Supplements are cheap and you can get enough D in most multi-vitamins. This is a very good observation from Scott - I believe there are tests that show levels of vitamin D - but accuracy may be questionable. An easier method would be to simply ask those diagnosed if they take D supplements and compare it to records of patients who do, who do not have COVID-19. If there’s a strong connection, it may be worth exploring further especially when combined with the very good observations made.

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Work2gethrBiglyOrDie 9 points ago +9 / -0

I've heard that people living above Atlanta Georgia can't get enough D from the sun 6 months out of the year. Doctors used to take 2,000 IU to avoid sickness, but now some recommend 4k to 8+, who knows.

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pray4peace4 10 points ago +11 / -1

People living in an Atlanta latitude can get enough sunshine to provide enough Vitamin D for the whole year by wearing shorts & a t-shirt & being in sunshine for 20 minutes 3 times a week, starting in March & ending in October. The human body can store the right kind of Vitamin D in the liver & fat cells to last from November through February. 20 minutes in the sun makes 20,000 units of Vitamin D.

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kuningus 12 points ago +12 / -0

My job has me in dark ballrooms, so I step outside and get 15 - 20 minutes of sun whenever I can. This whole situation now has me outside for hours, taking walks, running, sitting on my patio. I'm healthier than I've been in years.

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slrpnls 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah same here outside of allergies and one minor sunburn on my head. >_<

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Red-Shackle 12 points ago +12 / -0

Redheads can produce vitamin D even in low light conditions. Redhead superpowers

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Sublimeldg311 8 points ago +8 / -0

Ginger sorcery, I say. Red Magic. 😂

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ShrikeDeCil 10 points ago +10 / -0

Seattle has long long had a laundry list of "unexplained" statistical anomalies for everything under the sun. "We're more educated, therefore we must be more clean, so I just don't grok!"

Particularly bad in the: You guessed it - no-sun-season.

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Final212 4 points ago +4 / -0

Interesting thought. Washington was the first state hit.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 8 points ago +8 / -0

Skin turns sunlight into vitamin D less as we age. D and magnesium are two major deficiencies in the US

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ORD_to_SFO 3 points ago +3 / -0

Where does a person get magnesium? Please say guacamole!!

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Guacamole! Now, in terms of getting mag - supplement is the most feasible way. When you read about what foods contain it look at how much you need to eat vs how much you get; there's not much of a practical way to go about it. This is also yet another instance where FDA mrda is bs. We have 4 electrolytes that need to be in balance: mag, sodium, calcium and potassium. In an area with high calcium in the water most people tend to be constipated simply because you don't have enough magnesium to balance the amount of calcium. Your needs actually change.

Magnesium citrate is most often used for constipation, and it's cheap. Magnesium oxide tends to be more expensive. I don't know if it's in any way "better," but it's usually used for magnesium deficiency. Unfortunately magnesium is usually sold in combination with calcium, which defeats the purpose for lots of people. It would make more sense to combine it with potassium, since no American has a salt deficiency but if we're taking magnesium to keep up with excessive calcium intake we probably need at least a little more potassium too.

If we don't have enough magnesium muscles will be sore and recovery will be poor. I wish I knew that when I was young. Staying healthy through this lockdown bs deserves some attention! I think that not only will the cure prove to be worse than the disease, but lots of other health problems will emerge due to disruption of health related activity we always took for granted.

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ORD_to_SFO 2 points ago +2 / -0

First, thank you for saying guacamole, haha

Second, wow, that was very informative! I feel like I should be paying for that kind of catered information. I will look into getting some magnesium citrate supplements (or oxide, if I can find it). I want to be as healthy as possible when it's time to vote Dr. VSG Trump back into office!!

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're very welcome! I know when I work hard and long hours, it's amazing how much magnesium I can take and only benefit from it. Work like that would usually have started picking up a few weeks ago. Hopefully that will happen again, someday.

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Work2gethrBiglyOrDie 2 points ago +2 / -0

And some old people need sublingual D because of low gut absorption. Magnesium does over 300 things in the body, 80+% are deficient. Mag oxide is crap but folks can read about the many other types.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mag oxide is no good? It's more expensive than citrate. What's the best kind for general nutrition?

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Work2gethrBiglyOrDie 1 point ago +1 / -0

M o has low absorption. Idk which is best, they say each type of magnesium has different additional benefits, and some might be more likely to cause loose stools.

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nrjk 1 point ago +2 / -1

Stay in the dark, goy. Literally and metaphorically.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sun screen blocks the bodies ability to mae vitamin D. Lack of vitamin D allows cancer to survive easier.

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YDS2016 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes it does. But this also depends on skin color. Darker skinned people produce vitamin D slower than light skinned people. Dr. John Campbell (and others) have been pointing this out loudly.

The media seems obsessed with poverty / healthcare inequalities causing the higher infection and death rates among minorities, yet there is a fairly obvious biological reason this may be happening. Vitamin D is vital to a healthy immune system.

Take a normal dosage vitamin D supplement. It can't hurt.

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whocaresguy420 23 points ago +23 / -0

my IBS/ colitis went away when i started taking vitamin D along with probiotics. mental health got better too

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DrGEOTUS 6 points ago +6 / -0

D deficiency is common in Crohn's, Colitis, and IBS patients. It's generally attributed by doctors as caused by lack of nutrient absorption due to inflammation. This doesn't add up based on the fact that very few foods contain enough D in normal portion sizes to make eating them as a source worthwhile. Even the highest D foods still only contain enough for small children.

Many patients of these diseases see rapid and prolonged improvement once daily D supplements are added. D deficiency seems to be a factor rather than a symptom of these digestive disorders.

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thewordwolf 5 points ago +5 / -0

This.

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FuckuSpez 2 points ago +2 / -0

Now, we can’t just waste time doing trials on something you can’t patent. Don’t ya know.

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ShrikeDeCil 10 points ago +10 / -0

Vitamin's A and C also factors - no reason to let them be 'low' at least.

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nothingberg 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good advice. Add selenium, coQ10, NAC, R-lipoic acid, zinc with egcg and quercetin, beef and chicken. You'll make yourself very immuno powerful

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NeilNewsNetwork 4 points ago +4 / -0

What about "Super Male Virtility"?

How much of that should i take?

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FitOfficial 3 points ago +3 / -0

Enough to eat your neighbors' asses raw

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killerbeblue 2 points ago +2 / -0

“I’m gonna EAT your ass.... and I’m coming”

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ShrikeDeCil 1 point ago +1 / -0

After reading your comments throughout, I have a request:

Could I see what a "Nothingberg's RDA" would be like? I've heard from several different directions that the USRDA is somewhat of a "Minimum to avoid Scurvy" sort of list, as opposed to "These are the actual concrete values".

Ooh, and a second question: What's the second problem of a highly restricted diet? Vitamin C deficiency kicks off scruvy ... but what's next ? (Mentally building up 'Survival Food' from "First you need calories, then you need C, then...")

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Pederrr 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's actually true that vitamin D deficiency can cause you to be more susceptible to respiratory issues.

I'm Vitamin D deficient (didn't learn until I was on a submarine, a few weeks under water and I was beyond miserable) and supplement it. It really makes a difference. I generally will supplement it nearly every day during winter and during times of a lot of indoors or bad weather.

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nothingberg 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's good to eliminate ANY vitamin and mineral deficiencies. Mineral deficiencies are the first thing to correct.

This article lists 7 nutrient deficiencies that are incredibly common. Iron deficiency. Iron is an essential mineral. ... Iodine deficiency. ... Vitamin D deficiency. ... Vitamin B12 deficiency. ... Calcium deficiency. ... Vitamin A deficiency. ... Magnesium deficiency.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-common-nutrient-deficiencies

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Pederrr 7 points ago +7 / -0

Exactly.. It turns out that whole "Get exercise, drink plenty of water, and eat a well balanced diet" is great advice for a reason.

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williammcfadden 6 points ago +6 / -0

I take 10,000mg every few days. Very relaxing and body aches are gone.

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FuckuSpez 2 points ago +2 / -0

You’re missing some kind of cofactors. Other vitamins and/or solubility or uptake problems. Many vitamins need to be take with some kind of fat to be assimilated.

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Suristin 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's quite a dose. Do you take d2 or d3? Apparently D3 is superior.

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NeilNewsNetwork 5 points ago +5 / -0

except, vitamin D through vitamin pills and supplements is exactly the same (to a human body) as vitamin D absorbed through the skin via sunlight

Sunlight is still a good disinfectant, and good to be in, but its hardly the only or primary source of vitamin D.

But with vitamin D being in many things (especially most dairy) vitamin D deficiency is not that rare.

Scott doesnt seem to understand that sunlight is only one (of many) ways to get vitamin D.

So, sure... chinese corona virus could be related to vitamin D, but its basically a wild guess, when you look at the truth.

Plus... Scott is OK, and i listen to his YouTube video most days, but the way he worships and endlessly praises Bill Gates is getting to be a bit much, and the way he is in favor of ever growing government control over almost every areas of our lives (not just covid9, but his pro- gun control ideas, and many other ways too) is tiresome. Yes, I can be entertained by the dude, at times... but i can not take Scott seriously anymore.

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MichaelHall1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Vitamin D from sunlight reduces the risk of cancer. Vitamin D from supplements does not. Scientists do not understand why.

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NeilNewsNetwork 1 point ago +1 / -0

oh, i live in southern california, so no freedom...

but at least i get a mix of sun and also vitamin d3 pills

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pray4peace4 5 points ago +6 / -1

Every cell, every enzyme system in the human body, is regulated by Vitamin D. Every organ system is affected by Vitamin D levels. Get your sunshine, folks.

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Pederrr 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm deficient and supplement during winter and bad weather/long times in doors. It is awesome for a lot of issues but the natural way is MUCH better and more effective

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nothingberg -3 points ago +2 / -5

Easier and more reliable just to take D3 pill. Sunshine washes off in showers

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nothingberg 1 point ago +1 / -0

wow -3 downvotes

Ok, you three downvoters, go into the sunshine and then wash your vitamin D off and then develop a deficiency, see if I care. I just said this to try to help you. Don't take my knowledge as advice at your own peril. Or you could play it safe and take a D pill. If you don't know how this sun on the skin thing works, how you produce d on the surface of your skin and reabsorb it (IF YOU DONT SHOWER) then it's your fault now, isn't it. Not mine.

Good luck. Btw, just reminding you to downvote this comment also, because your'e ignorant and butthurt dicks. Have a blessed day!

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keepwinning 4 points ago +4 / -0

muh double blind follow the science...

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johnbillaby 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think Italy gets a lot of sun.

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Gilliais 2 points ago +2 / -0

But do the people living there get out in it? The old people that were dying?

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NeilNewsNetwork 1 point ago +1 / -0

good point

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Omarcommin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not as much in the north, in February.

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ShrikeDeCil 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's muttering for several directions that the disease itself is somewhat racist. (Like sickle-cell anemia and a few others).

Preferentially attacks the Han (Chinese). Which ... is weird.

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Warskullx 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is pretty much no risk to getting some extra vitamin D.

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tomthung 2 points ago +2 / -0

People living in the north have problems with vitamin D because of the short days. Tesla developed a light to combat this problem way back when.

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slrpnls 2 points ago +2 / -0

I take 2000iu of Vitamin D daily and more in the winter. I also go outside and play with my daughter in the fresh air whenever weather permits. I drink Vitamin D enriched milk so I believe my Vitamin D levels should be good.

Vitamin D deficiencies are tied to people with Seasonal Affective Disorder and depression.

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majorpribluda 2 points ago +2 / -0

Given recent news, I searched this site for "vitamin D", and was surprised to find this post from FOUR MONTHS AGO.

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whiskey_shitz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting...

That would explain the obsession with keeping people in their homes even when there is more than enough room for social distancing at parks and beaches.

If this is right the deep state sucks. That was never going to work. Summer coming right up.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago +2 / -1

N There is a component of vaccinations that harm your bodies ability to make vitamin D hormone. Vitamin D does hundreds of things in your body. Just a fun fact. My wife a VA medical lab worker says that every vet they run has this problem. Well what do they give you when you join the military? Vaccinations.

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stonepony -4 points ago +2 / -6

No Scott. The vitamin D deficiency is incidental.

The sun kills the virus. UV light, like Trump said. People who avoid the sun, receive less vitamin D from the sun. It's not the vitamin D that kills the virus.

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williammcfadden 5 points ago +5 / -0

You're actually confusing UV that kills the virus on surfaces, but this is about the body health benefits of Vitamin D against infections and improved lung function.

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nothingberg 4 points ago +4 / -0

Stonepony is very confused about a lot of things apparently.

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nothingberg 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sometimes, people on the internet are quick to spout their ignorant opinions, and demonstrate a pathological uncuriousity when confronted with dissent

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stonepony -3 points ago +1 / -4

No, I'm not. The virus cannot survive sunlight. If you're out in the sun, the UV from the sun kills the virus. You get vitamin D from sunlight. It's a bogus correlation.

If you were caked with a cyanide paste all over your skin, and I washed you off with a garden hose, it wouldn't be accurate to suggest that water from a garden hose is the antidote to cyanide poisoning.

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BecauseYoudBeInJail 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you have no vitamin D, your immune system is shit. It's possible that there IS correlation between D levels and fighting off the infection. UV light can also help by killing the virus on your skin or in your capillaries, so I think you and Scott both raise valid points about getting out in the sun.

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nothingberg 3 points ago +3 / -0

There are several articles about vitamin D deficiency being correlated with severe cases of COVID19. How about read some news before you just spout your opinion?

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stonepony 2 points ago +3 / -1

You get vitamin D by going out in to the sun. Most people are vitamin D deficient today, because we're basically an underground species now. Diabetes is becoming more common because of it.

I don't doubt that it's a factor. And the far more significant factor is that Covid can't survive in sunlight.

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Work2gethrBiglyOrDie 4 points ago +4 / -0

https://www.nhs.uk/news/lifestyle-and-exercise/vitamin-d-immune-system-boost/

But remember only a $1,000 a pill big pharma drug is allowed to help.

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NeilNewsNetwork 3 points ago +3 / -0

Medical question:

I was with my lady friend last night, and i was wondering...

Is the three minutes of "vitamin D" I gave her enough to protect her from coronavirus?

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Pederrr 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't know if that is what he was implying. More that the folks who are not getting that vitamin D are not in conditions to have it naturally sterilized are are deficient putting them at higher risk of respiratory and viral infections

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Gobberwarts -4 points ago +2 / -6

Causation vs Correlation

Can vitamin D cure "old"?

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Pederrr 6 points ago +6 / -0

no, but the old (like those dying) are not in good enough shape to get much sunlight. Vitamin D deficiency is like a multiplier to the old.