The folly isn't that we built more hospitals than we needed. The folly is that we can't resume normal life after dismantling the hospitals we never needed.
I personally know one person who got it and passed away, but my understanding is that it was complications that killed him not necessarily the actual virus. He was not in good health prior to, very unfortunate. That said, I agree with you in that the numbers are way, way overblown. To a ridiculous degree.
There is some truth to that but you can't stay locked down forever. Herd immunity will occur and needs to. The lockdowns were at best misguided and at worst a malicious conspiracy.
The problem is, if we reopen and things will get really bad, then their logic dictates that we have to stay closed forever, or for 18 months or whatever, to prevent all of these deaths.
But that would destroy the country, so practicality would dictate that we open up regardless, take some precautions, and let 1-3% of the population, mostly elderly, die, so that the rest of the population lives. This is the same reason the elderly used to hop on an ice floe. Except at that time they were willing to sacrifice themselves for the good of their tribe. Nothing's stopping people from staying home and isolating themselves if they want to be extra cautious.
Or that the English uses to consider a nationwide tax to be only used for emergencies, and that the King would call a parliament to meet and decide it.
The five-day weather forecast is often inaccurate.
Heck, I have seen hourly forecasts be wrong! Like when it's partly cloudy outside and the forecast literally calls for rain in the next hour which never comes. Even saw the current conditions read "rain" when it was sunny. Puzzled, I looked at the radar and saw a tiny little green dot like five miles away.
The woman that did a review of the code got it right, nobody outside of the insurance industry should be doing modeling because when their money is not on the line, they have no clue what's right or wrong.
Exactly this. "Killer Virus" is the new Climate Change. Even better, the Virus is caused by Climate Change because we did nothing about it, and the effects are immediate! No ten year long wait!
This is what happens when we make decisions based on “models” with “assumed data”, rather than seeing what’s actually happening.
Exhibit A: Georgia. Reopened a while ago (bigly reopening, too). No surge in cases. But based on models it would have been an apocalyptic wasteland by now.
The Govt know all this...remember they can get things precise enough to send rockets to Saturn...they don't just launch a bunch, willy nilly, with the hope or 'probability expectation,' that one will make it.
So this 'pandemic' should be one of the easiest to monitor and measure--except they didn't; they deliberately created all the 'chaos', drama, fear and mock up images. All deliberate. Normally you'd call in the Government experts to sort out the mess..but hang on they ARE 'The Government'. So what can you do?
I don't know BUT one thing's for sure...the 'logic' suggests you DON'T do what they're telling you to do while they're foisting this scam...Jews have tried 'co-operating' in the early days with this sort of bullshit expecting "things will pass"...went very well,
Honestly, so many people in government rely on data only instead of going out and seeing what's going on. And if you use your intuition instead of the data, you open yourself up to criticism if you guess wrong one time out of ten, even though the people using models might be wrong nine times out of ten.
This situation was exacerbated because of the incubation time making it so that things could seem fine even if they weren't. China lied, but Italy and Spain looked like they reaffirmed how serious the virus was/is.
It's still dangerous, but outside of urban centers it seems like taking common sense precautions is enough.
Microsoft spent a month fixing the source code and released that version. John Carmack helped with that and said the code wasn't fundamentally bad (but no comment on the equations used). I've seen other sources say there's tons of issues with the code even after a month of bugfixes.
In mid March, the virus was on track to peak "in July or August," as Fauci was saying then. Hey, there's still time! I guess we should just keep everything shut down for at least 4 more months! I can't even imagine what college students must be going through, just being completely robbed of having so many of the happiest and most exciting experiences of their lives. Now their college "experience" literally consists of being at home with their parents, watching online lectures, and not getting to hanging out with anyone or go anywhere, aside from picking up food from a drive-through window.
I'm stealing that because it's so true. So where are these experts, anyway?
"Oh, well, they prefer to remain anonymous! They're...uhh, too busy for interviews right now. Never bother a scientist while they're at work! Someone will reach out to them and maybe get back to you."
Exactly. The "anonymous sources" were non-existent political players, but everyone can see how that has been failing; and so we have the "experts" who are non-existent medical professionals.
Fauci is a con artist doctor on Bill Gates’ payroll.
He sound like he’s smoked 2 packs of kool mild menthols everyday for his entire career and the fact that trump has him up in his corner makes me question what the fuck is going on more than anything.
This is fantastic. Means not a single hospital in the area was overwhelmed and the TRUMP ADMINISTRATION responded by providing THOUSANDS of extra beds just in case.
Can we now stop pretending we will all die from the flu if we get back to work please?
No, because impeachment failed and the best game plan we have now to get back into power is to crash the economy on Trump right before the election. Oops, I guess I need to go back to shariablue.
Hotspots were totally swamped. I have never said different.
But McCleegan Hospital in Backwater Town Iowa had no fucking reason to suspend all other care besides COVID.
He gave Cuomo and Newsom what they NEEDED. What Cuomo asked was fucking ludicrous. Hundred thousand vents on the Federal dime. Mother fucker built a goddamn quilt out of facemasks people shipped to New York.
Exactly! They should keep them all open as we lift lockdowns. Test the waters while keeping emergency measures in place. Only after lifting the lockdowns completely do you tear down the reserve units.
In Cuomo's case they also serve as a launch platform for his 2024 campaign. He's doing daily press conferences, taking a page out of Trump's book, and practically wears a superhero cape
The guy is so dreadfully negative about everything, and loves to say every fuckin sentence twice in a row, saying it slower the second time and hitting his fingertips on the table. He's a very shitty actor.
The negativity is to scare everyone. He wants you home as long as possible, glued to your television, watching HIM. Plus, every week that goes by with New York's economy shut down is another shit-ton of poor budgeting and outright theft he can cover for, laundering his own inadequacies with the blanket excuse of "COVID" (which in his eyes will good for months and years.)
The repeating himself is because he IS slow. When you can't think of on your feet, all you can do is repeat.
So going back to the beginning, the CDC / Scientist were right to freak out. We were told that we have a SARS like virus with an infection coefficient >4 and with a 2 week asymptomatic but infectious period. That is terrifying, like perfect storm scenario. Whether you trusted the data out of China or not, it looked very dire. Hell, Boris Johnson said that China was likely under reporting by 18-40 fold. That is such a weird range, it looks like a confidence interval.
But now that we have more information no one is willing to step back and say "Ya we probably could have done that better, but better safe than sorry." They would get slaughtered politically, so now it is this bull shit ok "we are survivors" now we got to slowly rebuild and be super duper extra safe.
Millions of people have become overnight germaphobes. You could probably scare them even more by telling them how bacteria is becoming more resistant to most anti-bacterial soaps (and I'm wondering how much of that is just fearmongering now).
Then there's people who live with the elderly who are afraid of getting their elders sick. Hasn't this always been a risk with influenza though? Is everyone under 50 supposed to change their entire lifestyle so that people who live to be 80 can live to be 81?
If it behaved like a SARs (10%) or MERs (30%) with respect to mortality than ya everyone under 50 should have stayed locked in place. If it had those kinds of mortality you would see 1 out of every 30 40-year olds dying. That was the initial fear. But its utterly stupid to have shut down everything without first stopping all air travel, bus travel, and public transportation.
No, but this seems extra deadly to the elderly. People already stayed away from their elderly relatives if they got sick, they would've just been more cautious with this until it blew over.
If you were the CFO of a company and reported numbers that were 90% wrong to the board, you'd be 1) incompetent or 2) have an agenda and trying to manipulate things. Either way, you'd have to go!
So, what we learn is there's a bunch of bean pushers who throw darts at a board and record it as 'science'.
Its time for reform of standards and practices across the board. As well maybe make it a big thing to not tell the Media the high numbers. Then punish those who leak the bogus numbers.
Dude, we can't punish anyone regardless of evidence, whether they married their brother, committed obvious treason, etc... What makes you think we can punish leakers who make midnight phone calls from anonymous sources?
Then as people have been stating, its probably time to redo the system.
I hate the reason most feckless Republicans give, "if we enforce the law on them, they will enforce it on us."
Well here's the double standard, they will always use the law to punish Republicans, free thinkers and those who run against the grain. They want power and absolute power to say the least. Republicans in congress need to grow a spine and start going after these people, even if it means hitting some of your own whom have laid in the bed of snakes.
If you tell the media there is a one in a million chance that an asteroid will hit the earth and wipe out humanity, they will write "science confirms probable asteroid strike to wipeout life as we know it."
You misspelled! Should be *[fried], as in "electric chair"! That's what happens to serial, mass-murdering war criminals. His murdering career began decades ago with HIV and he has left millions of deaths in the wake of his killing spree since then. Why he is still allowed to continue on is beyond me.
McCormick Place in Chicago which mayor Beetlejuice and governor Lard Ass insisted was important treated a total of 13 patients. Several nurses received a guaranteed eight week contract that totaled over $104,000 dollars. This was confirmed by 560's The Answer Amy Jacobson because a friend of her's daughter was a nurse there.
Lard Ass reduced the number from 3,000 beds to 1,000 but he and Beetlejuice are illegally extending the lockdown and have implemented and impossible 5-Phase Reopening BS.
I would have rather built them and used them, then not and need them.
We should take it as a lesson as to not overreact and overly depend on the ezpert models. Idk. Hard to say. China looked like hell on earth from what we saw and if we had a sliver of that i would perfer having the feild hospitals.
I can forgive the models being off. We didn't know what was going to happen. We now know the facts and it's time to act upon them. Wish Trump would dismiss the "experts" and use his own good sense. Fortunately this turned out to be no worse than a cold/flu virus, but just as contagious. Cold/flu kills tens of thousands of people and we move on. Same here.
The end game is forced vaccinations with certain key people getting mega rich off the patents for the cure.....of course it doesn't seem to go well when this finally happens...maybe this is what the book of Revelation was talking about...The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image......
Investigate all this. If they committed fraud prosecute and open up the country. KAG means purging the looters and liars and scum that have been lying to this country.
Glad we listened to science and forced everyone to go out of business.
To be fair, I thought this was a big deal back and January and prepared and was cautious because I live around the elderly. But I also didn't shut down an entire state and arrest people for taking risks with their health that we've always taken.
Fuck the Gateway Pundit ! Their articles read like they were written by five-year-olds. It's just clickbait crap with gross medical advertisements.
They blame President Trump for the "shutdown". Because supposedly Trump is just a dupe under the spell of Dr. Fauci - so say the toddlers at Gateway Pundit.
In fact, the "shutdown" was a state-by-state shutdown done by the governors.
Gateway Pundit is painting a false image of our POTUS.
The folly isn't that we built more hospitals than we needed. The folly is that we can't resume normal life after dismantling the hospitals we never needed.
Shut everything down so we can get prepared for an influx of patients
Ok we're prepared now... Oh we don't have an influx of patients... Ok let's tear down all our preparations.
BTW, everything has to stay shutdown so we don't get an influx of patients.
"YoU dOnT gEt It.....ThAtS WhY tHe HoSpItAlS aRe EmPtY!!"
im about 100% sure this is scripted AI for bots because this is their rebuttal every time.
But i swore i heard 60% of new yorkers got it while on lockdown
I personally know one person who got it and passed away, but my understanding is that it was complications that killed him not necessarily the actual virus. He was not in good health prior to, very unfortunate. That said, I agree with you in that the numbers are way, way overblown. To a ridiculous degree.
Not “something” is not right, EVERYTHING is not right.
You're contagious with a nothingburger as far as the vast majority of the population goes. Only idiots and pussies see that as a real problem.
Despite all my rage, I'm still just a rat in a cage....
Despite all of his rage he is still just Nicolas Cage.
http://m.quickmeme.com/meme/3ozspe
There is some truth to that but you can't stay locked down forever. Herd immunity will occur and needs to. The lockdowns were at best misguided and at worst a malicious conspiracy.
The problem is, if we reopen and things will get really bad, then their logic dictates that we have to stay closed forever, or for 18 months or whatever, to prevent all of these deaths.
But that would destroy the country, so practicality would dictate that we open up regardless, take some precautions, and let 1-3% of the population, mostly elderly, die, so that the rest of the population lives. This is the same reason the elderly used to hop on an ice floe. Except at that time they were willing to sacrifice themselves for the good of their tribe. Nothing's stopping people from staying home and isolating themselves if they want to be extra cautious.
That's the thing about government...it's designed to grow, not roll things back.
I'm still reeling from having learned the income tax was supposed to be temporary to raise money for war.
One of the first red pills.
Or that the English uses to consider a nationwide tax to be only used for emergencies, and that the King would call a parliament to meet and decide it.
So the virus models are as accurate as climate models, got it.
The really funny (or sad, as you like) part is that virus models are hella simpler than climate models.
Thankfully we don't shut the country down because of crappy climate models ... yet.
don't give them ideas......oh wait
Well technically they shut tons of sh*t down because of it.
There'll probably be a few hurricanes this year; better start sheltering in place...NOW.
The five-day weather forecast is often inaccurate.
Heck, I have seen hourly forecasts be wrong! Like when it's partly cloudy outside and the forecast literally calls for rain in the next hour which never comes. Even saw the current conditions read "rain" when it was sunny. Puzzled, I looked at the radar and saw a tiny little green dot like five miles away.
Lmao
BINGO!
The woman that did a review of the code got it right, nobody outside of the insurance industry should be doing modeling because when their money is not on the line, they have no clue what's right or wrong.
The same guy made em both and yet he'll still be allowed to bullshit the government going forward. How he hasn't been sued for fraud is beyond me.
Exactly this. "Killer Virus" is the new Climate Change. Even better, the Virus is caused by Climate Change because we did nothing about it, and the effects are immediate! No ten year long wait!
This is what happens when we make decisions based on “models” with “assumed data”, rather than seeing what’s actually happening.
Exhibit A: Georgia. Reopened a while ago (bigly reopening, too). No surge in cases. But based on models it would have been an apocalyptic wasteland by now.
Models are Grabage in, Garbage out.
Furthest thing from science that you can get.
But the public scrool system has so dumbed down the average pleb that normies think that models (of anything) are science and are set in stone.
Leftists have played the long game ... and may pay off.
The Govt know all this...remember they can get things precise enough to send rockets to Saturn...they don't just launch a bunch, willy nilly, with the hope or 'probability expectation,' that one will make it.
So this 'pandemic' should be one of the easiest to monitor and measure--except they didn't; they deliberately created all the 'chaos', drama, fear and mock up images. All deliberate. Normally you'd call in the Government experts to sort out the mess..but hang on they ARE 'The Government'. So what can you do?
I don't know BUT one thing's for sure...the 'logic' suggests you DON'T do what they're telling you to do while they're foisting this scam...Jews have tried 'co-operating' in the early days with this sort of bullshit expecting "things will pass"...went very well,
Honestly, so many people in government rely on data only instead of going out and seeing what's going on. And if you use your intuition instead of the data, you open yourself up to criticism if you guess wrong one time out of ten, even though the people using models might be wrong nine times out of ten.
This situation was exacerbated because of the incubation time making it so that things could seem fine even if they weren't. China lied, but Italy and Spain looked like they reaffirmed how serious the virus was/is.
It's still dangerous, but outside of urban centers it seems like taking common sense precautions is enough.
Microsoft spent a month fixing the source code and released that version. John Carmack helped with that and said the code wasn't fundamentally bad (but no comment on the equations used). I've seen other sources say there's tons of issues with the code even after a month of bugfixes.
In mid March, the virus was on track to peak "in July or August," as Fauci was saying then. Hey, there's still time! I guess we should just keep everything shut down for at least 4 more months! I can't even imagine what college students must be going through, just being completely robbed of having so many of the happiest and most exciting experiences of their lives. Now their college "experience" literally consists of being at home with their parents, watching online lectures, and not getting to hanging out with anyone or go anywhere, aside from picking up food from a drive-through window.
"Experts" are the new "anonymous sources". Just another weasel phrase intended to provide false credibility without accountability.
It's all so tiresome.
I'm stealing that because it's so true. So where are these experts, anyway?
"Oh, well, they prefer to remain anonymous! They're...uhh, too busy for interviews right now. Never bother a scientist while they're at work! Someone will reach out to them and maybe get back to you."
Exactly. The "anonymous sources" were non-existent political players, but everyone can see how that has been failing; and so we have the "experts" who are non-existent medical professionals.
Fauci is a con artist doctor on Bill Gates’ payroll.
He sound like he’s smoked 2 packs of kool mild menthols everyday for his entire career and the fact that trump has him up in his corner makes me question what the fuck is going on more than anything.
It’ll come out about Fauci.
Trump is surrounded by deep state hacks left and right
Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed about him too--he sounds like a guy who's been a heavy smoker for 40 years.
This is fantastic. Means not a single hospital in the area was overwhelmed and the TRUMP ADMINISTRATION responded by providing THOUSANDS of extra beds just in case.
Can we now stop pretending we will all die from the flu if we get back to work please?
No, because impeachment failed and the best game plan we have now to get back into power is to crash the economy on Trump right before the election. Oops, I guess I need to go back to shariablue.
To be accurate - there were some hospitals in my neighborhood and a few other neighborhoods ( in Brooklyn ) which were overwhelmed.
I happen to live in Queens, NY which is the epicenter of the epicenter. But the overcrowding did disappear after a few weeks.
And it is true that the rest of the country did not experience overcrowding - and also that Trump gave Cuomo ( and Newsom ) everything they asked for.
Hotspots were totally swamped. I have never said different.
But McCleegan Hospital in Backwater Town Iowa had no fucking reason to suspend all other care besides COVID.
He gave Cuomo and Newsom what they NEEDED. What Cuomo asked was fucking ludicrous. Hundred thousand vents on the Federal dime. Mother fucker built a goddamn quilt out of facemasks people shipped to New York.
Hospitals closed down.
Still can't go back to work.
If they were really worried about "muh second peak" they wouldn't pull-down field hospitals.
Exactly! They should keep them all open as we lift lockdowns. Test the waters while keeping emergency measures in place. Only after lifting the lockdowns completely do you tear down the reserve units.
SYSTEMS MODELS ARE MONEY LAUNDERING APPS
Change. My. Fucking. Mind.
In Cuomo's case they also serve as a launch platform for his 2024 campaign. He's doing daily press conferences, taking a page out of Trump's book, and practically wears a superhero cape
The guy is so dreadfully negative about everything, and loves to say every fuckin sentence twice in a row, saying it slower the second time and hitting his fingertips on the table. He's a very shitty actor.
The negativity is to scare everyone. He wants you home as long as possible, glued to your television, watching HIM. Plus, every week that goes by with New York's economy shut down is another shit-ton of poor budgeting and outright theft he can cover for, laundering his own inadequacies with the blanket excuse of "COVID" (which in his eyes will good for months and years.)
The repeating himself is because he IS slow. When you can't think of on your feet, all you can do is repeat.
You just gave me a terrible vision of a Cuomo sycophant making a billboard "Not all heroes wear capes." I wouldn't be surprised if that were a thing.
It all started in Mexico with the SNIPE system
Right.
Or maybe they had another purpose.
So going back to the beginning, the CDC / Scientist were right to freak out. We were told that we have a SARS like virus with an infection coefficient >4 and with a 2 week asymptomatic but infectious period. That is terrifying, like perfect storm scenario. Whether you trusted the data out of China or not, it looked very dire. Hell, Boris Johnson said that China was likely under reporting by 18-40 fold. That is such a weird range, it looks like a confidence interval.
But now that we have more information no one is willing to step back and say "Ya we probably could have done that better, but better safe than sorry." They would get slaughtered politically, so now it is this bull shit ok "we are survivors" now we got to slowly rebuild and be super duper extra safe.
Millions of people have become overnight germaphobes. You could probably scare them even more by telling them how bacteria is becoming more resistant to most anti-bacterial soaps (and I'm wondering how much of that is just fearmongering now).
Then there's people who live with the elderly who are afraid of getting their elders sick. Hasn't this always been a risk with influenza though? Is everyone under 50 supposed to change their entire lifestyle so that people who live to be 80 can live to be 81?
If it behaved like a SARs (10%) or MERs (30%) with respect to mortality than ya everyone under 50 should have stayed locked in place. If it had those kinds of mortality you would see 1 out of every 30 40-year olds dying. That was the initial fear. But its utterly stupid to have shut down everything without first stopping all air travel, bus travel, and public transportation.
No, but this seems extra deadly to the elderly. People already stayed away from their elderly relatives if they got sick, they would've just been more cautious with this until it blew over.
If you were the CFO of a company and reported numbers that were 90% wrong to the board, you'd be 1) incompetent or 2) have an agenda and trying to manipulate things. Either way, you'd have to go!
So, what we learn is there's a bunch of bean pushers who throw darts at a board and record it as 'science'.
Its time for reform of standards and practices across the board. As well maybe make it a big thing to not tell the Media the high numbers. Then punish those who leak the bogus numbers.
Dude, we can't punish anyone regardless of evidence, whether they married their brother, committed obvious treason, etc... What makes you think we can punish leakers who make midnight phone calls from anonymous sources?
Sorry, still don't trust the system.
Then as people have been stating, its probably time to redo the system.
I hate the reason most feckless Republicans give, "if we enforce the law on them, they will enforce it on us."
Well here's the double standard, they will always use the law to punish Republicans, free thinkers and those who run against the grain. They want power and absolute power to say the least. Republicans in congress need to grow a spine and start going after these people, even if it means hitting some of your own whom have laid in the bed of snakes.
If you tell the media there is a one in a million chance that an asteroid will hit the earth and wipe out humanity, they will write "science confirms probable asteroid strike to wipeout life as we know it."
He should be fired that's what happens in the real world. Second he should be sued for providing knowing false information and stealing tax dollars
You misspelled! Should be *[fried], as in "electric chair"! That's what happens to serial, mass-murdering war criminals. His murdering career began decades ago with HIV and he has left millions of deaths in the wake of his killing spree since then. Why he is still allowed to continue on is beyond me.
I don't know why h e is allowed to continue. I wish I knew what Trump knows. It makes me nervous. Electric chair for sure!
McCormick Place in Chicago which mayor Beetlejuice and governor Lard Ass insisted was important treated a total of 13 patients. Several nurses received a guaranteed eight week contract that totaled over $104,000 dollars. This was confirmed by 560's The Answer Amy Jacobson because a friend of her's daughter was a nurse there.
Lard Ass reduced the number from 3,000 beds to 1,000 but he and Beetlejuice are illegally extending the lockdown and have implemented and impossible 5-Phase Reopening BS.
Idk,
I would have rather built them and used them, then not and need them.
We should take it as a lesson as to not overreact and overly depend on the ezpert models. Idk. Hard to say. China looked like hell on earth from what we saw and if we had a sliver of that i would perfer having the feild hospitals.
We need to open america up tho. Its time
I'm pretty sure what we saw coming out of China was what they wanted us to see.
And in absense of mass death.we have people fighting to keep the quarantine going to further crash the economy. Yay
Those people think 30M is just a number.
Remember what Bill Maher said: Bring on the recession as long as it means that Trump will lose the next election! He's even said it twice: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bill+maher+recession
Its communist china, propaganda capital of the world...they wanted the world scared so they didnt suffer economically alone.
I can forgive the models being off. We didn't know what was going to happen. We now know the facts and it's time to act upon them. Wish Trump would dismiss the "experts" and use his own good sense. Fortunately this turned out to be no worse than a cold/flu virus, but just as contagious. Cold/flu kills tens of thousands of people and we move on. Same here.
The end game is forced vaccinations with certain key people getting mega rich off the patents for the cure.....of course it doesn't seem to go well when this finally happens...maybe this is what the book of Revelation was talking about...The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image......
Who won the contacts for these field hospitals?
It wasn't a contract thing! The Army Corps of Engineers was assigned to build the hospitals
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Glad we didn't have to use the field hospitals. However, i'm glad we had them ready just in case.
Just as you don't carry a gun with the intent to use it all the time, you have it just in case.
Or were they preparing for something else....??
Investigate all this. If they committed fraud prosecute and open up the country. KAG means purging the looters and liars and scum that have been lying to this country.
Glad we listened to science and forced everyone to go out of business.
To be fair, I thought this was a big deal back and January and prepared and was cautious because I live around the elderly. But I also didn't shut down an entire state and arrest people for taking risks with their health that we've always taken.
Fuck the Gateway Pundit ! Their articles read like they were written by five-year-olds. It's just clickbait crap with gross medical advertisements.
They blame President Trump for the "shutdown". Because supposedly Trump is just a dupe under the spell of Dr. Fauci - so say the toddlers at Gateway Pundit.
In fact, the "shutdown" was a state-by-state shutdown done by the governors.
Gateway Pundit is painting a false image of our POTUS.