Thing is, a huge percent of people out there still watch and believe all this bullshit shoved in their face. Blows my mind these networks get no repercussions for doing this.
I spend way too much time thinking about how to hold the media accountable. It’s tough. It’s like trying to take away the microphone from an 800lb gorilla.
It's the future, man. On Youtube, most zoos have streaming video of many of their popular animals, and several animal reserves have live streams as well but the animals are a bit more aware and don't really seem to like being on camera.
This one is my favorite GorillaChannel, but there are others.
(On a serious note, it's actually very relaxing to watch footage of animals with no commentary. If you're the kind that is used to having tv on all the time but find that modern media makes you want to die, it's great at helping to transition to being used to fewer and more natural sounds.)
Ya it sucks, but I think the best way to do this is to totally reform the way our intelligence communities are structured. We all know that the MSM is nothing more than the propaganda arm for the democratic party / deep state, but have most of us ever wondered how this came to be? I mean is it just that Democrats have policy positions that appeal somehow to journalists/entertainers? Is it that they are way better at playing the PR game?
I don't think so. I think it has everything to do with the infiltration and manipulation of the intelligence communities. With Operation Mockingbird the CIA started embedding itself into hollywood and MSM news outlets. They had desk agents at every station of any significance.. but that was 60-70 years ago. They've been able to totally take over... but why democrat? The deep state can't be all left, can it?
That is a more recent development. Obama cozied up to this little cabal and used it for his own devices, and was able to embed only people who would do his dirty work and further his ideological aims. Never has there been such a corrupt leader as Obama and the left leaning deep state is his creation. Now even if you dont lean left and your a swamp rat you have to be on their side and defend them publicly/advance their agenda.
Anyway, nothing we can do to change things will work or last until we take away the ICs ability to control our goverments resources without any sort of oversight or accountability. It just won't. They operate above the law and above scrutiny and it's a fucking shame ever let this happen.
No I mean they don’t mind getting fooled and being lied to over and over again about everything. Smollett, Covington, but they biggest and best example is Trump Russia collusion hoax. Holy shit how many times did these losers get their hopes up over and over and over again because fake news convinced them that Drumpf was surely finished this time only to once again be disappointed?
Is there a list of these apologies and corrections? I usually just see that they've done so, read what they've updated, chuckle and move on. It would be nice to see a historical view of all these fuck ups that just so happen to conveniently benefit a particular party.
They know only the people mad about it will see the correction on Twitter. They won't update their audience on air, and if they do it will be during low viewership hours.
There should be a 3 strikes rule about these types of "errors". I'm flexible enough to say this can happen from time to time, but with the frequency target of all these "mistakes" of the past 5 years shows clear intent to mislead.
It should not be a legal issue, d/t due to freedom of speech. BUT it should result in progressive loss of credibility at large; and it has done so. Who believes anything they say, these days? I don't even watch.
If it had done so there'd be very few progressive voters.
What does d/t mean?
First amendment includes freedom of the press specifically to result in having an informed electorate. They don't produce that result. They themselves violate the first amendment.
We used to have some laws about this. One got pulled in the 1980s, another in the 1990s. It seems you did not live through any of that. This could be restored, and improved. We'd be MUCH better off if they were never done away with, and possibly just improved. News did at least make some attempt to present both sides of issues. We all know that's a rare exception now.
The news should be held to higher standard; to tell the truth. That or have a disclaimer at the beginning of each show - what we are about to tell you may or may not be true, and it is up to you as a viewer to figure that out.
It's never been so. There's a reason they're derided as "rags" (and it's not just that they used to be printed on cheap cloth...) We must allow their corrupt voice, but disbelieve it. Caveat Emptor.
And we MUST be a moral and educated populace; no saftey net is sufficient to save us from our own turpitude and stupidity. THAT is what the MSM manipulates. Indeed such enforced "safety" will itself be manipulated, as a sign of moral fault...
SPEZ: Don't shut up your enemies so that they build pressure. DESTROY THEM: 1) by converting them into beneficial frens, 2) by ridiculing them into ineffectual wrecks, or 3) by fighting them into physical ruin. I think we're around step 2...
Falsely yelling “FIRE!” in a crowded theatre is not protected speech. And neither should the media be allowed to mislead the population into a panic. For the same logic. And yet we’re seeing this every day with the Wuhan virus.
Not to mention the errors only go one way. These little “mistakes” never end up in Trump or conservatives favor. 100% of errors support their agenda? Nah.
Do they, though? They all know by now the retraction gets only a fraction of the attention that the original deceptive item received. In other words, mission accomplished.
How about a scorecard of all the retractions tallied up by each news organization. Like a billboard top 40 chart. Shaming these organizations for fake news.
THIS. They should be forced to shame themselves on their own front page for TWICE as long as the original story ran. Broadcast, of course, also. This simple rule would solve many problems.
Why is it when someone gets "inadvertently" cut off, 100% the time that someone is conservative, while at the same time, 90% of their coverage is on liberals?
Like they are not native English speakers and understand nothing about context. As though it's not their professional purview to be extremely concerned about language and conveying meaning accurately.
So what forced them to apologize for their trick? I mean, these are the guys who had Katie Couric heavily edit a gun rights interview to make the conservatives look stupid.
Their "mistakes" and "errors" always go against Trump. Every single time. If it were truly mistakes and not partisan, Trump would get at least SOME "mistakes" that didn't make him look bad.
Reminds me of the edited George Zimmerman 911 call, made to sound like he was eager to mention Trayvon Martin was black, rather than saying what race he was in response to the dispatcher's explicit question. That was NBC as well, wasn't it?
Awesome that you “regret the error” only after you get caught. Your credibility continues to spiral. Chuck Todd is lighter than popcorn, but I hope you guys keep it up through November so I can witness the hysterical, delicious meltdown (again).
Oh cool, good for them, I’m sure everybody that watched this show saw this. Man, I bet Chris Matthews is rolling over in his grave, oh wait, he’s not dead yet, just completely irrelevant like F Chuck Todd will soon be!
how many times are these retards going to get caught blatantly lying and have anybody believe their "whoops we didn't mean to" bullshit. yeah you did mean to. you got caught though. fuck you.
"that we missed", lol...
They really think their audience are complete morons.
Well, I mean, if you're still their audience by now....
Thing is, a huge percent of people out there still watch and believe all this bullshit shoved in their face. Blows my mind these networks get no repercussions for doing this.
I spend way too much time thinking about how to hold the media accountable. It’s tough. It’s like trying to take away the microphone from an 800lb gorilla.
Did you see the way that one Gorilla hit the other?!
But from the way that Sweden is handling the gorilla, you'd think it was a chipmunk!
It's the future, man. On Youtube, most zoos have streaming video of many of their popular animals, and several animal reserves have live streams as well but the animals are a bit more aware and don't really seem to like being on camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgXWDk7rh4w&list=PL7SlyT6akIpnE3CpMX1TNPTNw6_wvP21w&index=12&t=0s
This one is my favorite GorillaChannel, but there are others.
(On a serious note, it's actually very relaxing to watch footage of animals with no commentary. If you're the kind that is used to having tv on all the time but find that modern media makes you want to die, it's great at helping to transition to being used to fewer and more natural sounds.)
We have the absolute best similes, folks!
Ya it sucks, but I think the best way to do this is to totally reform the way our intelligence communities are structured. We all know that the MSM is nothing more than the propaganda arm for the democratic party / deep state, but have most of us ever wondered how this came to be? I mean is it just that Democrats have policy positions that appeal somehow to journalists/entertainers? Is it that they are way better at playing the PR game? I don't think so. I think it has everything to do with the infiltration and manipulation of the intelligence communities. With Operation Mockingbird the CIA started embedding itself into hollywood and MSM news outlets. They had desk agents at every station of any significance.. but that was 60-70 years ago. They've been able to totally take over... but why democrat? The deep state can't be all left, can it? That is a more recent development. Obama cozied up to this little cabal and used it for his own devices, and was able to embed only people who would do his dirty work and further his ideological aims. Never has there been such a corrupt leader as Obama and the left leaning deep state is his creation. Now even if you dont lean left and your a swamp rat you have to be on their side and defend them publicly/advance their agenda.
Anyway, nothing we can do to change things will work or last until we take away the ICs ability to control our goverments resources without any sort of oversight or accountability. It just won't. They operate above the law and above scrutiny and it's a fucking shame ever let this happen.
is it really surprising that the party who consistently votes to give the government more power would be favored by the government?
What blows my mind is the viewers don’t mind being lied to over and over and over again.
But unless they come here, or read a tweet correcting the story at 1am, do they even know?
No I mean they don’t mind getting fooled and being lied to over and over again about everything. Smollett, Covington, but they biggest and best example is Trump Russia collusion hoax. Holy shit how many times did these losers get their hopes up over and over and over again because fake news convinced them that Drumpf was surely finished this time only to once again be disappointed?
Joe Biden won primaries...nuff said
Was selected by the DNC, this story isnt finished my pede
Obama's Smith Mundt Modernization Act. That's why they get away with it all.
"realise how dumb the average person is, then realise half of these motherfuckers are dumber than that!"- George Carlin
I know a lot of people who still believe the news and read only headlines. Some of them are still 30-80% sheep mode.
jail journalists for lyingg
Chuck Todd serving a 2 yr rap in Rikers (one can dream)
In a cell with Nick Tartaglione and Epstein’s former guards working round the clock
THIS.
I often find myself asking "How stupid do they think we are?"
And then I remember: Oh, yeah. The normies. They're exactly that stupid, and then some.
Needless to say, they keep getting away with it.
Just the ones who won't read or take note of the constant apologies and rewrites they do for their stories.
The number of people who fall for this kind of act will...probably not surprise you...
Is there a list of these apologies and corrections? I usually just see that they've done so, read what they've updated, chuckle and move on. It would be nice to see a historical view of all these fuck ups that just so happen to conveniently benefit a particular party.
They intentionally falsified the quote. But why wouldn't they if they won't pay any price?
They know only the people mad about it will see the correction on Twitter. They won't update their audience on air, and if they do it will be during low viewership hours.
There should be a 3 strikes rule about these types of "errors". I'm flexible enough to say this can happen from time to time, but with the frequency target of all these "mistakes" of the past 5 years shows clear intent to mislead.
There would be no major news outlet left except OANN...I'm okay with this
It should not be a legal issue,
d/tdue to freedom of speech. BUT it should result in progressive loss of credibility at large; and it has done so. Who believes anything they say, these days? I don't even watch.SPEZ: clarity
If it had done so there'd be very few progressive voters.
What does d/t mean?
First amendment includes freedom of the press specifically to result in having an informed electorate. They don't produce that result. They themselves violate the first amendment.
We used to have some laws about this. One got pulled in the 1980s, another in the 1990s. It seems you did not live through any of that. This could be restored, and improved. We'd be MUCH better off if they were never done away with, and possibly just improved. News did at least make some attempt to present both sides of issues. We all know that's a rare exception now.
Not the OP but I took d/t to be “due to”
Thanks
The news should be held to higher standard; to tell the truth. That or have a disclaimer at the beginning of each show - what we are about to tell you may or may not be true, and it is up to you as a viewer to figure that out.
It's never been so. There's a reason they're derided as "rags" (and it's not just that they used to be printed on cheap cloth...) We must allow their corrupt voice, but disbelieve it. Caveat Emptor.
And we MUST be a moral and educated populace; no saftey net is sufficient to save us from our own turpitude and stupidity. THAT is what the MSM manipulates. Indeed such enforced "safety" will itself be manipulated, as a sign of moral fault...
SPEZ: Don't shut up your enemies so that they build pressure. DESTROY THEM: 1) by converting them into beneficial frens, 2) by ridiculing them into ineffectual wrecks, or 3) by fighting them into physical ruin. I think we're around step 2...
Falsely yelling “FIRE!” in a crowded theatre is not protected speech. And neither should the media be allowed to mislead the population into a panic. For the same logic. And yet we’re seeing this every day with the Wuhan virus.
Not to mention the errors only go one way. These little “mistakes” never end up in Trump or conservatives favor. 100% of errors support their agenda? Nah.
How about a law that requires retractions to be front page for 3 times the time they spent on the lie.
They regret getting called out.
Isn't it weird these "mistakes" NEVER benefit Trump and his administration.
Seriously, not a single fucking one. Wish more people would wake up, this shit is intentional
Anybody watching them should regret it.
Do they, though? They all know by now the retraction gets only a fraction of the attention that the original deceptive item received. In other words, mission accomplished.
True, but I think that they would prefer not having to issue a retraction at all, which they usually get away with.
They should put equal or greater effort into spreading the correction as they did into spreading the initial "mistake".
Yeah -- that was an issue a few year's back, maybe Apple, and they had to put the notice on top of the page for everyone to clearly see
How about a scorecard of all the retractions tallied up by each news organization. Like a billboard top 40 chart. Shaming these organizations for fake news.
Elon Musk floated that very idea when "Fact checkers" were the buzzwords of the week, and that was the day the entire media apparatus turned on him.
Make them shame themselves.
3 times the time on the front page for retractions, and a standardized bold counter for amount of that company's retractions next to it.
THIS. They should be forced to shame themselves on their own front page for TWICE as long as the original story ran. Broadcast, of course, also. This simple rule would solve many problems.
Lol.
Why is it when someone gets "inadvertently" cut off, 100% the time that someone is conservative, while at the same time, 90% of their coverage is on liberals?
I would lose my effing mind if I had to work in whatever they have for a PR Dept. Fake news is evil.
"We're sorry we got caught."
Neither will they show the important info they skipped. Proving it wasn't a mistake.
Like they are not native English speakers and understand nothing about context. As though it's not their professional purview to be extremely concerned about language and conveying meaning accurately.
Fuck these MSM motherfuckers.
Being truthful is outside my purview- MSM
Just classify them as parody/satire.
Even SNL is more truthful
“I’ve made a huge tiny mistake” - NBC
So what forced them to apologize for their trick? I mean, these are the guys who had Katie Couric heavily edit a gun rights interview to make the conservatives look stupid.
Fake News gonna fake news.
"inadvertently"
They didn't watch the next 10 seconds of the clip they cut. Yeah, I believe them. This "apology" is also another lie.
Pen's Law: any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
“Regret” bullshit
Their "mistakes" and "errors" always go against Trump. Every single time. If it were truly mistakes and not partisan, Trump would get at least SOME "mistakes" that didn't make him look bad.
These losers wouldn’t have apologized if they weren’t called on it.
FUCK YOU FAKE FUCKING NEWS GET FUCKED
Translation...we got caught.
^^^^
That was not an error. That was intentional.
This from NBC?
People on hell must be ice skating
Reminds me of the edited George Zimmerman 911 call, made to sound like he was eager to mention Trayvon Martin was black, rather than saying what race he was in response to the dispatcher's explicit question. That was NBC as well, wasn't it?
you see how they are scum?
Awesome that you “regret the error” only after you get caught. Your credibility continues to spiral. Chuck Todd is lighter than popcorn, but I hope you guys keep it up through November so I can witness the hysterical, delicious meltdown (again).
The tears are so yummy!
The normies are waking up to their bullshit every day...
mainly cuz of you pedes...
Oh cool, good for them, I’m sure everybody that watched this show saw this. Man, I bet Chris Matthews is rolling over in his grave, oh wait, he’s not dead yet, just completely irrelevant like F Chuck Todd will soon be!
how many times are these retards going to get caught blatantly lying and have anybody believe their "whoops we didn't mean to" bullshit. yeah you did mean to. you got caught though. fuck you.
Meet The Pricks
NBC is a shithole country.
LOL. Because they know Bill Barr is not going to let them get away with that sh*t. Jeff Sessions maybe but not Barr.
We're so broken up about it. No, really.
They always "err" the same way.
That apology was nearly as small and insignificant as Pencil Neck's pindick. Nearly.
Pure leftist propaganda
They regret being caught. Most of their errors don't normally get caught so they don't like it.
They regret they got caught. Nothing more.
Total coincidence Chuck Todd accused him of not saying the words that they cut off.
It’s amazing how the leftist media NEVER edits their meat puppets to sound bad.