U.S Students Baffled With Expensive $70k Education For Zoom Classes.
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Time to hang up on the college scam and just go check out some books from the library to read up on the topic you are learning about for free.
That's the key, need to cut off federally backed student loans and grants. Let the prices come down naturally.
That's not enough. Also need to ban foreign students because there are a lot of rich foreigners who will spend a lot of money to send their kids here
Won't help until employers stop requiring a college degree in order to hire people. Heck, many places won't even look at people with 10 years of experience unless they have a Masters. It's ridiculous. Big business is all in on the con.
For the megacorps it's more akin to a piece of paper proving membership in the Big Club than anything. They are aristocrats.
Well people used to have to go to the actual business to apply...now a bunch of over educated skulls full of mush can hammer out 20 applications in ten minutes with “easy apply”. If they are really crafty they copypasta the job requirements and make it their work history.
this is honestly where it starts, with the employers realizing degrees are useless.
it is definitely happening, even in big money industries, but it's all moving too fucking slow. why does everything good have to take forever.
Employers aren't going to realize that because they want to off load their training costs to colleges. Most students now attend college for job training degrees (which should just be in their own vocational/tech school) and still graduate with debt. Oh and all those students that graduate with practical job degrees still have to compete with foreign visa holders or immigrants. It's an utter rat race.
Yep, this is it right here. High school and college used to be preparatory, and employers did job training. Employers thought they could stop doing job training, so really, they have only themselves to blame.
Well when the population for decades has been hammered with “People who go to college statistically make more money” (even though people fail to realize it’s a correlation not a causation. Rich kids with well connected parents go to college.) so everyone just goes to college then you as an employer just have to wait for them. The overachievers don’t apply for jobs they go to college because that’s what they think they should do. So the companies wait and look for those.
FIFY: Many companies won’t look at you unless you have an H1B visa and are willing to work for half the salary of a worker with 10 years experience and a Masters.
Yup
Demoncrats hate the self educated, especially if it is a learning a trade that makes a man or woman self sufficient
The best thing I got from an expensive education at a top engg school was being surrounded by people who were smarter, better organized, and harder working than me. It forced me step up to their level and work at their pace. You won't get that reading books alone at home.
That's basically how the rest of the world handles it. Somehow the American style education (based on the old English Oxford style) became the "go-to".
Guess what, back in 1700 it was stupid expensive to get a university education so only the rich got them. Now we say "everyone should get it" but not everyone can be a CEO.
Even the first year or two of any undergrad stem education (math, physics, chem, etc) could be done through Khan Academy right now. Set up a test-out system where you study on your own at home and save the $$$, eliminate gen-Ed, and boom you’re down to 2 years of paid tuition. It would be very easy to get the last two years of any engineering curriculum on Khan Academy too...
The class lecture setting is incredibly archaic, expensive, and inefficient. It still exists to promote a fake priesthood where professors and administrators are our betters and we are supposed to kiss their asses and worship them.
Take a sabbatical from college. Dont pay premium prices for McDonalds drive through education
Colleges need to be audited. So much CHICOM money being laundered
They are almost all Taxpayer Funded Communist Institutions. Shut them down and start over
or just...shut them down. build something new. something we actually need or want.
Yep, shut them down. The internet can teach most things; employers can teach the rest. Need people who know how to work in labs, or on mechanical objects? Train them.
Can't blame them
What, you mean the students finally looked up from their cell phones long enough to notice the professor isn't in the room anymore? Wow.
Unless you want to be a doctor, nurse, engineer and a few other professions. College is a waste. Trade school is an option. Basket weaving Nd women's or black studies is a good to waste your money while fucking up your head. Spend that money on meth instead it will leave you in a better place than liberal brainwashing
Hardly any student is going to school for "basket weaving" degrees, and women's studies or black studies programs have always had very low enrollments. Most college students are attending for job training degrees in computer science, healthcare, or business...and they still have to go into debt because employers force people to have a degree to get hired.
You don't need a degree in business to start a business and you don't need a computer science degree to write code, or do mechanical or electrical engineering.
You really shouldn't need a nursing degree to practice medicine, but the government says you have to.
No, you don't "need" it for those things but its the way most people have to get their start now. Not everyone has the aptitude or the skill to run their own business. These band aid solutions might work for some individuals but they are not going to fix what is a huge institutional problem.
My counterargument: Trade school's limit the number of students who enroll in medical programs to prevent wages for medical staff to go down.
College is even a bit of a waste for medical professions. Back when I was in school there were 6 year fast-track med programs. You basically do your college stuff while also training as a doc. They really should just make doctoring straight up vocational.
This is what happens when administration get 95% of the tuition and the textbook publishers have noncompetition clauses in their contracts to them to sell calculus books that need a new edition every year despite calculus having never changed.
I remember publishers coming in and telling us that if we could find errors in their books they would give us $20. Right, like I'm taking $20 so you can print a new edition so students can't by used next semester. Scam.
if Donald Trump and Team America coordinated it so that every scam running in our country for the last few decades+ is exposed at the same time I will jizz 19 gallons
Large colleges have turned into a get rich quick scheme.
It is illegal for employers to use IQ testing to screen candidates. SAT test scores on average come out the same as IQ scores. So schools have an economic monopoly on IQ testing. Employers have to use educational certification as IQ screens because the law forbids them from testing directly. End this monopoly.
Very true..IQ correlates very well with success - if you can measure that and consciousness you would not need colleges. They are waste of money for most jobs.
They aren't paying for knowledge. All that knowledge is free.
They're paying for administrators, diversity officers, academic "research", and ultimately a piece of paper that will let them into a different social strata.
College has nothing to do with being "smart". It's a gatekeeping mechanism.
Universities are going to burn if they decide to do online classes for the fall. So many students are thinking about just dropping that semester and taking classes at a community college.
Those fixed costs and salaries don’t stop because of Zoom.
I wish I could ditch college. Need the damn thing to get a law degree, but I wasted so much time taking mandatory gen eds and special snowflake classes. Hated my entire undergrad, what a waste of time and money. Grad school should have been an option without an undergrad degree. Here's hoping that after this bullshit, colleges start to collapse. That way my kids can go straight into their career path instead of having to take 80 credits worth of bullshit and repeat high school classes disguised as higher learning
"Shut up and accept your worthless diploma, kids."
You can thank Obama for 70k tuition.
Why 70k? Guess how much the feds are willing to loan out?
Start laying off teachers and this plague would be over tomorrow.
Turn on, tune in, drop out...or better yet, fix yourself, clean your room, drop out.
Excellent point
NO REFUNDS, SUCKERS.
They need to pay them coders who learnt to code.
THAT is what has them miffed?
Today's students are too slow, ignorant, or both.
My school moved to Zoom...
Yep, that clever Democrat ploy totally backfired on the Higher Educator Institutions, huh?
MIT OpenCourseWare with proctoring. You're welcome.
They didn't think their liberal colleges were going to get away with "Stiffing China" with the check did they?
It is hard to virtue signal when no one is watching you.
Take out that government loan. No underwriting needed.