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DisgustedByMisleadia 12 points ago +14 / -2

This is the actual bill:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6666/text?r=2&s=1

It specifically says:

testing individuals and providing individuals with services related to testing and quarantine at their residences.

Whatever the State of Washington might be up to, it has nothing to do with HR 6666.

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Isolated_Patriot [S] 19 points ago +20 / -1

That's not the important part of that line. The funding is for the contact tracing, and the testing, it's not specifically for the "quarantining at their houses." That would be free.

Washington can't contact trace their whole state without funding. This bill provides the funding, in an extremely open ended format, and effectively in perpetuity.

They are going to do more than just tell people to stay home. Again.

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christianknight 2 points ago +2 / -0

They've been doing that for years. Why do you think Hollywood has has much triangles on their imagery?

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blackestknight 2 points ago +6 / -4

I honestly read this bill and don't really see anything that can be used to harm people.

The funds are allocated for 2020, and 2021 and more only if the emergency is not lifted.

As for what it funds, it's either clinics, schools or non profits, not armed mercenaries for hire.

The services eligible are mostly help with testing, the only dubious part is contact tracing which is definitely anti-constitutional.

It's basically just an appropriations bill to unlock money for people to help with testing.

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blackestknight 4 points ago +4 / -0

If contact tracing was unconstitutional, state and local health departments would have been in trouble long ago. The CDC does it as well.

Depends how it's done. If they are collecting your personal information, using your cell triangulation data to get your position and basically tracking where you go and who you meet with, it is definetly a violation of the fourth amendment.

That's how my county already knows that about half of the confirmed cases are contact with another confirmed case.

Pretty sure all the cases are contact with another confirmed case. Do you virus bro.

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DisgustedByMisleadia -4 points ago +1 / -5

You can't get cell phone triangulation data from the cellphone company without a warrant:

https://www.cnet.com/news/supreme-court-says-warrant-necessary-for-phone-location-data/

A warrant requires probable cause to believe a crime has been committed.

But, not all of the cases in my county are contact with a confirmed case. In about half, they could only identify approximately where. A significant percentage were people that traveled to a known hotspot..... ironically, like NYC.

Cuomo tried to call it the "European virus" since it came to NYC from China via Europe. Since genome analysis has established that most of the outbreaks in the US were seeded from NYC, I think we should start calling it the NYC virus.

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Tuggy_McTuggboat 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't even read it like it's meant to do anything but grab more control of people and give tax money from Red states to shitholes. An "if you won't give it, we'll take it." bill that just pisses me off.

Let the bleeding stop and let them go bankrupt.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 0 points ago +2 / -2

I didn't add it to this post, but you can see my comment farther down: I think the funding is excessive. It's $100B (yes, with a B, that's not a typo). And as you suggest, it will mostly go to blue-state shitholes like California and New York.

My state (and county) is already doing exactly what this bill is supposed to fund, but we aren't expecting the feds to pay for it.