If shit particles can fit through two layers of cloth, travel across the room then land in your nose, then a virus can fit through those stupid fashion symbol, moral narcissist, masks... For the low information liberal: methane is odorless.
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Even the CDC released a study this May saying masks don't work in preventing influenza. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
Cloth masks 13x less effective, so why the charade? Population and thought control? Nah, couldn't be!
It's not a mask. Let's call it what it is - a muzzle.
If it can't block a fart, it's a muzzle.
They specifically advised against wearing masks during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic as well. What's different this time?
For the same reason that if Hillary had won no one would ever have heard of Covid-19.
Was going to say this same thing, they are just doing the same plan they had all along, they can't wait 5 more years, so instead of using the planDEMic to institute martial law using the health care system, they are using it to try and get rid of Trump, the martial law is just a bonus for them if they succeed, which thankfully, does not look like it will.
I've thought of that angle, too. Who knows? Or maybe I should say, "WHO knows." 😉
Different President.
This time Obama is not president and they are trying to fear monger and destroy the economy of course.
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this is a really good report.
"Proper use of face masks is essential because improper use might increase the risk for transmission
basically saying if you want to use masks, it just creates an extra layer of shit you gotta clean, dispose of properly and worry about.
instead just breath normally and clean you hands and surfaces
And even n95 masks can only filter 95% of 300nm particles when properly worn. Cloth masks provide nothing in the way of protection.
Exactly this, but unfortunately 80% of the people who I see wearing a mask are constantly touching and adjusting them. And I’d bet my house that 90% of those people are leaving them in their cars instead of washing them after every use. I feel like this is worse than just basic hygiene that we all should have learned by now.
95% rate is only for standard 'static pressure'. As soon as you cough or breathe hard through a n95 / surgical / cloth mask you eject everything on the inside to the outside.
The more accurate analogy is if you diarrhea yourself, do others in the room get wet?
Username...checks out?
Hopefully not, but occasionally maybe
Ya but comparing exhaling to diarrhea would mean you would have to squirt out a bit more every few seconds. You'd start leaving a wet trail everywhere you went.
Oxygen and carbon dioxide are odorless gasses. That's not what you are smelling. The smell comes primarily from volatile sulfur compounds from your shit.
He's right though, sulfur is 0.104nm, this a huge difference.
The smell most of us associate with a fart is methyl mercaptan.
You're not wrong, just clarifying a specific compound.
There's some kind of swamp navy joke in there
It's sad that you are the only one that appears to know this.
The smelliest farts are due to sulfur compounds, like hydrogen sulfide (which is a gas).
H2S = Have To Shit.
Lol I'm going to bring this up to co workers. It's hilarious and so accurate
This is a serious scientific problem though.
When I fart it skinks up the entire bus. When someone else farts and I put my T-shirt over my nose as a make shift mask I can't smell it anymore.
This discrepancy defies all known scientific knowledge about the physical nature of the universe and hints that forces are at play beyond known physics.
This is the kinda science I’m here for
If they taught this in science class I would have paid more attention. This is the stuff we need to know.
You reduce the smell by introducing a large volume of airway dead space, which is the distance gas has to travel to reach your conducting airways. Normally, your olfactory receptors are the first thing to encounter atmospheric gas after someone plays their butt trumpet. Now you are exhaling into a shirt and rebreathing a reduced proportion of gas that came directly from another man's colon.
I wish I thought of this when science fair time rolled around back when I was in junior high. I would have actually put some effort into it. Of course I would volunteer to provide the samples.
Bro, that's hydrogen sulfide, it's a gas. It smells.
Surgeons wear masks so that they don't drip snot into your triple bypass. Has nothing to do with gas or nano particles.
If some dude next to me in produce is sick, and he coughs or sneezes, or his nose drips, I'd like my chances of not catching ANYTHING more if he had a mask.
N95 masks are made of different material than your pants and underwear. People with those homemade fabric masks are real dumb though. Those do absolutely nothing.
They're only good for getting Karen to shut her trap.
"Fuck off" does that too
Problem with that, Karen will call the manager at naked complaint and the manager has to act like he gives a shit.
Karen also likes to call the cops, who know her and laugh at her, but they still have to detain you to find out that that bitch is out of her mind again.
That is exactly why I wear a mask. I have no trouble dropping somebody who's excessively nasty, and in this day and age I probably be arrested for interfering with mask complaints.
The purpose of a mask for me is that a fellow people cough and sneeze, it grabs it and returns it on to their own face, rather than mine. Coronavirus or not, I don't like people sneezing on me.
My Gun Owners of America hat does that pretty well too. No mask required
After a bunch of reading, fart smells are typically gasses. Hydrogen sulfide being the one that we identify as rotten egg smell. Feces could contribute, but really only if you have a wet fart or you didn't wipe that well last time you craped. I'm not much of a scientist, but I don't believe that a gas and a virus act the same.
Certainly blows out those cloth masks people wear. I think the right masks have porousness measured at the micron-level, which is the key I think. I know with the right mask, odors can absolutely be blocked. On rare occasions, I am forced to go to the dump, and I've learned the hard way that wearing a mask is so fucking key in the summer months when the sun is beating down on rancid garbage. You almost can't breathe on a hot day at the dump without a mask, it's unbelievable.
N95 filters out 95% of 0.3 micron particles when appropriately fit and appropriately worn.
That's not what most people are wearing.
If I saw an N95..hmmm well that person might have a reason for doing it.
It's these clown show dress up contraptions that have negative value. So frickin obnoxious and retarded. It gives me wicked anxiety realizing that people are really that stupid.
Right. Cloth masks are garbage.
For a limited time you can get WASHABLE, COPPER INFUSED (and very stylish) masks for only $19.95. And if you call now...
I saw that and thought, "Hooray for Capitalism and taking advantage of suckers." They're not getting a cent from me, but a lot of Karens will be a little bit poorer and they deserve it.
I have a beard, guess I'll just keep being a free man and not covering my face.
Methane is odorless but farts aren't pure methane and gasses easily pass through cloth. Which is why you can breathe air through your shirt.
This is some cliche "Trump supporters are stupid" level shit and 422 dumbasses upvoted it... Read a book or something ffs
that's why it's a forum. there a plenty of thoughtful responses regarding masks.
lol. This is funny and can someone please pose this question to Dr. Fauci, since he's such a big time expert? I would love to see the reaction during a press briefing.
😂
This got me thinking...Can someone breakdown the science of a Dutch oven?
if you fart on a pillow wearing clothes, You're fine. Fart on a pillow bare assed, you're getting pink eye. Masks help when people spit when they talk, sneeze, and cough. otherwise I'm right with you. Covid is less deadly than the flu, and this whole thing is BS. but masks do work.
So what the fuck am I supposed to do on Friday nights then???
whatever you want. it's free country. just don't leave your home, because it's not a free country
Gross dude. I never fart with my pants on.
But it prevents the larger shit particles from entering the nostrils of others.
For low information pede: the smell is hydrogen sulfide, a gas, made by bacteria in your colon, not particles of poo. Do a little research before you make us all look like absolute hayseeds.
Scientific problem though. Viruses are essentially genetic material wrapped in a protein that can be 10s of thousands times bigger than your ass gas. The way that viruses travel through air is being dissolved in droplets of bodily fluids that you project when you cough or sneeze. A mask will prevent you from inhaling those droplets but can still transmit by contact which is why medical masks are thicker than a bandana and are form fitting. That’s why being in the same room as someone infected doesn’t mean you will be infected and the same reason why smelling a fart doesn’t give you an E. Coli infection.
tldr: Not true because gas is small, viruses are relatively big. Source: Just aced biochemistry.
Can I get AIDS from a toilet seat or not?
Depends how much blood and cum is on the toilet seat and if you licked it or not.
Only kaposi sarcoma. You're cleared for takeoff
"moral narcissism"...I like it. Peace to you!
You literally have to wear a hazmat suit, and have a decontamination area when entering your home, and follow all decontamination procedures to the T, for any of this bullshit to work.
I'm gonna put a mask on my ass and walk around the supermarket now. Thanks for the idea!
You need to wear n95 pants buddy
And social distance
This is actually a good argument that masks do work. The pants block most of the particles
That's an easy to understand demonstration.
And it's wrong .
I half believe this guy is trolling to make us look like idiots.
Good to know, I can fart with my pants on without people smelling it.
Most of the masks I see in nz aren't tight fitting. On the sides it's wide open which is where most of the air will come from when a person inhales.
That's why I always take off my pants before I fart.
False
Virus cells with an N95 mask is not the same thing as a fucking smell in your pants. Gases aren’t the same thing as virus cells, dipshit.
I’m against masks too but this is the dumbest thing I’ve heard.
If you fart naked, it dissipates faster and doesn’t follow you around when you try to get away from it, too.
This analogy checks out and stands up to scrutiny.
THANK YOU. I've been doing this for years as a courtesy to others, and now I can't live within 500 yards of a school.
if you had brains you'd know the smell is not methane
I'm not asserting the efficacy of masks or otherwise in the scenario but your logic is flawed
Here is how I understand it: When you breath and talk you are secreting not just 80 nanometer coronavirus particles but also 1+ micron, virus-infested 'droplets'. So the the mask supposedly stops the droplets. Of course it begs the question, does the virus create the droplets or does the body generate them all the time? How come no other viruses can travel this way?
Incidentally the WHO, of all groups, says that there is not enough evidence to prove that the virus is airborne at all.
I am curious about one aspect of the masks that I can't find any information on. The stated goal is to stop droplets I understand that. I'm wondering about saturation and evaporation and how that affects release of the virus. If the droplet dries are wearers shortly thereafter ejecting bare naked virus out? If so how does size weight mass effect the particles mobility versus droplet travel
Corona is between .06-.14 microns, or 6-14nm. Tests of masks and particle size by U of Cincinnati published in 2006 (Am J Infec Control) shot 10-80nm virus particles at N95 and surgical masks, N95 didn't block 95%, respirators did better, and surgical masks varied widely in performance even from the same manufacturer, 80-15% effective. Yeah, one test found 85% of the LARGER THAN COVID particles got through. Cloth was tested in a study by U of Edinburgh, took out about 28% of diesel exhaust particles, which ranged above and below the range we're talking about.
Now, caveat- just because stuff gets through of course doesn't mean it's enough to get you sick. BUT: Coffee particles are 5-400 microns, so if you can smell the coffee, your mask is probably useless.
If you can poke a finger between the gaps around the nose and cheeks, your masks leaks.
If your glasses fog up every time you exhale, your mask leaks. If your mask is moist, it fails.
Holy shit, mind blown! Never thought about that
Have you tried farting through the mask?
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I always thought the notion was comical. Like do you really think air isn't escaping from your face? You think all the capacity of your lungs will/can just circulate in the mask? The fuck is wrong with people. Imagine taking a hit from a vape and exhaling into one of those masks. All that vapor pouring out from all sides of the mask? That's everyone breathing, all the time, everywhere.
The mask virtue signalers are going to enjoy wearing them even more in the summer heat that is rapidly approaching.
I think it's more because you have to tell people to do SOMETHING or they panic in all kinds of crazy ways. Like hiding under a desk for a nuclear attack, or having an 8x10 bomb shelter 'just in case' you have to survive the fallout underground for 40 years.
All 3 are silly the second you apply any critical thought to them, but when folks are scared, they cling to 'maybe' before they'll admit to doom. Probably for the best.
Anyhoo, if you'll recall, people were jumping towards masks WAY before the cdc was even mentioning them. What we're seeing now is really just the gov catching up with 'consumer preference,' in my mind.