Me personally, during this whole thing i have never felt any fear whatsoever regarding the virus. Yes this virus has taken out lots of people worldwide, but you know what else has, the flu. Each year worldwide, influenza kills 500,000 people every year. And that was from a google search i saw early on when. Funnily enough this statistic no longer shows up when you type in how many people die from influenza each year worldwide. What, did people just stop dying from the flu this year??
Its all BS, the fake corrupt media made this thing out to be the apocalypse, like it was the end of the world. Well it didnt take me out, im still here. And like the great DJT, i dont wear a mask when i go out.
I was worried that he would start wearing a mask during press brefings, thank goodness he is still the good old DJT i know and love. He like me cannot and will not wear a mask.
Mark my words, wordwide this virus is on its way down. Just look at countries all over the world, especially Italy, Spain and Britian that are now reopening thier countries.
Also, i have this belief that DJT will win re-election in a landslide and that whatever the media and Democrats try to do between now and November will blow up in their face.
The msm practically begging and pleading with us to be terrified made me skeptical from the start. You can't even get a weather forecast without the weathercuck injecting the fear into his/her presentation every night. Fear is for leftists, American patriots take reasonable precautions and live our lives.
Exactly. Every word the MSM says is a lie. Why would the virus be the one instance where they're telling the truth? I can only assume, therefore, that the virus, if it even exists, is comparable to the flu.
Here's why staying home is staying safe.
Five reasons why staying at home is safer. #5 will shock you! (#5 your wife's bull won't be messing around with other hoes and you have less chance of STD when your wife shares her dildo up your ass)
We're all in this together fellow comrades!!
4 people died yesterday, new cases up by 1000
(in the article.. the 4 people that died were 82, 89, 103, and 94)
You are trying to be funny (and you are) but this is EXACTLY accurate.
The left is now imitating satire instead of the other way around.
I like the barrage of articles "CASES SPIKE IN [INSERT STATE] AFTER EARLY REOPENING!!" It's all fear mongering.
And then it turns out they intentionally sent people carrying the virus there, to spread it. All on purpose.
They've been caught in those lies MANY times too!
My thought throughout all of this: if the pandemic is as bad as the media says it is, then why do they need to lie about it?! Shouldn't the facts speak for themselves?!
This is another nothing burger.
I agree. The media does the same doom and gloom stuff in Florida for every hurricane that is developing. You can hear it in their voices, all short choppy words with an emphasis on urgency. From the onset, I fully blame the media for wipping average Joe and Karen into the level of fear we see now. When that started to fade, they are now ratching it up again with this pediatric syndrome that "could be linked to Covid." What a fucking joke.
We were at the beach during Hurricane Irene having a great time enjoying having the place to ourselves as everyone else had cleared out. My mom calls from the Midwest, panicked because she saw on CNN it was all death and destruction! Heck, it was one of our best trips ever!
I live in Florida and the media will ALWAYS focus on the areas where the most damage happened, which is usually in areas where the houses are not up to proper hurricane code so of course they're going to be destroyed. But where I live, all the houses are built properly and are up to code so there's barely any damage, except for the occasional fallen branch, broken fence, and small flooding in a very low part of the property. Usually the area next to sidewalks.
The thing I miss the most about living in Florida was stepping outside during the eye of the storm. Experience the odd calmness.
The news always said "Don't do it! You'll die!" but my old man and I did every time we got the chance.
I've always wanted to be able to do this.
Awesome! Some of my best times were things like this! We weathered a tornado at a campground once, 150 people sheltered in a tiny basement, and it missed is by just a couple miles, but still wuite a bit of destruction. Manitou springs, 2008 i believe, good times.
When im not traveling, i look to do things like head out for a solo hike right as a giant thunderstorm is approaching. I think we would get along hockeymom4trump! Is this the point where i dm you a dick pic?
When you say DM me a dick pic you aren't going to send me a photo of Adam Schiff are you? Cause that would definitely be a dick pic. :)
I just took a cross country road trip during the pandemic and had the best time-no traffic, no one at the hotels, and no one else on the beach! I highly recommend disaster travel! Oh yeah, and gas was cheap and I was doing my part to improve the economy.
I was kidding about the dick pic, but schiff is a much bigger dick then i could offer! Hahaha!
I love road trips, we did 60k miles around the US, between the car and the rv in 2007/2008. Was epic!
HAHAHAHA!
The media is literally throwing a bucket of shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. Then they're taking whatever does stick and sticking it in the microwave to ratchet up the fear and disgust times 100.
Fear motivates you to sacrifice liberty in order to gain safety. The truth is we are all going to die and I'm dying on my feet
I was talking to someone recently and they opined that people are all scared to die now because they have no religion and death is unknown to them. When you spend the first 20, 30, 40 years ago watching Star Wars, playing vidya games and living in Mom's basement, of course you are going to fear death because you already fear living.
not all video games are bad. i grew up flying and driving real physics simulators.
i also played various other trainers and executive decision-making games (on mac os)
my family didnt own a TV either
Video / computer games have trained me to be the fearless warrior that I am today. Victory, or Sovngarde!
Then I took an arrow to the knee.
Ha!
Oh I get it. I still play video games myself. The other day when the weather was shit my daughter and I played a Kirby game together which was loads of fun. I just don't make them my identity.
I noticed this this week and I think it's really their only play.
If you think about it, defending the lockdown is political suicide.
99.5% of infected people survive,
and nowhere near 100% of the population gets infected.
Therefore, you have an OVERWHELMING majority of people who are largely unaffected by the virus.
So keeping these people in lockdown, losing their jobs, their financial freedom, their civil liberties, is going to piss them off. Defending this status quo is going to piss them off. Pushing for it to last longer is going to piss them off.
The ONLY case where you can sustain this powergrab is if you make the OVERWHELMING majority of people VERY, VERY AFRAID. If they aren't afraid, they will be angry. If they were afraid, and the fear has worn off, it will turn to anger. And they won't aim this at the president, they will aim it at people telling them to stay indoors.
So the MSM has to work overtime convincing people to be afraid. They have to repeat death numbers every day. They have to come up with new complications to attribute to the virus. They have to get doctors and reliable people on TV talking about how dangerous it is. It is literally their only play. It's wearing off now, and we're seeing the anger blowing up in their faces already in special elections. If they stoke this anger more in Q3 it will be A DEVASTATING LANDSLIDE for the republicans.
They do the death count everyday up here in MN and it freaks people out. They don’t do the death count for cancer, abortion, heart disease, car accident, regular old flu...this is so political.
If they start doing car accidents they will ban cars.
Lol, is there any way to get the autists at 4chan to do this? Literally drown out the Covid narrative with daily death rates of other diseases no one has cared about since ever.
That is what Pravda does best, instill fear and push the Communist narrative.
Remember during the Iraq war there were almost hourly military casualty counts. Then, as soon as Barry took office the constant casualty updates just went away.
The statistics are so corrupted that I no longer have any interest in following them. They have been rendered meaningless by falsely attributing deaths to the Chinese virus. That is something they never did with H1N1 or any previous pandemic.
And you know what is frustrating? There is a treatment! They are using it successfully in France. What is the problem with us using HCQ, Zinc, and a Z Pak? Not enough $$ to be made?
This whole virus is a bunch of BS. The stats are false, the doom and gloom is false, we have a solid treatment option...
...and the only reason they're (hospitals) doing that, is so they get more $$. Otherwise they go under water. But of course MSM only reports that those are actual covid deaths instead of telling the truth for. once.
What no one points out about the death rate is it's less than 1 percent of the population.
It's like post-911. There was an old episode of South Park where Sharon was stuck inside paralyzed in fear because all she did was watch CNN.
Back when we knew little to nothing about this... Like end of February early March. I know it was all bullshit because the MSM told us it would be cataclysmic. That's how you know what the real story is. Whatever the media says, it's the opposite.
Yes, it's a good tell-tale sign when they tell you in advance how bad things are going to get. If they were legitimately reporting on a real situation, they'd be reacting to the actual events on a day-by-day basis. When they start acting like they can see into the future, that's when you know they're making the whole situation up to advance an agenda.
If the news told me water was wet, I'd still flush the toilet to check.
Come tell all my fellow Michiganders that, please. My friends don't get it yet.
I want them to inject me with the wuflu. I have zero fear of this bs!!!!
Then make sure you go get tested. That’s prob how they do it 😅
Find someone that already has it and chicken pox them.
Same here. There was a brief period of time when I considered that maybe there might be something they weren't telling us about the virus, some long term or severe effects that they weren't disclosing that necessitated the extreme Ebola level measures and precautions they were pushing, but that has long since passed and I now believe that my original assessment of it being 90% political fuckery was correct.
I fear my favorite restaurants won't open again. Ever.
Mostly it isn't fear, it's anger. Anger that many of our leaders just don't give a shit about businesses and jobs. That they are so weak that they can't handle a discussion about the realities of what they are doing. That journalists aren't haranguing them daily about these issues.
The reality is a vaccine isn't coming. in time if at all, that can stop this virus completely. If they accepted that, then we'd being having discussions about opening far more rapidly then we are. People die, more will die. That's life. We need to get on with it.
Seeing restaurants get boarded up and for sale signs being put in breaks my heart.
One of my favorites just announced they bit the dust yesterday evening. Just months ago there was a nice row of locally-owned restaurants in a town adjacent to mine (a town known internationally for the wrong reasons) where my wife and I would go on date nights. An easy ten minute drive from home. Not the most prosperous area so having this area doing well is great for the whole region. Well, now two restaurants are gone, a third is teetering, the number of not only shuttered but boarded up businesses are accelerating, leaving questions about the stability of the rest of the area. Fuck you, coronavirus/MSM panic. Fuck you, county executive Sam Page.
What, pray tell, were the restaurants that got shuttered? I get the sense I might have been to a few of them before.
will PM you
Threadgills closed for good, along with Shady Grove and Matts El Rancho.
These have been locally owned and multi generational establishments all now gone for good.
6th Street (even though Im not a fan) is boarded up with lot's of for sale signs in the windows.
Less than 100 people died in Travis County and City Of Austin commies are over riding the govenors order to reopen and stay closed for another 30 days.
People here are saying it isn't enough while giving crocodile tears about the locally owned places being shut down for good.
Wonder how much the city council got paid off by multinational land and development companies to get that prime realestate for pennies on the dollar for million dollar 400 sqft condos...
Abbot once again doesn't do shit about these flagrant abuses of power from the mayors.
Why? No media attention.
And meanwhile the media spills buckets of tears over meatpacking plants and some of those get shut down and the ripple effect could lead to those already at or near poverty levels going hungry for some time to come. Screw the media. Not news to any of us posting here, but I wish more would wake up about the media.
Anger sums up my feelings for the last 5-6 weeks. Initially I could be described as fearful since we didn't know what the hell this thing would do, and because I have numerous elderly loved ones. However, now I'm just pissed off when I go into my local stores. Waiting in line and having to wear a mask just gets under my skin now. I respect the employees, but I can't help feel bothered when they give their little lecture as to these rules. Anger does not consume me all the time, but it does while I'm experiencing the so-called "new normal" which I understand to not be based on science, but instead it's all based on political correctness and sticking it ignorant Orange Man and his followers.
Nothing is based on science. You can walk on the beach, but not sit? Where is the science saying one is more likely to get the virus by sunbathing than by wandering around all over a beach walking? Where would one encounter more people? Walking or sitting off alone on a towel?
No, not science based or really based on anything. They attempted to justify the shutdown of the state parks here as required in part because they wouldn't have the resources to maintain things like trash pickup, etc., but that has proven to be a load of crap. I live next to a state park and I've seen more state parks employees over the last two months than I've ever seen. They have plenty of resources to put up and maintain their barricades and stand guard over park entrances. If anything they have the state parks employees working overtime to enforce the lockdown.
In MN our Governor has decided that some small business can reopen again. But not until MONDAY. Now, why Monday? What would be wrong with them opening Friday so they could have the whole weekend or Saturday? Or heck, why not today? No, Monday. Random and stupid and based on nothing. What data says it is going to make a bit of difference to the virus to wait and open next week v. a few days earlier? Now small business is closed another weekend, which does matter to their bottom line financially.
Governor Walz needs to go.
Here in Oregon they are mandating that any bar or restaurant that does open must stop serving all food and drink at 10 PM. Does the virus magically become more active after 10 PM? No, the "reasoning" the State gives is that in their infinite wisdom they believe that people will be more likely to disregard the "social distancing" and other edicts as the night wears on, especially if alcohol is involved. Never mind the fact that they forcing restaurants to stop serving all food and drink even if they don't serve alcohol.
This is simply authoritarian bullshit with no rhyme or reason. All Democrats need to go.
Arbitrary restrictions. They are a bunch of control freaks.
Having a hard time talking to my best friend about things we normally talk about. His job is in jeopardy if this continues. My job, while stressful right now, is essential and was never in jeopardy. While it won't likely be as good as last year, it'll still be a great year. I don't want to talk work, he doesn't either. We can't talk politics it's all doomsday shit. We can't talk about the Wuhan, he's got ChinaFlu exhaustion. We talked a bit about family. Lost/canceled vacations etc... Otherwise it was a bit like the weather... gloomy.
totally agree, at first I was like ok, this must be something bad, but now I feel like enough of this bullshit!
I've already resigned myself to the fact that my dining out and bar drinking days are pretty much over. My local pub, which I was a fixture at, will most likely never reopen, and even if some restaurants reopen, the dining experience will be so unpleasant with all the ridiculous restrictions that I would choose takeout instead.
I place 100% of the blame on Democrats, from the politicians that run this state and create these edicts to the cucks and Karens who want to keep things closed forever and are constantly bitching and complaining about people not wearing masks and not staying home. Fuck them all.
Dallas County?
Sitting in a plastic bubble somehow degrades from the restaurant experience. Who would have thought?
Yeah, here in Oregon your dining experience under "phase 1" would go like this:
Make reservations at your local casual restaurant to be one of the lucky few. Get greeted at the door by a mask wearing employee asking you to wait outside under other parties leave. You are finally allowed entry into the staging area, where the masked employee takes your temperature, squirts disinfect gel into your hands, and admonishes you for not wearing a mask. You are then carefully ushered into the feeding area, making sure you are at least six feet from anyone else at all times on the way to your table. Once you are seated at your table, that smells like a hospital room, you are handed your freshly sanitized, laminated menus as you notice the masked diners at the table across the room glaring at you. You order from the limited menu and then sit there quietly waiting for your food, taking in the scent of bleach and alcohol. If you need to use the restroom you will be carefully escorted by the masked host to ensure that you maintain your social distancing. You eat your meal, pay your tab, and are then carefully escorted out as a masked sanitization crew sweeps in to isolate and sterilize the table you were just sitting at and anything that touched it.
Yeah, that sounds like a fun night out.
The waiter shows you your meal, then goes back to the kitchen and puts it into a Vitamix, blends the shit out of it, and brings it back to you in a cup with a straw. You suck your meal through the straw without removing your mask completely. Romantic as hell.
Yeah, I figure that there is a small chance that they might do that here, but there are so many Karens here that calls to the "authorities" will be swift and unrelenting for any place that doesn't enforce it. They have already proven this with other Democrat edicts that have been passed here like the styrofoam ban. I applaud any bar that does it, and they will have by business, but I doubt that any will risk it.
Yeah, MN has shuttered a few restaurants because of this.
Italy was exploited by the media to fester unwarranted panic in America.
Change my mind.
Do you find people in your profession suffer from the dunning kruger effect? I've seen specialized doctors, with no relation to viruses, make bold claims and claim to be experts and have advanced knowledge, when in fact they are just parroting Fauci.....
hopefully, your gender isn't fluid, as it is with your intellect, lol...
I know a few doctors myself, and a lot are self-righteous but not that smart as you described.
I am also a physician and had a similar progression. Yes, at first we didn’t know the true fatality rate (since China’s data cannot be trusted) and it was very reasonable to be concerned. However, we now know enough to know it thankfully is not as deadly as it could have been. We also see there are real harms that come with keeping the country shut down.
I wonder how much of the trouble came from treating this like common pneumonia? I've heard plenty of times that ventilators were the absolute wrong way to go with the virus. Granted, it's a hindsight being 20/20 issue. No one knew any better at the time.
In a way the ventilator error was the fault of the hysteria. If you're convinced the virus is a certain killer, then people on ventilators dying like flies is what you'd expect, and you'd be less likely to reconsider your course of treatment because you've been conditioned to expect mass casualties regardless. The fact that people not on ventilators weren't dying at nearly that rate was drowned out by all the REE-ing.
I hope you prescribe HCQ, Zinc, and Z Pack
I remember seeing your posts from earlier being concerned about this. Glad to hear the followup.
I wish more doctors were speaking out about this is. We need people out there telling the truth about Covid.
Good for you! Don't stop. We need you speaking up.
Username seriously checks out.
I have been seriously worried this entire time, not joking, because my in-laws have effectively been on house arrest since early March. We are a very close family and get together often so I know it is taking a psychological toll on them.
I took it with as little seriousness as op from the beginning. But even though I was right and it’s has less deaths than the flu, I do see how bad it could’ve been had it been more deadly. And it did spread way faster than the flu, so I do now see the potential danger of it. And I’m now becoming more of a prepper. To me it was more of a wake up call. But before and now I still agree that it’s deadliness is mostly a hoax.
I’m with you. The upsetting part is how scared our parents are and those over 65. They have been psychologically abused by the media. I do know someone who survived it (she was on a vent and is 77, but in excellent health). She got it from a cruise - when we found out she was on the vent, I felt dread for the first time. I think when it touches your little world, it becomes too real.
Same. I worry about my elderly in-laws. This is destroying them mentally.
There are going to be so many new cases of mental illness because of this. I was quarantined with an alcoholic, and it wasn't fun.
Being quarantined with an alcoholic would definitely be a challenge. I hope you have some calm now and a little distance.
I'm was worried for my almost 70 year old parents and 95 year old grandpa. I'll be honest, sometimes youd hear your parents cough and you know the rumor "it starts with a dry cough" and you start to wonder.
But for my personal safety. No. Then you have Fauci. ALL the same Leftists who lied to the American peoples faces about Russia are saying trust this guy. Yeah, I'm not going to trust him. Especially when all the models have been off, there are NO repercussions for getting stories dead wrong, and the media is clearly pushing an agenda.
The only thing I fear is the fact that this covid19 propaganda exposed who is a brain dead idiot. Boy there is a lot of dumb people on this planet.
Seeing the mask people drive around in their cars with them on scares me shitless. Someone that stupid is in control of a 3,000 pound vehicle flying down the road at 50 MPH. They can do serious damage with that.
Saw the exact same thing last weekend. Raging up on me in an SUV at 80mph and just remaining there with a fucking mask. Risk their lives in their stupid mask. I was expecting to see a Baby On Board in the rear window too.
I saw a guy gardening in 97 degree Vegas heat by himself with a mask.
I've seen an awful lot of gullible people I know buy into this hook line and sinker. And they still wholeheartedly believe that people like Whitmer are just trying to do the altruistic thing and save lives. They also think that anyone trying to open their small business, or anyone wanting to help the business owners are just greedy selfish pricks who just want their slave labor back.
It just makes me think of how Jesus had to ask God to forgive people because "they know not what they do." These folks just have their heads so far up their collective butts that they can't see anything for themselves anymore. I just keep hoping that they wake the heck up when this is all over and become self-aware enough to not let themselves get taken in again.
It reminds me of that IQ video and Jordan Peterson. He explains that there is a large portion of the population that is literally so unintelligent they are only capable of pushing a broom around.
What bugs me is most of these super gullible people I know aren't dumb. They are actually pretty good at their jobs. But it's like when it comes to something other than their careers, they just can't think to go the extra mile and ask "why" about anything else they know.
That's what makes them dumb. Give them a single, focused task (their job) and they can do well at it.
Give them something requiring critical thinking skills, logic and personal research, and that's where their intelligence ends. Whatever FB, Twitter or the Fake News tells them is what they believe/regurgitate.
That's why they are dumb.
There's are different types of intelligence. Emotional, spatial, mental etc.
A lot of people have "narrow/specialized" intelligence. You do X, Y, and Z, if error, deviate to A, B, C. College degrees, for better or worse, are designed to create "flowchart" individuals reliably, who can be counted upon by employers to follow that learned decision tree.
These types often have very little rounded out general intelligence
I am saddened to learn how many of my friends fall on the left side of the IQ curve.
Instant access to knowledge via the Internet has destroyed critical thinking. Seeking information and building critical thinking skills is also not validated on social media. Being “ethical” on social media is praised. COVID-19 might as well be VIRTUE-19.
Sounds like you are one of them
less than zero .....i know only of one guy on fb who had 'it' weeks ago in UK before any tests were approved and was discharged from hospital home. He is now expounding on 2nd waves etc..........the fact he is over 60 , drinks copiously every fucking day and is obese is neither here nor there
My FIL had it for sure, tested positive and everything. So his wife and grown daughter who lives at home most likely had it too (all had same symptoms). Me and my wife saw them all 2 weeks earlier, we got sick at the same time same symptoms. I tested negative, but I was tested a week after my symptoms went away, I had a hard time getting them to test me. I’m debating getting the antibody test. But I don’t feel like spending $119 when I’m getting less hours, my wife isn’t bringing in money and I got other things I have to take care of.
The panicking woman at work who declared "people are going to die because this company won't let us all go home!!" is a two pack a day smoker still working in her 70s because of a lifetime of bad decisions.
I love how the people so worried about their health and Coronavirus are always the least healthy people.
The people in masks are always fat.
I had it in early December (will get tested when they let me). It was nasty, but since you can get it through your eyes all this mask stuff is bullshit. It's viral load. Two people wearing masks having a 10 minute conversation in an office is enough to pass an infection. A jogger sneezing while running by isn't. For all we know, the virus could be in our water since we know it is found in feces.
The best defense is a strong immune system. Get some sun, take the proper minerals, eat right, get in shape.
There will be no second wave and the MSM/Dems will look like fools. The scary models were based on no natural immunity (bioweapon?), but in reality probably 50% are immune (from similar viruses) and most of the rest will have mild symptoms.
What will be fun to watch is all the pasty white Karens, When they finally do leave home and get exposed to the environment again, the most benign virus/bacteria is going to lay them low,
One of my family members had it in Florida in April. Was hospitalized, placed on the HCQ coctail and went home 3 days later. HCQ works, fuck Fauci.
Every single time I've seen or heard someone anecdotally talk about HCQ, they say it worked.
They are lucky they were able to get the cocktail. Some places aren’t allowing it.
Wonder why? $$$$$
Nah, its not $$$$$ here in NY. Here, its an evil governor doing everything in his power to declare "ORANGE MAN BAD!" for the whole world to see and to make this as bad as it can possibly be.
Eat right, get some sun, get in shape.
All things the left is trying to prevent with this lock down. Gyms were closed quick, same with parks, beaches etc. Now they threaten our meat supply.
Seems they want us weak, scared, sick and compliant.
Soy milk is still available guys!
I’ve been saying for years this whole vegan popularity push lately is to weaken us as a population and make us sicker, but now it makes even more sense...
I’m pretty sure I had it in January( would also like an antibody rest). What was it like? I was coughing up nasty shit for three weeks. It was like a walking pneumonia. I just kept trucking on cold meds cause I had work to do.
Really bad dry cough for a week. I couldn't talk my throat was so sore from coughing. I had a mild fever for one day.
I coughed on my wife the whole time and she never got sick. We are both in our upper 50s
I had pertussis a few years ago. It lasted months. Brutal coughing, so severed a broke my ribs coughing and could barely sleep for coughing fits,
I am not afraid of this virus after battling through pertussis.
I will counter one thing. There probably will be a spike when things re-open. It's inevitable with more people out. Regardless, that should not stop us from re-opening now. We have to return to normal now.
Georgia does not seem to be spiking
That's true. And I'm not saying any spike would be incredibly dramatic like the doomers say. Just a minor blip up. There also would be a difference between rural areas and something like Chicago.
I'm putting myself as skeptical on that. The 7-day running average of new cases hit its peak on April 11th and has been going down since then. Number this morning was 73% of that peak, and that's with reopenings starting to happen and testing continuing to increase. Maybe there will be a small spike, but I really doubt it will get us back to the early April levels.
I’m in Australia ,it’s a frikken scam ! 97 deaths , 500k unemployed, its bullshit
literally the only thing I have been worried about is the economic impact and the impact on Novembers election. from the start.
Yep
I fear the sedition in our country far more than any virus.
I'm thankful for the many patriots standing up to the bullshit. What I fear is vindictive Democrats thirsty for more power and militarized cops ("contact tracers" or "lockdown enforcers" or whatever else you want to call them).
What really pisses me off right now is that my girlfriends work is basically forcing her to wear a mask, but due to her anxiety attacks she suffers from it cannot be done. Her HR department sent her a letter yesterday saying "try to wear it at home to be comfortable with it" as if it a fucking living thing. The HR department also gave her no options on not using it. She thinks the Covid Act takes away her rights which I told her is not true. Neither of us wear masks and she told me she cannot wear it at work because she feels like shes choking so it triggers an attack for her. I am fuckin livid over this and ready to go to battle against her work.
Tell her to stick to her guns and not wear it. She is protected by ADA and HIPAA. Her job cannot force her to wear a mask and they cannot fire her for not wearing it. Plus, there is absolutely zero reason for healthy people to wear a mask. It’s actually counterproductive and could cause her to get sick.
I am not quite familiar with the ADA besides the dentist association. HIPAA as well not familiar with them. I really appreciate the response on that.
ADA: American with Disabilities Act. You can’t be discriminated against because of a disability and you have no obligation to disclose your disability. In her case it sounds like her disability is anxiety and she already disclosed it. Regardless, she is protected. Same reason none of us have to wear a mask. It poses a health danger and I’m not required to disclose to you what that health reason is.
Americans with Disability Act and Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. Not sure how HIPPA plays into but that's what it stands for.
I understand completely! If I put a mask on I'd definitely trigger anxiety. The mask thing pisses me off beyond words.
She doesn't know about the permission slip? https://thedonald.win/p/Ffb07ohO/-print-this-out-if-you-have-an-i/c/
If they keep making her wear the mask, call the reporting number.
Thank you!!!
I'm not back in office yet but it will be interesting to see them try and make me wear a mask. Please show me in the code of conduct and the contract I signed with you when you hired me that says I must wear a mask. OK then, no mask for me.
I can honestly say I’m not afraid of dying from anything (excluding fire and torture). Its inevitable, and the fear of it will have a negative impact on your life. Through this, we have learned that most of the world when faced with a 1/400 chance of dying assuming they even get the virus, are over 70, obese, diabetic, athsmatic, etc, are willing to basically give up everything they love, even personal hygiene.
I dont like restaurants, movies, malls, sporting events, any of the things that are shut down really, i spend most of my free time on the woods, which i have been doing even more of, fortunately.
Masks dont work, and probably further spread disease, and we are being forced to wear them. My governor called us cowards, selfish, and unsafe, for wanting to feed our families. Nothing makes sense, and they want it to be the “new normal”.
Fuck that. This is 1000x worse than taxing our tea, any one have any ideas for july 4th this year? I do.
Oh, and sure i care about the people affected, prob more than they do. My mom is in her 80’s. She went to a fucking fondue party about 3 weeks into the lockdown with her slobbering senior friends. I think shes ready to check out anyway.
We're at about 500 unemployed for every Covid "death", but probably more like 1000 unemployed for every real Covid death. Each one of those unemployed is a life ruined.
The same millenials that wished the boomers would die now are happy that the economy is burned to the ground to save them?
I like you Pede. We would get along well. I frequently hike and the most annoying thing about the shutdown in MN is how many people are suddenly hikers. I used to be the only one out on a trail and now I run across tons of people (wearing masks) when I am out and about. I miss my solitude in the woods.
Yeah the woods have gotten crowded, but i know plenty of trails that are too rustic for most folks. I took my brother and his girlfriend on a hike, and she accused me of getting lost, i laughed and told her that was my plan.
I coached many seasons of travel hockey, and the parents are what ultimately led me to give it up, haha, but im sure you are one of the good ones!
Ha! You are a brave soul to coach travel hockey. The parents can definitely be a nightmare. We leave the coaches alone. We let our kid play and if he has an issue he can talk to the coach himself. We stay out of it. We've also made our boys carry their own bags since they were mites...none of those old lady roller bags for our family!
Keep getting lost out there in the woods. You and I both know that when we get lost, that's when we find just what we need.
Good hockey parents! I had one kid who told me his parents gave him $5 for every goal. So i had him on defense, and he went coast to coast, and scored. So i told him “great you scored a goal, butif you didn’t, you left your position open for them to score. The dad, who incidentally was on disability, but wanted to come out and skate, actually called me at work, bitching about it, and then attempted to align the parents against me. That was the end for me. The more money parents “invest” in a sport, the bigger dicks they become.
That sounds awful. I don't believe in telling a mechanic how to fix my car and I would never tell the coaches how to coach. I just sit back, relax, watch the game and let my kids do their thing. It's too bad so many parents think their 8-year-olds are the next Wayne Gretzsky instead of just letting them play hockey.
I'm at the anger phase. I'm sick of the emotional toll it has taken on my children. I have a senior who essentially lost the best part of high school and I have a kindergartener who doesn't understand fully "why" and is sad because she can't see her friends. It's all bullshit. I'm at the Michael Douglas "Falling Down" phase.
My kid isn't taking it well either. Once we said "Fuck you!" and started visiting others during quarantine we've been better. She's been able to play with her cousins at least.
You know, I was just thinking about what you said about getting the virus on purpose...I wouldn’t know a single person that has it and if I wanted it, I doubt I could get it either. Kind of weird to think about.
if you see the CDC data influenza deaths are at 6.000 while previous years are tens of thousands... They have ruled flu deaths as covid deaths, clearly
Or magically cured the flu!
Maybe COVID kills Influenza-B ?
And cancer! And heart disease!
I didn't allow fear to lead me or my wife. We both continued to live and enjoy life, with closed businesses being the only factor. And the working from home 😎. We shrugged the stay at home BS and went for walks and drives.
Fear makes us stupid.
My family took a cross country road trip and enjoyed a vacation. We are such rebels, I guess. How dare we enjoy life.
Not worried now, and I have weakened lungs (per a doctor several years ago) from several consecutive bouts of pneumonia I dealt with in my 20s. But I've seen the stats, numbers, percentages and know I'm dealing with fraction of a percent chances of it being serious.
That said, when our MSM was more concerned about looking racist, downplaying it, parroting calls to go out and enjoy Chinese New Year, I saw enough signs that all was not well in Wuhan and didn't trust the ChiComs anyway so I began stocking up and encouraging family members to do the same. I'm glad I did. March hit, and I didn't have to join the panic buying when everyone else did.
As new info has come out, it has become evident that this virus is not what it was said to be, and the endless lockdowns have gone from foolishness to evil.
My left-wing dad who I've referred to in past posts is still pushing the line he gets from his daily doses of CNN, still believes this is the new normal and needs to be; in fact he texted last night saying he's come to the conclusion capitalism has run its course and it is our duty to embrace socialism. Must be hard to live with that mindset.
I'm still in a locked-down county - blue island in a red state - but nothing stops me from crossing the bridge to a free county where I've gotten my hair cut, had a beer or two in a bar where no one had masks or sat six feet apart, and I'm FINE. And know I will be.
Fuck. Yep capitalism has run its course by lifting the majority of us out of poverty but this damned virus, need to end prosperity now and huddle in fear in our homes for the rest of our lives. WTF.
I so envy you.
No fear that the Wuhan V poses a mortal threat to me any more than an average year of whatever virus is making the go-round.
H1N1 and SARS are way more dangerous but under Obunghole nobody seemed to give a shit.
Throwing my $0.02 into the ring...I need to get this rant off my chest.
I was out in the country when the fear hit. Went to the grocery store to stock up for a work bee week on land 6 hours away. Everything was normal.
Got home 4 days later, and it seemed everyone had lost their minds. Toilet paper? No where to be see. Beans? Rice? All gone. Talk of sheltering in place and locking down the economy. Big Scary Super Virus was on the way to kill everyone. Get told we need to shelter, to give the hospitals time to ramp up resources and ready bed space - that was entirely reasonable (at the time), so we roll with it.
In the meantime, I start digging about this. Three weeks later, the goalposts shift - now we have to shelter until we find treatments to stop the Big Scary Super Virus. New announcements do NOT fit with the data I'm digging up. I'm smelling a rat, but my friends all think I'm nuts.
I see the results coming out of France from Dr. Raoult; I see the results from other doctors trying the HCQ+AZ+Zn protocol. I see the media and the technocrat overlords immediately disparage Trump's suggestion we look into the treatment as an option. Something's not right.
Our leaders are not acting in harmony with the fear being broadcast by the media. IF this really was the Big Scary Super Virus that was as deadly as promoted, then leadership would not be playing politics with treatments. The best treatment out there would be ushered and given green lights all the way, and they'd be worrying about the double-blind controlled studies after we got past it. Yet, they play pork barrel politics with this as if it's just another day at the office. Anger builds; it piles in on top of the Cold Anger already held in a deep reservoir inside.
The Data is pouring in. The Diamond Princess cruise liner, arguably the worst case scenario for the elderly? Final results are in: a 20% infection rate on a captive, cramped group of aged 55-75+ people, many of which with medical issues. 70% of the infected are asymptomatic; 98% survive. It is not looking like a Big Scary Super Virus...it is not even looking like a severe flu. It is looking like the other 4-5 corona viruses that are human pathogens: opportunistic colds which can take advantage of certain conditions to become flu-like, or even pneumonia.
Fact for the day: As America spread west, we took the common cold with us. The common cold virus family (which includes the aforementioned corona virus colds) doesn't bother us, except for the very weak and immuno-suppressed. But to the American Indian tribes, this cold family was just like the Spanish flu to them - their immune systems had never encountered it. The common colds ravaged every Indian tribe for a couple of years, killing thousands of them, until they built up immunity. Now, it afflicts them like it does us: an annoying disease which makes us miserable for a few days, but we get past it.
So...we have a new Super Cold - because that's really what it is being revealed to be. They tell us we have to shelter in place, locked down until we find a cure or a vaccine. Has anyone ever successfully developed an efficacious (one that really works) vaccine for the common cold? One comparable to the Salk vaccine was for polio? Has anyone done this for the flu?
Then don't be so quick to tell me we getting a vaccine for this Super Cold, MSM. We don't have one for the other corona viruses which afflict us, nor the rhinoviruses; this one will be just as elusive.
We already have an affordable treatment protocol for this disease. Zinc + an ionophore carrier + Azithromycin. All generic or over the counter. The ONLY reason for developing a $1000/dose treatment (which carries all the usual nasty side effects you now expect from Big Pharma) is for monetary gain, at the expense of people's health. One cannot get much more evil than that - putting material gain and power ahead of the value of the everyday human being (regardless of where those humans come from).
I'm being told I need to wear a mask to be acceptable in society. The only place I will be wearing a mask will be in church, where I must serve the fearful. Masks do not filter out virus-sized particles. N-95 masks will catch 95% of particles down to 0.3-0.5 microns. The virus will pass through this quite easily. The cloth masks so in vogue now? That's a joke. There's a reason why you can still smell farts if you're wearing spandex underwear...
All a mask does is catch the sneeze and cough droplets. They do nothing for passive virus shedding, which is the significant majority of contagion for viruses. Yet the media tells us with great urgency everyone needs to be some sort of lone ranger clone? More puppet-master virtue signalling...
Finally, I start comparing notes with others. I find that many of us had infections from mid-December to late January, the symptoms of which are very similar to those of Covid-19. Almost TOO similar to be a coincidence. Then China admits this disease was rampant among them December 1...then they change their story again and say it was infecting their people back in October of last year.
So - it appears that Covid-19 has already been through our population at least once; it explains why the antigen testing is revealing that exposure to Covid-19 is far, far in excess of what can be explained by any first wave infection model. Covid-19 is already in our background cold virus populations. All this fear and lock-down is a couple of days late, and several dollars short, to the party.
Trump was responding to the second wave - and I think he did an admirable job in doing so. He's correctly decided what needs to be where, and took every issue from the Democrat media and politicians. We are on our way to being back on our feet.
This is looking less like a accidental lab accident, and more like a biological hit engineered by the super billionaire's club. They are desperately fighting to preserve their neo-Fascist/Communist New World Order, a work of generations. Literally, trillions of dollars and generations of new aristocratic power are at stake, because the political Left (Socialism/Fascism/Communism) is nothing less than a return to feudalism of the Dark Ages. Same policies, different skins.
Rant over. Carry on.
I don't have fear, but do take precautions. I'm older, have an underlying condition and take ace inhibitors. My very elderly MIL moved in to be quarantined as well.
Given what we know now, the at risk should have taken precautions and everyone else should have gone on as normal. We'd already have herd immunity, and our economy would still be humming along.
This could even be longer...
Wish I could upvote this X 1000... you nailed it.
Concern for my elderly father, because a potentially bad flu was going around. That's it.
The only thing I'm worried about is how this will permanently affect our way of living. 9-11 gave us TSA searches. Now it'll be masks forever to travel? Fuck that.
Where are you going to go with your full tank of gas?
You always keep a full tank especially in the winter.
I drive 0.
My family went on a road trip. Gas was cheap, traffic was great, and we had the entire beach almost entirely to ourselves. It was glorious!
I found three bottles in my cupboard that I have no idea where they came from. I haven't used them. I just wash my hands with normal soap.
Yup. I have good stock of just regular old Ivory soap.
That sounds just like me but not worrying about my steering wheel so much as I drive so few miles. I just use a little hand sanitizer afterward, a tiny bottle, that I had before covid.
If it was just me I don’t give a fuck. The family’s mental health would be better without lockdown. Kids need to see other kids. Adults need to see other adults. We are a social people. Now me on the other hand. I have the internet, I’m good.
I'm in the same boat. I'm an introvert who normally enjoys life at home. I'm also able to work from home, so I'm good. However, for society as a whole, I do worry about their mental and financial well being as we are, by nature, a social species. In short, even though I'm good, this is still bullshit.
I was worried when the virus first got big and we didn't really know what to expect from it. Not anymore. Now I'm angry I'm basically stuck on house arrest over a bullshit cough.
Pretty sure my family had it in December. 2 adults and 3 kids from ages 2 to mid thirties. It was like a slight cold with the exception of my 2 year old who got a fever for about half an hour in the middle of the night. We could tell it wasn't a typical flu or cold but it didn't affect us more than a slight cold.
Yep same with me and everyone I work with. Mild symptoms. Fever for less than 24 hours. Cough that lasted a month.
It hasn’t changed my life one bit other than working from home every day. I still go out every day and do my hobbies. I go to the store. I get dinner. I have to eat it in my car or take it home though. I don’t wear a mask. I ignore whatever stupid orders our governor issues. I go the wrong way down the grocery isle. The main reason I’m not afraid is because I’m a Christian. Death doesn’t scare me. If I die I die. Big deal. People who are afraid of death hide at home, wear masks when alone in their own cars, and slather themselves with hand sanitizer. I refuse to live in fear.
Tell it like it is pardner 😎
Once I did the numbers myself and started looking at the models going out and then running doomsday scenarios, I found the whole thing bogus. I might not be an epidemiologist but I am a biologist and was versed in zoonotics and infectious diseases in schooling then added training down the line for disaster management for my line of work.
The whole thing is bunk. We blew up our economy over something that wouldn't have even killed a percent of our entire population.
I worked 56 out of 61 days. No I'm not scared, but the libtards I work with eat this shit up. One is an Oxford grad. Cowards and fags. And since they could work from home they stayed away. The employees who stayed thank me constantly and they've all been redpilled. They lost Ll respect for the leadership staff as most stayed hidden and took advantage of this falsehood.
I had a different fear, and it’s popped up again. I work in a grocery store. When the initial panic hit and the shelves were absolutely empty, I’d have to mentally reign myself n from buying everything I didn’t need. I had quietly stocked a bit extras, rice, canned sauces, etc., so I was fine for food, but being constantly surrounded by the effects of the panic I would second guess myself constantly.
So it’s happening again with the lockdown. Even with restrictions easing there are still people terrified of going outside! Wearing masks outside! TF is wrong with people?! And again being surrounded by the crazy has me second guessing myself. I’m staying the course but I’m starting to feel crazy.
The only changes I've made is my household income has been cut 70% (wife unemployed, my income reduced to 60%) and I've taken to drinking the rage away rather than loading mags.
I know the virus is real, but that the reaction crafted to it was disproportionate to the actual threat. I've changed nothing.
I will not wear the obedience rag on my face. I didn't hoard antibacterial wipes or liquid. I only stayed home under order. May 4th I opened up my business and am trying to recover.
The only thing that scared me then, and now - is Trump Derangement Syndrome. It has proven more harmful than the Coronavirus itself.
I haven't change my behavior whatsoever. Just been inconvenienced by the dumb asses that panicked from the get go.
I was cautious the first two weeks. Now I literally give zero fucks.
Not any more fear I feel from the flu and that’s not much.
Yup, zero fear for me and my family as well. What's been exceedingly frustrating, though, is that I've been absolutely powerless to convince the normies that there's nothing to fear. I present facts, figures, analysis, even using data directly from the CDC and WHO, who they normally trust. They WANT to be afraid, and argue vehemently against any suggestion that the wolf's teeth aren't all that sharp.
I'm convinced the real crisis in this health crisis is the power of fearful, ignorant crowds that unquestioningly gobble up any and all bullshit the MSM feeds them. Clown world.
Cue sad Pepe.
Exactly. I also think that a lot of the Doomers are chronically bored with their lives (the rampant materialism and toilet-culture leaves one kind of empty) and are engaging in meaning-making by LARPing that they are in the Last Days.
I made a mental note in January that I wouldn't be concerned until the death rate exceeded that of the flu, I also said that I knew the media would ride this fucking horse all the way to the election. Then they started playing with the death numbers, and I knew then my thoughts were correct, they will manipulate the number to create fear and ride this mother fucker all the way to November!
so has cancer, so has car accident, so has medical malpractice and errors, so has prescription drug interference, so has heart disease.
You know what else has killed a lot of people worldwide?
communism.
We need a lockdown for communism.
The media shilling so hard for me to be terrified redpilled me. Never once was I afraid of this stupid flu. I used to be a Dem supporter (brainwashed by MSM) before my eyes were opened by this. Now I’m here and on the Trump train all the way to victory 2020!
It almost killed my dad. I didn't fear for myself, but he was lucky to survive. 74 years old
It's nothing different than any other annual ailment. Do the same thing as you would during cough and cold season every year. Don't go to work, stay home to rest, hydrate, and see your doctor if you aren't able to manage symptoms.
The dems took the common cold and wrecked the economy and unemployment numbers just to make it so the president can't use them in his stump speeches for reelection. That's it.
They unemployed tens of millions of people. Drove trillions into the debt. Stoked fear and panic into everyone. Closed millions of small businesses. Shut down schools. Caused neighbors to spy and hate one another. And they tested out their overreach into tyranny...
Just so they could have a jab at Trump.
Sociopathy.
No fear.
I see the media is now trying to scare us about the children.
I've said this literally since day 1. I did vaccine research in the U.S. Army.
The virus was manufactured by China. There are three signatures in the DNA making it impossible to be natural.
It was manufactured poorly. They basically created the flu.
None of what we're going through was recommended by ANY disease authority like the CDC. It's 100% been manufactured by Democrat governors and the media.
Morgues are not being permitted to hold funerals. This is why some are getting full. Ask ANY mortician. The death rate has remained unchanged. If this were a real pandemic, this wouldn't be the case.
EVERYONE is admittedly falsifying their numbers. Again, in a real pandemic this wouldn't be neccessary.
My wife and I refuse to adhere to any of the mass hysteria. We won't wear masks, throw parties and get togethers every weekend, etc. We refuse to bleat along.
If a store requires masks to enter, they lose our business. If a store remains open and also doesn't give in to the bleating of the sheep, we frequent them.
I've never in my life known the sort of hate and loathing I now have, and forever will have, for the media.
Never wore a mask, didn't change my habits in any way, worked the entire time, wife also worked the entire time. Our lives changed in no way whatsoever.
I used to be terrified of the virus but now I am not concerned about the virus. I am concerned about sinister things going on against the American people using the lockdowns.
We have a vaccine expert on the news this morning telling us that this winter will be the darkest in modern history. Next black plague in other words.
I admit, I was scared when cases started flaring up in other parts of the world, when all we knew about it was what the Chinese government allowed us to know; images of people collapsing in the streets, Chinese healthcare workers crying hysterically in overfilled hospitals, and then seeing similar images in Europe.
Once we started to learn more about it, this fear gave way to disgust with my fellow Americans who were blindly panicking, and stripping the grocery stores clean.