Exactly! Unconstitutional "orders" are not laws by definition. I'm curious to know if people being arrested are going to be tried by jury and for what violations of what specific laws.
they are being tried and judges are tossing them in jail. And people are pulling together fights and appeals to go up the ladder. And in 5 years the Supreme Court may actually hear the case.
No it doesn't, it has supremacy over state constitution as well (many court cases confirm this) but it is a moot point since state constitutions have a similar right as well.
The incorporation doctrine is fictional power grab. The federal (now national) government had now power to do so.. they just did it. And now we accept.
That is very unamerican of you. Thomas Jefferson would flip out.
So, since the BOR originally DID only apply to the new Federal Government, and we all agree that the BOR is a good thing, why would you be against those protections extending down to the State level, especially for those States that restrict certain rights? (Cali/Guns...)
I don't object to states securing these rights as well.
But if the people of the states chose to govern differently that's their choice. I E California could enforce strict gun laws, accordingly to what the California Constitution allows. They could ban guns altogether.
What everyone is missing is Congress has not told you not to assemble.
The media and the state and local government has.
Exactly! Unconstitutional "orders" are not laws by definition. I'm curious to know if people being arrested are going to be tried by jury and for what violations of what specific laws.
they are being tried and judges are tossing them in jail. And people are pulling together fights and appeals to go up the ladder. And in 5 years the Supreme Court may actually hear the case.
The bill of rights apply to the federal government only
No it doesn't, it has supremacy over state constitution as well (many court cases confirm this) but it is a moot point since state constitutions have a similar right as well.
Yes the national courts rule in favor of giving themselves power.. that is why the states must keep the federal government in check.
Ever heard of the 10th amendment?
Supremacy clause is for the powers the federal government was granted from the states.. which were not that many.
Originally, you are correct.
Let me introduce the Doctrine of Incorporation to you.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of_the_Bill_of_Rights
Note that the 2nd Amendment was only recently incorporated to the States in 2010.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._City_of_Chicago
The incorporation doctrine is fictional power grab. The federal (now national) government had now power to do so.. they just did it. And now we accept.
That is very unamerican of you. Thomas Jefferson would flip out.
So, since the BOR originally DID only apply to the new Federal Government, and we all agree that the BOR is a good thing, why would you be against those protections extending down to the State level, especially for those States that restrict certain rights? (Cali/Guns...)
I don't object to states securing these rights as well.
But if the people of the states chose to govern differently that's their choice. I E California could enforce strict gun laws, accordingly to what the California Constitution allows. They could ban guns altogether.
Even if congress did tell me I couldn't I would. GOD GAVE ME MY RIGHTS ONLY HE CAN TAKE EM BACK.
https://www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law
Which is why the 1st amendment also has freedom of religion. Gathering together for worship services is a right. Not just a privilege.
But they say they must violate it in order to preserve it so they can ignore it.
Whet folks keep missing is they will determine that assemblies with infected people, or potentially infected people, are not "peaceful". Just watch.
Did the Founding Fathers foresee that the executive, judiciary and the mob can do what the congress is prohibited to do?
Take a gun to church, freedom of religion, assembly and keeping and bearing arms. The feeling of freedom.
Fuck Wikipedia.