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posted ago by Underthemoniker +22 / -0

Title, really. There are a lot of sensationalist articles trying to say that Trump doesn’t believe in climate change just because he goes against the grain when it comes to spending or overzealous policy. Just looking for a source to shut these people up saying that “Trump doesn’t believe in climate change”

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DeusVult2020 5 points ago +5 / -0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ldNuKZgoA

Climate Change "models" are about as good as Neil Ferguson's "2 million will die of Covid" model

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Nipple_Copter 2 points ago +2 / -0

David Hogg. 2 weeks of that guy all over msm and social media preaching gun control; he convinced me buy another gun. Got a 30-06 named "The David Hogg Special"

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SamQuentin1 3 points ago +3 / -0

The theory is based on computer models that have vastly overestimated temperature changes. We saw an example of how computer models can be wrong with COVID where deaths were projected to be over a million even with good mitigation. I expect temperature rises to very sustainable over the next 8 decades.

The path to renewables is inevitable no matter what policy we follow. In the battle of supply and demand, finite supply cannot compete with infinite supply. At a certain point the market will dictate that renewables are more economical.

The fastest path to renewables is economic growth which will be a catalyst for innovation and demand for energy from all sources, including renewable.

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Jarhead1812 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well said. I know that as soon as it’s economically viable it will take over. Capitalism and the markets will adopt it wholeheartedly.

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TEXinLA 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's called WEATHER...

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Baryonic 3 points ago +3 / -0

What they don't understand is that the entire "green" movement is largely a political scam that feeds tax money into projects that fail over and over again - which are ultimately less sustainable than fossil fuels. Feeding that machine helps nothing.

Then there is the reality that climate has never been static and the evidence that human activity is a large scale driver relies on some poor assumptions about the nature of the atmosphere. The attribution problem is no more solved today than when it was proposed - regarding CO2 --- and the models themselves are not predictive.

But even granting that CO2 can cause climate change - its a logarithmic relationship. As more goes into the atmosphere - it has less impact. The observed Charney sensitivity indicates that doubling CO2 increases the temperature by about 1C. All the other doomsday scenarios are based on the assumption that water will feed back into this loop and cause the temperature to increase much higher.

The Atmosphere of the planet used to have 20 times more CO2 in it than it does right now and there has yet to be a catastrophic warming event on the planet yet. We are currently in an ice age and will continue to be for thousands more years.

So really what you have is a maybe problem and a bunch of solutions to it that really just boil down to centralized economic control - run by Democrats.

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Mad_Hattie 3 points ago +3 / -0

First it was global cooling.

Then it was the Ozone layer.

Then it was melting ice caps and we would all be underwater.

Now it's climate change.

Sending money to the UN does not change the weather. Scaring people that the thunderstorms or snowstorms are their fault seems archaic and third world.

We are supposed to be advanced, why is there a cult who worships the weather?

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Pres_Trump 3 points ago +3 / -0

Just tell them "everyone believes the Climate Changes. There is just a disagreement on why the Climate Changes".

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farfiman 2 points ago +2 / -0

OP, seems this thread has backfired on you .....

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MAGA_mantis 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is climate change, and there is nothing anyone can do about it, especially govt.

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Swampy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well...... it's not real. So how do you convince someone of something that isn't there.

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farfiman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hopefully he doesn't in the context you are thinking of.

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TaggartCiscontinenta 1 point ago +2 / -1

Why do you care? Ask him why he is certain that it does exist. When he says “the science is settled” remind him that science by definition can never be settled and things can only be disproven, not proven. Then walk away/hang up/log out. Save your energy for people who are in the fence

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LoneStarWinner 1 point ago +1 / -0

“You’re right, he doesn’t believe in climate change. Or the tooth fairy. He leaves his beliefs behind and deals with the facts and science to tackle tough issues, going wherever the evidence leads. He doesn’t gut it out based on ‘beliefs’ like all the liberal politicians and media do”.