Wear a mask, they said. Do your part! Shove that dirty cloth mask up your asshoe
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Face masks do not "protect you from the virus", still they can reduce the basic reproduction number R_0.
I don’t think everyone should be forced to wear a mask, but lets not pretend a mask won’t catch droplets that may have a virus clinging to them. A virus isn’t a tiny spaceship that can navigate itself past layers of fibers.
It is a virus concentrator then?
That's good to know, so I will NEVER touch that mask during the hours and hours I wear it, and if I do I will immediately sanitize the hands every single time I touch it.
Then when I come home from a long day of not touching my virus infused mask, I will be sure not to drop it on the counter for a little while until I can get my tongs out to place it in the washing machine or sink. Then its a quick wash of the tongs and counter and I'm finally able to relax, until tomorrow when it starts all over again.
Sorry, but the mask is a placebo, a tool to keep people feeling like they are in control, and a tool to condition people to do what their health care overlords (fascists in disguise) say because it's for your own good.
But don't get me wrong, if you want to wear it and feel good about yourself, please do, you have your right to do so, but I don't think it should be mandated and I also don't think it is effective for what they want people to wear it for.
The proper types of masks, in the proper setting, worn correctly and disposed of properly are absolutely effective at protecting the people wearing it from getting contaminated and from them spreading something from their nose and mouth, but this call to wrap your face in a cotton rag is pure placebo, and is more than likely harmful for different reasons.
Yep. I've got to wear one at work, as it's a company policy now, but I mention to every customer that asks that they do nothing, and if anything they're just providing a moist, warm place for all the bacteria and viruses that we all breathe in and out all day long to breed, right near our faces, but outside of our bodies so our immune systems aren't keeping their populations in check. Not to mention the already well quantified negative effects of restricted oxygen and increased CO2 intake...
You could not be more right. Can't believe so many people on these boards are ok with masks.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/05/social_distancing_is_snake_oil_not_science.html
The fomite risk (from touching objects) is extremely low. You'd need to touch your lips, your tongue or inside or very close to your nostrils to have any chance of the virus getting into your system from touching it. Further, the amount transferred is far less than the amount you are likely to breathe in.
I don't think masks should be mandated - with a few job specific exceptions such as people working in a nursing home. The ideal time frame where masks should have been recommended in public was in the very beginning of the outbreak.
Masks don't stop the risk completely. Like seat belts, they lower your risks. They reduce the amount of virus in the air coming in. Plain cotton masks filter about 50% of viral particles. If you are spending 40 minutes in a room with someone coughing up Chinese coronavirus, it's like you
spent 20 minutes in there- you're still likely to catch the disease. If you're walking by someone that is coughing, that reduction in viral loading may be enough to keep you from getting sick, or allow you to not be as sick from it.
Info on home made mask material testing:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Filtration-Efficiency-and-Pressure-Drop-Across-Materials-Tested-with-Aerosols-of-Bacillus_tbl1_258525804
Some info on viral loading:
https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-questions-about-covid-19-and-viral-load/
Saying masks don't work because someone personally doesn't like them is exactly like leftists saying walls don't work because they don't like President Trump's wall.
Reality matters. We need to get America back to work. I thought I had a link saved on a study showing that the lockdown is no longer protecting people from getting sick, as many of the new current cases are acquiring them at home.
Simple masks are not to prevent the wearer from getting the disease, it is to prevent the wearer from spreading the disease.
Cough in a mask, wipe the inside with tissue paper. The moist bits you see are virus-carrying infection vectors that DIDN'T go out into the environment.
We are seeing more evidence that most people who contract the disease never realize it.
I do not agree that mandatory mask requirements are right, but I can't stand it when ignorance drives a false narrative. Masks help prevent transmission from the infected to the uninfected. This is a fact. It is incontrovertible.
Its not a fact and its not incontrovertible. Its common knowledge among healthcare providers that the best surgical masks are good for about an hour of wear. After that the moisture makes them a wick for for these "moist bits" you talk about. There are many studies about this. You should read them before you talk so confidently about mask. I could make a case they actually increase your odds for transmission.
Sure it can help prevent some transmission from infected to non infected, but i dont think most transmission is done through water droplets in the air. I think it's from hand to face contact. And a mask does absolutely nothing for that, and it can be argued it's worse. Masks are designed for short term use, and you're supposed to either dispose of them or disinfect immediately after using. This is not what's happening. Masks are purely virtue signaling placebo all-show.
Simply put, you are wrong: https://youtu.be/85RcpP9r_Wo?t=119
Much longer version here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcKTzefEJFM
Then there should be evidence to back your statement.
Chill. They prevent the spread if you're infected but they do nothing to protect you from catching the virus from others. So of course they help the overall spread but wearing one if you're healthy isn't some magic shield - it's actually the opposite.
Masks do more harm than good, especially to the wearer. Lots of research out there. Here's one: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
And another one: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200315/Wearing-masks-may-increase-your-risk-of-coronavirus-infection-expert-says.aspx (plenty of sources in there as well).
And another: https://www.technocracy.news/blaylock-face-masks-pose-serious-risks-to-the-healthy/
Thanks I’ll check those out. One concern I’ve heard is about them being like Petri dishes, yet all one has to do is put it open in the dash of a vehicle. On a sunny day in a closed car, any virus of concern would be heated and nuked with UVs
Yeah, my opinion is media know they have us confused on this.
Early on there was a NY doctor on the front lines who basically said you have to be in a contained environment with an infected person who is coughing, etc for at least 15-30 minutes to catch this virus airborne. Basically impossible.
Much more likely scenario is infected person wearing a mask, coughing into it, touching the mask then touching an object and someone comes along after and touches that object.
Just stay home if your sick, coughing, sneezing and don't touch your face! (unless you are 100% sure your hands are clean). It really isn't that complicated.
I think you're missing the point that at the virus' scale, it's like a mosquito navigating through a chain link fence. I don't think that's all that inaccurate. There are such things as microscopic droplets.
Think of a small car trying to get across a big city during rush hour traffic and you'll have much better idea of how filters slow, stop and trap viruses and bacteria. It isn't about the size of the pores in the fabric, it is about turbulence and static charges more than anything else.
We're talking about cloth masks here. I think it's more like thousands of cars trying to get through a 4 lane highway. Yea, it's gonna be congested, but plenty are still getting through.
The mask isn’t intended to prevent the wearer from getting sick. It’s intended to prevent the wearer from spewing virus into the air or onto surfaces.