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Bigsweaties 70 points ago +71 / -1

It's like that all over the country. Wuhan China Kung Flu cases bring federal dollars. All kinds of incentives to lie. These numbers have been muddles from the get go. We have been straight played.

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Thep1mp -2 points ago +3 / -5

It’s literally not, but that’s okay. It’s similar as far as symptoms and mortality.

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PepesCovfefe 2 points ago +3 / -1

How is it not?

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Thep1mp 1 point ago +4 / -3

It’s a different class of virus that works differently. Do you not understand what “literally the same” means?

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PepesCovfefe 1 point ago +1 / -0

You mean like a beta version of a man made lab virus that is less effective than the actual flu?

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EatDirtCommiePinko 6 points ago +9 / -3

It's definitely different, but it isn't the end of the world. Most people do not have any significant difficulty with it. However, for a small number of people, it causes serious problems that haven't been seen together while caused by one disease before (such as the clotting issue that's extremely dangerous, and that is not present with influenza).

However, it is clear that the number of deaths has not warranted the extent of the lockdown and suppressive measures.

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Grief 8 points ago +9 / -1

You're right, it's not the same. If you remove all the deaths that had nothing to do with it then it's less severe than the flu.

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PepesCovfefe 5 points ago +5 / -0

👏 👏 👏

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logicallyevil 1 point ago +1 / -0

Its even "better" than the flu if you really look into it. It has an almost zero impact on children. The flu goes after everyone and spreads like wildfire through kids.

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Paek -16 points ago +7 / -23

I know a few people that have died from this but know nobody who has died from influenza. Our hospital has had 24 deaths from this and usually has 1-2 from influenza by this time. I think it's about 5x worse than influenza. Definatley not worth all the measures taken. But to say it's no different than the flu is hyperbole

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Friendly_B 10 points ago +11 / -1

I know one person who has died from this too, and while I question if he was one of the many "non-Covid" Covid-counted deaths, personally I believe it was Covid / Wuflu. He was in his 80s, trapped in a nursing home, and had a very compromised immune system. I think he would have been safer being allowed to leave the nursing home and being out in the sun.

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TonsOfSalt 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yes, the virus is very good at taking out people who have already exceeded average life expectancy, and lots of states sent positive patients to nursing homes which ensured that happened.

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footinmouth 1 point ago +1 / -0

So with a new virus it is pretty important to know if the person who died had the Kung Flu. Death certificates are not one word either, they list primary cause and complicating factors. It may be weird to have someone who got hit by a bus having their death certificate list that they also had corona virus. However, part of the virus being novel is we don't know what it can do, especially if the person is asymptomatic. Viruses can do weird things neurologically, like rabies causes a fear of water. It could be possible that we see a massive increase in misc accidents with people who are asymptomatic infected because the virus is slowing reaction time.

Now scientists are separating all this data out. Age, gender, race, ect, as well as complications directly related to the virus vs. conditions exacerbated by the virus vs. had the virus (this is where we could see an increase in car accidents for example). This is how scientist and medical staff view it.

The news just takes # of deaths and reports just that. No break down.

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Friendly_B 1 point ago +1 / -0

So this would be why they're changing the official stats? It lends context, thanks.

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Grief 5 points ago +7 / -2

Quick question - was your hospital forcing people on ventilators and if so did you report them for murder?

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PepesCovfefe 3 points ago +3 / -0

Spicy!

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Paek 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your comment is so offensive and retarded that the only way I can reason through your comment is if you are trying to turn people off to Trump and his supporters.

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McFatty7 35 points ago +35 / -0

The same state that's part of a "Western Pact" seeking a $1T bailout, would lie about Wuhanvirus deaths in order to get more Medicare/Medicaid money from the Feds?

Nooooo that's a right-wing conspiracy.

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UpTrump 8 points ago +8 / -0

That's exactly what 0bummer did in his speech to the class of 2020 on national TV today. Way to indoctrinate the children

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Whirlybot 8 points ago +8 / -0

I was channel surfing and came upon this 'show' - LeBron was speaking at the time - I moved on.

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GulagDweller 24 points ago +24 / -0

I personally believe that over 50% of the deaths attributed to the China Virus were from other illnesses or conditions. It's common sense that when the average age of death is in the mid to late 70's, China Virus was not the lead cause of death.

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covfefe2525 14 points ago +14 / -0

You're using common sense? In a pandemic?? Off to the Gulag with you! - oh, I see you're an early occupant...

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Grief 4 points ago +5 / -1

There's no doubt in my mind that this is the case.

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EDDIT_IS_CUCKED 16 points ago +16 / -0

It's almost as though this has been known for at least a month.

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lifeisahologram 15 points ago +15 / -0

Leftists on suicide watch!

"Muh narrative!!!!!"

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Conserve1982 14 points ago +14 / -0

Living is the leading cause of death.

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utfanx2 12 points ago +12 / -0

Looks like Dr. Birx was telling the truth. Dr Fauci was wrong again.

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The_Michael 11 points ago +11 / -0

And if you recalculate the death toll from CO nursing homes, they represent 72% of all Covid deaths!

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covfefe2525 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yup, big distinction, one might even say hyuuge.

For example, more men die with prostate cancer than die of it

(It's slow growing and more likely in older men, who are more likely to have other conditions).

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ColludingWithAmerica 1 point ago +2 / -1

Also coronavirus doesn’t kill people. It makes you susceptible to contaminates in your vicinity. It’s why the symptoms are all over the place. Most likely why it’s death toll so eerily resembles the flu and pneumonia death toll. I wonder what goes around this time of year??? I wonder how this will impact the flu/pneumonia death tolls this year???

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learntocode 8 points ago +8 / -0

It is a deadly virus, but it is not deadly enough to justify the massive over reaction we have had to it. Why is this considered a "right wing" position now?

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SemperFree 9 points ago +9 / -0

Media brainwashing. Dems all working together to frame the narrative. These western governors are also out of control.

Reminds me of the south, that time when Lincoln was President.

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freefolk 8 points ago +8 / -0

I wonder if the pressure to correct the record is coming from hospital workers. The hospital staff,administration,and ancillary workers are beginning to face layoffs right along with the public now that they've turned away elective procedures that pay the bulk of hospital costs.

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Meddlesom 7 points ago +7 / -0

I wonder if socialist faggot Jared Polis considers Heather Perry to be a covid-19 death.

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RuleoVicus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well they did use a non-existent person, Sol Paid, to fearmonger the idiots in Colorado into accepting Red Flag laws.

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Bramble 6 points ago +6 / -0

This should be standard across all states.

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Tonightm01 5 points ago +5 / -0

Say it would be closer to 30% maybe into the high 30s.

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DudeNoOne 5 points ago +6 / -1

They got caught now they are playing plausible deniability

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VoltronGreen1981 4 points ago +4 / -0

Wait until someone investigating Hillary is taken out and they list COVID-19 as cause of death.

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GernBlanston1 4 points ago +4 / -0

Now do New York

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f_bastiat 4 points ago +4 / -0

This really needs to be sorted out. We need to know exactly how many people tested positive that are dead, and then differentiate between primary and secondary causes. I'm sure there will be grey area for many but when you are showing no symptoms and die from your 3rd heat attack, lets be a little more conservative about handing out covid awards.

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RuleoVicus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Doctors, nurses, teachers, police, politicians- no better than the general public.

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Grief 3 points ago +4 / -1

Anyone NOT counting deaths this way need to be charged with fraud.