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Deplora 7 points ago +7 / -0

Also WTF happened in Italy? Absolutely agree, there's more to this than we understand, and I don't think it's because anybody is hiding anything from us. It's just that viruses are complicated and constantly mutating, and people are complicated with a huge variety of genetic and environmental and lifestyle factors affecting their health and their susceptibility to specific infectious agents and their response to specific medications. The weirdest thing is that, very recently, very solid evidence emerged that tobacco smoking has a protective effect against COVID-19.

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snuggs316 4 points ago +4 / -0

two bits re: italy: 1. italy has the largest population of the elderly in europe, many with co-morbidities. 2. generational living.

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Deplora 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, but Italy still doesn't have horrifically bad flu seasons.

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SBOJ_JOBS 4 points ago +4 / -0

Italy is notorious for having high mortality to flu among its large population of elderly.

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Deplora 1 point ago +1 / -0

But nothing like what they experienced with COVID-19.

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snuggs316 1 point ago +1 / -0

i wonder if they're big on 'flu shots? there have been theories that covid was in vaccines. just postulating.