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Gyrfalcon 46 points ago +46 / -0

Got to use a known health improver as a placebo so the differences are minimized. What did they use? Vitamin C.

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what_the_shet 43 points ago +44 / -1

I know it's a hard red pill to swallow, but the science on vaccines is similar except that it's much worse.

  • Pharma is not legally liable for any vaccine injury, you can't sue them.

  • the vaccine injury compensation program (VICP) has awarded $4B in vaccine injury payouts. Who pays into this program? The vaccinated.

  • there has not been any double blind placebo studies on vaccine safety with a true control group of unvaccinated subjects.

  • there has not been any studies done on the effects of taking multiple vaccines together.

I'm not anti vaccine I'm pro safe vaccine I just want to point out more of the corruption in science, it's everywhere; see global warming science.

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Monzie 29 points ago +30 / -1

This is exactly the thing that people will come at you and call an anti-vaxxer for stating. Which is dumb as hell, since it's literally THE scientific position.

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Meddlesom 11 points ago +11 / -0

Things like water treatment and plumbing were the biggest factors in eradicating diseases.

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unmaskedpanda 10 points ago +10 / -0

I’m not anti vaccination either... but critical thinking requires we see a difference between the Polio Vaccine and the Flu Shot.

The former is effective... the latter a crap shoot.

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MedPede 7 points ago +7 / -0

there has not been any double blind placebo studies on vaccine safety with a true control group of unvaccinated subjects.

This could be easily remedied. Take the inert components of the vaccine and do a double blind study. The only response (which may be present with the placebo) should be systemic inflammatory/fever, which is how the body reacts to anything it perceives as a threat.

A different group could be done each year, and longitudinal studies done to see if there are long term effects. The one big problem in a long term study would be finding people who don't normally get vaccines and haven't had them before, that are willing to do the testing and receive the placebo/inert vaccine. Essentially, you would need enough life long anti-vaxxers willing to get a vaccine to prove whether vaccine components are dangerous.

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Gyrfalcon 11 points ago +11 / -0

The FBI raided an outpatient clinic in Michigan, treating people with Whu Flu with IV vitamin C. Closed them down and took all of their records. Don't know who demanded it, CDC or the half wit.

▪ Can't get HCQ for treatment unless you are hospitalized.

▪ Can't get anything else that may the helpful.

▪ Be sure to kill off your most vulnerable population in nursing homes by sending infected patients there.

▪ Inflate the death counts as much as possible.

Terror campaign??

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impera 9 points ago +9 / -0

Amazing, hadn't heard of this specific craziness until now.

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/fbi-raids-michigan-medical-facility-over-allegations-of-fake-coronavirus-treatments/

https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-raids-medical-spa-providing-false-coronavirus-treatments-high-doses-vitamin-c-1499928

https://www.westernjournal.com/fbi-raids-clinic-offers-vitamin-c-shots-fight-coronavirus/

When have police ever attacked doctors busily and effectively treating patients before? What medical expertise do the FBI bring to the table above and beyond actual doctors? Have patients complained (isnt being alive to complain surely a sign that the treatment was effective!), who was the party with standing to justify this action? Is this appropriate in a climate when murderers and rapists are being set free from prisons - doctors are now a greater menace to society than murderers?

It sure looks like organised criminal activity by the FBI to me. Not debating based on facts, on data, on curative rates, on costs of treatment or recovery.. but kicking in doors and menacing people with firearms?

Maybe patients themselves should be armed while attending all medical services.

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Herecomedatpresident 4 points ago +4 / -0

It is really bizarre.

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UpTrump 25 points ago +25 / -0

Modern medicine is so fucked up and corrupt

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ClownTamer 37 points ago +37 / -0

Seems to be the whole reason behind the anti HCQ propaganda. At worst it would seemingly do nothing. It’s a drug that’s been around forever and has been in use for years. It’s not a deadly drug. Trump’s just proven that by taking it. The second Trump touches it, they try to tank it. That, and the fact it’s out of patent, while Fauci dug through and found one that could make them all billions.

You know you’re fucked when you’re actively fucking against something that seemingly helps people actually dying in the rare cases they do from this virus.

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Justhalftheshaft 19 points ago +19 / -0

They treat people suffering delusions about which gender they are with irreversible surgeries that disable their reproductive systems and mutilate the genitals of little boys.

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Bmmammarella 7 points ago +7 / -0

Frankly, its not just our modern systems that are corrupt.

Some approximation of this compromised apparatus has existed for centuries.

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Sumarongi 2 points ago +3 / -1

It’s not just COVID, it’s EVERYTHING, especially AIDS and Cancer (fake diseases)

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doug2 -3 points ago +2 / -5

Next time you get sick just stay home then. Why go to the doctor?

But I can agree lefties have co opted medicine at times, but real western medicine is incredibly effective.

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Johnson 2 points ago +3 / -1

Mate it really is. The system is the best we have right now, and most docs are better than doing your own thing, even with supply shortages.

Much of effective medicine is unavailable from insurance and licensing politics. Docs essentially all ignore this so they can succeed in their reputations, except if they cross the cartel, any investigation can take down any physician not supporting the group. I saw a study a while ago revealing almost every woman who became a physician experience (actually serious) sexual harassment. You essentially must please the authorities like in communist countries to make it, as anyone not keeping their mouth shut is destroyed.