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what_the_shet 43 points ago +44 / -1

I know it's a hard red pill to swallow, but the science on vaccines is similar except that it's much worse.

  • Pharma is not legally liable for any vaccine injury, you can't sue them.

  • the vaccine injury compensation program (VICP) has awarded $4B in vaccine injury payouts. Who pays into this program? The vaccinated.

  • there has not been any double blind placebo studies on vaccine safety with a true control group of unvaccinated subjects.

  • there has not been any studies done on the effects of taking multiple vaccines together.

I'm not anti vaccine I'm pro safe vaccine I just want to point out more of the corruption in science, it's everywhere; see global warming science.

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Monzie 29 points ago +30 / -1

This is exactly the thing that people will come at you and call an anti-vaxxer for stating. Which is dumb as hell, since it's literally THE scientific position.

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Meddlesom 11 points ago +11 / -0

Things like water treatment and plumbing were the biggest factors in eradicating diseases.

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unmaskedpanda 10 points ago +10 / -0

I’m not anti vaccination either... but critical thinking requires we see a difference between the Polio Vaccine and the Flu Shot.

The former is effective... the latter a crap shoot.

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MedPede 7 points ago +7 / -0

there has not been any double blind placebo studies on vaccine safety with a true control group of unvaccinated subjects.

This could be easily remedied. Take the inert components of the vaccine and do a double blind study. The only response (which may be present with the placebo) should be systemic inflammatory/fever, which is how the body reacts to anything it perceives as a threat.

A different group could be done each year, and longitudinal studies done to see if there are long term effects. The one big problem in a long term study would be finding people who don't normally get vaccines and haven't had them before, that are willing to do the testing and receive the placebo/inert vaccine. Essentially, you would need enough life long anti-vaxxers willing to get a vaccine to prove whether vaccine components are dangerous.

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