https://ukranews.com/en/news/703200-international-corruption-and-treason-derkach-unveiled-conversations-of-voices-similar-to-poroshenko I mean, it says more about the Ukrainian guy acting like a lapdog for the billion dollars, but, man, the corruption runs deep. You can listen to them here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb-wPUOUmWE