Nolte: 1 Fact Shuts Down Fake Outrage About Trump & Hydroxychloroquine
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The most powerful man in the world, the president of the united states, also a mega billionaire with access to everything, choose to take it.
To be honest, HCQ is one of the safest drugs around. It's been on the market since 1958. Lupus patients are using it continuously, no problems.
One may argue it doesn't work 100% (but nothing does, flu shots work 30-70%), but arguing its safety is a total reversal of truth.
Almost none and those that got it didn't die.
Per the Brietbart article in this post (and I changed it a bit) sociopathic media "and others", would rather see people die (and we absolutely have seen thousands die who probably would not have if the Left and MSM hadn't told everyone it did not work, if they had simply been prescribed HCQ, Zinc and a Z-Pak early on) of the coronavirus than saved by something Trump supports.
There have been all kinds of articles on the internet in the recent past by doctors around the US and the world, who regardless of what MSM, etc., said, used that combination on their own patients with great success. I have read many of them. IDK why people would just believe MSM, that it doesn't work. MSM hasn't been truthful to us for years, why would they on this subject? I believed the President, but luckily, so did doctors who were interested in trying to save lives.
Its called appealing to authority.
As long as the media can keep pushing that they themselves are a moral authority of Truth. People will not question the narrative that is given to them. That is why the tech firms and media work in concert because it destroys that pillar on which their whole house is built.
If you look at history, at the start of this nation hundreds paper and leaflet outlets existed in the colonies pre and post revolutionary war. Eventually money people started to figure out you could sway public thought through paper and sought to shink the access and distribution. We've seen though through history (the Pulitzer and Hearst spat is a great example), now we're seeing it happen in real time because of the internet has such a large reach. The powers at be can no longer keep the genie in the bottle. So they have to discredit it via logical fallacies.
Like many think, unfortunately, & like I admit I even thought many years ago, "The MSM woulc not lie to us! Would they?"
Honestly it is reinforced in pop culture. Clark Kent and Louis Lane for Daily Planet heavy in the silver age enforced this thought.
Probably why people didnt like Jay Jonah Jameson in Spiderman because he acted against Spidey instead of cheering him on.
Alex Marlow (of Breitbart) is rather dismissive of HCQ. If you call and ask about it, he'll ask where you got your medical degree. It's snarky, though he'll say "I don't mean to sound snarky.", as he does it. Anyway, there are all too many people who don't want HCQ+Zn to be effective, claiming there are no supportive studies.
That's an entire topic of its own, but there are enough success stories that if I find myself dealing with this bug, HCQ+Zn is the first thing I'm going after.
People like the guy at Brietbart, talking like that, I feel is really not on POTUS side in the first place. I believe the President had info HCQ was the best bet from the start, and simply told us. I believed him. Since then, there is a lot of evidence from doctors that it works if people would just look around the internet. Plus, I know someone who takes HCQ for arthritis, and it doesn't cause problems for him. Plus I talked to a guy on here, he is in the medical field, and he had it BAD as did his Dad, and then another elderly man related to someone here. All had CV, all took HCQ and all survived. So I agree with you. First thing I'd take, even if I had to go out of the state to get it prescribed.
Doesn't the Bible say there will be a time when left is right and up is down?
Isaiah 5:20...
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
After being used or 60 years millions of times, all those new researches suddenly started finding HCQ dangerous is so bizarre.
I'd be careful suggesting that HCQ causes no problems. My mom took it for an autoimmune issue years ago and began to go blind in one eye as a result. I'm thinking she was probably an extreme responder, as most medications tend to effect her more than the avg. person.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge advocate for the use of HCQ for autoimmune issues & COVID19 because it appears to work in most cases, at least that I'm aware of. I would just say that it is generally safe when used carefully and conservatively. Being totally black & white about it kind of undermines the legitimacy of an otherwise true statement.
I hear you.
But compared to untested vaccines that is injected into your blood a 60+ year old medication is relatively safe.
For me personally, I prefer sunlight, sleep, exercise and good nutrition as my first line of defense.
I agree with you 100% on this. I would likely recommend my mom take it again if she were to get a bad case of COVID. I'd just be adamant that they titrate the dosage gradually to avoid issues. Shit, I'd probably opt for HCQ over any vaccine that comes out.
Did your mom get a malaria?!?
"average people" don't concern themselves with the 0.00001% of edge cases in casual conversation.
That's what we're having here - casual conversation. If you're going to mandate that every statement include an uncountable number of caveats to cover every potential edge case, then nobody will be able to complete a sentence without collapsing from hypoxia.
You're being rather dickish for "casual conversation."
Any reasonable person would likely want to know what the risks are before taking a medication. To suggest that there are none, or that they somehow only impact .0001% of those that take HCQ is just asinine. When people present HCQ like it is without risks it immediately makes them look misinformed and calls into question their credibility on the matter. That's the case with a massive number of medications, I'm not suggesting anything controversial here.
HCQ is not without risks, and should not be treated that way. THAT SAID, I still advocate for its use in testing COVID19 and autoimmune issues. It works. I think I'm being pretty reasonable here, so chill with the mean girls shit.
Contact Scott Adams. He has a news agency that will pay $1M for a story like that, he says.
You're about as tolerant as the folks on r/politics
Your comment doesn't make any sense.
China told criminal syndicate Media to say its a death poll. Msm happily obliged and cashed the check.
A drug that's been in use for decades all around the world is a "Death Pill" according to idiot Neil Cavuto. The left really needs to do a better job at picking their battles.
Why is that guy even on Fox anymore? He needs to go, along with Wallace and Napolitano.
This. Not to mention he has a team of experts with him every day
He put his money where his mouth is and that’s exactly the type of leader America needs.
The sick thing is, he did the research from the beginning and knew there was a good chance HCQ worked. The MSM and others immediately had to come after him as they do with everything he says, and went further and said it did not work and killed people who took it. In 2005, according to at least one report and article on the internet, CDC knew it was effective against coronavirus. So MSM and others are responsible for killing countless people in this country, not the President, as they have been accusing him of all along.
Can you link to those reports from 2005? Redpilling others is easier with sourced facts.
This is not the original article I had. The original article was not on Brietbart. I am still trying to rescue the original article and study from my stuck "sticky notes". This is similar, I think. I don't like to use Brietbart as a source, only because it is known to be pro-conservative, maybe not as likely to be believed as some other source, but it is difficult to find anything on a "google" search these days, and it does have the Virology report within it, so I am sending these for now. Be sure to look at the links within the articles as they lead tothe actual studies and who did them:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/19/chloroquine-known-as-effective-against-coronavirus-since-2005/
Here is the study from article: https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69
This is another link off of above brietbart article: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/18/malarial-drug-chloroquine-effective-against-coronavirus/
Thank you, I will look through those.
You are welcome. I really wish I had the original article and study. I trusted that one more than just taking this off Brietbart and no way to compare if it is at least the same study. I thought the other one was safe where I put it, and it obviously wasn't.
I will try to find it. Had it market ona sticky. All of my stickies malfunctioned on my computer, says it is a catastrophic failure. IDK what I did, except over load it!!! I might (hope) I put it elsewhere.
Have a link here to an NIH article from 2005:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
Sorry new here not sure if the link will work.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/
Amazing how the news cycle has been reporting this as President Trump just deciding to take drugs that ARE dangerous - thanks Neil "it will KILL YOU" Cavuto. Everyone in the White House is having constant checks with the WH Physician and probably even more than that after some positive cases were identified there.
Wouldn’t they encourage Trump to take it if it could (or “WILL”) kill him?
Pol is doing exactly that.
More like Pol Pot.
If it was a drug that will kill you, no ifs ands or buts, and has no usage medically...why does it exist? Why do pharmaceutical companies make it? Because it aint a street drug, you're not buying it on a corner.
I bet Neil is taking for his MS! I would like to know.
I saw that, it was really a show, he really showed his true colors, and they were DISGUSTING. He should be fired.
Apparently they've been calling Trump fat? I dont keep up with the news (with their news at least) but it's hilarious they do that while they put fucking Stacey Abrams on screen.
Pelosi called him morbidly obese. They are losing their minds.
A reporter just asked Trump his reaction. Trump said he didn't care and Pelosi is a waste of time.
They need to ask Abrams her thoughts on the matter.
Abrams will say to ask a black woman that question means you are a racist.
It's her response to everything.
The crack skeleton calling the President fat, that's rich.
Booze bones, not crack skeleton. Nancy swims her way down the vodka-soda flume to work every day.
Mad Maxine is the crack skeleton.
NPC--MAD.JPG
RUN ORANGEMANBAD.EXE
Confirmed.
Adrenochrome
But I thought fat was beautiful? Isn't that why they’ve pushed attention for plus-size celebrities in these last few years? Lizzo's feeling good as hell, so why is Trump's weight being critiqued?
That does it. No point in keeping up with the daily news back-and-forth's anymore. Let me know when the boog hits.
They called Stacey Abrams a supermodel.
Literally.
We have progressed into "Super Clown World".
Baby got back, three chins, two smoking hot hams, head cheese, party ham...
Who needs two, side-by-side screens.
Stacey Abrams so fat, when she's on a TV screen, its an ultra-wide screen.
They should take a look at the German Minster for Social affairs and public Health. She's probably twice Trumps size but if you comment on her weight and the irony of her being a health-minister you can get pretty much destroyed cause apparently that's fAtShAmInG!!!!
Who here thinks that they don't want to use Hydroxychloroquine because it's out of patent? Raises hand
Who here thinks they don't want to use it because it works?
Given that liberals are invariably wrong about everything... it seems likely.
This is it 100%. Follow the money.
Heard Fauci has some money tied up in alternative methods
Yes
Unironically yes
If someone is stupid enough to consume fish tank cleaner, they had it coming. It would've been a matter of time before they consumed cyanide, since it's naturally found in cherry pits and all that-- so it must be okay then!
They didn't consume it...
At least, the husband may not have consumed it willingly.
The woman who went on media tours claiming HCQ was a death pill used fish tank cleaner to murder her husband.
And blamed Trump.
Wow, didn't know that. I had thought someone consumed it willingly because it had a form HCQ in it. That's even worse if she murdered the husband that way.
Almost like the media disappeared the story when that started to come out. After the lady made the fake news circuit.
She was a deranged, abusive leftist. Hated Trump.
Leftists: My body my choice
Also leftists: RREEEEEEEE
But muh fish tank murderer
tHe ScIeNcE iS SeTtLeD!
Nothing exposes the Left more for the frauds that they are in their pandemic "concens" than their outrage and fight against HCQ. Keep the red pills coming commies.
The man puts his money where his mouth is. That's leadership. He won't sit there and tell you to take a drug he himself won't.
Media on the other hand will tell you to wear a mask all day then take the masks off as soon as the cameras are off. They'll sit there on TV not wearing a mask and tell you that you need a mask.
Example vs hypocrisy right there
This is ludicrous.
This is a drug that is sold over the counter all over Asia and Africa. It has literally been taken by billions of people to treat and protect against malaria, and then lupus and rheumatoid arthritis since the 1940s and is one of the must-have drugs listed by the WHO. The safety profile of Hydroxychloroquine (H/CQ) did not just change after 70 years simply because the President touted it as a possible therapy. H/CQ has been an extremely low risk, commonly prescribed, (world)widely used drug by billions for 70 years.
It is considered safe for children, pregnant women and seniors. Hundreds of millions use it today. If H/CQ were that risky, hundreds of thousands of people in Africa and Asia should be keeling over daily from heart failure thanks to H/CQ. It is FDA approved. If it were truly even remotely a legitimate threat, there would be countless evidence, data and reports of its harm. There is none! According to the WHO (2017); "Despite hundreds of millions of doses administered in the treatment of malaria, there have been no reports of sudden unexplained death associated with quinine, chloroquine or amodiaquine, although each drug causes QT/QTc interval prolongation."
Source: WHO https://www.who.int/malaria/mpac/mpac-mar2017-erg-cardiotoxicity-report-session2.pdf
I mean, if you want to inform yourself and dunk of some libtards, CTR+F "Chloroquine" and read all the parts discussed, several significant sentences, bulletpoints and graphs that back up what we already know - the drug isn't dangerous, it doesn't cause heart attacks or cardio toxicity (confused with the QT interval prolongation), the case in which it was harmful was someone who had preexisted condition AND was overdosing on the drug AND taking it for a very long time. No shit. Tylenol will kill you too if your heart sucks, you eat a dozen of them once a day for a year.
*** Veteran Administration and Dept of Defense use 42,000 doses of this drug The on any given day. “The media has not reported this accurately, The Report (done on HydroxyChloroquine) was not a VA-study, researchers took VA numbers, they were not clinically reviewed, they were not peer reviewed and they did not even look at the various comorbidities that the patients in that study had. (underlying or preexisting conditions).”
I also like this:
Source: https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2020/05/12/nyu-study-looks-at-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-azithromycin-combo-on-decreasing-covid-19-deaths?fbclid=IwAR1_CS-sNNvJrY1m5RYWYWH87OGSw01c9esw2W2wApTtp3qhEQ-bank1dPI
CDC handout for Hydroxychloroquine for malaria. https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/hydroxychloroquine.pdf
Weird, seems pretty safe unless you take it for years.
Says pregnant women and kids can take it.
"CDC has no limits on the use of hydroxychloroquine for the prevention of malaria. When hydroxychloroquine is used at higher doses for many years, a rare eye condition called retinopathy has occurred. People who take hydroxychloroquine for more than five years should get regular eye exams."
Hmmm, doesn't seem dangerous.
Hold up! This is an internet forum, you can't just blithely wander in here and dispense links to factual information.
People come here for passionate invective.
I'm sorry. Hydrochloroquine is a killer.
Okay that's fine but Kavuto
Checkmate drumpfkletard
This HCQ outrage is despicable. The mockingbird media should be ashamed, this drug can help people! Turn off Faux news, they're guilty too (I personally only watch Tucker.. and sometimes Gutfeld for the lulz)
Laura also did a full segment, I think it was the lead story last night with two doctors to contradict the MSM and her own network's BS about HCQ.
You’re going to get a heart auhhh tacccckkk!!! REEEEEE!!!
The CDC says it's safe. https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/hydroxychloroquine.pdf
I've been on a personal prophylactic treatment regimen of zinc and a double gin & tonic daily since the outbreak.
I feel fine. A little tipsy at the moment, but...
Common side effects of Hydroxychloroquine.
All other side effects are RARE.
A Skin Rash
Bleached Hair
Blurred Vision
Decreased Appetite
Diarrhea
Discoloration Of Nail
Discoloration Of The Mouth
Dizziness
Hair Loss
Headache
Itching
Nausea
Nervousness
Skin Discoloration
Vomiting
Sounds better than death.
A couple of years ago, I took HydroxyC for about a full month for arthritis. I got the runs so the Dr. put me on something else.
Could NOT believe the BS the satanic media put out about it to prevent this life saving medicine reaching Covid patients.
arthritis you say? Thats an off label, unproven, dangerous and probably racist way to use it! REEEEEEE
I remember reading a bottle of Aleve (or some other OTC pain reliever) a few years ago and it had severe stomach bleeding as a possible side effect. Took it anyway. Stomach did not bleed, but headache did go away.
If you pull up the side effects of Vitamin C, you'd never eat an orange again.
Hysteria among Trump haters
A lot of these are the same side effects as living in a liberal shithole
I couldn't believe what I was seeing all over Twitter and the media yesterday. I kept responding "Does HCQ not need a prescription? Case closed."
The left loves to say we should listen to "experts" and science. Yet have no problem spewing nonsense on TV to millions of people. Cuvato's bitch ass isn't a doctor. Blue check randos on twitter aren't doctors.
It further showed them all for what they are. Unhinged TDS sufferers that need treatment.
I was starting to think I was in crazy world where I was the only person on earth that rememered this stuff is not OTC.
What the fuck does it matter what anyone says about it publicly? You still need a doctor to get it, and its solely their responsibility.
Truth over facts. Or is it facts over truth? You know, the thing...
LEAD BY EXAMPLE: Trump is the epitome of people first, politics second
If there is one thing that should be taken away from all of this, and it isn't a small thing either is this: If Trump were evil, he would just take the HCQ and not let anyonebe privy to that info, so him and his elite buddies could make sure they can hoard it to have enough for themselves. But he isn't like the other swamp rats who surround him and try to bring him down daily, the same swamp rats who don't give a fuck about the people they are supposed to work for, but think they rule over them instead.
Trump is a true leader. He may not be perfect, no one is, but he actually gives a shit about the people of this country and is selfless in the task.
Unrighteous indignation. Lying Fake News.
My Dr today said they aren’t prescribing it to covid patients and my Dad’s Dr told him the same thing last week. He stated that the studies have all been completed and concluded that it’s more dangerous than beneficial. I told him to find another Dr. If anyone knows of any informed doctors in Omaha, please let me know.
Well said
This is kept on the downlow in healthcare systems, but it is prescribed ALL THE TIME. I can't blame anyone for keeping it quiet with the hysteria rn.
St. Shrill of the Joyless Harpies. My sides! We’re writing comedy now 😂
Gotta love Nolte. Shoved it right up dem soc asses sideways.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Did the Florida judge put an injunction against Trump taking it yet?
What is this clown world bullshit where a drug that’s been widely used for decades is now going to kill you.
Can't ignore the glaring double 'Instead' in the last sentence..
Doctors prescribe it for leg cramps.