Most teachers don't have the whole Summer off- there are mandatory inservices and continuing education seminars to attend. They're usually unpaid and they're 2-3 weeks long. M-F, from 8am to 4pm. There are other responsibilities teachers have that is outside the scope of teaching-- things such as lunch duty and bus duty.
Many of the after school activities that are run by teachers don't include compensation. And if they do-- it's usually a small stipend relative to the amount of hours put in.
People seen to forget that. And they seem to confuse payment in the summer is simply how they want the checks cut for their salary, either 12 months or 9. Kinda rough when you spend all that money on the required education, and you have a job that really on pays for 3 quarters of the year, and you generally arent compensated for any hour over 40 in a given week.
That's because even with unions, a sizable number of public school teachers are too inept at business dealings to receive fair compensation for their work. Even those who are great at business dealings are stuck in a system where so many of their peers aren't and that always depresses wages.
Pro-tip: when you willingly put all this extra unpaid time in "for the children" you aren't actually doing it for the children... you're doing it so the administration can save a buck. And in some cases you're doing it so they can put that buck in their pockets or their friends pockets.
Inconvenient fact: proper education costs way more than anyone is willing to admit. Education for the masses ought to become a charity again. The catholics, and especially the jesuits, have it right. We should be willingly funding charitable education for the masses because if we don't do it, the government will continue to do it for us.
We need to start asking ourselves: can we afford to allow public schools to continue to indoctrinate people with no viable alternative.
That's the argument you're making. I just dislike the absolute fetishization of the profession. You'd think it was literal torture by how people act, but almost all of the things they complain about are common to most professions. That's why people get annoyed.
But sometimes they work outside their hours like every salaried person
Most teachers don't have the whole Summer off- there are mandatory inservices and continuing education seminars to attend. They're usually unpaid and they're 2-3 weeks long. M-F, from 8am to 4pm. There are other responsibilities teachers have that is outside the scope of teaching-- things such as lunch duty and bus duty.
Many of the after school activities that are run by teachers don't include compensation. And if they do-- it's usually a small stipend relative to the amount of hours put in.
Why don't you teach then? It's easy, amirite?
People seen to forget that. And they seem to confuse payment in the summer is simply how they want the checks cut for their salary, either 12 months or 9. Kinda rough when you spend all that money on the required education, and you have a job that really on pays for 3 quarters of the year, and you generally arent compensated for any hour over 40 in a given week.
That's because even with unions, a sizable number of public school teachers are too inept at business dealings to receive fair compensation for their work. Even those who are great at business dealings are stuck in a system where so many of their peers aren't and that always depresses wages.
Pro-tip: when you willingly put all this extra unpaid time in "for the children" you aren't actually doing it for the children... you're doing it so the administration can save a buck. And in some cases you're doing it so they can put that buck in their pockets or their friends pockets.
Inconvenient fact: proper education costs way more than anyone is willing to admit. Education for the masses ought to become a charity again. The catholics, and especially the jesuits, have it right. We should be willingly funding charitable education for the masses because if we don't do it, the government will continue to do it for us.
We need to start asking ourselves: can we afford to allow public schools to continue to indoctrinate people with no viable alternative.
It's not sometimes. It's M-F. If being a teacher is so fucking easy, why don't you do it? Why complain about it?
Private schools exist.
Because I'm not interested. Let's turn it around-- why don't they do something else?
Why should they? That's a pretty stupid argument. Most teachers are hardworking and care about their students. But you won't hear about that.
That's the argument you're making. I just dislike the absolute fetishization of the profession. You'd think it was literal torture by how people act, but almost all of the things they complain about are common to most professions. That's why people get annoyed.
So, no schools at all got it
Maybe even easier. Teaching these days is just reading off some computer slides.