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I think we both know they already have it and have had it the entire time. This whole farce is just to let them use it in court. If I'm not mistaken, plan B is to have it leak out through the media. I'm sure some trusted media allies already have it and are thinking about stories.
As you can see, I really don't trust them at all. They're probably saving this ammo until closer to the election.
I bet they have Trump's taxes, etc. too and have been looking for any way to get him on those items, given how "Reality Winner" & co. were doing all that research in the treasury department and given how Obama had an entire IRS program dedicated to going after people he disliked politically.
Normies have been red pulled like crazy lately by corona virus. The lefties to some extent they to. With that said, it's the 80% of Democrats who would buy it at this point.
But the msm is already mostly irrelevant at this time. Do you really think the american public in general is going to stand for yet another impeachment farce before the election with everything else going on and Trump still gaining popularity? I mean sure the D's will be like "I'll fuckin do it again!!!" like a crazed goofy but it won't go anywhere. As long as the reopening goes mostly smooth and there are signs the ecomony is recovering Trump has it in the bag. Hell I think he has it in the bag now as long as we go out and vote and get everyone we know and everyone they know to vote. Thats our only real power.
Yes & no. If we get an honest vote, sure, but they have a ton of plans to cheat.
The real trick is being able to research fast enough to stop their lies and then spreading that info rapidly. That's why they're so against memes, good ones are more viral than the fake news MSM.
Not everyone is yet burnt out enough on fake news to reflexively disbelieve it, after all.
Sure they have plans to cheat but those are not going to work on a national election as the sure fire and battleground states won't be doing the mass mail in voting. Those blue states like california are doing it to keep their state leadership in power and any sway of the national vote was already built into Trump's campaign strategy.
A very good point and what you say illustrates the legal fight over this. I'm just trying to point out that we have good reason to suspect that they're slimy weasels and so they've already leaked this far and wide.
Lord knows, they did so with every other thing we know about. Not that anyone here will be surprised by DemocRATiness, but sometimes it bears repeating.
All the press needs is the lie, not the truth. This is why anything negative they say spreads across their herd like the Chinese flu. The truth leaks out slowly afterwards. They're complicit in the worst way.
Guys and gals, we're in for some hard times regardless of Trump winning in 2020. They hate us and since they control vast swaths of information, they will continue the same path. It would take a cataclysmic "awakening" to change them but that won't happen. Sorry to be a pessimist but that's reality. I fucking hate these words but the boogaloo is coming whether we want it or not. They HATE us and no amount of reason is going to change that.
Jane, you ignorant slut. Bagged-out, dried up slunk meat like you and Michelle Triola know the rules: if you want a contract, sign on the dotted line. Oh, but let's all shed a tear for poor Michelle Triola. There was only testimony that she had had sexual intercourse over forty times with another man while living with actor Lee Marvin. But I suppose that sort of fashionable promiscuity means nothing to someone like you, Jane, who hops from bed to bed with the frequency of a cheap Ham Radio. But Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, and Michelle Triola, like a screeching, squealing, rapacious swamp sow, is after actor Lee Marvin's last three million dollars. I guess what you and Michelle Triola are saying is, while you're on your backs, the meter's running. Well, please spare us galls, and tell us the rates at the top. Then we can choose which two-bit parts and bargain basement sluts to shack up with.
Obama's IRS (the one that targeted right wing non profit groups) had access to Trump's returns. I guarantee that anything bad in them would have leaked a long time ago.
Yeah, but I wrote the headline a little too quickly, then went back and realized that I wrote that like it was a ruling on the merits. This is an important win, but not the last word, and I couldn't edit it at that point, so I wrote this to avoid misleading anyone.
Actually, a stay is only granted when the judge agrees that a petitioner is likely to win the case on the merits. If the judge didn't think this case would go this way, the judge was honor-bound not to issue a stay.
I agree with you, but a stay in this case means a likely although not certain win in the actual court case.
That's an excellent point, too, though in theory, they could be iffy on the case and just issue the stay because the harm would be irreparable (i.e. you can't make the material secret again).
Yeah, that's why I wrote a correction to my own headline after the fact, it sounded too much like this was final. It's not, it's only the first step.
This is a stay granted while the appeal is being heard by the Supreme Court. First they issued the stay, preventing release of the info. Next comes a petition for a writ of certiorari. This is to ask them to actually hear the case on the merits and give a yes or no. The Supreme Court has limited jurisdiction, so they do not hear all cases appealed to them. They deny most petitions. In this case, there's not much reason to grant the stay if they plan to deny cert, so they're likely to hear the case and rule as they see fit.
Either a ruling or later denying the petition for a writ of certiorari would be the end of this. Currently, it is on appeal to the Supreme Court. Obviously, there's no court above the Supreme Court to appeal to.
It's encouraging because they probably wouldn't bother to issue a stay at all if they didn't plan to deny the info. They generally only take cases when they either want to resolve a circuit split--where one group of courts does one thing and another does the other--or when they want to reverse the ruling of a lower court.
There are no guarantees, but they could have just ignored this entirely if nobody on the court wanted to put a stop to it. And they usually ignore any case they do not wish to bother with.
Also it's not false, it just can be read to sound more final than it is.
They have been denied and there are good reasons to expect them to continue to deny this info to Nadler and no good reason to hear this if they weren't planning to rule against him later.
Seriously, all this nonsense is from the 2016 election. Get bent fuckers and take the loss. You fucked around during this entire administration and wasted time. Go away.
Judicial system as a whole be like "omg deep state will you PLEASE stop making all these stupid motions!" except for Sullivan who is all "omg deep state I'm your #1 fan!"
Just found this clip of him saying in 1998: "The effect of impeachment is to overturn the popular will of the voters as expressed in a national election. We must not overturn an election and remove a president from office except to defend our very system of government or our constitutional liberties against a dire threat"
He wants that grand jury info so he can get Trump impeached again.
Does anyone else find it ridiculous they want to impeach GEOTUS AGAIN 6 months before the election? How ridiculous. They’re obviously grasping at straws and continually just trying to weaken GEOTUS.
This is why Justice Kavanaugh confirmation was so important. And the next one as well. The corruption of the judicial branch for political purposes is wide and deep. FISA court with Contreras, the 9th Circuit, that Hawaiian judge, Judge Sullivan, Judge Amy Berman etc. etc. Roberts does nothing and remember his role in Obama care. Can’t rest a minute.
Yeah, if the DC Court of Appeals assigns a cuck, this could take a while and the optics of the Supreme Court smacking it down would probably make them try to impeach Kavanaugh or something.
Actually they'll probably do that anyway if they ever get the chance...
The Supreme Court will take the case and give a final verdict on whether or not they can have this. They will not get the material until and unless the Supreme Court says so.
That said, as mentioned, I'm pretty sure they already have it and merely want to use it in various court cases.
Good point, you're right that they have to grant cert and then take it. That said, one of the rules for accepting the stay is that the petitioner has a good chance on the merits of prevailing in the case.
So it's hard for me to see them granting a stay and denying cert, even if it could technically happen.
I'm thinking there might be intel damaging to the Obama/Biden Administration which further BTFO "Muh Russia" so this is actually a low-key win for the Dems
Good. If they would have granted it, Grand Juries would be irrelevant.
I think we both know they already have it and have had it the entire time. This whole farce is just to let them use it in court. If I'm not mistaken, plan B is to have it leak out through the media. I'm sure some trusted media allies already have it and are thinking about stories.
As you can see, I really don't trust them at all. They're probably saving this ammo until closer to the election.
I bet they have Trump's taxes, etc. too and have been looking for any way to get him on those items, given how "Reality Winner" & co. were doing all that research in the treasury department and given how Obama had an entire IRS program dedicated to going after people he disliked politically.
Agree, but leaked documents are not admissable in court, as there is no chain of custody or proof of accuracy... Even more so for impeachment
We're not worried about court as much as the media smears they'll lay on thick to the normies.
Normies have been red pulled like crazy lately by corona virus. The lefties to some extent they to. With that said, it's the 80% of Democrats who would buy it at this point.
nah, I checked plebbit, they're still sheep
But the msm is already mostly irrelevant at this time. Do you really think the american public in general is going to stand for yet another impeachment farce before the election with everything else going on and Trump still gaining popularity? I mean sure the D's will be like "I'll fuckin do it again!!!" like a crazed goofy but it won't go anywhere. As long as the reopening goes mostly smooth and there are signs the ecomony is recovering Trump has it in the bag. Hell I think he has it in the bag now as long as we go out and vote and get everyone we know and everyone they know to vote. Thats our only real power.
Yes & no. If we get an honest vote, sure, but they have a ton of plans to cheat.
The real trick is being able to research fast enough to stop their lies and then spreading that info rapidly. That's why they're so against memes, good ones are more viral than the fake news MSM.
Not everyone is yet burnt out enough on fake news to reflexively disbelieve it, after all.
Sure they have plans to cheat but those are not going to work on a national election as the sure fire and battleground states won't be doing the mass mail in voting. Those blue states like california are doing it to keep their state leadership in power and any sway of the national vote was already built into Trump's campaign strategy.
What state do you live in? Hardly anyone wears a mask where I live and its a red state.
A very good point and what you say illustrates the legal fight over this. I'm just trying to point out that we have good reason to suspect that they're slimy weasels and so they've already leaked this far and wide.
Lord knows, they did so with every other thing we know about. Not that anyone here will be surprised by DemocRATiness, but sometimes it bears repeating.
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All the press needs is the lie, not the truth. This is why anything negative they say spreads across their herd like the Chinese flu. The truth leaks out slowly afterwards. They're complicit in the worst way.
Guys and gals, we're in for some hard times regardless of Trump winning in 2020. They hate us and since they control vast swaths of information, they will continue the same path. It would take a cataclysmic "awakening" to change them but that won't happen. Sorry to be a pessimist but that's reality. I fucking hate these words but the boogaloo is coming whether we want it or not. They HATE us and no amount of reason is going to change that.
If their October surprise consists of more Muh Russia, I don't think that's gonna have a lot of traction
Muh Belarus! Third times the charm!
Muh Baltic States! Muh Eastern Bloc! Muh Iron Curtain! Muh Jane Curtain!
Jane, you ignorant slut.
If I'd been around when your mother was carrying you, not only would I have paid for the abortion, I would've performed it myself.
Jane, you ignorant slut.
Jane, you ignorant slut. Bagged-out, dried up slunk meat like you and Michelle Triola know the rules: if you want a contract, sign on the dotted line. Oh, but let's all shed a tear for poor Michelle Triola. There was only testimony that she had had sexual intercourse over forty times with another man while living with actor Lee Marvin. But I suppose that sort of fashionable promiscuity means nothing to someone like you, Jane, who hops from bed to bed with the frequency of a cheap Ham Radio. But Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, and Michelle Triola, like a screeching, squealing, rapacious swamp sow, is after actor Lee Marvin's last three million dollars. I guess what you and Michelle Triola are saying is, while you're on your backs, the meter's running. Well, please spare us galls, and tell us the rates at the top. Then we can choose which two-bit parts and bargain basement sluts to shack up with.
One challenge they'll have in doing this is, VSGDRPOTUS isn't your regular politician.
This is a billionaire businessman. He has the means to litigate people into ruin.
Obama's IRS (the one that targeted right wing non profit groups) had access to Trump's returns. I guarantee that anything bad in them would have leaked a long time ago.
they should be irrelevant
Just to clarify things a bit, this is a stay granted while this is appealed rather than a ruling on the merits. That will come later.
That said, even the fact that they've granted a stay here is encouraging.
Celebrate every win... and dunnuh forget to tell yer ma ye love’er.
Yeah, but I wrote the headline a little too quickly, then went back and realized that I wrote that like it was a ruling on the merits. This is an important win, but not the last word, and I couldn't edit it at that point, so I wrote this to avoid misleading anyone.
Actually, a stay is only granted when the judge agrees that a petitioner is likely to win the case on the merits. If the judge didn't think this case would go this way, the judge was honor-bound not to issue a stay.
I agree with you, but a stay in this case means a likely although not certain win in the actual court case.
That's an excellent point, too, though in theory, they could be iffy on the case and just issue the stay because the harm would be irreparable (i.e. you can't make the material secret again).
Supreme Court does not get its decisions appealed
Further coverage of this story on The Conservative Treehouse:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/05/20/supreme-court-blocks-house-democrats-from-mueller-grand-jury-material-pending-doj-application-for-writ/
Appealed?
This is the Supreme Court, dude. The fuck are you talking about?
It's being appealed to the Supreme Court, i.e. they still have to file a petition for a writ of certiorari.
Headline says “Supreme Court tells Nadler to get bent - grand jury info denied”
Yeah, that's why I wrote a correction to my own headline after the fact, it sounded too much like this was final. It's not, it's only the first step.
This is a stay granted while the appeal is being heard by the Supreme Court. First they issued the stay, preventing release of the info. Next comes a petition for a writ of certiorari. This is to ask them to actually hear the case on the merits and give a yes or no. The Supreme Court has limited jurisdiction, so they do not hear all cases appealed to them. They deny most petitions. In this case, there's not much reason to grant the stay if they plan to deny cert, so they're likely to hear the case and rule as they see fit.
Either a ruling or later denying the petition for a writ of certiorari would be the end of this. Currently, it is on appeal to the Supreme Court. Obviously, there's no court above the Supreme Court to appeal to.
It's encouraging because they probably wouldn't bother to issue a stay at all if they didn't plan to deny the info. They generally only take cases when they either want to resolve a circuit split--where one group of courts does one thing and another does the other--or when they want to reverse the ruling of a lower court.
There are no guarantees, but they could have just ignored this entirely if nobody on the court wanted to put a stop to it. And they usually ignore any case they do not wish to bother with.
Does that clarify things better?
It would clarify things better if you deleted your post and reposted with a headline that isn’t false.
It's way too late for that and there's no edit.
Delete the post and make a new one.
It’s never too late to stop spreading misinformation.
Also it's not false, it just can be read to sound more final than it is.
They have been denied and there are good reasons to expect them to continue to deny this info to Nadler and no good reason to hear this if they weren't planning to rule against him later.
Seriously, all this nonsense is from the 2016 election. Get bent fuckers and take the loss. You fucked around during this entire administration and wasted time. Go away.
L
And prepare themselves for another one in 6 months.
That's "get bent" figuratively. It's hard to bend a medicine ball. Or an acorn... 🤣
GET REKT DOUGHBOY
Kek.
Doughboy.
Fuck you penguin
Judicial system as a whole be like "omg deep state will you PLEASE stop making all these stupid motions!" except for Sullivan who is all "omg deep state I'm your #1 fan!"
Just found this clip of him saying in 1998: "The effect of impeachment is to overturn the popular will of the voters as expressed in a national election. We must not overturn an election and remove a president from office except to defend our very system of government or our constitutional liberties against a dire threat"
He wants that grand jury info so he can get Trump impeached again.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4819347/user-clip-1998-jerry-nadler-the-effect-impeachment-overturn-popular-voters-expressed-national
He already informed the Supreme Court that they were going to do another impeachment over Flynn & Manafort cases.
They're trying to run out various clocks to escape from the spying they did.
Does anyone else find it ridiculous they want to impeach GEOTUS AGAIN 6 months before the election? How ridiculous. They’re obviously grasping at straws and continually just trying to weaken GEOTUS.
It was ridiculous the first time. After that it just becomes even more of a joke.
Speaking of morbidly obese
I love it when needle dick fails.
Back to the drive through Nadler.
“We need it for our ‘judicial proceeding’!”
Maybe you fucking idiots shouldn’t have pushed through an impeachment that’s already been defeated in the Senate, then?
Moot.
They're starting another impeachment. Yeah, I know, right? But they'll probably try to twist that around further.
Oh sweet sassy molassey!!
PRAISE KEK
Delayed, not out of the woods yet, at least how I am reading it.
Hey Nadler, stick your head in your ass and eat your way out.
BBBBWWWAAAAWWWWW!
I gotta be honest, I don’t think Nads can bend over.
I read the decision. It said "Get bent, Jerry." That was it.
This is why Justice Kavanaugh confirmation was so important. And the next one as well. The corruption of the judicial branch for political purposes is wide and deep. FISA court with Contreras, the 9th Circuit, that Hawaiian judge, Judge Sullivan, Judge Amy Berman etc. etc. Roberts does nothing and remember his role in Obama care. Can’t rest a minute.
I doubt his midsection is capable of bending.
Morbidly Denied?
Is "No-dom" a new fetish yet to be recognized? At this point it must be because the Dems love doing shit where they get told "No" repeatedly.
Man, I hope so. I actually submitted a long rant about that earlier today -
https://thedonald.win/p/Fftn1wYh/the-embarrassing-amicus-brief-su/
Yeah, if the DC Court of Appeals assigns a cuck, this could take a while and the optics of the Supreme Court smacking it down would probably make them try to impeach Kavanaugh or something.
Actually they'll probably do that anyway if they ever get the chance...
lol...how many people upvoted this solely because they read Nadler get bent...lol
Yeah its not happening (knock on wood). They are just trying to get material for election smears.
Well, not completely, it was delayed for a period for the administration to make a case.
Skadoosh. Get rekt fatty mc lard ass.
The Supreme Court will take the case and give a final verdict on whether or not they can have this. They will not get the material until and unless the Supreme Court says so.
That said, as mentioned, I'm pretty sure they already have it and merely want to use it in various court cases.
There was nothing useful in Russiagate, either, but that never stopped them from wasting years on it...
Good point, you're right that they have to grant cert and then take it. That said, one of the rules for accepting the stay is that the petitioner has a good chance on the merits of prevailing in the case.
So it's hard for me to see them granting a stay and denying cert, even if it could technically happen.
Nadler hasnt exploded yet?
I'm thinking there might be intel damaging to the Obama/Biden Administration which further BTFO "Muh Russia" so this is actually a low-key win for the Dems
Democrat. The party of crime.
Nipples protruding DISGUSTING!
You can't bend a sphere
Good work by our boys in the supreme court
Good.
What's the house's stupid argument for wanting this information anyway?
They want it so that they have evidence to impeach Trump. Yeah, I know...
The Penguin is not happy.
No, but it should be.
Footage of old Nads waddling back to share the news with House Dems
Please no, Jerry, don't do it. If you get bent, you'll split a seam and the gravy will come out.
Good. They should have.
The fall of Humpty Dumpty continues.
Drown your sorrows in a nice big milk shake Nads