You have to make changes incrementally. First you deregulate birth control so anyone can purchase it in a drug store. Then withdraw federal funds for abortions. Then limit abortion to the first trimester.
Since this was never law, but a terrible SCOTUS ruling, the proper terminology is REVERSE ROE vs WADE. But I absolutely agree with the concept.
I remember well the original ruling. It was all about trimesters with unfettered abortion only in the 1rst trimester, almost none in the 3rd trimester and abortion for cause in the 2nd. The proverbial slippery slope has now expanded it to new borns after botched abortions.
We might as well follow the trend and make abortion extend throughout life. It would certainly make honoring your mother a much higher priority.
No need to even reverse it - since it is not a law, as you say.
I don't trust Roberts so maybe that is why they wait. But the moment they think they can get it...start operating like RvW never happened. Start arresting for murder. It will then be re-challenged in court.
It seems only logical that a mother should be able to sit down and have a serious talk with their therapist and decide if it's right for her to abort her young adult child who is still living at home. I'm not a doctor, but is a home really all that different than a uterus?
They wouldn't survive outside of the home, just like how they wouldn't survive outside of the womb. Strictly speaking probably no adults would survive in the womb so maybe anyone can be aborted. It all gets very complicated.
The details of the original ruling would be progress toward a permanent compromise, but why did SCOTUS have to do it instead of Congress or just ordinary citizens running on pro choice platforms?
Its insane that a society would support the killing of future generations. Do you know how many American citizens were killed by the Supreme Court's decision?
More than 52,000,000
To put that into perspective:
It is 15% of today's US population
It was reached the minimum estimated deaths from World War 2
It surpasses the total death of the Spanish Flu.
If the population of New York City and Los Angelos was wiped out with not a single survivor, the deaths would only be a fraction of total deaths from abortion.
Go to Google Maps and try to place yourself at the center of a circle. Then take that circle and expand it until 52 million people are within this circle. Now imagine you woke up and found that everyone within this circle was dead. No survivors regardless of who has what. Your neighborhood, community, parish, and nearby cities are completely devoid of life. In order to find another living soul, you will have to make a trip to the edge of the circle but everything within the circle would be desolate and devoid of life.
Most importantly, within that circle is everyone who would be here today as they too would have a life of their own and would have been a part of some community. Perhaps they would have founded a famous restuarant chain or invent some ground breaking technology or just lived a quiet life but we would never know because they were killed.
What's even worse is that they were never baptised and all the abortions were the deaths of the unbaptised. All those responsible will have a lot to answer for. I would not want to be anywhere near the unrepentant judges that ruled for abortion when the Day of Judgement comes.
What's even worse is that they were never baptised and all the abortions were the deaths of the unbaptised.
Read these verses and see what the Word of God says about this.
God knows us from the time we were formed-
Psalm 139:13–16
13 For You formed my inward parts;
You covered me in my mother’s womb.
14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Marvelous are Your works,
And that my soul knows very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.
And in Your book they all were written,
The days fashioned for me,
When as yet there were none of them
David, the author of the Psalm, had this to say about a child of his who just died.
2 Samuel 12:23
23 But now he is dead, wherefore (why) should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.
Here David admits he doesn't have the power to bring back his son, and that he will never return, but, one day, David would die and go to him.
God died for all of us, including those who didn't make it outside of the womb. We are all sinners, but it's possible these children are included in the first fruits of the Resurrection.
It has been discussed and put to rest for ages. Your verses aren't related to salvation of the unborn or childrent but here are three sources showing that age is irrelevant.
12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.” (Genesis 17:12-14)
Of course now we have a new Covenant and baptism has accompanied the new Covenant in the same manner as circumcision in the old Covenant.
[5] Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3:5)
Council of Trent, Catechism of Trent
Besides, it is not to be supposed that Christ the Lord would have withheld the Sacrament and grace of Baptism from children, of whom He said: Suffer the little children, and forbid them not to come to me; for the kingdom of heaven is for such; ° whom also He embraced, upon whom He imposed hands, to whom He gave His blessing.
Moreover, when we read that an entire family was baptised by Paul, it is sufficiently obvious that the children of the family must also have been cleansed in the saving font.
Circumcision, too, which was a figure of Baptism, affords strong argument in proof of this practice. That children were circumcised on the eighth day is universally known. If then circumcision, made by hand, in despoiling of the body of the flesh, was profitable to children, it is clear that Baptism, which is the circumcision of Christ, not made by hand, is also profitable to them.
And yet, the thief on the cross was saved. And, to list all the times God is merciful in the Bible, and forgiving, and judges by the heart - I think the point is made.
How about this. Let's just nip the whole thing in the bud. Any company or organization that accepts money from the US Government is unable to donate to any political party or candidate until that money is paid back. Make it retroactive, for good measure. And similarly, any company or organization that has donated to politics is unable to receive government money. Individual employees and executives may still do what they will with their own money, of course, but I think requiring more transparency in how these groups spend any money received from the government might help in reducing any attempts to end-run around the above plan and continue laundering money to the political parties.
Even if someone thinks that first term abortions should be legal and endorses the abortifacient Plan B, Planned Parenthood is still an extremely corrupt corporations. It's literally the McDonald's of abortions with lower quality workers, less standards and chock full of greed and lies. Planned Parenthood is an evil corporation.
That’s exactly what I think. My problem is NOT with early abortion; it’s that a giant corporation/nonprofit gets taxpayer money, funnels to campaigns, and violates medical/health/business practice regulations without consequences.
If we’re about equality, allow for a timeframe for the father to get a financial abortion (waive all rights in exchange for no legal or financial obligations) and then if that makes the pregnant woman change her mind she still has time to get the abortion. But there should be an official service of papers and mandatory prenatal paternity test for that.
I don’t support outright banning abortion but I don’t understand how they were rejected for having more employees than allowed.
If they lied on the application, punish the company. But this is not out of revenge or personal/political opinions. If a restaurant intentionally/knowingly lied and knew they were breaking the rules I would say the same thing.
Abortion does not affect my life, America’s safety/sovereignty/freedom, or harm the economy...we all have our feelings about it but we have way more pressing battles to fight.
Planned Parenthood is a monster 501(c)) receiving hundreds of millions in Private donations and Government grants not to mention Taxpayer Medicare funding for their 'healthcare services' as long as it's not directly used for Abortions.
PP Affiliates are not like some independent fried chicken chain franchise holder.
I don't disagree but we did some damage to the mob with some obscure tax laws that led to bigger findings.
You have to make changes incrementally. First you deregulate birth control so anyone can purchase it in a drug store. Then withdraw federal funds for abortions. Then limit abortion to the first trimester.
Not Good Enough, Repeal Roe Vs Wade and Save America's Future Children.
Since this was never law, but a terrible SCOTUS ruling, the proper terminology is REVERSE ROE vs WADE. But I absolutely agree with the concept.
I remember well the original ruling. It was all about trimesters with unfettered abortion only in the 1rst trimester, almost none in the 3rd trimester and abortion for cause in the 2nd. The proverbial slippery slope has now expanded it to new borns after botched abortions.
We might as well follow the trend and make abortion extend throughout life. It would certainly make honoring your mother a much higher priority.
No need to even reverse it - since it is not a law, as you say.
I don't trust Roberts so maybe that is why they wait. But the moment they think they can get it...start operating like RvW never happened. Start arresting for murder. It will then be re-challenged in court.
It seems only logical that a mother should be able to sit down and have a serious talk with their therapist and decide if it's right for her to abort her young adult child who is still living at home. I'm not a doctor, but is a home really all that different than a uterus?
It should be the mother’s choice to abort her 34 year old basement dweller.
They wouldn't survive outside of the home, just like how they wouldn't survive outside of the womb. Strictly speaking probably no adults would survive in the womb so maybe anyone can be aborted. It all gets very complicated.
The details of the original ruling would be progress toward a permanent compromise, but why did SCOTUS have to do it instead of Congress or just ordinary citizens running on pro choice platforms?
Its insane that a society would support the killing of future generations. Do you know how many American citizens were killed by the Supreme Court's decision?
More than 52,000,000
To put that into perspective:
It is 15% of today's US population
It was reached the minimum estimated deaths from World War 2
It surpasses the total death of the Spanish Flu.
If the population of New York City and Los Angelos was wiped out with not a single survivor, the deaths would only be a fraction of total deaths from abortion.
Go to Google Maps and try to place yourself at the center of a circle. Then take that circle and expand it until 52 million people are within this circle. Now imagine you woke up and found that everyone within this circle was dead. No survivors regardless of who has what. Your neighborhood, community, parish, and nearby cities are completely devoid of life. In order to find another living soul, you will have to make a trip to the edge of the circle but everything within the circle would be desolate and devoid of life.
Most importantly, within that circle is everyone who would be here today as they too would have a life of their own and would have been a part of some community. Perhaps they would have founded a famous restuarant chain or invent some ground breaking technology or just lived a quiet life but we would never know because they were killed.
What's even worse is that they were never baptised and all the abortions were the deaths of the unbaptised. All those responsible will have a lot to answer for. I would not want to be anywhere near the unrepentant judges that ruled for abortion when the Day of Judgement comes.
Read these verses and see what the Word of God says about this.
God knows us from the time we were formed-
Psalm 139:13–16
13 For You formed my inward parts;
You covered me in my mother’s womb.
14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Marvelous are Your works,
And that my soul knows very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.
And in Your book they all were written,
The days fashioned for me,
When as yet there were none of them
David, the author of the Psalm, had this to say about a child of his who just died.
2 Samuel 12:23
23 But now he is dead, wherefore (why) should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.
Here David admits he doesn't have the power to bring back his son, and that he will never return, but, one day, David would die and go to him.
God died for all of us, including those who didn't make it outside of the womb. We are all sinners, but it's possible these children are included in the first fruits of the Resurrection.
It has been discussed and put to rest for ages. Your verses aren't related to salvation of the unborn or childrent but here are three sources showing that age is irrelevant.
Of course now we have a new Covenant and baptism has accompanied the new Covenant in the same manner as circumcision in the old Covenant.
Council of Trent, Catechism of Trent
And yet, the thief on the cross was saved. And, to list all the times God is merciful in the Bible, and forgiving, and judges by the heart - I think the point is made.
What do they mean, "MAY?"
Get the greedy bastards.
It almost always means "Nope, they won't."
The cynic me says it means "Republicans are seeking a small favor from the accused, and will dropped this the second it's received."
This is the "if a headline asks a question, the answer is no" rule. Except "if it says they may do something, they won't".
Lol no. The goverment just dumped $2 trillion out the window they probably don't know where half of it went.
When it comes to William Barr's DOJ and slapping charges on Democrats, I hear the word "may" a lot, and usually nothing after that.
Bankrupt em
How about this. Let's just nip the whole thing in the bud. Any company or organization that accepts money from the US Government is unable to donate to any political party or candidate until that money is paid back. Make it retroactive, for good measure. And similarly, any company or organization that has donated to politics is unable to receive government money. Individual employees and executives may still do what they will with their own money, of course, but I think requiring more transparency in how these groups spend any money received from the government might help in reducing any attempts to end-run around the above plan and continue laundering money to the political parties.
BINGO!
Stop using the word may.
Even if someone thinks that first term abortions should be legal and endorses the abortifacient Plan B, Planned Parenthood is still an extremely corrupt corporations. It's literally the McDonald's of abortions with lower quality workers, less standards and chock full of greed and lies. Planned Parenthood is an evil corporation.
That’s exactly what I think. My problem is NOT with early abortion; it’s that a giant corporation/nonprofit gets taxpayer money, funnels to campaigns, and violates medical/health/business practice regulations without consequences.
And even with all that corruption and greed and fleecing of taxpayers, they're still able to pass themselves off as being about "women's health".
They aren't about women's health at all. Their bread and butter is abortion and then selling human tissue and body parts from the aborted.
They're not women's advocates. They're ghouls.
My biggest issue with abortion is that the "pro chocie" idiots lie about this women's rights shit.
Just admit you want to kill the baby because it will interrupt your party lifestyle and you aren't responsible enough to care for it.
It's like marijuana too. Quit pretending it's about some medical nonsense, just admit you want to get baked. Quit fucking lying to me.
If we’re about equality, allow for a timeframe for the father to get a financial abortion (waive all rights in exchange for no legal or financial obligations) and then if that makes the pregnant woman change her mind she still has time to get the abortion. But there should be an official service of papers and mandatory prenatal paternity test for that.
Wasn't Planned Parenthood an "essential business" anyway? Why would they even be considered for PPP loans?
I wondered about that myself...they even got Federal Judges to rule Abortions as 'essential'...WTF is up with that...
Do it
Could some lefty be held accountable for something, somewhere, please?
DO IT!!!
that’s a great thought, but how about they start with the fucking TREASON the obiden bama administration committed first
Ok now do all the multi-billion dollar companies who stole PPP money from small businesses like mine.
These people will not stop killing babies.
Get 'em!
May.
Look, to be fair, when you abort a baby they won’t get WuFlu so give us that Coronavirus money!
Wrist slaps all around!
Yes
How about cut their funding also?
HELL YEAH! Give it to those baby killers
kek this would really trigger the screechers
💯 perfect
They should find ways to legally attack that baby killing factory every day. It's the one organization that leftists cherish the most.
Good
The easy way to interpret "may" or "maybe" in politics is always to default to the negative outcome.
I don’t support outright banning abortion but I don’t understand how they were rejected for having more employees than allowed.
If they lied on the application, punish the company. But this is not out of revenge or personal/political opinions. If a restaurant intentionally/knowingly lied and knew they were breaking the rules I would say the same thing.
Abortion does not affect my life, America’s safety/sovereignty/freedom, or harm the economy...we all have our feelings about it but we have way more pressing battles to fight.
Planned Parenthood is a monster 501(c)) receiving hundreds of millions in Private donations and Government grants not to mention Taxpayer Medicare funding for their 'healthcare services' as long as it's not directly used for Abortions.
PP Affiliates are not like some independent fried chicken chain franchise holder.
I understand that the affiliates are not like franchises but corporately managed facilities.