93,000+ patients and ZERO of them with Zinc as part of the treatment. Either patients aren't getting Hydroxy + Zithromax +Zinc (They are, some of ours are on that treatment plan) or they intentionally omitted such patients.
Their wording of it in the article was very clever. “It’s based on retrospective analysis, not a controlled study—a method considered the gold standard of medicine.” I can see 80% of people skimming over that, and maybe even reading that, and taking the gold standard part to have a halo effect over the rest of it, as if it were referring to the study itself.
Science is really slow. There is little consensus on anything that matters as it is unfolding. There is certainly no consensus that HCQ is deadly. There isn’t even a consensus about facts at this point, like the death projections being off by hilarious orders of magnitude. “They weren’t wrong, it’s just that shit happened, like social distancing.” The fucking models already took that into account. “It just proves social distancing works.” In NY, the people that got it were usually the ones that stayed home. On and on. Which is fine. But if you’re discussing things in that manner and cannot be wrong, then you’re no longer speaking in scientific terms. The ‘science’ on this used to support the lockdown isn’t even wrong, which is the biggest insult something can receive in this situation.
I do a bit of speed reading on stuff, and I admit my first scan of the highlighted bit did make me think that the method used was the “gold standard”. That’s on me and I should slow down.
It’s not until I had re-read the bit after seeing your comment that I saw the spin. Very devious. If they had to include that line at all, a better way to impart the information would have been, “while this study didn’t use what is considered the ‘gold standard’ of control groups and random assignments, it did rely on retrospective data...”
Looking at it again when I checked it out after seeing it on redacted, the Post edited the article further, changing the em dash (—) to a comma before the ‘gold standard’ part. Now it looks like it says it’s the gold standard even more. The only reason to remove something like that is to decrease the emphasis on it and make everything seem more fluid. It’s definitely intentional, and the screenshot of this post proves what the original said.
On that note, redacted has a revolving door of articles now all echoing the same headlines which are all based on this one hit piece. Bad science isn’t better than no science, it’s worse.
I edit work professionally, and the aim is always to impart the information clearly so there’s no misinterpretation of what’s being said.
This one sentence seems like a critical detail to get right, and I’d have debated even adding the “gold standard” bit at all. Just detail the method used and leave it at that.
But I don’t expect WaPo to respect the intelligence of the audience.
Science and Journalism used to be pursuits of provable truth and facts. Not anymore. Grant based research and Advertising have corrupted those industries beyond repair.
It's like walking up to 5 people in Silicon Valley and asking them if they like Trump, and 4 of them say no. They'll run with "80% of people dislike Trump, poll says!"
Upon hearing the surprising results of the VA study, Dr. Raoult reviewed their findings and discovered several glaring instances of “scientific misconduct.”
The analysis of the data shows two major biases…Lymphopenia is twice as common in the HCQ groups as the non-HCQ group and there is an absolute correlation between lymphopenia and fatality rate, which is well known.”
One of the major problems Raoult found was that the HQC and the HQC/Zpak were given after the patients had been intubated. “This is unreasonable at the time of the cytokine storm [after patient is critically ill], as it is unlikely that HCQ alone would be able to control patients at this stage of the disease.”
Ingraham translates: “The later you take HCQ, the worse the outcome will be.”
Our study has several limitations. The association of decreased survival with hydroxychloroquine or chloro-quine treatment regimens should be interpreted cautiously. Due to the observational study design, we cannot exclude the possibility of unmeasured con-founding factors, although we have reassuringly noted consistency between the primary analysis and the propensity score matched analyses. Nevertheless, a cause-and-effect relationship between drug therapy and survival should not be inferred. These data do not apply to the use of any treatment regimen used in the ambulatory, out-of-hospital setting. Randomised clinical trials will be required before any conclusion can be reached regarding benefit or harm of these agents in COVID-19 patients. We also note that although we evaluated the relationship of the drug treatment regimens with the occurrence of ventricular arrhyth-mias, we did not measure QT intervals, nor did we stratify the arrhythmia pattern (such as torsade de pointes). We also did not establish if the association of increased risk of in-hospital death with use of the drug regimens is linked directly to their cardiovascular risk, nor did we conduct a drug dose-response analysis of the observed risks. Even if these limitations suggest a conservative interpretation of the findings, we believe that the absence of any observed benefit could still represent a reasonable explanation.In summary, this multinational, observational, real-world study of patients with COVID-19 requiring hospitalisation found that the use of a regimen con-taining hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine (with or without a macrolide) was associated with no evidence of benefit, but instead was associated with an increase in the risk of ventricular arrhythmias and a greater hazard for in-hospital death with COVID-19. These findings suggest that these drug regimens should not be used outside of clinical trials and urgent confirmation from randomised clinical trials is needed.
Doctors know all the side effects. It's been around since the 50s. That's why it's prescription because a doctor has to decide if it's safe for you to take given other physical conditions. But Liberal Governors are inserting themselves between doctor and patient on behalf of Big Pharma because there's no profit in an off-patent $20 drug that's been around forever when they can piss away billions in R&D to develop a new drug that costs $1000/dose because it's patented and can only be produced by one manufacturer
Billions in R&D to develop a drug that does the same thing as a cheap generic drug we already have, but can be patented and sold for $1,000 per pill. Of course, the only way to make people agree with that nonsense is to convince them that the generic alternative doesn't work and will kill them if they try it. Which is why the MSM is so pissed that Trump admitted to taking it. If they actually thought HCQ was deadly and would kill him, every Democrat and MSM stooge would've been celebrating his announcement.
And Remdesivir is less effective than HCQ too, with equally bad side effects. Yet is touted by Fraudci as a "game changer" while he continually shits on and downplays HCQ.
It is not about profit. It is about the crisis. They don't want the crisis to end: that's why they are trying to discredit this. If it was about profit, they would simply end the lockdowns.
Yep, can confirm. I follow a lot of Democrats on social media and they post up articles like this all the time to REEEEEEEEEEE with their friends about Orange Man. I often click the links and read the articles, where they debunk their own Fake News headline. None of the Democrat idiots ever read the article, because the headline confirms their Orange Man Bad programming, and that's all they care about.
I am so confused. A death WITH COVID-19 sets COVID-19 as the CAUSE OF DEATH. Yet here is the press telling me that a death WITH hydroxychloroquine AND COVID-19 sets the cause of death as hydroxychloroquine?
Especially given how difficult it makes for us regular people to get this drug. Absolutely disgusting and there must be hell to pay. I am going to sue my local liberal rag once more positive evidence for hcq comes out
What is the deal with the fear mongering over using HCQ? It's been used for years. People take it all the time.
If WuFlu is so deadly what would be the harm in using it? Oh, I know. It is cheap and they can't make $$$ off it and it would end this shutdown nonsense before the election. Got it.
Two other tidbits about the report: The authors are heart specialists, not researchers involved in treating influenza or antiviral medications. These guys are qualified to talk about the risk of irregular heartbeats, but not about the benefits of the drug. Their results showed an increase in deaths for those using HCQ, but drew know conclusions about how or why that occurred. So basically, numbers going to number.
Also, the word "zinc" is not mentioned in the entirety of the text of the report. These guys have no idea how treatment with HCQ works.
The study only showed results when given to people with co-morbidities, not the benefits on otherwise healthy people, and it makes no reference to zinc, which is supposed to be critical to the treatment.
So, is the headline of the article should really be, Study shows hydroxychloroquine side effects that were previously known still exist.
As expected, it's bullshit. They selected the study vs control groups solely based on the status of quinine based treatment of those hospitalized. As we know, quinine is more often used for those in more severe conditions. They did not even attempt to statistically control for this fact in the study. (Not that you even could.)
As scientists, they would immediately recognize that this study would necessarily show a correlation. This is something anyone with a high school level understanding of science should recognize. I can't imagine any reason they would do this unless they were paid to show a certain result. At least they made it obvious what a load of crap it is.
"This sloppy garbage mess of a study convinced some morons"
I love how they actually said that. They actually wrote down that whilst the study was BAD they made their numbers BIG and so some people were impressed.
There is more than just fake news these days, there is also fake science. There are a lot of so-called scientists that aren't doing any real science. Look no further than all the fake studies that have been exposed over the last several years. Some just say whatever they feel like saying if everybody else is saying it.
LibertyZONE hates this fake news bullshit. If you want to have a scientific study it has to be a double blind RCT or quasi-experimental observational study. LibertyZONE has not seen such bullshit before.
The claim was that you need the HCQ COMBO early, and they are using the results of people who just got the HCQ who have progressed to vents and also have co morbids. If you go on a vent, you have a 25% chance of coming off it, no matter what they give you. They might as well be giving them fish tank cleaner. This is bad science, politicized medicine and intellectual dishonesty by the media. They truly are the enemy of the people. Tar and feather them all.
Note that the headline says "is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients". That is the ultimate in weasel words. OK, yes, taking HCQ does slightly increase your chance of developing an arrhythmia. Its side effects are well known. But it also REDUCES your chance of dying of the Chinese virus. And the chances of it helping is very much dependent on WHEN it is given (the earlier the better) and also that it is used with a compatible antibiotic (to limit complications of a lung infection) and also zinc. And THAT STUDY just never interests these hacks.
I understand the first amendment and fake news operating under its cover for political purposes but true information around this is literally LIFE and DEATH for people.
This is political bias and TDS infiltrating the health field. This is not an op ed. This health headline will be believed as truth.
Just like CDC showing their political bias by instructing physicians to declare suspected & non tested patients as covid.
Such coding is unprecedented, goes against science and taints the statistics upon which legislation is written.
The reason patients "died' after taking Hydroxychloroquine was because of COVID (or another related illness). It is only given in extreme circumstances to patients who really are on their last leg. Nothing would have saved them at that point....
This article also makes claims about arrhythmia NOTE how no studies or other corroborating evidence is given.... This side-effect has only been observed in long-term users (not short term use for the treatment of COVID).
Their libtard audience will take this article at face value because they do not posses the critical thinking skills to question "medical studies".
...but Trump supporters are the dumb ones AMIRIGHT?!?!??
“Looks at highlighted text.”
You’re kidding me, right? I’m no scientist, but one of the biggest things they hammer into you head in science class is the importance of control groups. These idiots make a mockery of ACTUAL scientists.
Let's assume that a COVID-19 vaccine would cost $50/dose. That's slightly more than the average cost of a flu shot. 50 x 325,000,000 is 16.25 billion dollars. Now let's assume that, like the flu shot, the COVID-19 vaccine is only good for a year, you need a new one every season.
Over the course of a decade, that is 162.5 billion dollars. 162.5 billion reasons for the pharma industry and all their allies and defenders in the media, academia, government, and medicine, to discredit and cast doubt upon any treatment that isn't a patented vaccine.
Numbers only for USA, since drug costs are handled differently in the rest of the world.
I just saw the usual knuckleheads on Reddit going off on how this isn't a surprise, the medication is dangerous, etc., etc.
Honestly I don't know why the Lancet still enjoys a reputation as authoritative. They publish pseudoscientific bullshit like this all the time from "scientists" who think methodology is a type of acting.
It's brainwashing, pure and simple. It's not just lying, not just misinformation. It's an enemy attempting to have people believe the opposite of reality.
The misleadia has resorted to flat out lying on a daily basis now. Publishing lies and misleading statements in their headlines, debunked in the same article, is one of their favorite propaganda mechanisms.
oh ohohh ohh wait wait wait.... I thought stuff like this was just anecdotal??? That's from their own words over the last 2 months!! The Democrats and the MSM are straight up human scum!! They are the lowest form of human being on this planet and throughout this planet's history. Democrats and leftists have caused more pain and suffering on the people of this planet than any other group in history!
There is no evidence the treatment and control groups were equivalent. In fact, they were likely unequal. Hydrochloroquine is still considered an experimental treatment, so the individuals who received it were likely in worse condition than those who weren't offered the treatment.
If I test positive, it is unlikely I would be administered the drug. Now, if my 80 year old grandma goes into the emergency room with Corona and pneumonia, they just might try it with her
"Study says..."* . . . .
Edit I have no idea what happened to the formatting. How does one put several blank lines in between sentences?
In other news: some scientists are retarded.
Social scientists.
Good point.
WAPO loves to drop those qualifiers and let the ready jump to (incorrect) conclusions.
Political scientists.
Doctors (of Gender Studies) agree.
Paid off*
93,000+ patients and ZERO of them with Zinc as part of the treatment. Either patients aren't getting Hydroxy + Zithromax +Zinc (They are, some of ours are on that treatment plan) or they intentionally omitted such patients.
Another trick is when the headline is a question, the answer is usually “no”.
“Did Trump collude with Russia against Hillary Clinton?”
“No.”
'fears are growing' or 'calls are growing'. There's never any evidence of the claim though.
NY Slimes and Washington Compost have poisoned the well of "confidential sources" for reporters for at least a generation.
Speculation Scientists
Just look at how many sign off on global warming; That should be a good indicator.
Hard not to when your grant money depends on it. Not that that’s an excuse.
Their wording of it in the article was very clever. “It’s based on retrospective analysis, not a controlled study—a method considered the gold standard of medicine.” I can see 80% of people skimming over that, and maybe even reading that, and taking the gold standard part to have a halo effect over the rest of it, as if it were referring to the study itself.
Science is really slow. There is little consensus on anything that matters as it is unfolding. There is certainly no consensus that HCQ is deadly. There isn’t even a consensus about facts at this point, like the death projections being off by hilarious orders of magnitude. “They weren’t wrong, it’s just that shit happened, like social distancing.” The fucking models already took that into account. “It just proves social distancing works.” In NY, the people that got it were usually the ones that stayed home. On and on. Which is fine. But if you’re discussing things in that manner and cannot be wrong, then you’re no longer speaking in scientific terms. The ‘science’ on this used to support the lockdown isn’t even wrong, which is the biggest insult something can receive in this situation.
I do a bit of speed reading on stuff, and I admit my first scan of the highlighted bit did make me think that the method used was the “gold standard”. That’s on me and I should slow down.
It’s not until I had re-read the bit after seeing your comment that I saw the spin. Very devious. If they had to include that line at all, a better way to impart the information would have been, “while this study didn’t use what is considered the ‘gold standard’ of control groups and random assignments, it did rely on retrospective data...”
But that would require the Post to be honest.
Looking at it again when I checked it out after seeing it on redacted, the Post edited the article further, changing the em dash (—) to a comma before the ‘gold standard’ part. Now it looks like it says it’s the gold standard even more. The only reason to remove something like that is to decrease the emphasis on it and make everything seem more fluid. It’s definitely intentional, and the screenshot of this post proves what the original said.
On that note, redacted has a revolving door of articles now all echoing the same headlines which are all based on this one hit piece. Bad science isn’t better than no science, it’s worse.
I edit work professionally, and the aim is always to impart the information clearly so there’s no misinterpretation of what’s being said.
This one sentence seems like a critical detail to get right, and I’d have debated even adding the “gold standard” bit at all. Just detail the method used and leave it at that.
But I don’t expect WaPo to respect the intelligence of the audience.
Some. Not “majority” of scientists. I put WaPo the same place I put 99% of white papers coming out of China - trash can.
Science and Journalism used to be pursuits of provable truth and facts. Not anymore. Grant based research and Advertising have corrupted those industries beyond repair.
I have my Master's in Mechanical Engineering making me a "Science Guy," and I agree.
It's like walking up to 5 people in Silicon Valley and asking them if they like Trump, and 4 of them say no. They'll run with "80% of people dislike Trump, poll says!"
I think CNN just walks up to one person with purple hair and asks, "Do you approve of Trump?"
"No"
CNN: 100 percent of people surveyed Do Not approve of Trump!
Like that freak on Twitch acting like a deer after he got his 'you know what' removed and started callimg himself a her? What a waste of life.
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/04/23/french-doctor-didier-raoult-cites-flaws-scientific-misconduct-in-recent-va-study-on-hydroxychloroquine/
This is the real story.
Just when I think the American Left can get any worse.
Oh and keep in mind twitter currently has this "study" trending at the very top of their "covid news" and trending list
The same social media site claiming to be against fake covid news, actively spreading it themselves.
If hydroxychloriquine is so dangerous, they should be happy the president is taking it. But the fact is, it isn't.
TD uses a subset of markdown... it's weird.
Also, why did this study mix CQ and HCQ?
I don't know. I drank fish tank cleaner and I ascended to become a higher being.
Our your trump hating wife murdered you with fish tank cleaner and tried to blame POTUS.
Did the Devil hang you upside down in Hell?
Because it is CQ that causes problems and they want to make HCQ look bad.
And did they also take the z pack?
this is what i want to know, because supposedly its the azithro that gives the heart palpitations in some patients.
Here's the limitations section on the paper:
Source: https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2931180-6
Doctors know all the side effects. It's been around since the 50s. That's why it's prescription because a doctor has to decide if it's safe for you to take given other physical conditions. But Liberal Governors are inserting themselves between doctor and patient on behalf of Big Pharma because there's no profit in an off-patent $20 drug that's been around forever when they can piss away billions in R&D to develop a new drug that costs $1000/dose because it's patented and can only be produced by one manufacturer
Billions in R&D to develop a drug that does the same thing as a cheap generic drug we already have, but can be patented and sold for $1,000 per pill. Of course, the only way to make people agree with that nonsense is to convince them that the generic alternative doesn't work and will kill them if they try it. Which is why the MSM is so pissed that Trump admitted to taking it. If they actually thought HCQ was deadly and would kill him, every Democrat and MSM stooge would've been celebrating his announcement.
And Remdesivir is less effective than HCQ too, with equally bad side effects. Yet is touted by Fraudci as a "game changer" while he continually shits on and downplays HCQ.
How medicine was taken over by corporate globalists
It is not about profit. It is about the crisis. They don't want the crisis to end: that's why they are trying to discredit this. If it was about profit, they would simply end the lockdowns.
They know that their retarded base only read the headlines.
They always hide this shit in paragraphs 11-14, every single time.
Often they'll tweet it to nobody and no one notices (obviously) and they "count" that as an apology/retraction.
Top of the list is all the Pulitzers awarded for the Russia Hoax. 'Nuff said.
But muh democracy dies in darkness...
Yep, can confirm. I follow a lot of Democrats on social media and they post up articles like this all the time to REEEEEEEEEEE with their friends about Orange Man. I often click the links and read the articles, where they debunk their own Fake News headline. None of the Democrat idiots ever read the article, because the headline confirms their Orange Man Bad programming, and that's all they care about.
My daddy always said that figures don’t lie, but liars figure.
There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics
~George Washington Carver
I am so confused. A death WITH COVID-19 sets COVID-19 as the CAUSE OF DEATH. Yet here is the press telling me that a death WITH hydroxychloroquine AND COVID-19 sets the cause of death as hydroxychloroquine?
Could the press be playing both sides? nah....
Wonder if any of them are BIll Nye and Great Turdburglar.
Probably Dr Antonio Fauccini and Dr Coonman Blackface.
This is one of the scariest cases of gaslighting by the media I have ever seen.
Especially given how difficult it makes for us regular people to get this drug. Absolutely disgusting and there must be hell to pay. I am going to sue my local liberal rag once more positive evidence for hcq comes out
I seem to recall just yesterday that Dr. Oz said that retrospective studies were not the best indicators
He may have but its a safe bet that those big words went right over the part of science's head and they just moved on
What is the deal with the fear mongering over using HCQ? It's been used for years. People take it all the time.
If WuFlu is so deadly what would be the harm in using it? Oh, I know. It is cheap and they can't make $$$ off it and it would end this shutdown nonsense before the election. Got it.
Two other tidbits about the report: The authors are heart specialists, not researchers involved in treating influenza or antiviral medications. These guys are qualified to talk about the risk of irregular heartbeats, but not about the benefits of the drug. Their results showed an increase in deaths for those using HCQ, but drew know conclusions about how or why that occurred. So basically, numbers going to number.
Also, the word "zinc" is not mentioned in the entirety of the text of the report. These guys have no idea how treatment with HCQ works.
The study only showed results when given to people with co-morbidities, not the benefits on otherwise healthy people, and it makes no reference to zinc, which is supposed to be critical to the treatment.
So, is the headline of the article should really be, Study shows hydroxychloroquine side effects that were previously known still exist.
Cool. Now do Global Warming.
Oh no, now see that would be scientific heresy!
This is the study referenced:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext
As expected, it's bullshit. They selected the study vs control groups solely based on the status of quinine based treatment of those hospitalized. As we know, quinine is more often used for those in more severe conditions. They did not even attempt to statistically control for this fact in the study. (Not that you even could.)
As scientists, they would immediately recognize that this study would necessarily show a correlation. This is something anyone with a high school level understanding of science should recognize. I can't imagine any reason they would do this unless they were paid to show a certain result. At least they made it obvious what a load of crap it is.
“to some scientists” not the “a majority of scientists” or even “a significant amount of scientists”
Or even " the right type of scientist."
You mean we shouldn’t listen to the local anthropologist studying pederastic rituals in third world shitholes?
I think his name is Reza Aslan.
Only need 2 for it to be some scientists. One wonders if these were political and social scientists.
"This sloppy garbage mess of a study convinced some morons"
I love how they actually said that. They actually wrote down that whilst the study was BAD they made their numbers BIG and so some people were impressed.
There is more than just fake news these days, there is also fake science. There are a lot of so-called scientists that aren't doing any real science. Look no further than all the fake studies that have been exposed over the last several years. Some just say whatever they feel like saying if everybody else is saying it.
LibertyZONE hates this fake news bullshit. If you want to have a scientific study it has to be a double blind RCT or quasi-experimental observational study. LibertyZONE has not seen such bullshit before.
It's not about fighting a virus anymore.
It's all about keeping control for as long as possible. Then go around the rule of law and to remove freedoms and destroy countries.
The end goal is to set of socialism inside a country that hasn't a socialist leader.
We all have been fooled. All over the world people have been fooled. Its all about control over peoples lives.
The claim was that you need the HCQ COMBO early, and they are using the results of people who just got the HCQ who have progressed to vents and also have co morbids. If you go on a vent, you have a 25% chance of coming off it, no matter what they give you. They might as well be giving them fish tank cleaner. This is bad science, politicized medicine and intellectual dishonesty by the media. They truly are the enemy of the people. Tar and feather them all.
Note that the headline says "is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients". That is the ultimate in weasel words. OK, yes, taking HCQ does slightly increase your chance of developing an arrhythmia. Its side effects are well known. But it also REDUCES your chance of dying of the Chinese virus. And the chances of it helping is very much dependent on WHEN it is given (the earlier the better) and also that it is used with a compatible antibiotic (to limit complications of a lung infection) and also zinc. And THAT STUDY just never interests these hacks.
"Some scientists" implies many. It's maybe two and I guarantee they are both suffering from Level 6 TDS.
I understand the first amendment and fake news operating under its cover for political purposes but true information around this is literally LIFE and DEATH for people.
How can there be no consequences?
Those 'some scientists' are bad scientists.
WAPO is filled up to the gills with Deep State CIA psyop operatives.
As Levin calls it, "The Washington Compost."
This is political bias and TDS infiltrating the health field. This is not an op ed. This health headline will be believed as truth.
Just like CDC showing their political bias by instructing physicians to declare suspected & non tested patients as covid. Such coding is unprecedented, goes against science and taints the statistics upon which legislation is written.
I think they present a clear and present danger to the Amerjvan publics health. When you lie like that you should be punished
The reason patients "died' after taking Hydroxychloroquine was because of COVID (or another related illness). It is only given in extreme circumstances to patients who really are on their last leg. Nothing would have saved them at that point....
This article also makes claims about arrhythmia NOTE how no studies or other corroborating evidence is given.... This side-effect has only been observed in long-term users (not short term use for the treatment of COVID).
Their libtard audience will take this article at face value because they do not posses the critical thinking skills to question "medical studies".
...but Trump supporters are the dumb ones AMIRIGHT?!?!??
Convincing to some scientists with TDS
“Looks at highlighted text.” You’re kidding me, right? I’m no scientist, but one of the biggest things they hammer into you head in science class is the importance of control groups. These idiots make a mockery of ACTUAL scientists.
Let's assume that a COVID-19 vaccine would cost $50/dose. That's slightly more than the average cost of a flu shot. 50 x 325,000,000 is 16.25 billion dollars. Now let's assume that, like the flu shot, the COVID-19 vaccine is only good for a year, you need a new one every season.
Over the course of a decade, that is 162.5 billion dollars. 162.5 billion reasons for the pharma industry and all their allies and defenders in the media, academia, government, and medicine, to discredit and cast doubt upon any treatment that isn't a patented vaccine.
I just saw the usual knuckleheads on Reddit going off on how this isn't a surprise, the medication is dangerous, etc., etc.
Honestly I don't know why the Lancet still enjoys a reputation as authoritative. They publish pseudoscientific bullshit like this all the time from "scientists" who think methodology is a type of acting.
It's brainwashing, pure and simple. It's not just lying, not just misinformation. It's an enemy attempting to have people believe the opposite of reality.
The misleadia has resorted to flat out lying on a daily basis now. Publishing lies and misleading statements in their headlines, debunked in the same article, is one of their favorite propaganda mechanisms.
oh ohohh ohh wait wait wait.... I thought stuff like this was just anecdotal??? That's from their own words over the last 2 months!! The Democrats and the MSM are straight up human scum!! They are the lowest form of human being on this planet and throughout this planet's history. Democrats and leftists have caused more pain and suffering on the people of this planet than any other group in history!
"Convincing to some scientists" means convincing to some incompetent WaPo writer, no actual scientists.
Just spin to make a headline for low iq'ers
Fake news
Ill post it again. The entire Davis Drug Guide for hydroxychloroquine.
https://thedonald.win/p/FMEtDzvl/to-clear-up-misinformation--hydr/
Last I checked, the studies were saying it saved people. What study is this HMMMM
There has been no controlled double blind study that shows your breath smells bad after you eat giant cloves of raw garlic
That odor is strictly anecdotal
There is no evidence the treatment and control groups were equivalent. In fact, they were likely unequal. Hydrochloroquine is still considered an experimental treatment, so the individuals who received it were likely in worse condition than those who weren't offered the treatment.
If I test positive, it is unlikely I would be administered the drug. Now, if my 80 year old grandma goes into the emergency room with Corona and pneumonia, they just might try it with her