Ive seen it happen. My company bought some and had a truck jacked up in the shop. Someone bumped the truck just walking past and the cast lift piece just snapped off and the truck fell onto the broken part and it went through the trucks floor. We all just stood and stared. Thank God no one was under the truck.
lol right on. I was welding on broken farming equipment and helping build cattle trailers in my dad's shop when I was 13-18. He made the cash and I got unlimited access to his shop and tools for 5 years. Before that I learned the art of lawn care. Before weedeaters we had a thing called lawn shears. Basically big spring loaded scissors with a 90 degree twist in the handle.
I still use and prefer lawn hand tools for most things other than mowing. My son is 7 and already has helped on 2 brake jobs and an engine belt replacement. He loves it and always asks to help.
My grandson turns 7 this year. He's a little lady's man already lol
I had two girls. I couldn't for the life of me interest my oldest in anything but shooting pool and throwing darts (watch out for her at pubs, she'll take all your money), but my youngest was a little prodigy when it came to anything that fancied her attention. She learned how to replace brake pads and general maintenance before we left Alaska. She excelled in her high school machine shop trade school classes. If she doesn't get her managerial position at the casino she works in, she's gonna enroll in college so she can start working at Boeing. She's gonna put me in a swanky retirement home with hot nurses one day.
I remember my dad said this when I was a kid....people will jist keep saying it and not following through. Feels like bad virtue signaling. On that note, I have always tried to make a conscious effort to buy American, when I can, but sometimes it's unavoidable, as there isn't always a comparable alternative.
25 years ago, we had a choice. We could by better quality American made products at K-Mart or buy cheap Chinese shit for a few bucks less at Wal-Mart. I always chose K-mart, but apparently, not enough other people did, because K-mart went to shit, went bankrupt and was purchased by Sears (and is gone).
Now, for a lot of products, their is no other option
This is why I despise Wal Mart. Some people love the low prices. Other people praise them for providing jobs, etc. Some consider Mr. Walton to be the epitome of American success...
But to me, they sell cheap Chinese garbage and use their huge name to leverage smaller independent stores out of town and out of business. I never shop, literally never in Wal Mart, Target, etc.
When Sam Walton was alive, Walmart was a much different retailer. He would buy American companies that were going out of business and sell their products in the stores.
That’s another thing that bothers me about the current corporation... they don’t care what Sam would have cared and would probably vote him off the board given the chance.
Yeah I saw an article talking about when Sam was alive at their headquarters you would see Sam's 70's Ford pick up and the rest of the cars would have been late model American made vehicles. As soon as he died all you saw was hundred thousand dollar sports cars.
2 years ago I needed new socket set. Looked high and low for an American made set in my price range. Craftsman had moved to China. Snap On, Matco and similars were just too much. Settled for a made in Taiwan Gearwrench set.
I feel your pain. Bought Craftsman tools from a Sears hardware-only store years ago, staffed by old guys who actually knew stuff about tools. All the stuff I have from them is made in the US. Now Sears is gone and the brand sold to some Chinese company.
As soon as shutdowns are over and I have a fucking income again, I am identifying everything in my house that is made in China, and taking it to the fucking DUMP.
Not goodwill. Not going to allow it to continue to exist even secondhand as that takes some demand from American-made products.
Then I’m going to replace the things slowly. Starting with my tv and within about a year I should have a nice made in USA coffee pot.
When goodwill opens back up, you can go look for older American made products that are hard to find new not made in China. I found an older-model Mr. Coffee American made coffee pot for $5 a few months ago.
AvE did some kind of leaky mermaid about them but can't seem to actually view it. I use old school pressed steel ramps made in the mid-80s, anything over 205/70 doesn't like to sit in the dips though
This exactly. Harbor Freight specializes in cheap tools and doesn't really hide it. I had a friend who worked there. They knew their stuff didn't last. They relied on people simply buying more, at cheap prices, rather than relying on something that would be more durable and last longer. So yea, it's all Chinese.
That being said, I'd never buy anything other than some cheap hand tools there that didn't need to be durable. Buying anything substantial, especially like a jack, sounds insane to me.
Same here. If I'm working on something around the house and the only way to get done, because of time restraints or what have you, is to go buy some cheap tool at HF. Otherwise I'm looking for something built to last.
It seems the Germans have a good track record of building quality tools, though some of the brands like Festool cost an arm and a leg.
Agreed. $40.00 for a pair of pliers is kind of ridiculous, especially if you have a tendency to lose tools like me, but they are definitely high quality.
Thats my issue with Klein, i will spend $30 on a milti nut driver and lose a piece after a few weeks. High quality doesnt matter when you are prone to losing stuff. I have lost 2 expensive Klein flashlights in the past 3 months and ive probably lost 20 of those free harbor freight flash lights in the past few years.
I'm sorry, but it's got to be said. This is bad, but anyone who buys cheap chinese shit for lifesaving equipment is just stupid. I'll admit I have a lot of harbor freight tools, but jack stands, no fucking way.
I use rv/semi jackstands for my car. 22 ton capacity for the pair. No ratchet or pawl, just a solid 1 inch diameter pin. They're heavy and overkill for sure, but I am not risking my car falling on me. When the wheels come off, they are placed under the car also, just in case.
I love harbor freight, they have some of the same tools as HD and Lowe's and sometimes 1/5th of the price, and a better return policy imho. But I would never buy something that is supposed to hold a load from there. Unfortunately everyone buys from China, need to get manf back to the states or at least the North America.
Umm that will never be a jack stand to me. I only ever use the mobile home leveler screw style stands because these ratchet style ones no matter where I test them (even hardware stores) really do want to collapse with no more than a slight shake.
I also refuse to use the "modern" hydraulic ones because they're designed to leak out the fluid.
Nothing to do with the products here per se, but when I was 18/19 I had a good friend who was having a nap and woke late for her dance recital. Was pissed her dad didn't check on her. Came into the garage all mad. Finds him underneath their car.
It had fallen on him, and he had a heart attack, and died.
Imagine the last thoughts you had were anger only to find your dad dead. And if you hadn't been asleep, might have been a chance to save him and get an ambulance. It devastated her.
My other friend and I still never trust getting under a car since. We shake it on the stands just to be sure.
I hate to think this scenario played out with other poor souls over this Chinese fucking crap.
Ive seen it happen. My company bought some and had a truck jacked up in the shop. Someone bumped the truck just walking past and the cast lift piece just snapped off and the truck fell onto the broken part and it went through the trucks floor. We all just stood and stared. Thank God no one was under the truck.
that's some scary shit. I hate getting under a vehicle.
I make kids do it
Just because it's child labor doesn't mean it's not quality work.
100% American hand labor. Makes me proud
lol right on. I was welding on broken farming equipment and helping build cattle trailers in my dad's shop when I was 13-18. He made the cash and I got unlimited access to his shop and tools for 5 years. Before that I learned the art of lawn care. Before weedeaters we had a thing called lawn shears. Basically big spring loaded scissors with a 90 degree twist in the handle.
I still use and prefer lawn hand tools for most things other than mowing. My son is 7 and already has helped on 2 brake jobs and an engine belt replacement. He loves it and always asks to help.
My grandson turns 7 this year. He's a little lady's man already lol
I had two girls. I couldn't for the life of me interest my oldest in anything but shooting pool and throwing darts (watch out for her at pubs, she'll take all your money), but my youngest was a little prodigy when it came to anything that fancied her attention. She learned how to replace brake pads and general maintenance before we left Alaska. She excelled in her high school machine shop trade school classes. If she doesn't get her managerial position at the casino she works in, she's gonna enroll in college so she can start working at Boeing. She's gonna put me in a swanky retirement home with hot nurses one day.
Goddamn lawn sheers brother. Dad didn't want to hit the trees with the weed eater so I went around clipping a radius around the trunk.
Dad? Is that you?
Could be. Momma hook up on the road in Georgia with a coworker say 2000-01?
Na, I'm a way older model than that. But I do laugh about growing up sometimes.
https://i.imgur.com/zzdrNmf.jpg
Always laugh. I talk with my kids and remember how much of a goof I was at their age. Good times
Shieett, this right here
Make sure they are undocumented, then it's ok ;)
Wasn't it roller blades?
Dont buy chinese anything ever. Or anything thats not made in America.
I remember my dad said this when I was a kid....people will jist keep saying it and not following through. Feels like bad virtue signaling. On that note, I have always tried to make a conscious effort to buy American, when I can, but sometimes it's unavoidable, as there isn't always a comparable alternative.
American, European, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, hell anywhere but China is a good place to start.
25 years ago, we had a choice. We could by better quality American made products at K-Mart or buy cheap Chinese shit for a few bucks less at Wal-Mart. I always chose K-mart, but apparently, not enough other people did, because K-mart went to shit, went bankrupt and was purchased by Sears (and is gone).
Now, for a lot of products, their is no other option
This is why I despise Wal Mart. Some people love the low prices. Other people praise them for providing jobs, etc. Some consider Mr. Walton to be the epitome of American success...
But to me, they sell cheap Chinese garbage and use their huge name to leverage smaller independent stores out of town and out of business. I never shop, literally never in Wal Mart, Target, etc.
When Sam Walton was alive, Walmart was a much different retailer. He would buy American companies that were going out of business and sell their products in the stores.
That’s another thing that bothers me about the current corporation... they don’t care what Sam would have cared and would probably vote him off the board given the chance.
Yeah I saw an article talking about when Sam was alive at their headquarters you would see Sam's 70's Ford pick up and the rest of the cars would have been late model American made vehicles. As soon as he died all you saw was hundred thousand dollar sports cars.
2 years ago I needed new socket set. Looked high and low for an American made set in my price range. Craftsman had moved to China. Snap On, Matco and similars were just too much. Settled for a made in Taiwan Gearwrench set.
I feel your pain. Bought Craftsman tools from a Sears hardware-only store years ago, staffed by old guys who actually knew stuff about tools. All the stuff I have from them is made in the US. Now Sears is gone and the brand sold to some Chinese company.
As soon as shutdowns are over and I have a fucking income again, I am identifying everything in my house that is made in China, and taking it to the fucking DUMP.
Not goodwill. Not going to allow it to continue to exist even secondhand as that takes some demand from American-made products.
Then I’m going to replace the things slowly. Starting with my tv and within about a year I should have a nice made in USA coffee pot.
When goodwill opens back up, you can go look for older American made products that are hard to find new not made in China. I found an older-model Mr. Coffee American made coffee pot for $5 a few months ago.
Serious question, can you even buy china not made in China?
As in porcelain?
Go here and search for "china".
I've got a set of these jack stands, how do I get that sweet recall $$?
Probably take them back to Harbor Freight genius
can we leave the reddit shit behind and not be dicks to one another?
Screw you pal!
Name checks out
Yeah that's a dick name for sure
AvE did some kind of leaky mermaid about them but can't seem to actually view it. I use old school pressed steel ramps made in the mid-80s, anything over 205/70 doesn't like to sit in the dips though
Harbor Freight, AKA one and done tools. Fine when there are no other options, but otherwise you get what you pay for.
This exactly. Harbor Freight specializes in cheap tools and doesn't really hide it. I had a friend who worked there. They knew their stuff didn't last. They relied on people simply buying more, at cheap prices, rather than relying on something that would be more durable and last longer. So yea, it's all Chinese.
That being said, I'd never buy anything other than some cheap hand tools there that didn't need to be durable. Buying anything substantial, especially like a jack, sounds insane to me.
Same here. If I'm working on something around the house and the only way to get done, because of time restraints or what have you, is to go buy some cheap tool at HF. Otherwise I'm looking for something built to last.
It seems the Germans have a good track record of building quality tools, though some of the brands like Festool cost an arm and a leg.
I am still old school.. wood blocks..8x8...4x4....ect....
Warning: Contains 100% Chinesium.
Who even makes tools in US?
I think Klein still does.
edit: Yep. Website says most of their stuff is still made in the USA.
from website: Klein Tools makes 14 times more products here in the United States than we do in any other country
https://www.kleintools.com/
All my work tools are Klein, they are just so god damned expensive, all my tools for around the house are harbor freight.
Agreed. $40.00 for a pair of pliers is kind of ridiculous, especially if you have a tendency to lose tools like me, but they are definitely high quality.
Thats my issue with Klein, i will spend $30 on a milti nut driver and lose a piece after a few weeks. High quality doesnt matter when you are prone to losing stuff. I have lost 2 expensive Klein flashlights in the past 3 months and ive probably lost 20 of those free harbor freight flash lights in the past few years.
Empire does too.
There's a few mobile outfitters that a few of my friends say they trust like Snap-On.
I'm sorry, but it's got to be said. This is bad, but anyone who buys cheap chinese shit for lifesaving equipment is just stupid. I'll admit I have a lot of harbor freight tools, but jack stands, no fucking way.
Jokes on them, I could prop up my Honda Fit with a Jello mold of a jack stand.
You had one job, jack.
I had just got jack stands there instead of Walmart. The ones I got were 1 number off from those and supposedly fine.
I use rv/semi jackstands for my car. 22 ton capacity for the pair. No ratchet or pawl, just a solid 1 inch diameter pin. They're heavy and overkill for sure, but I am not risking my car falling on me. When the wheels come off, they are placed under the car also, just in case.
I love harbor freight, they have some of the same tools as HD and Lowe's and sometimes 1/5th of the price, and a better return policy imho. But I would never buy something that is supposed to hold a load from there. Unfortunately everyone buys from China, need to get manf back to the states or at least the North America.
Yeah never a problem with the tools. Doesn't mean I endorse lol
Umm that will never be a jack stand to me. I only ever use the mobile home leveler screw style stands because these ratchet style ones no matter where I test them (even hardware stores) really do want to collapse with no more than a slight shake.
I also refuse to use the "modern" hydraulic ones because they're designed to leak out the fluid.
I've had experience wth tools made of Chinesium, specifically, brake-spring pliers that could have hurt me badly.
Looks like I'm swapping jack stands at Harbor Freight today.
Nothing to do with the products here per se, but when I was 18/19 I had a good friend who was having a nap and woke late for her dance recital. Was pissed her dad didn't check on her. Came into the garage all mad. Finds him underneath their car.
It had fallen on him, and he had a heart attack, and died.
Imagine the last thoughts you had were anger only to find your dad dead. And if you hadn't been asleep, might have been a chance to save him and get an ambulance. It devastated her.
My other friend and I still never trust getting under a car since. We shake it on the stands just to be sure.
I hate to think this scenario played out with other poor souls over this Chinese fucking crap.
There's very few things I'd trust my life on less than a Harbor Freight jack stand.