They moved the goalposts to say the mask prevents your spit from getting on shit thus preventing the virus, which is... technically true... until you realize that wearing this shit for a long time and touching it a bunch actually makes you spread any infection to your face more.
Due to masks, we now have folks at work with the flu. It's totally not because they're touching their faces a shit load more while not being able to wash their hands enough
Agree 100%. My theory is masks make people MORE likely to catch something, not less. The virus can enter our eyes, too. Why aren't they forcing everyone to wear goggles?
Another thing, if masks are so important to prevent the spread of disease, shouldn't everyone wear them every flu season, where 50K+ people die every year?
PPE is a barrier. If you reuse or touch that barrier, you defeated the purpose. Cutting raw chicken while wearing gloves? If you touch the glove AT ALL on the outside you have no contaminated your hands. No problem, just wash them. This is why most restaurants don't really care about gloves but REALLY CARE about washing hands.
That mask? It's collecting not only whats being sucked through it but what you're exhaling. Fighting off a flu but asymptomatic? You're rebreathing that virus. Getting enough of that virus in you is how you actually get sick. If you change the mask every little bit, it's not a problem.
The mask also requires you to touch your face more. If you're not washing your hands BEFORE and AFTER removing/putting on the mask? You're not doing anyone ANY good.
Go get some non toxic ink. Put a few drops on your hand. Put on your mask. Look at your face. You can see how easy it is to spread contamination. Without the mask, would you have put any filth on your face?
The problem is, no one wears them correctly or changes them frequently enough. No one is washing their hands every time the touch the mask. Also, the mask doesn't cover the entire face, so if the virus is on your hands, and you touch your eye, for instance, that's a problem.
What's funny is, until last month, all the "experts" were saying masks did no good for the general public. Then suddenly, they did a 180. No evidence for it, but they suddenly started recommended or forcing all to wear them. This is about control and social engineering, period.
I was one of 2 people qualified to work in the reactor compartment. That contamination is the shit that if it gets on your skin, you're gonna have a bad time. The concept of preventing contamination IS EXACTLY the same except radioactive isotopes can embed and be far more permanent than washing that shit off with dawn.
I'd like to take someone's mask after 2 days of use and set it in a warm environment and see what kinds of mold grow to prove the point. We did a science experiment in 7th grade:
Brush your teeth. Take a swab of your cheek and put it in petri dish. Wait a day and look at how disgusting that shit is. Imagine breathing that shit in repeatedly instead of having it not directly put back into your body?
Don't get me started on the people wearing gloves in stores... they're gonna touch that same shit without the gloves later.
I've basically been doing what I've always been doing. I keep a reasonable distance from people. TBH, I don't want to be within 6 feet of a stranger, even before all this COVID shit happened. If I'm sick, I stay away from people. I wash my hands after being out in public, and I try to avoid touching my face with unclean hands. I cover my mouth when coughing/sneezing. I don't like crowded places, and avoid them most of the time.
I think these are all just common sense, reasonable precautions to take during a pandemic or not. Since I work in a hospital, they force all of use to wear useless cloth masks, even when not near people. I'll be goddamned if someone is gonna force me to wear one on my own time. Fuck that.
I agree fully. I just think the militant enforcement and karening is the problem. If I wanna go to a bar or restaurant, fucking let ME CHOOSE if I want to isolate or socialize. I don't need your bullshit telling me I can't socialize or meet new people.
I think senior hours at stores should've been happening a long time ago. I like to get shit done. I'm in and out of the store in 15 minutes max every time I go, I feel bad when I gotta move around an old person but my time is money. I think it's better for everyone if we had this courtesy.
Agree. I don't care if people want to wear a mask, but they should do their own research and make their own decision. It should not be forced on anyone. We're a free country, not communist China, although many people seem very eager to give up their liberties.
True BUT- the virus doesn't travel on it's own. It is on droplets of many sizes and many can't get though those holes.It isn't great protection but it does give some.
Here's the problem with that. When you cough or sneeze or even just breathe, that air isn't stopped by a loose fitting, cloth mask. It can easily just leak out around the mask. Ever notice how glasses fog up when wearing a mask? It's because all that air is exiting the mask. These masks are purely for show.
You know, I come into threads like these and I never know who to reply to. So I look for someone who seems level headed and gets it.
I'm an APIC infection control nurse. Kind of interesting how a year ago there was all this literature coming out saying masks aren't very effective, and how now, mandatory mask orders are praised by the exact same people.
The truth is an exposure and an infection are different things. A guy I pass at the grocery store and sneezes and I breath in a little of it, I might be exposed, I PROBABLY won't get infected. If my lovely charming wife gets sick with something like the flu or covid-19 or pneumonia or the common cold, I'm swimming in that stuff and I'm likely to catch it if my immune system can't kick it's ass before.
The problem with masks is that most people that get infected, with anything, it's not because they stood too close to you at the grocery store, it's because you spent a long time around them and the surfaces they infected. Masks don't do anything for that, and studies show you are more likely to touch your face adjusting your mask then if you just didn't wear one.
Masks to offer some protection, just not really any reliable realistic protection.
A;l>The problem with masks is that most people that get infected, with anything, it's not because they stood too close to you at the grocery store, it's because you spent a long time around them
So far so good.
and the surfaces they infected.
This isn't likely the case for respiratory viruses. The person coughing up a storm behind you - yes, that's a likely source of infection. Touching the same shopping cart they did? A possible source or respiratory infection, but not as likely as the coughing is.
Masks don't do anything for that,
They certainly do. Maybe you've forgotten your basic chain of infection. Maybe you've forgotten about viral load. Cloth or surgical masks won't stop all of the droplets coming out. They might filter 40-60% out. Testing by laboratories show that a high velocity air stream, such as a cough, reduces the filtration even further than that. 10 minutes in the presence of someone filtering out even 30% of their droplets is better than 10 minutes in the presence of the same person with zero percent filtration.
and studies show you are more likely to touch your face adjusting your mask then if you just didn't wear one.
This is why I dislike theoreticians. Instead of reading a study watch a few hundred people wearing masks for hours at a time. In practical application, people do touch their masks a lot. People do touch their faces without wearing masks. The people wearing masks aren't usually touching inside their masks. (some still do) They aren't touching the parts of their faces such as the nostril and mouth where the virus can easily enter the body.
Transmission via the contact route has not been proven for covid-19. Transmission via contact is not the primary way this virus or other respiratory viruses are contracted.
Masks to offer some protection, just not really any reliable realistic protection.
Incorrect. They offer varying degrees of protection depending on how they are worn. A lengthy period of time in a surgical mask next to a coughing covid patient will still get you sick. Briefly walking through the same space that a coughing covid positive patient did a few minutes before, and that same surgical mask will give a you a fair degree of not catching the virus.
If the virus were as easily transmissible via physical contact as you and many others surmise, then we'd have far more health care workers infected. Hundreds of thousands of provider+patient interaction experiences over the last 3+ months contradict the claims you are making. The ones in our hospital system that got sick were those who interacted with a patient without a mask. The ones who had physical contact with a covid+ patient and were wearing masks weren't the ones getting sick.
I do remember all kinds of advice from the infection control 'experts' early on (late January through February). The advice changed many times, sometimes on the same day. These 'experts' were wrong then and still wrong, because they can't apply basic laws of physics to pathophysiology. If most of them were practicing clinicians, they'd be dead by now from their own mistakes.
I find a lot of what you said insulting and demeaning, at my age, I'm done arguing with people who can't be respectful.
Maybe you've forgotten your basic chain of infection. Maybe you've forgotten about viral load.
That was my entire point and the fact you don't realize that is why you missed the point of everything I said. Sorry. I wish you good luck and a great day.
Maybe minimal protection. However, that doesn't mean it will prevent spread among large populations. There's just no evidence of that. Mask wearing is very common in Asia, and the virus still spread like wildfire there.
Also, I believe the small benefit of minimal protection a cloth mask may provide is negated by the fact that 99% of people don't use them properly. They touch their face and mask many times a minute. Infection can easily be spread that way. Some people don't have them over their nose, some people pull them up and down constantly, some people don't store or wash them properly. The are all reason the WHO still recommends against masks for everyone.
Covering your cough/sneeze with a tissue or arm is going to do the same thing a mask would, without all the inconvenience and constant impediment to breathing.
Ever notice how glasses fog up when wearing a mask? It's because all that air is exiting the mask. These masks are purely for show.
No, your glasses fog up is because the air you exhale is being slowed down and forced out around your face rather than spreading into the outside world in a giant cloud. It reduces the amount of spread by the wearer. It's not meant to protect the person wearing the mask, it's to protect those around the person wearing it.
But i know you don't care, you can't be bothered to be mildly discomforted for 30 mins while grocery shopping. You're basically this https://gph.is/1kK4Xrd
Wrong, the air simply goes around the sides and top of the mask. It'll follow the path of least resistance. You're right; I don't care. I have a right to breathe, so you can shove the mask right up your ass.
The fogging up on glasses is from water that's in vapor form condensing on a cold surface. Vapor isn't droplets. Evaporation separates water molecules from everything else, that's why original water purification methods involved evaporating water & running that gas through a cooler to liquify it again. It's called condensation.
LOL, wrong. Water vaper is a bunch of tiny droplets. What do you think clouds are. Also, when breathing, you can feel the air blowing up to your eyes and around the mask. It's not rocket science. Go shill somewhere else.
The surgeon general was also yelling at people on Twitter for wearing masks, just a few weeks earlier. You are free to do what you want, but your cloth mask ain't doing shit. Here's what does work:
cover mouth when coughing/sneezing
-stay home when sick
-wash hands and practice good hygiene
-don't get too close to people
-don't touch your face with unwashed hands
-get exercise and live a healthy lifestyle
These are all things we should really be doing regardless of if there's a pandemic.
Wear a mask if you want. It ain't gonna do shit. There is NO evidence that forcing the general population to wear face coverings does anything to prevent the spread of disease.
Well then if sneezing into your sleeve or hands (then washing them) is effective, there is absolutely no need for masks, right? Still, there is no scientific basis for mandating everyone wear a mask. Like I said earlier, why did it spread out of control in countries where mask usage is common practice?
It also forces you to touch your face more. So instead of washing off that virus you been molesting all day, you're now smearing it on your face because of the mask.
Most people knew how to use PPE in december. By february we were justifying filthy and unsanitary habits because of these technical truths.
Viruses are attached to droplets, droplets that are far larger than the virus, & the cloth impairs the droplets passage through the material depending on the tightness of the weave. An AIDS virus is far smaller than the pores on a condom & if we used your reasoning, then condoms wouldn't stop transmission of AIDS. But condom's pores are smaller than the liquid they're suspended in, so the liquid with the virus can't get through.
There is NO evidence that cloth masks are effective. This hasn't changed, even though the CDC changed their recommendations. I realize the virus travels on particles. However, they are of varying sizes. Some may still pass through, others will simply go around the mask. These masks are a placebo to make the sheeple feel better. Condoms aren't 100% effective against stopping anything, includnig pregnancy.
More like a submarine using thermocline to lessen sonar detection. Not foolproof, but it helps.
If you spent years of research on how air flow and electrostatic attraction worked you would know how bigger holes can filter smaller particles. Fortunately, you don't have to do this as companies have been doing this for many years. All you have to do is use your favorite search engine and look it up.
FDA - An N95 respirator is a respiratory protective device designed to achieve a very close facial fit and very efficient filtration of airborne particles.
The 'N95' designation means that when subjected to careful testing, the respirator blocks at least 95 percent of very small (0.3 micron) test particles. If properly fitted, the filtration capabilities of N95 respirators exceed those of face masks. However, even a properly fitted N95 respirator does not completely eliminate the risk of illness or death.
NIH - The structure of the virus in the cytoplasm of 3-day post-inoculation cells was examined by electron microscopy (Figure 2). Coronavirus-specific morphology was observed. Virus particle size ranged from 70–90 nm and the virus was observed in a wide range of intracellular organelles, especially in vesicles.
N95 masks are likely effective, but that's a lot different than a cloth mask. Even so, we saw many healthcare workers catch COVID, and they were wearing full PPE, including N95 masks.
Years ago, a commentator was saying how inept that cheap condoms (not that name-brands were necessarily great, either) were at 'stopping the AIDS virus'. -- He explained that it would be analogous to (the listener) trying to walk across the inside of the SuperDome, from one side to the other side, across the playfield, without hitting your head on the stadium's roof.
There was a bear at my door last night. At first I wasn't too concerned, but then I saw it wasn't wearing a mask. Fucking bears.
That reminds me of the time my husband tried to use a screen door to protect himself from a skunk spraying.
Ha!
They moved the goalposts to say the mask prevents your spit from getting on shit thus preventing the virus, which is... technically true... until you realize that wearing this shit for a long time and touching it a bunch actually makes you spread any infection to your face more.
Due to masks, we now have folks at work with the flu. It's totally not because they're touching their faces a shit load more while not being able to wash their hands enough
Agree 100%. My theory is masks make people MORE likely to catch something, not less. The virus can enter our eyes, too. Why aren't they forcing everyone to wear goggles?
Another thing, if masks are so important to prevent the spread of disease, shouldn't everyone wear them every flu season, where 50K+ people die every year?
They 100% do.
PPE is a barrier. If you reuse or touch that barrier, you defeated the purpose. Cutting raw chicken while wearing gloves? If you touch the glove AT ALL on the outside you have no contaminated your hands. No problem, just wash them. This is why most restaurants don't really care about gloves but REALLY CARE about washing hands.
That mask? It's collecting not only whats being sucked through it but what you're exhaling. Fighting off a flu but asymptomatic? You're rebreathing that virus. Getting enough of that virus in you is how you actually get sick. If you change the mask every little bit, it's not a problem.
The mask also requires you to touch your face more. If you're not washing your hands BEFORE and AFTER removing/putting on the mask? You're not doing anyone ANY good.
Go get some non toxic ink. Put a few drops on your hand. Put on your mask. Look at your face. You can see how easy it is to spread contamination. Without the mask, would you have put any filth on your face?
The problem is, no one wears them correctly or changes them frequently enough. No one is washing their hands every time the touch the mask. Also, the mask doesn't cover the entire face, so if the virus is on your hands, and you touch your eye, for instance, that's a problem.
What's funny is, until last month, all the "experts" were saying masks did no good for the general public. Then suddenly, they did a 180. No evidence for it, but they suddenly started recommended or forcing all to wear them. This is about control and social engineering, period.
Yeah, that's what is pissing me off about it all.
I was one of 2 people qualified to work in the reactor compartment. That contamination is the shit that if it gets on your skin, you're gonna have a bad time. The concept of preventing contamination IS EXACTLY the same except radioactive isotopes can embed and be far more permanent than washing that shit off with dawn.
I'd like to take someone's mask after 2 days of use and set it in a warm environment and see what kinds of mold grow to prove the point. We did a science experiment in 7th grade:
Brush your teeth. Take a swab of your cheek and put it in petri dish. Wait a day and look at how disgusting that shit is. Imagine breathing that shit in repeatedly instead of having it not directly put back into your body?
Don't get me started on the people wearing gloves in stores... they're gonna touch that same shit without the gloves later.
I've basically been doing what I've always been doing. I keep a reasonable distance from people. TBH, I don't want to be within 6 feet of a stranger, even before all this COVID shit happened. If I'm sick, I stay away from people. I wash my hands after being out in public, and I try to avoid touching my face with unclean hands. I cover my mouth when coughing/sneezing. I don't like crowded places, and avoid them most of the time.
I think these are all just common sense, reasonable precautions to take during a pandemic or not. Since I work in a hospital, they force all of use to wear useless cloth masks, even when not near people. I'll be goddamned if someone is gonna force me to wear one on my own time. Fuck that.
I agree fully. I just think the militant enforcement and karening is the problem. If I wanna go to a bar or restaurant, fucking let ME CHOOSE if I want to isolate or socialize. I don't need your bullshit telling me I can't socialize or meet new people.
I think senior hours at stores should've been happening a long time ago. I like to get shit done. I'm in and out of the store in 15 minutes max every time I go, I feel bad when I gotta move around an old person but my time is money. I think it's better for everyone if we had this courtesy.
Agree. I don't care if people want to wear a mask, but they should do their own research and make their own decision. It should not be forced on anyone. We're a free country, not communist China, although many people seem very eager to give up their liberties.
True BUT- the virus doesn't travel on it's own. It is on droplets of many sizes and many can't get though those holes.It isn't great protection but it does give some.
Here's the problem with that. When you cough or sneeze or even just breathe, that air isn't stopped by a loose fitting, cloth mask. It can easily just leak out around the mask. Ever notice how glasses fog up when wearing a mask? It's because all that air is exiting the mask. These masks are purely for show.
True. It's why I said "some protection". Also my my point was specifically to the hole size and the size of viruses.
You know, I come into threads like these and I never know who to reply to. So I look for someone who seems level headed and gets it.
I'm an APIC infection control nurse. Kind of interesting how a year ago there was all this literature coming out saying masks aren't very effective, and how now, mandatory mask orders are praised by the exact same people.
The truth is an exposure and an infection are different things. A guy I pass at the grocery store and sneezes and I breath in a little of it, I might be exposed, I PROBABLY won't get infected. If my lovely charming wife gets sick with something like the flu or covid-19 or pneumonia or the common cold, I'm swimming in that stuff and I'm likely to catch it if my immune system can't kick it's ass before.
The problem with masks is that most people that get infected, with anything, it's not because they stood too close to you at the grocery store, it's because you spent a long time around them and the surfaces they infected. Masks don't do anything for that, and studies show you are more likely to touch your face adjusting your mask then if you just didn't wear one.
Masks to offer some protection, just not really any reliable realistic protection.
A;l>The problem with masks is that most people that get infected, with anything, it's not because they stood too close to you at the grocery store, it's because you spent a long time around them
So far so good.
This isn't likely the case for respiratory viruses. The person coughing up a storm behind you - yes, that's a likely source of infection. Touching the same shopping cart they did? A possible source or respiratory infection, but not as likely as the coughing is.
They certainly do. Maybe you've forgotten your basic chain of infection. Maybe you've forgotten about viral load. Cloth or surgical masks won't stop all of the droplets coming out. They might filter 40-60% out. Testing by laboratories show that a high velocity air stream, such as a cough, reduces the filtration even further than that. 10 minutes in the presence of someone filtering out even 30% of their droplets is better than 10 minutes in the presence of the same person with zero percent filtration.
This is why I dislike theoreticians. Instead of reading a study watch a few hundred people wearing masks for hours at a time. In practical application, people do touch their masks a lot. People do touch their faces without wearing masks. The people wearing masks aren't usually touching inside their masks. (some still do) They aren't touching the parts of their faces such as the nostril and mouth where the virus can easily enter the body.
Transmission via the contact route has not been proven for covid-19. Transmission via contact is not the primary way this virus or other respiratory viruses are contracted.
Incorrect. They offer varying degrees of protection depending on how they are worn. A lengthy period of time in a surgical mask next to a coughing covid patient will still get you sick. Briefly walking through the same space that a coughing covid positive patient did a few minutes before, and that same surgical mask will give a you a fair degree of not catching the virus.
If the virus were as easily transmissible via physical contact as you and many others surmise, then we'd have far more health care workers infected. Hundreds of thousands of provider+patient interaction experiences over the last 3+ months contradict the claims you are making. The ones in our hospital system that got sick were those who interacted with a patient without a mask. The ones who had physical contact with a covid+ patient and were wearing masks weren't the ones getting sick.
I do remember all kinds of advice from the infection control 'experts' early on (late January through February). The advice changed many times, sometimes on the same day. These 'experts' were wrong then and still wrong, because they can't apply basic laws of physics to pathophysiology. If most of them were practicing clinicians, they'd be dead by now from their own mistakes.
Masks help.
I'm not sure how to reply to this.
I find a lot of what you said insulting and demeaning, at my age, I'm done arguing with people who can't be respectful.
That was my entire point and the fact you don't realize that is why you missed the point of everything I said. Sorry. I wish you good luck and a great day.
Aw, do you need a chicken tender and a therapy animal?
Maybe minimal protection. However, that doesn't mean it will prevent spread among large populations. There's just no evidence of that. Mask wearing is very common in Asia, and the virus still spread like wildfire there.
Also, I believe the small benefit of minimal protection a cloth mask may provide is negated by the fact that 99% of people don't use them properly. They touch their face and mask many times a minute. Infection can easily be spread that way. Some people don't have them over their nose, some people pull them up and down constantly, some people don't store or wash them properly. The are all reason the WHO still recommends against masks for everyone.
Covering your cough/sneeze with a tissue or arm is going to do the same thing a mask would, without all the inconvenience and constant impediment to breathing.
No, your glasses fog up is because the air you exhale is being slowed down and forced out around your face rather than spreading into the outside world in a giant cloud. It reduces the amount of spread by the wearer. It's not meant to protect the person wearing the mask, it's to protect those around the person wearing it.
But i know you don't care, you can't be bothered to be mildly discomforted for 30 mins while grocery shopping. You're basically this https://gph.is/1kK4Xrd
Wrong, the air simply goes around the sides and top of the mask. It'll follow the path of least resistance. You're right; I don't care. I have a right to breathe, so you can shove the mask right up your ass.
The fogging up on glasses is from water that's in vapor form condensing on a cold surface. Vapor isn't droplets. Evaporation separates water molecules from everything else, that's why original water purification methods involved evaporating water & running that gas through a cooler to liquify it again. It's called condensation.
LOL, wrong. Water vaper is a bunch of tiny droplets. What do you think clouds are. Also, when breathing, you can feel the air blowing up to your eyes and around the mask. It's not rocket science. Go shill somewhere else.
Hey asshole, the virus IS airborne. Also, 99.99% of scientists and doctor's don't wear cloth masks.
Go back to Reddit and get fucked, cuck.
Have I told you this yet? Go fuck your mom.
The surgeon general was also yelling at people on Twitter for wearing masks, just a few weeks earlier. You are free to do what you want, but your cloth mask ain't doing shit. Here's what does work:
These are all things we should really be doing regardless of if there's a pandemic.
Wear a mask if you want. It ain't gonna do shit. There is NO evidence that forcing the general population to wear face coverings does anything to prevent the spread of disease.
Now go back to reddit, faggot.
Well then if sneezing into your sleeve or hands (then washing them) is effective, there is absolutely no need for masks, right? Still, there is no scientific basis for mandating everyone wear a mask. Like I said earlier, why did it spread out of control in countries where mask usage is common practice?
It protects others from collecting your spittle.
It also forces you to touch your face more. So instead of washing off that virus you been molesting all day, you're now smearing it on your face because of the mask.
Most people knew how to use PPE in december. By february we were justifying filthy and unsanitary habits because of these technical truths.
Actually, this is probably a gross underestimation, but ya get the idea.
Viruses are attached to droplets, droplets that are far larger than the virus, & the cloth impairs the droplets passage through the material depending on the tightness of the weave. An AIDS virus is far smaller than the pores on a condom & if we used your reasoning, then condoms wouldn't stop transmission of AIDS. But condom's pores are smaller than the liquid they're suspended in, so the liquid with the virus can't get through.
There is NO evidence that cloth masks are effective. This hasn't changed, even though the CDC changed their recommendations. I realize the virus travels on particles. However, they are of varying sizes. Some may still pass through, others will simply go around the mask. These masks are a placebo to make the sheeple feel better. Condoms aren't 100% effective against stopping anything, includnig pregnancy.
Like a screen door on a submarine.
I actually considered making a mask out of window screening to wear around, but I was too lazy and just didn't actually care about it.
More like a submarine using thermocline to lessen sonar detection. Not foolproof, but it helps.
If you spent years of research on how air flow and electrostatic attraction worked you would know how bigger holes can filter smaller particles. Fortunately, you don't have to do this as companies have been doing this for many years. All you have to do is use your favorite search engine and look it up.
It's there.
According to this FDA website,N95 masks block 95% of particles down to 0.3 microns (300 nanometers).
According to this academic paper about the identification of COVID-19, posted on NIH's website, the COVID-19 virus is 70-90 nanometers in diameter.
Actual quotes from sites listed above:
FDA - An N95 respirator is a respiratory protective device designed to achieve a very close facial fit and very efficient filtration of airborne particles.
The 'N95' designation means that when subjected to careful testing, the respirator blocks at least 95 percent of very small (0.3 micron) test particles. If properly fitted, the filtration capabilities of N95 respirators exceed those of face masks. However, even a properly fitted N95 respirator does not completely eliminate the risk of illness or death.
NIH - The structure of the virus in the cytoplasm of 3-day post-inoculation cells was examined by electron microscopy (Figure 2). Coronavirus-specific morphology was observed. Virus particle size ranged from 70–90 nm and the virus was observed in a wide range of intracellular organelles, especially in vesicles.
N95 masks are likely effective, but that's a lot different than a cloth mask. Even so, we saw many healthcare workers catch COVID, and they were wearing full PPE, including N95 masks.
Now, like any wide diffuser, it has a better spray pattern.
Years ago, a commentator was saying how inept that cheap condoms (not that name-brands were necessarily great, either) were at 'stopping the AIDS virus'. -- He explained that it would be analogous to (the listener) trying to walk across the inside of the SuperDome, from one side to the other side, across the playfield, without hitting your head on the stadium's roof.