Police in CA are criminal in the way they 'shake down' the population.
You are not a 'citizen' here you are a 'profit source'.
Back when I used to smoke I dropped a butt into the gutter and crushed it out...I was ticketed for littering, throwing a burning object onto a highway and obstructing an officer because I complained about it.(There were thousands of butts in the gutter...)
Adam Carolla routinely rants about the police waiting at the bottom of the hill and giving chicken shit ticket to speeding vehicles, while right across the street tons of illegals selling contraband stuff and even food with impunity, without any license or inspection.
They have been doing that shit for years. I used to live in Orange County and commuted to work by motorcycle ever day. There was a long, straight stretch of road on my commute that the cops would set up at the end of, hidden in a turnout with their radar detectors. They set up there because they knew people would tend to speed up on that wide open, straight section. I knew they were almost always there so I would always watch my speed on that stretch. Because I was on a motorcycle they had a special hard on for me and they would radar me the whole way even when cars were passing me.
That ticket was bullshit. But hey smokers, those cigarette butts don't just magically disappear when you drop them on the ground. It's crazy that people who would never litter think that this is somehow ok.
The good news is that every time you fight a ticket in court, it costs the municipality money. Infraction court system are designed around most people being too busy/lazy to fight a ticket.
So you fight this ticket as follows:
"No stip" meaning you do not agree to have your case heard before anyone but an actual judge. Makes it impossible for them to churn through cases.
"No waived time" meaning you have to have your case heard within the statutory time limit
And even after they hear the case, then appeal it and fight it there too. Ends up costing the state money when all is said and done. If everyone does it, the state has to start dismissing tickets because they can't calendar them all or hire more judges to oversee them.
They couldn't care less. Everything will always be at the taxpayer's expense as long as the Democrats are in power. The only option is to boot them out, but as long as people in key areas are doing well enough to be insulated from their own idiotic policies, they'll never learn and keep voting for them.
At least in California, they can't just arbitrarily raise taxes an unlimited amount due to Prop 13. At the end of the year, if the program isn't revenue-neutral, cuts have to be made. Many municipalities have tried to streamline the ticket review process just for this reason. In LA you can't even request a court trial until you submit to two levels of online/mail review first with 14-day reply windows in an attempt to get you to miss the request window.
Wouldn't that be a case for obstruction of justice /right to speedy trial, given they are intentionally delaying your ability to request a trial with this review and strict time limit, which they can decide to take their sweet ass time to assess your review?
The initial reviews are termed "administrative hearings" to make them technically count as a "trial" for the purposes of the law, even though there is no actual hearing and it's just some low-level employee pressing the Deny button on every claim that comes in.
They actually respond very quickly, often within a day, because again their entire process is to deny everything and force you go to court to present a defense, in the hopes you are from out of town or don't want to deal with the headache of their overcrowded courts.
You can tell they only care about the money because even though the law says for fix-it tickets you have to submit proof of correction, if you submit payment without it they mark it closed anyway.
I've had tickets dropped before in California just for emailing the department and threatening to force the issue, it's happened at least twice in two different cities
I don't think anyone who lives in California is not aware that people abuse each other. The state is fully of shit head people who constantly do bad things to one another.
It's getting pretty weird for sure, I noticed tons of highway patrol everywhere all of a sudden. Normally it's the wild west with basically no law enforcement to be seen.
The other day (not in California) I saw a revenuer parked looking for speeders and hunting for revenue. I didn’t have Waze turned on, so I actually got off the highway and made a loop so I could pass the spot again and mark it as a speed trap. I probably added seven minutes to my drive, but I had time to spare.
Police in CA are criminal in the way they 'shake down' the population.
You are not a 'citizen' here you are a 'profit source'.
Back when I used to smoke I dropped a butt into the gutter and crushed it out...I was ticketed for littering, throwing a burning object onto a highway and obstructing an officer because I complained about it.(There were thousands of butts in the gutter...)
$875 was the bill...police are thieves.
Adam Carolla routinely rants about the police waiting at the bottom of the hill and giving chicken shit ticket to speeding vehicles, while right across the street tons of illegals selling contraband stuff and even food with impunity, without any license or inspection.
They have been doing that shit for years. I used to live in Orange County and commuted to work by motorcycle ever day. There was a long, straight stretch of road on my commute that the cops would set up at the end of, hidden in a turnout with their radar detectors. They set up there because they knew people would tend to speed up on that wide open, straight section. I knew they were almost always there so I would always watch my speed on that stretch. Because I was on a motorcycle they had a special hard on for me and they would radar me the whole way even when cars were passing me.
875 is insane, but littering should be a crime.
Not all CA police. Palm Springs is extremely cucked.
That ticket was bullshit. But hey smokers, those cigarette butts don't just magically disappear when you drop them on the ground. It's crazy that people who would never litter think that this is somehow ok.
I smoke, too, so don't think I'm on a highhorse.
The good news is that every time you fight a ticket in court, it costs the municipality money. Infraction court system are designed around most people being too busy/lazy to fight a ticket.
So you fight this ticket as follows:
And even after they hear the case, then appeal it and fight it there too. Ends up costing the state money when all is said and done. If everyone does it, the state has to start dismissing tickets because they can't calendar them all or hire more judges to oversee them.
Where do you think the state gets its money? Even if you win, everyone except the state still loses.
Yeah but you clog the system up. Time to break California.
They couldn't care less. Everything will always be at the taxpayer's expense as long as the Democrats are in power. The only option is to boot them out, but as long as people in key areas are doing well enough to be insulated from their own idiotic policies, they'll never learn and keep voting for them.
At least in California, they can't just arbitrarily raise taxes an unlimited amount due to Prop 13. At the end of the year, if the program isn't revenue-neutral, cuts have to be made. Many municipalities have tried to streamline the ticket review process just for this reason. In LA you can't even request a court trial until you submit to two levels of online/mail review first with 14-day reply windows in an attempt to get you to miss the request window.
Wouldn't that be a case for obstruction of justice /right to speedy trial, given they are intentionally delaying your ability to request a trial with this review and strict time limit, which they can decide to take their sweet ass time to assess your review?
The initial reviews are termed "administrative hearings" to make them technically count as a "trial" for the purposes of the law, even though there is no actual hearing and it's just some low-level employee pressing the Deny button on every claim that comes in.
They actually respond very quickly, often within a day, because again their entire process is to deny everything and force you go to court to present a defense, in the hopes you are from out of town or don't want to deal with the headache of their overcrowded courts.
You can tell they only care about the money because even though the law says for fix-it tickets you have to submit proof of correction, if you submit payment without it they mark it closed anyway.
They are trying to repeal Prop 13 this year for commercial and industrial properties. Eventually they will repeal it entirely.
Yep, they do the same thing here in Oregon.
I've had tickets dropped before in California just for emailing the department and threatening to force the issue, it's happened at least twice in two different cities
We've seen this policing model before. Things like traffic citations magically increase drastically near the end of the budget cycle.
For real though. They are taking huge chunks out of my payhcheck.
And you need federal help.
This place is a hell hole
I don't think anyone who lives in California is not aware that people abuse each other. The state is fully of shit head people who constantly do bad things to one another.
FIGHT IT
It's getting pretty weird for sure, I noticed tons of highway patrol everywhere all of a sudden. Normally it's the wild west with basically no law enforcement to be seen.
The other day (not in California) I saw a revenuer parked looking for speeders and hunting for revenue. I didn’t have Waze turned on, so I actually got off the highway and made a loop so I could pass the spot again and mark it as a speed trap. I probably added seven minutes to my drive, but I had time to spare.
The police- The Armed Revenue Collection Division of Municipal Government.
maybe california's plan to get money is to send all the government employees around to businesses and legally steal $900 each
Sue, none of this is constitutional. I don't imagine any of these citations would hold up in court.
DISCLAIMER: Not a lawyer
Should have shown the pussy ass cops name.
Bottom of the image of citation ticket shows the officers last name and department they are in.
For real though what happens if you just don't pay it?
One thousand? Cop can't even write down the correct numbers.
It's going to be 1776 in CA soon.