Muslims are terrorist sympathisers and deserve no place in America.
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You’re allowed to worship however you want. UNTIL that comes into conflict with U.S. law. That’s the differentiator.
Religions are fine. When your religion becomes a socio-political system, and everyone around you has to adjust themselves to your whims, that’s a problem.
Deport them all. Send them somewhere where they'll be happy, mecca
The holy scriptures of the Islamic prophet Mohammed prescribe a factually-based, just and desirable treatment of persons with two X chromosomes.
In other words...
Thing is, Islam cannot co-exist with any other faith. It's in their indoctrination to kill or convert all non-Muslims. They can't cherry-pick what parts of the Quran they do/don't believe nor do they bother too, so none can be trusted.
Why wear a burka, and call yourself a Muslim if you know Muhammad is gonna be pissed off at you for not following his bat-shit rules to a T?
"...because they are not orthodox or extreme enough." That?
Okay, you got me on the Old Testament bit. I got nothing.
Well, regardless of that, I cede.
The thing is, you cant invent a religion that has sacraments of child-rape, slavery, terrorism, mutilation and torture and then use the 1st amendment to hide behind and claim that all practices of your religion are lawful and protected even when they are all crimes.
Thats exactly what muslims are doing. And yes, it really is all muslims. Where are the muslims that denounce their prophet as a rapist, as a scumbag murderer and slaver? All objectively true things as documented in their Koran. Protip, these types of muslim dont exist. So yes, it really is all muslims.
I guess the topic didn't come up with the people you fought beside?
Its pretty hard to label any of them good, or do you think that slavery, mutilation, rape etc are virtuous and noble acts? They think they are, since their prophet did these things. How you equate that with your perceptions of them being good people?
You know how they have 'honour killings'? Thats what muslims do when they find one of their own kind doesn't embrace all the evils they adhere to. By this means they keep being a monolith since they kill those who differ. So are a self-regulating crime gang in every sense.
Since I'm 'ignorant as shit', feel free to go ahead and find the errors and flaws in what I just said.
If there were records of americans being fat, lazy, dumb and violent for the last thousand years, then that might be a valid comparison. Muslims have been criminals for over a thousand years, and closer to 1400 years. Think about what that means, slavers and rapists for all of that time, never relenting or reforming or ceasing being that way. All of these crimes happening in all the countries and territories they occupy for those years. For all their faults, they have uniformity and consistency, its a shame that they are consistent in a truly rotten way.
For someone to insist that now things are different, it would take a staggering and compelling piece of evidence to make a call like that with all due honesty and intellectual rigour. Like all imams deciding to get together and burn korans for example, and tear down mosques. I don't see it happening soon quite frankly if the previous millennia is any guide.
What's happening in more modern times with the peshmerga is a mirror image of what happened with the taliban in afghanistan not too long ago, and would have been the same with the 'free syrian army' if mcstain and the other swamp goons were left free to break syria and take down the secular govt of assad. And we know how the taliban turned out.
The best thing i can say about muslims and their sectarian conflicts is, at least they like killing each other in their own states, and while doing this they normally leave the civilised world alone. If only this was still the case.
Agreed, this isnt the time or the place, but its a beautiful thing that we can agree to disagree on things without it needing to go further. Best wishes to you and yours.
"The peaceful majority are irrelevant" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s
So by your logic, if someone claims to be a nazi that doesnt automatically make them a bad person? Did you watch the video?
That reasoning is circular and non sequitur. I never said that all muslims are evil or even that all nazis were evil. Quit the opposite in fact. Again, did you watch the video?
Yeah, but how do we tell them apart, given that public policy can only be so nuanced?
Going by your name, you're still somewhat in chrysalis form.. 👍 You'll get there.
America wasn't founded so every yayhoo could worship every random deity .. just the way one of several dozen hack poems about the Statue of Liberty being lauded by communists and made into a plaque doesn't mean America was designed as a dumping ground for the failed, sick, lazy, and illiterate jetsam of every mismanaged foreign shthole.
Americas settlers were Reformation Protestant Christians, period. The various different versions of that same thing were all escaping the State-Ran Mandatory religiosities of both Catholicism and (its doppelganger) the Church of England.
(Both of which, like China, requiring in some proportion that their church was The One, .. other churches were Illegal, .. any opinion to the contrary was Dissent, .. and every citizen was Required to attend the State-Church or else be punished by the government, which owned it.)
"America was created so that people could worship whatever God they wanted without fear of persecution"
PROSECUTION, actually. But it wasn't 'all', and it wasn't 'whatever'. Those are remaining echoes from a lifetime of Leftist indoctrination.
Track down what the Founders and the first several US presidents had to say about Islam, and Muslims as potential fellow citizens, for a mind-expanding very different knowledge base.
"Dude..... America was founded on freedom not tyranny"
Touchè?? (🤔)
Anyway, .. I went to do the search I suggested for you. Many pedes lately have been remarking how Google (and any engine that uses it) is cucked to hell and back, and that they had to go to Duckduckgo to flippin find anything.
This subject of Founders and Islam has been so heavily blackholed in the last several years that Duckduckgo is hit and miss on it, too. I mean frankly I'm shocked.
There were absolutely Myriad examples of your NYT distortion, WaPo, Politico, History, TheConversation (whatever that is), etc etc etc.
But, short version .. it's findable if you know what you're looking for.
It was fashionable before the founding of the US to be read-of Islam from a particular French translation .. which (for factual density) could have easily come from NYT or WaPo.
Garbage in, Garbage out. Most Western people of wealth had read this and (prior to the 1780s) thought it was real. Their writings from that period reflect their misinformation.
(and modern anti-West / anti-Christian leftism loves to quote it)
But when Jefferson (and the rest) had to actually Deal with them .. it quickly involved millions of dollars (huge money at the time) in extortion, threats that they wanted more bribes - forever, the taking of around a million European slaves, pompous pontificating about how all lands are sinners, they must bend to Muh Prophet or be killed, a declaration of Naval action, an overly asinine war, and then updated writings about how .. in Practice .. it was a religion of monsters and the only medium for dealing with it was War.
(NYT / WaPo don't seem as keen to write about the updated direct exprience quotes.)
No one has tried to argue versus that.
But what you said was "America was created so that people could worship whatever god they wanted" ..
... and, Pro Tip: That's a lot of Communist / Ecumenical horseshit.
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🤦♂️🤦♂️ Again, Captain Goalpost-Shifter, ... nobody argued anything about 'egalitarianism'.
The -fact- (absorb it or simply keep it in your apparently well-lubed Muslim hole) is that the British colonies here, and America after them, weren't formed by 'egalitarians' debating how 'Islam is actually pretty cool'.
They were formed by Christian Protestants, Period. It wasn't an experiment in making an ecumenical melting pot, as if anything ever could be.
And, although TPTB are making it hella-harder to find, the first moment that our Founder's had to actually interact with Islam they recognized it as the purview of monsters and said the only way to deal with it was war.
They aren't 'equivalent' as elements of a free society.
If you can't get that 🙊🙉🙈 then you're still part of the problem.
Not shit on but you made a point that I want to expand on. You seem to acknowledge that you can only account for the "secular" "non orthodox" and "non extreme" forms of Islam. Unfortunately the more adherent you become to the ideology of Islam the less compatible you become with western society.
"It's not very western to stone adulterers anymore"
That was Old Testament, .. the advent of Christ set forth the New Covenant, so, yeah, the West hasn't done that for a couple thousand years.
ISLAM, in the other hand, borrows much of its content from an Abrahamic root and still does it as we speak.