You say obedience muzzle. I say, just friggen wear it when buying your chicken tendies. It's not a bad idea during any bad flu season, and that's all this is. Or can you not be inconvenienced enough to do basic hygiene such as washing your hands after using the restroom? Is that so much to ask for?
If you are exposed daily as an HCP, and within policy, by all means. I lived in fear when HIV was new. It was YEARS before we knew much of anything about it. The morbidity of covid is too low to justify masks unless you have underlying conditions. Yes, former HCP. Masks seem to your thing. That won't be popular here.
The morbidity of covid is too low to justify masks unless you have underlying conditions
Literally all that I am asking for is you to choose, not be forced, to wear a mask at times when in crowds it would be prudent to do so in. that's not a lot to ask
Sorry, in my education for charting there are a select few abbreviations accepted. HCP is not one of them. Google it. I did find healthcare provider as a possible answer. That's not one taught by or used by our industry. Sorry if i'm not caught up in your tik toc lingo, so much as abbreviating 'patient' as 'PT' is frowned upon in my line of work because it could be mistaken for 'physical therapy'. I prefer to just type the whole word, as recommended by my educators, because i'm not a lazy as fuck millennial.
Search for it on Duckduckgo, is what you meant. Clearly you're not a pede.
As for the rest of what you typed, you lost all credibility when you started advocating for wearing unneeded masks and agreeing with that leftist troll Booleh.
...because I'm not a lazy as fuck millennial
So I guess all other generations that used abbreviations in their line of work were lazy, too?
I'm well aware of duckduckgo and it is my default search engine, however when used as a verb 'google it' happens to have much more widespread understanding of meaning.
Or do you want to continue arguing semantics as of why you can't be bothered to be inconvenienced to wear a mask when in crowds? How about addressing some of the points made in my write up rather than herp derp HCP TIK TOK pedantics?
if masks work why six feet apart? If six feet apart works, why require masks. Besides, it's already known the masks don't work. Or let me guess, you don't remember when the misleadia flip-flopped from "wear masks", to "they don't work", and back to "wear masks"? How convenient.
I spoon fed you 2 links, first link a TLDR and second link for if you want to read further on the point i was making. The first link was on a first grade level of understanding, the second link was based on a study from the 'New England Journal of Medicine'. I can't help it if you are too ignorant to be bothered to read the literature presented before you.
Or let me guess, you don't remember when the misleadia flip-flopped from "wear masks", to "they don't work", and back to "wear masks"? How convenient.
nice job following the MSM WHO (chinese health organization) narrative, how stunningly intellectual of you
edit: Added WHO stuff. Might i remind you, GEOTUS pulled funding from the WHO precisely for the reasons you are arguing for
This isn't about politics, the corona response, who's to blame... It's about where we are right now. It's about going forward, reopening america, MAGA.
There's an epidemic from a viral pathogen that has swept the globe. It's weird; it acts differently from similar viruses, it started in CHYNUH in a lab in the Wuhan providence, it's related to a bat, it may be the catalyst for WW3. It has weird medical ailments, hydroxychloroquine probably helps and the media turned an old established medication into something akin to using uranium as healing crystals. It was predicted to be an unprecedented calamity and turned out to be...not that. It's weird times, frens.
I'm a father, a husband, and nurse. I love being a nurse. I have a passion for my family, for helping heal people, for liberty, for my country. The economic response led me to be a stay at home dad, and now I have way too much time on my hands. Some people paint, some read, I'm trying my hand at writing and am humbly requesting my thoughts be considered.
We are divided in america. This is nothing new for modern history. This is by design, and it is the swamp. It is what fake news wants us to be. There was a threat of a pandemic, GEOTUS went on the offensive early. He hoped he could stop it, he certainly did his best. Travel bans were put in place. Ventilators ordered, ICU capacity increased. PPE went into mass production. Thank you, Donald Trump, for doing what you could. It saved lives.
As well intending as GEOTUS' optimism was, the pathogen did reach our great shores. The war came home. But it was not as the doom sayers said, we are a strong people. Ventilators were plenty and ICU beds were no where close to lacking. Navy ships were stationed by major port cities and the Army Corp of Engineers built hospitals to be used on the front lines. This was an admirable response, prudent and ultimately, unnecessary. Thank God. Many want to say we should've done more, but given the time frame I say we did a damn good job. Models and predictions be damned, overall we blew them all away. The American Covid Response was a resounding success to date.
But here we are, we need to go back to work. We need states productive. Regardless of political affiliation, we all can agree at some point we have to reopen; we have to go back to work. Otherwise we all will starve.
Some want to continue lock down, some see it as a chance to grab power. A way to herd the sheeple, a way to divide the people. A way to get a mentally crippled democratic candidate a snow balls chance of dethroning GEOTUS. It will not work.
Now, we're past all that and are where we are now. States are reopening, that cannot be stopped. They would like to stop it, hold onto this power they grabbed, but we aren't having it. We are past fear, ignorance, we are moving forward as we should. But, what is prudent? Surely, denying the threat that GEOTUS worked so hard to mitigate is not something to deny. Surely this was not for naught. Nay, what we did thus far, while admittedly an overreaction, was to save lives. And we did. We gave healthcare a needed amount of time to prepare for the worst and thankfully the worst did not occur. So why did i start with a pepe wearing a mask and links advocating the usage of such masks?
Because it's common sense. We don't need government to tell us to wash our hands, we don't need police standing in public restrooms demanding we wash our hands after we poo, we will do it because we are an educated people. I have respect for the American people to...well...wash their hands after using the bathrooms. It is widely recommended we wash and sanitize our hands when possible. As there should be no opposition to wearing a face mask when prudent.
As referenced in my links above, it's not about protecting yourself from being exposed to a pathogen but more from reducing exposure to those around the carriers. Stop this fight on masks, it's silly. We don't need a governor mandating we wear masks, we need our people to understand it's basic hygiene. If you are in crowded area, wear a mask. It's not a lot to ask. It's not something government should demand. We should, as a people, deny fear of the pathogen, be educated, and understand in some situations it only makes sense to wear one. This is not a political issue, it's evolution of understanding of basic human hygiene. So what if you are uncomfortable for 30 minutes of grocery shopping, whether it's the CHYNUH plague or peak flu season, when in big crowds of people wear a mask. If you can't wear one for whatever reason, then those around you help prevent your exposure to a potentially debilitating pathogen. This is not a hill we should die on, not worth the fight. We have bigger issues at stake.
Wearing a mask in crowded public spaces during any time of knowing there is an airborne pathogen causing illness is a good idea. COVID is nothing more than a slightly more severe flu. More communicable and deadly than the flu. Why not wear a mask during flu season in crowded spaces? It would do nothing but reduce health care costs, prevent illness and even save lives. At what expense? Mild discomfort for a few minutes? Is this the hill you want to die on? Or is this the hill they want us to fight over?
So yes, please choose to wear a face mask in crowded public settings when prudent. And push back against tyrants who demand it or any violation of liberty and freedom with repercussion of a boot to the neck. Knowledge over fear, love over hate.
MAGA.
Health Care Practitioner/Provider If you really were one, you would know that. Fuck off yourself chi com globo-homo maskfucker.
I literally attacked the chi com in my write up and alluded to them being responsible for this whole ordeal. And no, HCP=healthcare provider is not an accepted abbreviation in any form of charting i've ever been educated in.
Oh the doctors not 2 months ago said masks were useless? Or the doctors who said it would kill 2.2 million people. Doctors aren't gods, they can be biased and wrong just like everyone.
And reading comprehension (or reading, period) seems not to be your forte, either. Here, all nice and quoted just for you:
Royal Victoria Hospital’s Director of Safety, Security, and Occupational Health Cathy Clark says masks like the N-95 wouldn’t even protect you from COVID-19 anyway
Apparently, our other comment thread won't take any more replies, so I'll just pick up this little gem to point out the gall of your trying the ad hominem card after an entire thread's worth of you moodily cussing at others and attacking their character.
Truly, self-awareness to match your reading comprehension and ability to follow a train of thought.
Ah, ok. Yeah, i mean the ignorance is strong here on this subject. I just hope knowing that it is a big uphill battle, to influence the zeitgeist in the direction of knowledge over ignorance. It's trivial, but as i said in my post i have too much time on my hands.
I debate people here and on on r/politics as well. It seems the battlecry of "BE REASONABLE" is so hard for many to understand.
You made decent points but most not in the mood for reasonable. Look, IMO there are far too many enjoying the control and power of dictating behaviors of others. We gave them months to figure it out. Masks good......masks bad.... millions dead......millions not dead. They squandered trust. Now it is too late. Wu Flu or not people will rebel against the Karens, authoritarians, and face mask fascists particularly in the Blue states.
You made decent points but most not in the mood for reasonable. Look, IMO there are far too many enjoying the control and power of dictating behaviors of others
A very true statement. But too often i hear this defeatist mindset, i refuse to believe that the American people are beyond saving. We have far more in common than we are led to believe, and I refuse to believe that the average thedonald.win user is beyond comprehension of the overall picture I am trying to paint. This fight over wearing masks is manufactured and designed by the swamp to further sow dissent amongst our ranks.
We all want the same thing, MAGA. If you have better ideas to espouse i'm all ears.
Hey, assessing the mood of like minded on the team is hardly defeatist mindset and I'm sorry to say that many American people are beyond saving which is why the focus is on the savable. The pushback on masks is a result of distrust from losing faith in government agencies as a result of the incompetence, lies, agendas, and lack of logic. They insulted our intelligence. Months later we collectively know far more about the disease, who it targets, and the lethality based on the numbers. Free people should have the choice to wear or not wear. Stay home and lock down or not. Right now, big government agencies tasked with public health have a lot of egg on their faces and a whole lot of reforms are needed to restore any kind of credibility.
How do you do, fellow caterpillars. Please remember to wear your obedience muzzle. Praise big government.
You say obedience muzzle. I say, just friggen wear it when buying your chicken tendies. It's not a bad idea during any bad flu season, and that's all this is. Or can you not be inconvenienced enough to do basic hygiene such as washing your hands after using the restroom? Is that so much to ask for?
If you are sick with flu/cold, wear mask in public to not spread it. Other than that, no.
If you are exposed daily as an HCP, and within policy, by all means. I lived in fear when HIV was new. It was YEARS before we knew much of anything about it. The morbidity of covid is too low to justify masks unless you have underlying conditions. Yes, former HCP. Masks seem to your thing. That won't be popular here.
First, can you please define HCP? Seocond,
Literally all that I am asking for is you to choose, not be forced, to wear a mask at times when in crowds it would be prudent to do so in. that's not a lot to ask
edit: HCP = healthcare professional?
You: I'm a nurse
Also you: Can you define HCP, please?
You're so full of shit. Lmao.
Sorry, in my education for charting there are a select few abbreviations accepted. HCP is not one of them. Google it. I did find healthcare provider as a possible answer. That's not one taught by or used by our industry. Sorry if i'm not caught up in your tik toc lingo, so much as abbreviating 'patient' as 'PT' is frowned upon in my line of work because it could be mistaken for 'physical therapy'. I prefer to just type the whole word, as recommended by my educators, because i'm not a lazy as fuck millennial.
Search for it on Duckduckgo, is what you meant. Clearly you're not a pede.
As for the rest of what you typed, you lost all credibility when you started advocating for wearing unneeded masks and agreeing with that leftist troll Booleh.
So I guess all other generations that used abbreviations in their line of work were lazy, too?
I'm well aware of duckduckgo and it is my default search engine, however when used as a verb 'google it' happens to have much more widespread understanding of meaning.
Or do you want to continue arguing semantics as of why you can't be bothered to be inconvenienced to wear a mask when in crowds? How about addressing some of the points made in my write up rather than herp derp HCP TIK TOK pedantics?
You could also say "look it up". "Google it" isn't the only term that exists when it comes to synonyms of "research it".
Tell me, if masks work why six feet apart? If six feet apart works, why require masks? Besides, it's already known the masks don't work.
Or let me guess, you don't remember when the misleadia flip-flopped from "wear masks", to "they don't work", and back to "wear masks"? How convenient.
spez:
Said the 'nurse', as well as the person drinking the misleadia Kool-Aid. Just stop.
I spoon fed you 2 links, first link a TLDR and second link for if you want to read further on the point i was making. The first link was on a first grade level of understanding, the second link was based on a study from the 'New England Journal of Medicine'. I can't help it if you are too ignorant to be bothered to read the literature presented before you.
nice job following the MSM WHO (chinese health organization) narrative, how stunningly intellectual of you
edit: Added WHO stuff. Might i remind you, GEOTUS pulled funding from the WHO precisely for the reasons you are arguing for
My freedom doesn't end where your fear begins.
Tater is samefagging hard. He's a leftist shill, for sure.
Lefty shill working with another user also.
Go fuck yourself, you actual retard
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/11/66/67/19361245/3/460x1240.jpg
https://masksnow.org/million-healthcare-workers-letter/
This isn't about politics, the corona response, who's to blame... It's about where we are right now. It's about going forward, reopening america, MAGA.
There's an epidemic from a viral pathogen that has swept the globe. It's weird; it acts differently from similar viruses, it started in CHYNUH in a lab in the Wuhan providence, it's related to a bat, it may be the catalyst for WW3. It has weird medical ailments, hydroxychloroquine probably helps and the media turned an old established medication into something akin to using uranium as healing crystals. It was predicted to be an unprecedented calamity and turned out to be...not that. It's weird times, frens.
I'm a father, a husband, and nurse. I love being a nurse. I have a passion for my family, for helping heal people, for liberty, for my country. The economic response led me to be a stay at home dad, and now I have way too much time on my hands. Some people paint, some read, I'm trying my hand at writing and am humbly requesting my thoughts be considered.
We are divided in america. This is nothing new for modern history. This is by design, and it is the swamp. It is what fake news wants us to be. There was a threat of a pandemic, GEOTUS went on the offensive early. He hoped he could stop it, he certainly did his best. Travel bans were put in place. Ventilators ordered, ICU capacity increased. PPE went into mass production. Thank you, Donald Trump, for doing what you could. It saved lives.
As well intending as GEOTUS' optimism was, the pathogen did reach our great shores. The war came home. But it was not as the doom sayers said, we are a strong people. Ventilators were plenty and ICU beds were no where close to lacking. Navy ships were stationed by major port cities and the Army Corp of Engineers built hospitals to be used on the front lines. This was an admirable response, prudent and ultimately, unnecessary. Thank God. Many want to say we should've done more, but given the time frame I say we did a damn good job. Models and predictions be damned, overall we blew them all away. The American Covid Response was a resounding success to date.
But here we are, we need to go back to work. We need states productive. Regardless of political affiliation, we all can agree at some point we have to reopen; we have to go back to work. Otherwise we all will starve.
Some want to continue lock down, some see it as a chance to grab power. A way to herd the sheeple, a way to divide the people. A way to get a mentally crippled democratic candidate a snow balls chance of dethroning GEOTUS. It will not work.
Now, we're past all that and are where we are now. States are reopening, that cannot be stopped. They would like to stop it, hold onto this power they grabbed, but we aren't having it. We are past fear, ignorance, we are moving forward as we should. But, what is prudent? Surely, denying the threat that GEOTUS worked so hard to mitigate is not something to deny. Surely this was not for naught. Nay, what we did thus far, while admittedly an overreaction, was to save lives. And we did. We gave healthcare a needed amount of time to prepare for the worst and thankfully the worst did not occur. So why did i start with a pepe wearing a mask and links advocating the usage of such masks?
Because it's common sense. We don't need government to tell us to wash our hands, we don't need police standing in public restrooms demanding we wash our hands after we poo, we will do it because we are an educated people. I have respect for the American people to...well...wash their hands after using the bathrooms. It is widely recommended we wash and sanitize our hands when possible. As there should be no opposition to wearing a face mask when prudent.
As referenced in my links above, it's not about protecting yourself from being exposed to a pathogen but more from reducing exposure to those around the carriers. Stop this fight on masks, it's silly. We don't need a governor mandating we wear masks, we need our people to understand it's basic hygiene. If you are in crowded area, wear a mask. It's not a lot to ask. It's not something government should demand. We should, as a people, deny fear of the pathogen, be educated, and understand in some situations it only makes sense to wear one. This is not a political issue, it's evolution of understanding of basic human hygiene. So what if you are uncomfortable for 30 minutes of grocery shopping, whether it's the CHYNUH plague or peak flu season, when in big crowds of people wear a mask. If you can't wear one for whatever reason, then those around you help prevent your exposure to a potentially debilitating pathogen. This is not a hill we should die on, not worth the fight. We have bigger issues at stake.
Wearing a mask in crowded public spaces during any time of knowing there is an airborne pathogen causing illness is a good idea. COVID is nothing more than a slightly more severe flu. More communicable and deadly than the flu. Why not wear a mask during flu season in crowded spaces? It would do nothing but reduce health care costs, prevent illness and even save lives. At what expense? Mild discomfort for a few minutes? Is this the hill you want to die on? Or is this the hill they want us to fight over?
So yes, please choose to wear a face mask in crowded public settings when prudent. And push back against tyrants who demand it or any violation of liberty and freedom with repercussion of a boot to the neck. Knowledge over fear, love over hate. MAGA.
Former HCP. Go back to reddit.
Health Care Practitioner/Provider If you really were one, you would know that.
Fuck off yourself chi com globo-homo maskfucker.
I literally attacked the chi com in my write up and alluded to them being responsible for this whole ordeal. And no, HCP=healthcare provider is not an accepted abbreviation in any form of charting i've ever been educated in.
Some of us are basking in retirement.
Don't bother with that leftist clown. Just hit deport, and move on.
Or just not afraid of a virus with a 99.999% survival rate...
You worry about protecting yourself.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gracemarieturner/2020/05/22/600-physicians-say-lockdowns-are-a-mass-casualty-incident/#75e86ed950fa
...faggot
Rekt
Oh the doctors not 2 months ago said masks were useless? Or the doctors who said it would kill 2.2 million people. Doctors aren't gods, they can be biased and wrong just like everyone.
Yeah, they did and the misleadia regurgitated it. You know, before jumping back on the "obey" bandwagon.
You're not very good at this... are you?
And reading comprehension (or reading, period) seems not to be your forte, either. Here, all nice and quoted just for you:
Carry on like a nice little shill, now.
Who do you mean by they in
I stand by, i hope, the people of thedonald.win are worth reasoning with. I'm worth reasoning with.
So lousy you are being down voted A LOT. How about you take your pro mask show to Reddit. They love masks on R/politics
Wrong. Your pushing for compliance is the only thing that's selfish.
Please, keep advocating for the New World Order.
Well instead of staying here with your unpopular opinion and unnecessary insults you find a place that welcomes you. Stop trolling Shill.
Apparently, our other comment thread won't take any more replies, so I'll just pick up this little gem to point out the gall of your trying the ad hominem card after an entire thread's worth of you moodily cussing at others and attacking their character.
Truly, self-awareness to match your reading comprehension and ability to follow a train of thought.
Ah, ok. Yeah, i mean the ignorance is strong here on this subject. I just hope knowing that it is a big uphill battle, to influence the zeitgeist in the direction of knowledge over ignorance. It's trivial, but as i said in my post i have too much time on my hands.
I debate people here and on on r/politics as well. It seems the battlecry of "BE REASONABLE" is so hard for many to understand.
You made decent points but most not in the mood for reasonable. Look, IMO there are far too many enjoying the control and power of dictating behaviors of others. We gave them months to figure it out. Masks good......masks bad.... millions dead......millions not dead. They squandered trust. Now it is too late. Wu Flu or not people will rebel against the Karens, authoritarians, and face mask fascists particularly in the Blue states.
A very true statement. But too often i hear this defeatist mindset, i refuse to believe that the American people are beyond saving. We have far more in common than we are led to believe, and I refuse to believe that the average thedonald.win user is beyond comprehension of the overall picture I am trying to paint. This fight over wearing masks is manufactured and designed by the swamp to further sow dissent amongst our ranks.
We all want the same thing, MAGA. If you have better ideas to espouse i'm all ears.
Hey, assessing the mood of like minded on the team is hardly defeatist mindset and I'm sorry to say that many American people are beyond saving which is why the focus is on the savable. The pushback on masks is a result of distrust from losing faith in government agencies as a result of the incompetence, lies, agendas, and lack of logic. They insulted our intelligence. Months later we collectively know far more about the disease, who it targets, and the lethality based on the numbers. Free people should have the choice to wear or not wear. Stay home and lock down or not. Right now, big government agencies tasked with public health have a lot of egg on their faces and a whole lot of reforms are needed to restore any kind of credibility.
Only you are responsible for your own safety and protection.