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Wexit-Delecto 0 points ago +1 / -1

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Which is why you're caught screaming about "Why are China's death numbers so hard to believe?" and "These faked numbers are more accurate than those faked numbers? On what basis?"

Because apparently you've never read 1984 or understand how pervasive Commie book cooking is, much less how either side arrived at their numbers.

My complaint is that everyone expects China's numbers to be sky high. But this expectation assumes there is something to be dying of in the first place. There isn't, beyond a regular flu season. I take no issue with anyone calling the CPC liars, as they are that.

The wrong numbers of COVID deaths and infections in the US, UK, and other nations are based off of normal recording- along with "normal" mistakes like miscounting, double counting, or massaging the numbers to get them low- that are then skewed after the fact using number games, such as slapping normal Flu deaths as WuFlu deaths.

But the wrong numbers for COVID deaths and infections from the CCP have the "added bonus" of coming from a totalitarian dictatorship that is not shy about COMPLETELY INVENTING numbers from whole cloth and is not about to provide any evidence or external review whatsoever. And who are willing to do stuff like vanish people into literal incinerators in the same way that they lie about the US having the largest per capita prison population by pretending that Commie Party Laogai and secretive Blacksites don't exist.

That's the basis for why the West's faked numbers are more accurate than ChiCom faked numbers. As you'd know if you thought about it for five seconds.

Neither number is accurate, and so both form a very poor basis from which to try and discern the reality. As does the assumption that there "must" be more Wuhan flu deaths than have been reported. Since the whole thing's a hoax, Wuhan flu deaths are universally over-reported. They should be 0 across the board (and the deaths properly attributed to gunshot wounds, the flu, etc.)

Firstly: Argument from Ignorance is also a logical fallacy, and it amounts to almost everything you've done in this conversation

Yet we arrived at the same conclusion (that the Wuhan flu is just a flu)? Also, that isn't a logical fallacy, it (assuming it happened, which it didn't) is an incorrect apprehension of the facts. Once can have unimpeachable logic with incorrect facts (which isn't what I'm saying I have here).

Secondly: You're confusing the Argument from Authority fallacy with assessing information gotten by and presented by "So-Called" Experts. Which one can then analyze.

You implied I'm not qualified to review the statistics, and you are, because you volunteer and assume I don't (I don't).

It was a naked appeal to authority.

Instead of drawing upon your vast experience as a volunteer, you should have referred to statistics. But those all agree with me, so I see why you didn't.

Except the Wuhan COVID research was almost certainly not Bioweapons research.

Firstly because it was the study of a naturally occurring disease, secondly because even in its current form its lethality is so low (and the CCP showed so little ability to control it, hence the staff infections Laowhy's video covered), and thirdly because Most Bio Research isn't Bioweapons Research.

What the fuck? I suggest you go read up on the USSR's research into naturally occurring smallpox. When creating bioweapons, they don't start from scratch. They peruse nature's best hits, then try to remix and remaster.

The commies probably chose something related to the common cold for maximum spread, not realizing that the mechanism by which viruses spread universally neuters any severe effects of that virus. God probably had to make it that way or else civilization-ending pandemics would be a certainty.

For the same reason your average GMO isn't trying to create the next biological nuke. That stuff has other utilities than trying to come up with yet another rare white elephant doomsday weapon that is a niche at best.

I'm open to ideas as to the utility of a highly infectious novel virus!