Either Dr. Fauci was wrong which would mean they gave Trump bad information and he acted properly. OR Trump saved millions. Trump played this to win no matter which side you believed.
It’s insane to me he always sets himself up in a position that no matter which way it goes it’s a win for him and libs still can’t figure out why they are losing.
Yes but if we’d kept the borders open and gotten on cruise ships then shut the whole country down permanently until arrival of the mandatory vaccine, things would have been great.
He knew this was going to be the new impeachment hoax from the start. Love how he keeps drilling this into their heads every time he speaks. The Dems so wanted him not to take action, to fire Fauci and the dems were obviously trying to set him up but Trump was way ahead of their game.
Putting the shutdown on the governor's will go down in history as the political move that saved this country..so many people now awake..so many new Trump voters
4d chess. He knows the original models are bullshit and they're still using them to keep states locked down. So he might as well use them to say he saved 2 million lives.
Good way to look at it - I love President Trump, grateful for him every day - but this virus was never so deadly - I guess he couldn't get good enough information soon enough to matter - and the world-wide thing made everything complicated.
Love Trump and generally agree with his approach to WuFlu, but this thing was never going to kill a million people. I hasn't REALLY killed 100,000 if we were being honest with the numbers.
I just wish he would kick Fauci to the curb. I was aghast to see Dr. Chicken Little on a public service announcement over the weekend saying "We need to keep doing XYZ and ABC... That means not going to bars, not going to restaurants."
Um excuse me?! Those are people's livelihoods. Don't use the government to basically attack a huge number of small business owners. If we're going to get this economy restarted we'll need those service industry people to have jobs and income coming in just like we'll need every other aspect of the economy to resume operations.
Yep. My business is open, but every commercial on TV and op ed online is still telling people they are gonna die. Fuck it, im about to set up a perimeter and create my own commune.
Nah, this person just doesn't understand game theory. Trump has positioned himself to win. Now liberals have to admit that they shouldn't keep their states closed because the models are wrong, or they have to admit he saved 2MM lives
There's got to be some hardball tactics he can move to with the current hostage situation... Maybe some way too 'shoot the hostage' and take away the fascist governors' leverage.
There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO SCIENTIFIC REASON TO STAY LOCKED UP ANYMORE. ZERO.
This fauxdemic has one of the BEST survival rates of a widespread airborne respiratory illness. Widespread and CHEAP therapeutics abound.
Protect the vulnerable, but the rest of HUMANITY needs to start living again ABSOLUTELY RIGHT NOW.
DoJ needs to file civil rights law suits against the guvners who are holding their citizens hostage until November 4 in an effort to blame Trump for their tyranny.
BUT: Trump's lead asshole on health and economic policy, 30 year career bureaucrat and Hillary fanboy Dr. Fauci, is giving the tyrants cover .. "We are just following federal guidelines as outlined by Trump's health/science expert and doing what is best for our state."
Fauci was the ultimate ace in the whole for the Dems. If he removed Fauci, I think he would have been successfully removed from office. So many RINOs would have used the toxic optics drummed up by the media as either an excuse to do it or they wouldn't have been able to withstand the flak and would have had to join in.
Fauci talks all sides of the issue and the press pounces again and again... He needs to speak with one voice about ending this insanity NOW. I fear we have already passed the point of permanent structural damage to society. Previously mentally sound people have been broken to bits and now parade around town with a chinstrap of 'solidarity'...
This. Drastic action is needed now. Every day that this continues is more permanent damage to the economy. Trump absolutely needs to bring this new data to light and call for an end to this madness right now. Playing defensive isn’t going to work. Letting the situation resolve itself will not work, because the left is actively trying to stretch it out indefinitely. Show the HCQ studies. Show people how lockdowns make things worse. Show people that the death rate is low enough to where most people really need not worry.
The only way that this shitshow ends is to blow it to bits. The time to take the offensive is now. Otherwise the left has won.
But muh 40,000 ventilators! But muh ppe for tik tok nurses ! But my need bed space available. Trump delivered on all 3 and people still say trump fucked up
And the Democrats lionized Cuomo, the only non-Chinese person arguably individually responsible for directly causing almost 1/3rd of total U.S. Wuhan Coronavirus deaths by issuing dictats!
If they try to say the models were wrong in response, he can now ask why some governors aren't opening up their states. They either praise him for saving 1.9M lives or they open the economy back up.
The mans a genius, so i wont argue with him on branding and crafting a debate, but I wouldnt even go down this road. Let them say he didnt do enough and then scorched earth these bastards with their own words calling him xenophobic in january.
The MSM/stagnated politicians want everyone to forget they were against a shutdown and supported Commie Chyna. Doubled down so hard like they wanted more people to die? 🤔
Do you all realize that if Hillary was president, no one would have died! ZERO DEATHS!!! ZERO!!! From anything!!! We would all be immortal!!! And we would be energy independent, running off rainbows and unicorn farts!
Leftists: "You shut down the border because you are exactly what Joe Biden said you are, a racist xenophobe. I would rather die of Corona Virus than be a racist xenophobe."
He has used their hype measures against them. They tried to screw him with this 2 million dead bullshit to scare the public, the virus wasn't that bad, so now Trump gets to take the credit for the success against this "Deadly virus", the alternative is the media admitting they are liars and they over hyped the virus.
I still think the 2M number was highly exaggerated but I also believe less lives were lost under GEOTUS' leadership than would have been under any other candidate.
Trump's experience and understanding of construction and logistics were invaluable here.
That number is fake as fuck, just like the annual flu number
Not Trump's fault, he knows the deal, he has to play along
They intentionally distort the numbers
E.g., mix the flu number with pneumonia, then report the total
If you die WITH flu, it's counted as dying OF flu
Same bullshit they're doing with COVID-1984
Actual death caused by influenza viruses probably about 1% of what's claimed
Is it really that surprising? no
Which is why so few people even know anyone who's died directly of flu and not of one or more comorbidities they had at the same time
Sound familiar? Same deal with 1984?
The flu death total is fabricated partly to boost $ale$ of flu $hot$
Big Pharma loves them, and Big Gov too...very easy to include nasty microscopic electronic stowaways along with that vaccine they've gotten you terrified and robotized into getting every year (which even they admit is only about 50% effective, if that much)
So you buy the shot
It weakens your immune system against other microbes
Then you can still get the flu—maybe a strain you wouldn't have even gotten without the shot (...but it's milder than normal!!)
Then you buy flu meds
Rinse and repeat next season
Constitutional scholar Alan Dershowitz: "You have no right not to get a flu vaccine"...government can hold you down and "plunge a needle into your arm."..."I hope they make [the coronavirus vaccine] mandatory." (Yes, he actually said this.)
Baaaa
Meanwhile am I the only one asking...
If vaccines work so well, and someone is vaccinated because they and their doctor know it's a solution that works...then why does it matter if some other person is unvaccinated?
He didn’t have the quickest travel ban, he didn’t have the slowest. If anything he was above average in his travel ban, as something like 3 dozen important countries banned travel within +/- 3 days of us
I hate this line of attack. I get it to a certain extent - but its also a license to claim what Cuomo and Murphy and Whitmer did was successful. And it wasn't.
Those states did worse then many countries. NYC and NJ - not only did poorly but they are among the worst performers in the entire world.
Lockdowns don't work at all. All we had to do to be even more successful is to keep people away from the elderly and infirm. That is the ONE thing that we should have done.
This disease poses almost zero threat to the average healthy under 70 person.
Trump needs to call attention to this Dem failure. Though maybe he is saving that in case Cuomo runs for president.
It absolutely could happen - Cuomo who killed thousands is a liberal hero. You hear about how Stalin had million of fans. Well Cuomo is that guy now..
So what is it liberals, Trump saves millions of lives or your scientific models are shit?
Either Dr. Fauci was wrong which would mean they gave Trump bad information and he acted properly. OR Trump saved millions. Trump played this to win no matter which side you believed.
Absolutely!
He always plays the long game!
It’s insane to me he always sets himself up in a position that no matter which way it goes it’s a win for him and libs still can’t figure out why they are losing.
To be a self made billionaire you pretty much need to be fantastic and doing just that
Fauci was wrong is the correct answer.
Yes but if we’d kept the borders open and gotten on cruise ships then shut the whole country down permanently until arrival of the mandatory vaccine, things would have been great.
-Agenda 21.
Bill, is that you?
Yes but the people who worship him will never admit that.
Don't worry. The media and Democrats will still find a way to accuse him of murdering thousands.
He knew this was going to be the new impeachment hoax from the start. Love how he keeps drilling this into their heads every time he speaks. The Dems so wanted him not to take action, to fire Fauci and the dems were obviously trying to set him up but Trump was way ahead of their game.
Putting the shutdown on the governor's will go down in history as the political move that saved this country..so many people now awake..so many new Trump voters
I agree. It was the right move and a smart one.
Consider the following:
It’s the level of logical genius you expect from le edgy atheist redditors, but this time it’s political
"I choose option C: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
They'll just play the "despite Trump being president, losses were below expectations because we yelled at everyone to stay home" card.
Because we know its the truth
FOLLOW-UP TWEET
....One person lost to this invisible virus is too much, it should have been stopped at its source, China, but I acted very quickly, and made the right decisions. Many of the current political complainers thought, at the time, that I was moving far to fast, like Crazy Nancy!
4d chess. He knows the original models are bullshit and they're still using them to keep states locked down. So he might as well use them to say he saved 2 million lives.
Yup they can't have it both ways!
Should start combining death counts for all the previous presidents and comparing..
Over 8 years, how many people died of influenza+++ under Obama?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_deaths_by_year#2008
CNN: Why the false models we were using were good for the country!
Good way to look at it - I love President Trump, grateful for him every day - but this virus was never so deadly - I guess he couldn't get good enough information soon enough to matter - and the world-wide thing made everything complicated.
You do not know more than Trump
You do not know anything.
Facts
Here here
Love Trump and generally agree with his approach to WuFlu, but this thing was never going to kill a million people. I hasn't REALLY killed 100,000 if we were being honest with the numbers.
I just wish he would kick Fauci to the curb. I was aghast to see Dr. Chicken Little on a public service announcement over the weekend saying "We need to keep doing XYZ and ABC... That means not going to bars, not going to restaurants."
Um excuse me?! Those are people's livelihoods. Don't use the government to basically attack a huge number of small business owners. If we're going to get this economy restarted we'll need those service industry people to have jobs and income coming in just like we'll need every other aspect of the economy to resume operations.
Yep. My business is open, but every commercial on TV and op ed online is still telling people they are gonna die. Fuck it, im about to set up a perimeter and create my own commune.
Only comment with any sense has the least upvotes.
Nah, this person just doesn't understand game theory. Trump has positioned himself to win. Now liberals have to admit that they shouldn't keep their states closed because the models are wrong, or they have to admit he saved 2MM lives
Nah, you just don't understand being intellectually honest.
I is the FLU. It would have never, ever killed a million people, unless Cuomo was herding them all into NY nursing homes.
There's got to be some hardball tactics he can move to with the current hostage situation... Maybe some way too 'shoot the hostage' and take away the fascist governors' leverage.
There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO SCIENTIFIC REASON TO STAY LOCKED UP ANYMORE. ZERO.
This fauxdemic has one of the BEST survival rates of a widespread airborne respiratory illness. Widespread and CHEAP therapeutics abound.
Protect the vulnerable, but the rest of HUMANITY needs to start living again ABSOLUTELY RIGHT NOW.
DoJ needs to file civil rights law suits against the guvners who are holding their citizens hostage until November 4 in an effort to blame Trump for their tyranny.
BUT: Trump's lead asshole on health and economic policy, 30 year career bureaucrat and Hillary fanboy Dr. Fauci, is giving the tyrants cover .. "We are just following federal guidelines as outlined by Trump's health/science expert and doing what is best for our state."
Fauci was the ultimate ace in the whole for the Dems. If he removed Fauci, I think he would have been successfully removed from office. So many RINOs would have used the toxic optics drummed up by the media as either an excuse to do it or they wouldn't have been able to withstand the flak and would have had to join in.
^^ Here is one that sees the battleground like sensei!
Fauci talks all sides of the issue and the press pounces again and again... He needs to speak with one voice about ending this insanity NOW. I fear we have already passed the point of permanent structural damage to society. Previously mentally sound people have been broken to bits and now parade around town with a chinstrap of 'solidarity'...
BS conditioning.. END IT NOW.
This. Drastic action is needed now. Every day that this continues is more permanent damage to the economy. Trump absolutely needs to bring this new data to light and call for an end to this madness right now. Playing defensive isn’t going to work. Letting the situation resolve itself will not work, because the left is actively trying to stretch it out indefinitely. Show the HCQ studies. Show people how lockdowns make things worse. Show people that the death rate is low enough to where most people really need not worry.
The only way that this shitshow ends is to blow it to bits. The time to take the offensive is now. Otherwise the left has won.
liberal media last seen desperately moving the goal post.
but muh contact tracing!
but muh orange man bad!
But muh 40,000 ventilators! But muh ppe for tik tok nurses ! But my need bed space available. Trump delivered on all 3 and people still say trump fucked up
Can anyone recall the name of the head of RNC? Seems like Trump is single handedly running this entire party as well as the country.
It’s Mitten’s niece. She’s okay sometimes, but usually some shade of neocon cuck for the rest
she helped trump win michigan in 2016. She has distanced herself from Mitt. I think she is good, she tears it up on tv interview/arguments
And the Democrats lionized Cuomo, the only non-Chinese person arguably individually responsible for directly causing almost 1/3rd of total U.S. Wuhan Coronavirus deaths by issuing dictats!
This man will get credit from those who matter the most; us.
He’s on fire. It’s going to be a good week.
Logically, this disaster was all on Dimocrat governors and China.
China for releasing the virus.
And governors of NY, PA and MI for being dumbasses in the handling of nursing homes. FL, TX and other Republican governors didn't have this issue.
Trump did the best work. He protected 45 out of 50 States.
Imagine supporting the CCP just to own Drumpf? Doesn’t get cuckier than that.
If they try to say the models were wrong in response, he can now ask why some governors aren't opening up their states. They either praise him for saving 1.9M lives or they open the economy back up.
For once he's actually lying (for good reasons, baiting them). We wouldn't have lost many more people to this if we had done zero lockdowns.
As President, he couldn't take a chance the models were wrong. We need to be very careful we don't get panicked by flawed models again, however.
With so many snakes hidden in his admin, it's probably very hard to know what info to trust.
The mans a genius, so i wont argue with him on branding and crafting a debate, but I wouldnt even go down this road. Let them say he didnt do enough and then scorched earth these bastards with their own words calling him xenophobic in january.
Endorsing the models just gives credit to the second wave delusion.
Agreed.
About Half of those deaths were from sending people to die and take other people with them at the nursing homes.
NO MORE LAWYERS!
The MSM/stagnated politicians want everyone to forget they were against a shutdown and supported Commie Chyna. Doubled down so hard like they wanted more people to die? 🤔
THIS is the correct talking points. Either he saved 2 million lives or your dumbass predictions and lockdowns were wrong
BTW- where are people getting the 100k deaths?
CDC has 73k Covid deaths.. BUT WAIT THERE'S LESS
"Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1"
Presumed count in the overall number? Why?
Do you all realize that if Hillary was president, no one would have died! ZERO DEATHS!!! ZERO!!! From anything!!! We would all be immortal!!! And we would be energy independent, running off rainbows and unicorn farts!
Leftists: "You shut down the border because you are exactly what Joe Biden said you are, a racist xenophobe. I would rather die of Corona Virus than be a racist xenophobe."
He has used their hype measures against them. They tried to screw him with this 2 million dead bullshit to scare the public, the virus wasn't that bad, so now Trump gets to take the credit for the success against this "Deadly virus", the alternative is the media admitting they are liars and they over hyped the virus.
C
Trump shuts down international travel
Virus starts killing people
I still think the 2M number was highly exaggerated but I also believe less lives were lost under GEOTUS' leadership than would have been under any other candidate.
Trump's experience and understanding of construction and logistics were invaluable here.
Dr Potus
Thank you President Trump. 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸
That number is fake as fuck, just like the annual flu number
Not Trump's fault, he knows the deal, he has to play along
They intentionally distort the numbers
E.g., mix the flu number with pneumonia, then report the total
If you die WITH flu, it's counted as dying OF flu
Same bullshit they're doing with COVID-1984
Actual death caused by influenza viruses probably about 1% of what's claimed
Is it really that surprising? no
Which is why so few people even know anyone who's died directly of flu and not of one or more comorbidities they had at the same time
Sound familiar? Same deal with 1984?
The flu death total is fabricated partly to boost $ale$ of flu $hot$
Big Pharma loves them, and Big Gov too...very easy to include nasty microscopic electronic stowaways along with that vaccine they've gotten you terrified and robotized into getting every year (which even they admit is only about 50% effective, if that much)
So you buy the shot
It weakens your immune system against other microbes
Then you can still get the flu—maybe a strain you wouldn't have even gotten without the shot (...but it's milder than normal!!)
Then you buy flu meds
Rinse and repeat next season
Constitutional scholar Alan Dershowitz: "You have no right not to get a flu vaccine"...government can hold you down and "plunge a needle into your arm."..."I hope they make [the coronavirus vaccine] mandatory." (Yes, he actually said this.)
Baaaa
Meanwhile am I the only one asking...
If vaccines work so well, and someone is vaccinated because they and their doctor know it's a solution that works...then why does it matter if some other person is unvaccinated?
He didn’t have the quickest travel ban, he didn’t have the slowest. If anything he was above average in his travel ban, as something like 3 dozen important countries banned travel within +/- 3 days of us
Good. Use their fake numbers against them.
I hate this line of attack. I get it to a certain extent - but its also a license to claim what Cuomo and Murphy and Whitmer did was successful. And it wasn't.
Those states did worse then many countries. NYC and NJ - not only did poorly but they are among the worst performers in the entire world.
Lockdowns don't work at all. All we had to do to be even more successful is to keep people away from the elderly and infirm. That is the ONE thing that we should have done.
This disease poses almost zero threat to the average healthy under 70 person. Trump needs to call attention to this Dem failure. Though maybe he is saving that in case Cuomo runs for president.
It absolutely could happen - Cuomo who killed thousands is a liberal hero. You hear about how Stalin had million of fans. Well Cuomo is that guy now..
Sure, he's taking on the responsibility for those 100K deaths. But when is the deep state going to take responsibility for the 200K suicides?
Trump is lying or wrong.
No we wouldn't have, and those of us who have been paying attention know this.