It kinda pisses me off to say it, but major organizations like SpaceX, Tesla, the NFL and MLB etc. springing back into action is going to be the first step to our culture accepting that it is time to move on from this cowardice space that we are in.
The first real domino to fall was the NBA cancelling the season mid-game on March 13th. Within 48 hours of that nearly every single major company had sent their employees home.
Same thing will happen when we open back up. Once the first big name industry reopens, the rest will be itching to open back up too.
It happened in Oregon when they got a couple cases in a middle school. They were going to keep the school open because the illegals would starve without the free meals oregon schools provide the illegal community. 3 meals a day in many cases. When nobody showed up for the school the next day, the state was shutdown within 48 hours.
Same. We watched most every game, attended those we could. Tailgated, had parties. We left the NFL behind years ago with the kneeling bologna. Missed it for the first few months, now NFL isn't even a thought.
Remember when China needed this recently and was like "Hey guys, check us out, we're here on the dark side of the moon because China #1". Nobody can or will prove that anyone else didn't go anywhere because they all want to reserve the option to say they went there too for their own country at a cost of however many billions of slavery-dollars per year. Money is energy stored in a piece of paper change my mind.
You'd be right about the money except there is much more digital money than actual printed money. Money is mostly zeroes and ones in the form of electricity and magnetism going around the world's servers
Bolden said President Barack Obama had charged him with three things upon becoming NASA administrator.
"One, he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math; he wanted me to expand our international relationships; and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math and engineering," Bolden said.
The comments have ignited a flurry of controversy โ particularly over the omission of space exploration as one of the three goals.
It's cool to see someone like him operating in my lifetime, blazing trails and challenging other companies to get in gear, and get to space commercially. Very historic!
That's what you end up looking like if you have to play the government grant game. And honestly, if the gov is going to give your startup millions, talking like a fruit cake for a bit is a great investment.
Hes a tactical businessman. You can call it bull shit artist if you want.
NASA at this point is too inept to run a manned program. Tomorrow's launch date would easily be ten years hence if it were a NASA project.
Remember the Mars lander we lost on reentry, when it was found that NASA had used metric units and Lockheed had used Imperial units for the reentry profile?
Any time someone asks "why did people used to do things that way?" the response is always "well people were just stupid back then." I absolutely HATE this notion. Yes, we have a lot more knowledge and technology available to us now, but we basically have the exact same brains and reasoning capacity as people did thousands of years ago.
This same thing happens with the Imperial vs. Metric debate. Everyone seems to dismiss the Imperial units as just stupid and archaic. No one stops an thinks, "well they must have had a reason to do things that way. I wonder what it was". Instead they say "they were primitive and not nearly as intelligent as I am."
So ask yourself, why did they do things that way? Imperial units base everything off the numbers 4, 8, 12, and 16. Why on earth wouldn't they just base everything off of the number 10 seeing that we have always had a base 10 numbering system?
The answer is that it was much, much easier to do things in imperial units when you didn't have standardized measurement tools and things like calculators. First, take a look at the numbers 4, 8, 12, and 16. What do they all have in common? That is right, they are all divisible by 4 and are also multiples of 4. They are also all numbers that have a high number of factors (whole numbers that they can be divided by).
The reason why the facts mentioned in the previous paragraph are important is because historically, when building/making something, ratios are the most important thing to get right. So over thousands of years, people came up with measurements that were the easiest to create ratios for.
For example, if you gave me a stick and said "I want you to build me a structure that is 60 feet wide, 40 feet tall, and 30 feet deep", I could easily measure that without equipment by using a base 12 system. A 3:4:6 ratio is easy to measure with my actual feet. I would be able to accurately square that house by just using my feet as a measuring tool.
Would love to hear, I've had a similar theory, that while metric is great for concrete basic arithmetic that never changes (such as the convenience of moving the decimal point) imperial units are actually better for abstract mathematics and statistical probabilities because imperial numbers make abstract concepts more tangible and real world
For example, the British use both kg and stone..but when someone talks about someones weight to describe them they'll say "about xx stone" because the mind easily creates thay picture. Likewise, here, even a science type who is well versed in the metric system instantly can create the image in his mind of "dude is seven feet tall" vs "is 213.36 cm tall"
The real key to imperial as a scientific unit is the margin of error, which all of science is based on. Any shortcomings in exact measurements (such as the .36 cm relating to the 7 footer) can be compensated for due to fail safes being in place for margin of error
No one that uses the metric system would ever use cm tor refer to someones height. You'd say that guy is 2 metres tall... 1 metre is an extremely easy concept to grasp in your mind.
Your brain is conditioned to counting with multiples of 5 and 10 (because of how many fingers you have) Although you might be right about the imperial system being "more human" I would argue that the most beautiful and useful human quality is the unstoppable will to search for the truth... and the truth needs to be factual, exact and objective... which is why the metric system is next level compared to the imperial.
I know a CNC engineer that made parts for NASA rockets and satellites. He is adamant that Imperial is superior because it always divides by 2, and essentially says that metric encourages people to round numbers and cut corners. He specifically cited the O-Ring of the Challenger as one such example.
Guy is a genius, so I'm inclined to believe him. We went to the moon with Imperial, after all. In the 70s.
He sounds great... But I'm not so sure if it is genius to proclaim that a system (which is by all means and purposes a very precise tool) can encourage people to be mediocre.
People can choose to use any tool in a mediocre way. If the amount of rounding that the people in your example did was too much, that speaks ill about them... not the system which they miss-used.
They're finally getting pretty good at landing R/C cars on Mars though. ๐คฃ
Contrast those with the Viking landers of the 1970s, which were the size of pickup trucks. Imagine what you could do with a payload that size today, and you get SpaceX.
Perseverance launches in July on a ULA Atlas 541, powered by a Russian RD-180 main engine. So, they're almost back after ~45 years. Good for them. ๐
Indeed it is, and I stand corrected. Let's say ~35 years, then. 2,000 lb. is a pretty light SUV, but still a substantial payload. For comparison, a Tesla Roadster is 2,900 lb. Curiosity launched on a ULA Atlas V-451, so it also used an RD-180 main engine.
That's correct. I do the same. I get what they're trying to do, which is teach an "intuitive" version. It might work for some, but I tend to think the intuition comes from the way we learned, if that makes sense.
Really amazing that the engineers and scientists that got us to the moon were using sliderules and logarithmic table books to do all their mathematic computations. Most kids today couldn't handle that! Hell, they probably wouldnt know what a sliderule was if they were handed one, let alone how to use it.
If you are thinking about the "can do" spirit that got us to the moon, it's at SpaceX now and the other new age companies. Think Elon as the von Braun / Korolev figure. NASA is now stuck with being a mature organization; they can only be the overseers. In Apollo, an army of young people changed the world. In SpaceX, same principle. John Aaron the "steely-eyed missile man" who saved Apollo 12 was just 26 at that time; his boss Gene Kranz was 10 years older at just 36.
Internal politics. Moon people vs the Mars people vs the Shuttle people. We should have already sent people to Mars and back by now. We can't do that with an organization that is loaded with human resource optics personnel. We no longer have a full complement of intrepid engineers who will make things happen despite the dangers. We have an adversity avoiding space culture, who would rather get along than find a way to get to their destination.
They think it is all about the "science". Maybe NASA should be doing tik tok dance videos too, if they can't figure out the rest of the stuff anymore.
They merely pretend to think that. Instead, they consciously seek to turn "science" from a helpful tool to a kind of insane religion that enables them to much more easily infiltrate, subvert and destroy, despite science and technology having completely horrible conditions. They are fully willing to sacrifice everything and everyone for their own goals' sake. Despite the extreme importance of space flight to the human species and its survival, they happily sacrifice it. They want to enslave and exterminate others, and it seems that at least some of them seeks the death of all, themselves included, complete extinction of the human species, with nothing left afterwards.
They're going up to the ISS for a month or so. It's a flight demonstrator; first operational ISS mission will be the next launch, with a full crew of 4.
Elon Musk is the embodiment of everything capitalism can and should be. A trail-blazing genius who came up by his bootstraps and got rich by inventing shit that benefited the whole world, while creating tens of thousands of jobs in the entire new industries he pioneered to replace dying ones.
The system isn't perfect, corruption, cronyism, and monopolistic practices are real problems that need to be rooted out for capitalism to function as it's intended, nevermind that for every billionaire like Musk or Trump who use their wealth for good, there's a Soros or a Gates who think it makes them feudal aristocrats. But Musk is the real world example the commies don't have, and will never have, that we can point to and say "this is a real example of our belief system in action, producing successful outcomes". And that's why they hate him so furiously.
Everytime I watch an interview with him, specifically JRE, I am further motivated in supporting his companies. He truly is as you describe. Everything he does is with respect to his goal of getting to mars. "Does this get us there faster or better?" If not, he doesn't do it. That's the kind of focus that should be looked up to.
Many people won't have the stomach or willpower for 110 hour work weeks, like he suggests, and that's ok. It should be used as evidence for how hard work achieves success. Every major success in human history has come from tremendous amounts of motivation and dedication. Half assing a job and expecting to become top dog is a joke. "Congratulations little Timmy, you showed up, here's the same medal that Chad got even though he's been working towards this for 2 months." There's room for supporting those who are unsuccessful, motivating them to keep pushing forward. But, coddling them and awarding a lack of effort will only serve to tear down the country when they become adults.
Fortunately, this leaves room for those that are willing to stomach the amount of effort to achieve greatness. I can't wait to see who the next Musk will be in the coming generations.
Although this is the ISS; If they can actually get through the Van Allen belt; which they never been able to do so far Iโd be impressed. Not buying moon landing or crap before though
It kinda pisses me off to say it, but major organizations like SpaceX, Tesla, the NFL and MLB etc. springing back into action is going to be the first step to our culture accepting that it is time to move on from this cowardice space that we are in.
You can bet every one of the general public who's there to see it will be a pede, because NASA. Let's hope there are a lot of boats, too.
The first real domino to fall was the NBA cancelling the season mid-game on March 13th. Within 48 hours of that nearly every single major company had sent their employees home.
Same thing will happen when we open back up. Once the first big name industry reopens, the rest will be itching to open back up too.
It happened in Oregon when they got a couple cases in a middle school. They were going to keep the school open because the illegals would starve without the free meals oregon schools provide the illegal community. 3 meals a day in many cases. When nobody showed up for the school the next day, the state was shutdown within 48 hours.
Never. They died to me when they decided to give up being patriotic. When I got rid of my memorabilia, I was declaring that there was no return
Same. We watched most every game, attended those we could. Tailgated, had parties. We left the NFL behind years ago with the kneeling bologna. Missed it for the first few months, now NFL isn't even a thought.
What's the NFL?
National Felons League, I think.
Also, IMHO, a very very boring game, of which I haven't seen a second of in 15+ years!
Remember when China needed this recently and was like "Hey guys, check us out, we're here on the dark side of the moon because China #1". Nobody can or will prove that anyone else didn't go anywhere because they all want to reserve the option to say they went there too for their own country at a cost of however many billions of slavery-dollars per year. Money is energy stored in a piece of paper change my mind.
You'd be right about the money except there is much more digital money than actual printed money. Money is mostly zeroes and ones in the form of electricity and magnetism going around the world's servers
Ok... "money" be it in paper or digital form is stored energy.
What
I can't believe how much of Obama's shittiness I've forgotten about.
That asshole set us back 8 years in space exploration. He canceled the Orion program.
Tell me, I wasnโt here for it...whatโs this about?
https://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/0714/NASA-chief-says-agency-s-goal-is-Muslim-outreach-forgets-to-mention-space
Holy Christ. WTF does space have to do with making Muslims feel good about science? Dude was a Muslim for sure!
Islam is bad and should be destroyed.
I don't care how muzzies feel.
Umm, Explore space is not in there.
Muslims never contributed shit to any of those fields. Zoroastrians did. Obama is a fucking historical revisionist piece of shit.
Different crescent moon and stars.
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I love this place.
Donโt forget about global warmingz
Can't wait to hop back from the current hysteria to the previous one...
Gotta love "science" and how... hysteria fueled and doomsayering it is...
But if we go back to talking about global warming, someone might notice that China was back to 100% pollution in early May.
Ground Zero of the epidemic is already reopened.
Thatโs what happens when propaganda masquerades as science. Letโs get back to real science.
or checking the ice in Greenland...
Elon Musk is a legend
It's cool to see someone like him operating in my lifetime, blazing trails and challenging other companies to get in gear, and get to space commercially. Very historic!
Most of the haters fail to realize guys like him are never social butterflies. They give that up to become polymaths.
Heโs an actor/bull shit artist at the end of the day; be wary.
C'mon pede. We extol "red-pilling" and welcome those who join our ranks, which necessarily means that people have not always shared our views.
That's what you end up looking like if you have to play the government grant game. And honestly, if the gov is going to give your startup millions, talking like a fruit cake for a bit is a great investment.
Hes a tactical businessman. You can call it bull shit artist if you want.
Launching people into space is bullshit? Landing the rocket back back on earth , upright, on a floating pad in the ocean is bullshit?
Ok Retard
Yeah I'm not wild about all the 5g satellites the sky is being peppered with...
Reddit started hating musk pretty quickly after he started doing MAGA shit.
SPACE MAN BAD!!!
NASA at this point is too inept to run a manned program. Tomorrow's launch date would easily be ten years hence if it were a NASA project.
Remember the Mars lander we lost on reentry, when it was found that NASA had used metric units and Lockheed had used Imperial units for the reentry profile?
Communist units have no place on US spacecraft
harambe i thought you died
Heโs just been watching the Gorilla channel
I actually have an explanation as to why Imperial units have historically been superior to Metric, if anyoneโs wants to hear lmk
I really want to hear. All my life I've been told the opposite in school. Another red pill won't hurt.
The Argument for Imperial Units
Any time someone asks "why did people used to do things that way?" the response is always "well people were just stupid back then." I absolutely HATE this notion. Yes, we have a lot more knowledge and technology available to us now, but we basically have the exact same brains and reasoning capacity as people did thousands of years ago.
This same thing happens with the Imperial vs. Metric debate. Everyone seems to dismiss the Imperial units as just stupid and archaic. No one stops an thinks, "well they must have had a reason to do things that way. I wonder what it was". Instead they say "they were primitive and not nearly as intelligent as I am."
So ask yourself, why did they do things that way? Imperial units base everything off the numbers 4, 8, 12, and 16. Why on earth wouldn't they just base everything off of the number 10 seeing that we have always had a base 10 numbering system?
The answer is that it was much, much easier to do things in imperial units when you didn't have standardized measurement tools and things like calculators. First, take a look at the numbers 4, 8, 12, and 16. What do they all have in common? That is right, they are all divisible by 4 and are also multiples of 4. They are also all numbers that have a high number of factors (whole numbers that they can be divided by).
The reason why the facts mentioned in the previous paragraph are important is because historically, when building/making something, ratios are the most important thing to get right. So over thousands of years, people came up with measurements that were the easiest to create ratios for.
For example, if you gave me a stick and said "I want you to build me a structure that is 60 feet wide, 40 feet tall, and 30 feet deep", I could easily measure that without equipment by using a base 12 system. A 3:4:6 ratio is easy to measure with my actual feet. I would be able to accurately square that house by just using my feet as a measuring tool.
Dammit we wanna know
Would love to hear, I've had a similar theory, that while metric is great for concrete basic arithmetic that never changes (such as the convenience of moving the decimal point) imperial units are actually better for abstract mathematics and statistical probabilities because imperial numbers make abstract concepts more tangible and real world
For example, the British use both kg and stone..but when someone talks about someones weight to describe them they'll say "about xx stone" because the mind easily creates thay picture. Likewise, here, even a science type who is well versed in the metric system instantly can create the image in his mind of "dude is seven feet tall" vs "is 213.36 cm tall"
The real key to imperial as a scientific unit is the margin of error, which all of science is based on. Any shortcomings in exact measurements (such as the .36 cm relating to the 7 footer) can be compensated for due to fail safes being in place for margin of error
Please do tell me your theory though
No one that uses the metric system would ever use cm tor refer to someones height. You'd say that guy is 2 metres tall... 1 metre is an extremely easy concept to grasp in your mind.
Your brain is conditioned to counting with multiples of 5 and 10 (because of how many fingers you have) Although you might be right about the imperial system being "more human" I would argue that the most beautiful and useful human quality is the unstoppable will to search for the truth... and the truth needs to be factual, exact and objective... which is why the metric system is next level compared to the imperial.
I know a CNC engineer that made parts for NASA rockets and satellites. He is adamant that Imperial is superior because it always divides by 2, and essentially says that metric encourages people to round numbers and cut corners. He specifically cited the O-Ring of the Challenger as one such example.
Guy is a genius, so I'm inclined to believe him. We went to the moon with Imperial, after all. In the 70s.
He sounds great... But I'm not so sure if it is genius to proclaim that a system (which is by all means and purposes a very precise tool) can encourage people to be mediocre.
People can choose to use any tool in a mediocre way. If the amount of rounding that the people in your example did was too much, that speaks ill about them... not the system which they miss-used.
By the way I'm not asking you to believe anything
Please, tell us
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Honestly... Imperial units are silly. I've started designing in metric when I can.
NASA has been into diversity hiring, but looking at gender and skin color ahead of talent couldn't possibly have anything to do with it.
They're finally getting pretty good at landing R/C cars on Mars though. ๐คฃ
Contrast those with the Viking landers of the 1970s, which were the size of pickup trucks. Imagine what you could do with a payload that size today, and you get SpaceX.
The current Mars rover is the size of an SUV and nuclear powered.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/PIA15279_3rovers-stand_D2011_1215_D521.jpg
Perseverance launches in July on a ULA Atlas 541, powered by a Russian RD-180 main engine. So, they're almost back after ~45 years. Good for them. ๐
That's Curiosity. It landed on Mars in 2012. Perseverance is the same basic design.
Indeed it is, and I stand corrected. Let's say ~35 years, then. 2,000 lb. is a pretty light SUV, but still a substantial payload. For comparison, a Tesla Roadster is 2,900 lb. Curiosity launched on a ULA Atlas V-451, so it also used an RD-180 main engine.
We are living in a simulation.
"Ok, what's 10+7?"
"Well, 10+10=20 and 10-3=7. So the answer is ๐๐"
"Good job, Tynesha!"
It's even more fun to ask them to convert binary 11.0110 to decimal, at the SpaceX job interview.
Indeed it is. Double updoots if you didn't use a calculator.
I'm in my 40s and wasn't taught common core, but I do large math in my head like this.
If someone asks a 2nd grader to add 325 + 467, they have to get out a piece of paper and start carrying. But what do you do?
You add the hundreds first. 300 + 400 = 700 Then you add the 10s. 20 + 60 = 80 Then the ones. 5 + 7 = 12
80 + 12 = 92
92 + 700 = 792.
When you're doing math in your head you break things down to integers that make 10, 100, 1000. This is common core, right?
I just tell my three year old you have to memorize all the combinations of addition and subtraction that make 10. The rest is just extrapolation.
That's correct. I do the same. I get what they're trying to do, which is teach an "intuitive" version. It might work for some, but I tend to think the intuition comes from the way we learned, if that makes sense.
Heaven help us when that happens!
Really amazing that the engineers and scientists that got us to the moon were using sliderules and logarithmic table books to do all their mathematic computations. Most kids today couldn't handle that! Hell, they probably wouldnt know what a sliderule was if they were handed one, let alone how to use it.
If you are thinking about the "can do" spirit that got us to the moon, it's at SpaceX now and the other new age companies. Think Elon as the von Braun / Korolev figure. NASA is now stuck with being a mature organization; they can only be the overseers. In Apollo, an army of young people changed the world. In SpaceX, same principle. John Aaron the "steely-eyed missile man" who saved Apollo 12 was just 26 at that time; his boss Gene Kranz was 10 years older at just 36.
Internal politics. Moon people vs the Mars people vs the Shuttle people. We should have already sent people to Mars and back by now. We can't do that with an organization that is loaded with human resource optics personnel. We no longer have a full complement of intrepid engineers who will make things happen despite the dangers. We have an adversity avoiding space culture, who would rather get along than find a way to get to their destination.
They think it is all about the "science". Maybe NASA should be doing tik tok dance videos too, if they can't figure out the rest of the stuff anymore.
They merely pretend to think that. Instead, they consciously seek to turn "science" from a helpful tool to a kind of insane religion that enables them to much more easily infiltrate, subvert and destroy, despite science and technology having completely horrible conditions. They are fully willing to sacrifice everything and everyone for their own goals' sake. Despite the extreme importance of space flight to the human species and its survival, they happily sacrifice it. They want to enslave and exterminate others, and it seems that at least some of them seeks the death of all, themselves included, complete extinction of the human species, with nothing left afterwards.
?
"sin"
"in my book"
"somebody got the data": I would very much like to see that data first and what sources it came from, etc., etc., etc.
๐ Thanks mods!
I really hated watching the last Space Shuttle flight, I'm really glad we're going to send Americans into space from America again.
They're going up to the ISS for a month or so. It's a flight demonstrator; first operational ISS mission will be the next launch, with a full crew of 4.
It's only gay if the solar panels touch
That some big space junk you got there
Live stream for tomorrow at the link. 4:33 PM EDT.
Capitalism
i hope the weather allows it
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Elon Musk is the embodiment of everything capitalism can and should be. A trail-blazing genius who came up by his bootstraps and got rich by inventing shit that benefited the whole world, while creating tens of thousands of jobs in the entire new industries he pioneered to replace dying ones.
The system isn't perfect, corruption, cronyism, and monopolistic practices are real problems that need to be rooted out for capitalism to function as it's intended, nevermind that for every billionaire like Musk or Trump who use their wealth for good, there's a Soros or a Gates who think it makes them feudal aristocrats. But Musk is the real world example the commies don't have, and will never have, that we can point to and say "this is a real example of our belief system in action, producing successful outcomes". And that's why they hate him so furiously.
Everytime I watch an interview with him, specifically JRE, I am further motivated in supporting his companies. He truly is as you describe. Everything he does is with respect to his goal of getting to mars. "Does this get us there faster or better?" If not, he doesn't do it. That's the kind of focus that should be looked up to.
Many people won't have the stomach or willpower for 110 hour work weeks, like he suggests, and that's ok. It should be used as evidence for how hard work achieves success. Every major success in human history has come from tremendous amounts of motivation and dedication. Half assing a job and expecting to become top dog is a joke. "Congratulations little Timmy, you showed up, here's the same medal that Chad got even though he's been working towards this for 2 months." There's room for supporting those who are unsuccessful, motivating them to keep pushing forward. But, coddling them and awarding a lack of effort will only serve to tear down the country when they become adults.
Fortunately, this leaves room for those that are willing to stomach the amount of effort to achieve greatness. I can't wait to see who the next Musk will be in the coming generations.
Space X, Doing the Job NASA wonโt do.
to be accurate, not spaceflight, near earth orbit flight... but I get it,.. it doesn't sound as good
I bet these astronauts were geeking out with the new and modern interface of the controls
Here is the SpaceX Stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjb9FdVdX5I
The longer we all stay on earth the greater our chance of extinction due to meteor hit!
We missed our chance to die from a meteorite hit. It will be recorded as Covid.
No, no flat earthers here.
Although this is the ISS; If they can actually get through the Van Allen belt; which they never been able to do so far Iโd be impressed. Not buying moon landing or crap before though