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just-a-pleb 4 points ago +4 / -0

Masks don't do shit.

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Jadef 2 points ago +2 / -0

So then what did japan do different that they had such slower spread ?

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awooo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Japan didn't send covid patients into nursing homes. Japan didn't delay action by impeaching their prime minister. Japan didn't hoard ventilators in warehouses, selling them out the back door while claiming to need thousands more.

Masks are nice. So is green tea and citrus fruit consumption. But let's not kid ourselves about what happened in the USA and NYC in particular.

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Jadef 2 points ago +2 / -0

Even if you remove the nursing homes from the equation our death rate and rate of spread are way higher than Japan, s korea, Taiwan. Countries in Europe and canada had lower death rates than the US but higher than japan etc... And the reason masks work is apparent, as I've mentioned they reduce viral load in the air by blocking moisture droplets. You see the countries in europe with the highest death rates are ones where people kiss each other all the time.

Mask wearing is a simple and effective mitigating method and its increasingly clear to all, the reasons to oppose it are kind of trivial, it makes people look foolish. No one is saying wear a mask at all times, but when you go to a store, on a train, this is how you reopen the economy and protect people who work in stores etc...

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awooo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even if you remove the nursing homes from the equation our death rate and rate of spread are way higher than Japan

It's not possible for you to have a legitimate source for this statement. Even, for the sake of argument, say you're right, Japan doesn't pay hospitals more per covid death. Japan doesn't classifiy gunshots deaths as covid deaths. Japan isn't playing politics with the disease. There are myriad reasons why the US numbers are so different from those of Japan.

Mask wearing is a simple and effective mitigating method

Masks are fine. So are seat belts. You should wear one if you have symptoms, just like you should wear a seat belt when driving. That doesn't mean you can drive drunk just because you wore your seat belt.

If you want numbers like Japan, you won't get them simply by donning a mask.

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just-a-pleb 1 point ago +1 / -0

Low immigration for one.