Oof. I really do hope we don't become a central location for this usage of the word "jogger." Not that I have no sense of humor or that I want to give even an inch to PC bs, but this sort of development is exactly what our enemies look for.
This also raises the question of "deadman switch;" as in, was George Floyd's death deliberately setup by Soros (et al) as a deadman switch to further destroy the US? That conversation should be happening here, sometime. Maybe it deserves its own separate post?
Anyway we should fight their efforts to destroy the US, rather than play into their hands. It's not always easy to see how to navigate that.
Ok, thanks. Yes I did think anytime people were using it it referred to black men suspected of being criminals but pretending to be innocent. This is all connected back to that one black man jogging that was shot with a shotgun by two white men, right? Like back in December or something? That never became a thing until recently, just weeks ago?
I missed the online sensation of this developing. Is it also used by black people?
Lol this is GREAT! Thanks for this. Agree 100% with you about "aren't really racist in their hearts," I just wish leftists would afford anyone they don't know that same latitude.
I remember when people used to be able to joke together IRL and it wasn't about anything other than just having fun. Our society REALLY needs to get back to that! Congrats on having at least a small slice of that with some known friends ...
Oof. I really do hope we don't become a central location for this usage of the word "jogger." Not that I have no sense of humor or that I want to give even an inch to PC bs, but this sort of development is exactly what our enemies look for.
Do you have any idea just how many theytube comments, posts on the various chans and even fakebook there are that use that term? So, no this isn't the place that uses that word the most...
Ok, but still. They can't point to any of those as being exclusively Trump supporters. I mean if we were using the term solely to refer to criminals pretending to be innocent, that'd be one thing. Another variant of dindunuffin.
But if we're just throwing around a racial slur in the hopes that we can get away with it? It's just not the way to win an election. We should check our attitude under the final rule here, "don't be stupid," and not just be concerned with verbiage.
Especially with the recent war on social media platforms / publishers, we should expect heightened scrutiny and whatever we say HERE to become tomorrow's news that forever haunts us if we screw up.
No harm no foul as far as I'm concerned, but going forward - do you see my point?
"Regular chess" is 2D. 3D chess adds the vertical dimension. Totally irrelevant to the OP, just to clarify; but you're right, if we go around saying "4D chess," pedocrats could use that as ammo.
My issue with the greatest generation is sure, they survived the depression and won WWII, but they failed the single most important test, which is passing their values onto the next generation. The fucking boomers are probably the single most destructive generation this nation has ever seen. Its' not gen-x, it's not millennial, it's not zoomers or whatever the fuck we're calling them, the hands that destroyed America came straight out of boomer culture.
EDIT: Damn that little rant hit a nerve. A lot of interesting replies and viewpoints.
It's like they're not smart enough to realize that capitalism is great when you keep filthy fucking politicians out of it. But it's impossible to appreciate capitalism if you've never gone out and earned anything on your own.
Ruling Democrats don't hate the rich at all - they just want to make certain that only a very, very select few become rich, and it's always themselves.
The Sheep Democrats only exist to provide labour for the Ruling Democrats and have absolutely no hope of ever becoming rich themselves, no matter what the Ruling Democrats tell them.
If the Sheep ever face this fact, the Rulers are done, but so far that has not happened. The Sheep just accept that their Rulers are filthy rich while the Sheep have nothing because whitey.
The Sheep accept this because they just can't believe their Rulers would do this. Their kind and diversity-loving Rulers don't keep Sheep just to eat them! That's an insane conspiracy theory!
You can seen this very clearly with Obamacare. The privately owned insurance companies got to continue fleecing everyone, the poor got "free" healthcare, and the middle class got to pay the increased premiums.
Did this push more people from the middle class into the poor? Of course, but now those new poor can get the new benefits. Just gotta ramp up the premiums for the middle class, causing more of them to fall into poverty, but then they'll get more benefits, so we raise premiums again...
Sorry I trailed off there. The survival of my moronic worldview depends on me not finishing that thought.
Not sure but I know they don't look at it as a safety net but a retirement account. I saw a billboard a while back that was actually advertising SS long the lines of "You've worked hard all your life and now it's time to do all the things you've dreamed of." And there was this old fucker with an electric guitar. Why on earth you would advertise that is beyond me. SS is not there to make your fucking childish rockstar dreams come true. You should have to pay for that shit yourself.
You can't say "they" about ANY group and be even remotely accurate. No group is a monolithic block. Especially if you're going to form your opinion based on billboard advertising. That's not reflective of anyone but the advertising company and their client, which was probably some investment "financial services" company.
Oh is accuracy a big concern for you? I can say they. i don't need to point out every single individual and put them in separate buckets. When I say they I mean the types of assholes I'm talking about. I don't need to do better than that to satisfy a concern troll
And you have no idea what I saw so don't try and clarify it for me. It was not an investment service. It was a baffling advertisement for Social Security.
LOL, ever watch what those retirees are pictured doing in the Big Pharma ads on the evening network news broadcasts? They are doing shit that I didn't even do in my 20s (namely because I couldn't afford it).
Reagan is a baby boomer now? Um, NO. DJT is the oldest baby boomer, Ronnie Raygun was born in 1911. And even he did the massive amnesty thing in exchange for funding a border barrier, which Ds never followed through on. Proving forever that they can't be trusted.
You're leaving out the communist infiltration and non-Christian takeover of America. It wasn't a failure. It was a defeat.
I'm Gen-X. The Baby Boomers were the generation before me. Believe me, they tried conveying the old values, but everything in media and education was against them. You have to keep in mind that the propaganda was fairly new at that point. Nobody understood it or knew how to counteract it.
Blaming the entire boomer generation is like saying we're currently all failures for letting the COVID hysteria lock down America.
And by the way, this boomer hate is part of the same propaganda of division. (White vs black. Rich vs poor. Old vs young.) That's why I'm countering it now. I've learned a few things since I was a kid.
They did in large part try to give us their conservative values but we were all too busy watching The Real World on MTV and being taught the stupidest shit anyone could imagine. MTV also taught stupid kids like us that we needed to vote but were never concerned with us being informed.
You and I agree that we have learned a lot since then and things are now clearer. This is why I favor changing the voting age to 25 (or at least change it in a way that prevents stupid kids from casting an emotional vote).
Scroon, you speak TRUTH! Case in point: the deliberate destruction of the "nuclear family" directly resulted in my ex-wife and Mother of my children hiding all parent teacher conferences from me. I would've made "quite the impression" on teachers enforcing policies where Muslims can disrupt hall traffic between classes to pray (thereby making lots late to class) while my kids (and everyone else their age) weren't allowed to pray, carry a Bible or wear anything expressing Christianity. Christian extra-curricular groups were broken up. This attack on Christianity is only ONE front, and it could well be argued that other problems are more consequential.
Not that I'm claiming ANY effort parents could've done would've actually made a difference. This is a gobalist agenda, which isn't even really communist at its core: it's even bigger than that!
I'll add it's equally despicable for my generation to pick on millennials. The only "us vs them" that matters is E Pluribus Unum vs the very few truly financial elite, who profit obscenely from issuing and controlling our currency. That is not a generational divide, nor does it only follow specific families. We can't get to them directly in any way that I know of. What we SHOULD be doing is physically removing our Governors from Office under citizen's arrest, under the charge of mass murder. In those rare instances where the Governor is decent, focus on the most tyrannical Mayor instead. Getting 20,000 patriots at every State capitol all at the same time is less likely when we fall for their strategy of divide and conquer. Class action lawsuits, both civil and criminal in every State, is how we win a lasting victory but that takes years to get through the Courts. We HAVE TO act before November.
This impacts the bankers because if we do this all our other enemies shit their pants and retreat back into the shadows where they prefer to operate from anyway. How many times has DJT told us he can't drain the swamp and MAGA all by himself, he needs our help? We do this and he knows we mean business, and that we have his back. Literally! He says he "caught them all," we'd need to solicit his help and route them out from their hiding places. DJT would be proud of We the People finally doing the right thing.
You're both right. I don't blame the Boomer generation for what OP said bc of your argument, but they are absolutely to blame for the pathetic govt population at every level. They didn't care about who led them and now we're stuck with hundreds of thousands of incompetents suckling taxpayer teats and horribly inept/corrupt leaders. Unfortunately this coincided with the tech boom, and now that propaganda is more powerful and easier to disseminate than ever before, we've got clowns all the way down utilizing it to reprogram our people.
Corruption of US government is FAR more complex than you're making it out here. At what time did baby boomers have all the control over voting? Even now there are LOTS of voters older than baby boomers, and we're also getting squeezed out by younger generations.
You seem to not have noticed that (except for DJT) no matter who we vote for we get the same agenda? "The uniparty" is a foreign concept to you? You are completely unaware of globalism?
Look into the CFR, BIS, Fed, IMF, TLC, MIC, MSM, big pharma, IC; these are not at all about the generational divide as you assert, but about power being retained by an elite few. FAR fewer than "the 1%."
They had control over their descendants learning why it's important to be active in local, state, and federal politics. In a time with no war to focus everyone's attention, this is even more critical. If you want a republic, you have to be engaged as a citizen and promote it among your peers and offspring. If you don't want to do that, then prepare for inevitable societal collapse then dictatorship. If you truly believe that all those lettered agencies have had unfettered control for 50+ years then this country has already been dead for decades. I agree that it's not a simple answer, and I'm not fully blaming that gen, but our ultimate problem is we don't participate near enough to be successful. That starts with every adult citizen who cares about their community. Assuming someone else will do it is why we're controlled by a quasi oligarchy.
Yeah honestly this is one thing I truly don’t understand as a 40 year old. Is the “Boomer” hate thing just another flavor of “I hate my parents”? Or is there something I am missing about what they believe Boomers have done to the world! It’s a serious question.
I think there is genuine criticism of that generation essentially "gatekeeping" industries to keep their gravy train rolling. For instance, i worked a job in a lab where the assistants were all far more educated than the "technical" personnel who had been grandfathered in. When they were getting started, it was acceptable to be trained on the job. That same job now requires a 4 year degree and an additional 1-2 years of technical certification. There is just so much more red tape required these days.
Hell I know a guy who was trained on-the-job for autopsies and pathology grossing, he's fucking brilliant at it and never stepped foot inside a college. Want to do that now? Fat chance, it requires near doctor level investment in school... 6 years minimum.
Employers no longer seem interested in investing in their workforce like they used to.
Interesting, thanks. I mean, I agree the world today is shit all around compared to the way I grew up as well as how noble I viewed my grandparents generation to be. I always just blame it on technology personally — to me, that’s destroyed who we are and how the world operates, but not necessarily because the Baby Boomers did anything. All I know is that we haven’t had a solid generation in some time and it gets worse with each one that comes along. Glad to see so many Gen-Z Trump supporters tough. It gives me hope we’re in for a Renaissance of sorts after everything inevitably falls apart.
Generations have always been held to be 20 years. Since Gen X was decided to end in 1980, Gen Y should be 1981 to 2000, and Gen Z should be 2001 - 2020.
This silliness was never a thing before. "Baby boomer" made sense as it started as you correctly stated and ended the year I was born; I in fact saw years immediately following me in school shrink in size. It truly was the end of the baby boom.
We started naming decades, then devolved into this element of the globohomo's divide and conquer strategy. We need to rise above it! (And every other bogus attempt they make to prey upon the very worst of human nature, which takes exactly ZERO talent)
It's pretty much anyone over 55. Some definitions say 1965, others say 1963. It's a pretty broad statement to say that all of America's problems are "boomers" fault.
I agree. I'm GenX but am of an age where I could easily have kids that are in their early 20's being total fuck ups. I personally blame my generation for creating all these wacko feminists and trannies.
Again I think it's too broad to blame any one generation. It's part of the USSR plot to overthrow the US, and also part of the globalist agenda to destroy the US and impose OWG. These efforts made historic inroads in NYC and RI (LGBTQBBQ+) and I as the youngest baby boomer was there at the beginning of the bra burning feminists. ("I was there" meaning I witnessed it, not that I took part.Plus I'm a guy) Although whatever "Wave" of feminism they're up to now is a completely different beast.
This couldn't have happened without schools having been taken over by Marxists supporting the globalist agenda, which started bigly in 1921. This ties in directly to the creation of the Fed in 1913.
That all makes sense but I am only focusing on Boomers because they are the ones drawing SS right now and that's what the topic is. We know for a fact that many Boomers have not saved a penny and plan to rely on welfare for retirement. It's just a fact. It will be a fact when I am that age, when the Millenials are that age, etc.
It's a fucking moronic statement to blame a generation for everything wrong in society today.
But its understandable because it's quite clear that the average age of the people who post the most on this forum are probably late teens to mid 20s.
And that age group always thinks they know better than their elders.
But its always easy to do Monday morning quarterbacking.
Us older people can easily blame the young of today for everything bad in society too but again that would be moronic and require a low IQ level of critical thinking.
Born in 1964 is universally accepted as the end of the baby boom, and thus the end of the baby boomer generation. It was readily visible to see the decline. The youngest baby boomers (me) are presently 55, and turn 56 this year.
The oldest baby boomer is DJT, who turns 74 this year. LOTS of people still in power who are too old to be a baby boomer!
There is always a little intermediate overlapping group of people but basically it is anyone born after WWII and before 1965. But you are correct given what a lot of dumb ass kids say. They are so uninformed these days it just boggles the mind.
"Boomer" is a nuclear submarine, the most survivable element of our nuclear triad. With no planned replacement. Once they're all out of commission China will be a much bigger threat.
It wasn’t all boomers though. The target of your ire should be the counter culture hippie movement. They were literally counter to our culture. It was a generations long psyop that we are dealing with the fallout from.
It's not as simple as "the Rothschilds," and hasn't been since the French revolution. Our most direct route to overthrowing these bastards is citizen's arrest of our Governors. The most peaceful and effective way to do it is 20,000 patriots at every State Capitol, all at the same time. but we have to do it while so many are still out of work, and LONG before November.
This is only one small microcosm of the bigger effort.
Perhaps the saddest part of this is bebop jazz musicians learned in the 50's that heroin is bad news, and here we are, experiencing a heroin "epidemic."
If you went through that shit, it was likely assumed that it would be self-evident to the kids. Also it was just a time they all just were fucking done, didnt want to relive that era, and just wanted their kids to live the life they all were denied.
How dare they. Born before WW1, live through the Spanish Flu, the Depression, drafted to another world war, get shot at for 4 years in horrid conditions.
But fuck them for being like "I'm going to enjoy the fact that I survived".
No this is wrong. Baby boomers were largely NOT children of WWII vets, even though that IS when the baby boom began. We certainly aren't the ones that ushered in communism. We're the ones that grew up with air raid drills in bomb shelters and were otherwise FAR more affected by the cold war than any younger generation.
WWII vets did NOT raise kids to be communists. Wtf are you thinking?
Public education having been taken over by the government with the creation of the DoE is what helped to create the current idiotic embrace of communism among our youth. Most parents find it horrifying, regardless what age the parent is.
Even further back than that. Truman really fucked us. We could have gone after the Soviet’s in ‘45/46 and won. We could have gone after China in ‘51 and won. That would have knocked communism out. But Truman was too much of a feckless leader to actually see the bigger picture and nip the problem in the bud.
Not gonna pretend Millennials aren't cucked as well, I'm a millennial and I'll admit that. But like you said most millennials are still too scared about the plandemic even do anything lmao. They'll cheer on from the background though but I say the majority of the folks out there were Zoomers. Like think about a public school with a lot of behavioral problems, agitators will be more likely to involve demographics like that to cause the most destruction because they are much more likely to cause crimes than millennials who are at least 23 in 2020. A millennial that acts like that is more likely to be in jail at this point. A Zoomer that acts like that is more likely to be out of jail and available to riot. The way I see it.
TL;DR there were definitely more Zoomers than any other generation out there.
Who invented social media? That surely qualifies as "opiate of the masses". Which gens get hit by cars crossing the street 'cause they can't take their eyes off their phones?
Ever since Kent State, the left has been dreaming of a reeeeeepeat. And the summer before a Presidential election is perfect timing for them to stir up the shit.
Well their government was a bunch of lefty sympathizers, so of course they won't do anything.
If we were out there stopping this, we would be arrested for vigilante justice and those same lefty politicians who run the place would make examples of us because Orange man bad.
The way we win is by physically removing our Governors from Office via citizen's arrest for mass murder. 20,000 of us at each State Capitol, all at the same time. Class action lawsuits, both civil and criminal, those are what give us a lasting victory but expect them to be tied up in Court for years so we need to act within 3 months. It takes a lot of understanding the big picture to see how this gets to the financial elite, but they do not protect Governors. They don't want us uniting against them, they want us fighting our fellow Americans. Don't cooperate with their strategy of divide and conquer! That's how they win.
The laws in Minnesota are criminal-centric. One of the few arrests was the pawn shop owner, who shot someone in the desperate attempt not to lose his store, and thus, his livelihood. Looters, arsonists and rioters running free, a store owner gets arrested. Sound familiar?
The store owners aren't the ones voting left, it's the minorities and legal immigrants.
All minority groups vote 78-90% left. All legal immigrants vote 90% left. There's one group in this country that votes 70+% conservative consistently, and they're the people being attacked for no reason and having their property burned.
"Our cities?" Are any protesters, anywhere, destroying anything that isn't their own neighborhood?
I'm ok with continuing the obvious US policy of allowing Muslims to kill Muslims. This is basically Somalia where this is happening. (Not referring to the other cities where it's spreading, but aren't those all D strongholds too?)
How bout we just confine them to their own area, and let them kill each other?
Maybe they will try to incite a war with another country.
Wait... They did that already too. Remember the Kentucky shooting range footage they used to say it was syrians being attacked because Trump removed troops?
Yup. Who knows what they have up their sleeve for next time.
You laugh but that's the current chant. It's stupid. The whole thing. I watched several different Floyd videos and never - not once - did I see anything that suggested the police were doing this out of some sort of racial hatred. I've yet to see evidence that shows Chauvin or any of the other officers had anti-black sentiment (outside of doctored photos which even Snopes called out as false) and I've yet to see that this was anything outside of a terrible accident at its best and at its worst a clear sign of police brutality with one man abusing another man.
Yet, lo and behold, someone was white and someone else was black so NATURALLY every leftist asshole, every media outlet that has been foaming at the mouth to condemn Trump over any little thing, every social media hag that spends every passing thought trying to find a way to misrepresent and slant and skew, have all immediately ran towards "RACE! RACE! IT WAS CLEARLY RACIALLY MOTIVATED! NO QUESTION ABOUT IT!"
It's honestly sickening and tells a lot more about how they think they I believe they realize. People aren't people in their eyes apparently. It's asking too much to have them see this situation and think that it's a person hurting another person - to view these people as fundamentally equal in beginnings and then use evidence such as past behavior or what was said to judge accordingly and adjust beliefs for motivations from there. Nope. Asking for a freaking miracle at that point. For them, it's race and nothing else. They don't see a man and another man. They see white and black. Really shows who the real racists are...
Why not just full on embrace The Purge at that point? Might as well write it into law. It'd honestly probably be less devastating and costly if that's their philosophy.
Wow you can't watch the video of the murder and claim it was somehow an accident or that only one cop was the perpetrator. The 3 other cops there had the DUTY to knock the one cop off George, who was dead by the time the cop stopped kneeling on his neck. Look at that sadist's face, he knew he was killing him and he enjoyed it.
This is the most justified public outrage in the black community since the Civil War, with the Rodney King riots perhaps coming in second place.
I've yet to see evidence that shows Chauvin or any of the other officers had anti-black sentiment (outside of doctored photos which even Snopes called out as false) and I've yet to see that this was anything outside of a terrible accident at its best and at its worst a clear sign of police brutality with one man abusing another man.
I've never said people don't have a right to be outraged, I've said that people are jumping to conclusions about the motivation.
How do you know Chauvin wasn't just a piece of shit officer that abused power on any and all people he came across? How do you know his motivation stemmed from race? The answer is you don't.
I honestly welcome you to provide anything to suggest that it was a racially motivated action because I've yet to see anything beyond that it was police brutality being inflicted on an individual by another. Again, note I never said it wasn't terrible, that police brutality isn't something we all need to examine and solve, that there needs to be repercussions, any of that. All I've said is that somehow people have been able to label this as a racist act and I've yet to see anything to defend the idea that it was racially motivated outside of people simply seeing that one man is white and another is black (which itself is ironically a pretty racist way to view this and pigeonhole the world and its happenings).
If events had unfolded exactly the same - every word uttered was the same, every thought that went through everyone's mind was the same, every action performed by all individuals was the same, literally everything in the world was exactly the same - as it was with Floyd but instead a white man was the victim, would you still say it was a racially motivated action? Because I highly doubt you would. I think you would call it police brutality, I think people would be (rightfully) angry, but there wouldn't be these mass "racism" chants and riots. And what in that scenario changed? Only one thing - the race of the victim. So, somehow, under one scenario it's textbook racism yet under another - with everything but one factor being different (meaning same actions, same words, same thoughts, literally everything but that one thing) - it's police brutality.
OK, but why assume it would stop just because we balkanized? Were the LGB happy after they got their way, or didn't they then push T on us afterward? Leftists never stop. Which means WE shouldn't either, until they're beat down into dirt (if necessary).
That's exactly right. They'd get a stronghold then go after each state one by one. They don't want coexistence. That's obvious because it's already being offered to them and they're rejecting it.
Anyone caught rioting who isn't a natural born citizen should be deported back to their country of origin. The other ones should have to sit through John Podesta's Fatherhood video.
Technically, by US federal law every single rioter in the city right now can be charged for terrorism, because they are using violence to push a political agenda.
We should deport all those anti-fa who were spray painting their anarchy/anti-cop shit too. I know they're likely (sadly) citizens, we've just had enough of their nonsense for a while.
Ideally we would drop them off on the other side of where the wall extends the longest, for maximum lolz.
That's pretty cool, I'm guessing it's a pain in the ass to clean up maybe? Or they just don't need it most of the time so they didn't invest in it. Shame either way.
It would be fun to watch those stooges try to walk through it though. You certainly wouldn't be able to carry a flat screen TV walking through that slop.
I've seen those big firefighting choppers filling up at the park near my house when a fire broke out a few years ago at a warehouse.
The amount of water they can instantly dump is very impressive. I would NOT want to be caught underneath that. A water cannon is one thing, it'll knock you flat on your ass. What's a Sikorsky S64 dropping the equivalent of a small swimming pool going to do to the human body?
So this is a time stamp in trumps history to watch. Lets hope National Guard brings some sort of order that Minneapolis couldn't do, but also continuing to not interfere with the protests. Lets also hope the protesters dont get aggressive and rush Nation Guard to allow for retaliation and cause a Kent State scenario.
A big win for trump imho is for him to demand a bill or do an executive order for Police Officers / Precinct reform of some sort. He says he wants to see justice for Floyd and this would back it up even more than putting DOJ + FBI + State prosecutor on independent investigations
So I think a few things could atleast be brought into the conversation into terms of reform. I dont know all the answers but here is my take from how I have seen Police forces evolve to what it is now in many place:
So i think from a training perspective, shooting training and frequency must be tightened and have high as fuck standards. Frequency of testing behind your daily firearm use must be 1x a month or more frequent with MOA standards implemented. Introduce non lethals more often, as in situations like this. (I understand non lethals can put officers at risk vs a real threat, idk the balance ill be honest b.c police officers are human and they have families too)
This is to reduce under pressure inaccuracies, proper firearm usage / maintaining
Under stress training (Practice with bb's, blanks, self defense shit) should be on rotation 3-4x a year in groups that the military provides (for free since u know we pay that already) to law enforcement or that local trainers do (for a fee). Not this 1x a year, a "oh u got picked" type of stuff.
Mandatory counseling and mandatory therapy availability on payroll at the local or state level, free to be used by law enforcement but yet sorta of mandatory to weed out officers that may show signs of stress, anger, etc.
What i am trying to figure out is rules of engagement guidelines to prevent what we have recently seen this officer do to Floyd. How did that officer get to that mentality that its ok to sit on a dudes neck until he died, when the dude was obviously not going anywhere. Or creating / enforcing protections against citizens to intervene in a situation like this.
I have sat here and watched that footage over and over again and as a civilian watching behind the screen, I had my stomach dropping that no1 was trying to get physical with the officers to take attention away from floyd. No 1 was trying to attempt to do anything against the police (a murder was happening in plain view), they just stood and watched and screamed....while a man/human cried and begged for air
The thing is, the cop worked with George at a nightclub up until the end of last year. He knew the guy and most likely had a grudge against him. Whether or not he killed him on purpose or just took it too far and it was an accident is the question. Either way, it's not necessarily the fault of the police department and their training in these situations. Dude was just crazy and had a bone to pick with this guy most likely.
I've been watching a few Cop YouTuber videos about this and one thing that stuck out was that they all say: "That hold is not procedure." "There's no department in the world that teaches that." "This guy is fucking up." etc.
So if the guy who fucked up was already breaking the rules doing his own thing.... what the fuck do we change? He already will be prosecuted.
It's like saying: "This criminal offended us so much we demand you change the system!" We're already going to arrest and charge the guy, clearly we don't think this is OK.
I think like Trayvon it's largely inactionable emotion. Scary stuff.
Yeah exactly. But how are these people going to just immediately start rioting as if you can charge somebody with murder overnight? It's absolutely ridiculous.
That first point is something I’ve been thinking about. On one hand I don’t think officers should be able to fire a weapon unless they’re either being shot at or have a weapon pointed at them, but on the other hand that puts them at a huge disadvantage should shit hit the fan. It’s really tough to figure out a clear guideline for something like this. Officers have families too and it’s a stressful job and the majority of them are good people and their lives shouldn’t be threatened because a few cops were bad apples.
I do think stress training would be a good start. It is a stressful job and they should be able to handle that stress. People get desperate when they’re stressed and that can lead to bad decision making. Training with the military would help with this, but I can see how people would think the police is being militarized.
I think the mandatory counseling could be huge. A lot of these issues could have been prevented by just seeing how the officers react to certain situations or just checking in on their past. This officer in particular had no business being a law enforcement officer based on his past. Every complaint needs an investigation. Sure it’ll be tedious and pointless most the time, but I think it’d be a big way to boost police/community relations if the therapy and investigations are actually taken seriously.
Rules of engagement are hard to talk about because most of us aren’t in their positions and deal with the shit they do on a daily basis. Which comes back to the whole training/therapy thing. We need to put every officer in a situation where they feel comfortable with anything that could happen from the job. If there is a shooting, while scary and stressful, they need to feel comfortable handling the situation based off the tons of training they go through.
This is the first time out of all these “cop/black male” crimes where I felt there was really no justification for the officers actions. Other times they were resisting, or attacking, or quickly reaching for something, but this one is inexcusable.
I think another good idea would be to have at least one officer in each squad or pair to have some type of basic medical training. Someone that can “check a pulse”. No one should die when they are in police custody unless an officers life is in danger, which was not the case here. Even in other situations a medical officer could be of assistance. Show up to a DV conflict and someone is injured? They could provide basic help until paramedics show up.
As I’m sure you’d agree though, these are all just ideas and we’re not experts. We definitely do need some type of reform.
And for all the people that for some reason think Floyd deserved this or the officer isn’t guilty, think of all the other people that die in officer custody too. The number should not be that high. Whether it’s black people, white people, or any other types of people. No one should die when they have been restrained and arrested by law enforcement. They are officers, not judge jury and executioners.
"It’s really tough to figure out a clear guideline for something like this."
This has been established for generations. Cop is to always have an advantage. Fair fight? Fuck that. They are to ALWAYS level up. Meaning never fight barehanded. If perp has a gun, wait for back-up do not engage one on one.
National average, cops shooting on duty miss half the time at a distance of less than 6 feet. They are a public menace! Recent case, 24 shots fired, 6 hit. In an apartment building. Miracle no other bystanders were hit. (Case was a no knock raid on the wrong address)
I could only watch the video once, and I couldn't watch the whole time that sadist enjoyed murdering. The other 3 cops are guilty, they had the DUTY to knock that sadist off and make him stop. With lethal force if necessary. When you talk about reform training/ protocols etc., the big problem is NO cop reports abuse of power by a co-worker. In this case they actively assisted. Especially that winnie the poo in front of the camera. He was basically begging to be killed. My next thought was the civilians also had the duty to stop this obvious murder in progress, and citizen's arrest is legal as long as we're stopping a felony, which this obviously was. Then I realized maybe they didn't have the power to stop all 4 cops. Had I been there I would've been the difference maker and would've coordinated the stop. I might not have survived but George Floyd would have.
Another terrible injustice is anybody stopping this (lethal force completely justified) if they survived would be found guilty and have the book thrown at them. Either that or cops drop all charges and just disappear you for a few months; after you're released you're never "right" again. I've known people in that situation. While we know that not all 4 cops will be convicted of murder or accomplice to murder at least.
This has nothing to do with communism but "better dead than red" still almost fits. This kind of tyranny is too much to endure. AFAIK this incident is THE most justifiable public outrage by the black community since the Civil War.
I'd like to see a new division of labor: all other first responders are trained to DE-escalate. That usually works. Have first responders with a badge not armed with lethal force. If they feel they need lethal force, have them back off, stay safe, and wait for backup. By a new classification of "second responders" who do NOT fuck around. Not always a swat team, but restrict the lethal force to these motherfuckers.
I bet resistance and armed conflict goes WAY down. Overwhelming force is a very effective deterrent. Just not against suicide by cop.
"We have activated more than 500 soldiers to St. Paul, Minneapolis and surrounding communities. Our mission is to protect life, preserve property and the right to peacefully demonstrate. A key objective is to ensure fire departments are able to respond to calls."
Not good enough. The rioters can threaten them with clubs and other non-gun weapons. They need to be able to use deadly force to defend themselves against any threat to life or limb.
Would it not be better to merely confine them to their own neighborhoods and let them kill each other? Use their militarized vehicles to block off streets to keep them penned in as large an area as feasible?
I would bet on it .. rubber bullets, only to be used if fired upon by a protester who is less that 20 feet away and facing you. All other engagement will be legally actionable on NG members.
You just reminded me of the test that happened on cell phones last year...and how the libs were triggered because they thought it was Trump being narcissistic...that was a fun day.
Can't help but notice that all those protests everyone was so pissed off didn't turn into burning cities, looting businesses, killing dogs, trapping people inside burning buildings, releasing zoo animals, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of those required the National Guard... right?
(Yes, I'm fully aware the answer is no.. none of them required the Guard)
Yeah, I agree with you. This shit doesn't need to be about race and I refuse to take the left's bait and say it is. These are rioters exploiting a man's death to selfishly enrich themselves and steal what they want and physically assault those they disagree with. The fire fueling this isn't race or demanding justice or anything like that, it's selfishness.
I'm not speaking for them, I'm speaking about what their actions heavily suggest and imply. I don't have to be elected by them to analyze their actions and behaviors and judge them accordingly.
I don't have to be democratically elected by a group of looters stealing flat screen TVs to venture a guess that there is some self desire for a flat screen TV (or money from selling it) motivating their choice of stealing the TV.
Judging an action is not putting words into someone's mouth and you should be careful to not confuse those two.
You would be MUCH more effective if you phrased it differently. I am very glad to hear it is not your intention to speak on their behalf. And thanks for the clarification!
I will opine that you don't know NEARLY enough to form any such opinion about thousands of people that you have never met and do not know. I will concede that some may be motivated as opportunists, especially since corn teen is not over in MN. That does NOT mean they don't care about injustice, which is what you're frothing at the mouth about all over.
Every race riot has followed this same pattern: black man beaten excessively or killed by cops, usually white. Cops not prosecuted, decision usually made by whites. Or if cops are tried, found not guilty.
So by extension your claim is (logically) that NO race riot in the US has EVER had any connection to protesting injustice whatsoever. This is using an extreme to illustrate the point. If you can still cling to this flawed logic, it tells me you have never personally lived through a race riot. In which case good for you, but you should seriously consider stfu.
You just don't know. And ALL the evidence is against you. It would be nice if we didn't have to have this experience to understand what's going on a little better.
Meanwhile, others are saying George Floyd isn't really dead. I'm going to treat that just like the claim that Jeffery Epstein isn't dead; I don't actually have the facts to know either way. In one sense it would be nice if Floyd is alive, and it would make the cops behavior much easier to tolerate. At the same time this scenario would be even more sinister.
I find it hard to believe that people choosing to loot and destroy the private property of their own local community and neighbors are doing so out of anger and frustration at injustice that has nothing to do with the items being stolen or the property being destroyed.
Humor me and answer this question, do you believe that everything some of history's most infamous dictators did was done in the name of bettering their nation's people? Do you believe Stalin's Holodomor (an orchestrated genocide of ethnic Ukrainian's that competes with the Holocaust) was done because he truly believed it would be best for the USSR or because the potential uprisings in Ukraine represented a threat to his regime and rule? Do you believe that shortly following the death of Kim Jong Il, that Kim Jong Un had fed his uncle to dogs because it would ultimately be best for the people of North Korea or because Un was attempting to protect his own seat of power? Was Mao's Hundred Flowers Campaign done out of a genuine hope that it would lead China to greater prosperity or was it done because he wanted to root out any communist dissidents and have them exterminated so that the leadership would not be threatened?
The point I'm trying to make is that it's not unreasonable to draw lines in the sand and call actions out as alternatively motivated when they clearly are - even if they masquerade under the guise of stemming from a seemingly "obvious" separate motivation. The examples each highlight a very clear action that stems from a selfish desire (in this case, wanting to remain in power) but the very initial domino that fell to lead to the action presented may have originated from something else (all of the above each believed their rule or government organization would cause a better world). But just because Stalin happened to believe communism was truly the "greater good" system doesn't mean his government orchestrated genocide did not stem from selfish desires. There are times where actions and context speak for itself - people robbing their neighbors for high end electronics falls under that umbrella.
I also don't think it's fair to say "by extension of your logic" because you're missing the entire point of what I've been trying to argue - that people examine these things on a very individualistic and unique way. I would not call the Rodney King riots the same as this because the elements composing it are different, there would be a lot in it that wouldn't be fair to completely compare. I never said zero race riots in the US have their origins in frustration at injustice, I wouldn't say that because I don't think it's true. What I've been trying to argue is that you need to judge actions individually and question why those actions are occurring. Call me crazy, but when people opt to steal and horde valuables I begin to wonder what level of greed is influencing that individual's actions.
But you are right I could probably word things better. I'm honestly pretty tired now so my brain is somewhat fogged and makes expressing my thoughts a little difficult, I apologize for that.
And, lastly, you also don't know me or my experiences. You don't know if I grew up in a segregated neighborhood, if I grew up in a posh midtown Manhattan condo, if I'm old, if I'm young, if I'm white, black, Asian, Hispanic, etc. So perhaps you should heed your own advice and consider "stfu" before prattling off about "you don't know".
"I find it hard to believe that people choosing to loot and destroy the private property of their own local community and neighbors are doing so out of anger and frustration at injustice that has nothing to do with the items being stolen or the property being destroyed."
Why? Because YOU DON'T KNOW. That's inexperience. You've never lived through it. You've never discussed it with people caught up in it. In a way, good for you. At the same time this is the argument from ignorance, a logical flaw telling you the error in your own thinking that should give you pause and force you to either draw different conclusions or reserve judgment. One good use for a talk forum such as this is to try to draw perspectives from others that you could never experience yourself, and try to expand your understanding of the world you live in. I'm probably not the best person to try to explain how this works to you since I'm white. If "cocaine is a helluva drug," anger and frustration that is generations old can make people act irrationally too. And make no mistake, I do consider the behavior irrational.
"Humor me and answer this question, do you believe that everything some of history's most infamous dictators did was done in the name of bettering their nation's people?"
That's your question to me. When you insert the "in the name of," it becomes much easier to answer yes to more instances because the implication becomes they may have said so even when they had different motives. Hitler's easy: yes he really believed his chosen course of action was in his people's best interest. We could discuss those details for a LONG time as there's a LOT of material there.
Stalin? Again I'd have to say yes, but he was clearly willing to sacrifice LOTS of "his own" people, whereas those Hitler had killed he did not consider to be "his own" people, even if they lived in Germany. The Holodomor is a huge head scratcher for me. Hitler killed more civilians just in Leningrad Moscow and Stalingrad than the whole "Holocaust" combined. Stalin is more foreign to me, and Mao and Pol Pot even moreso. If you know of atrocities they did that they did NOT think were in the best interest of their Nation, I'd be interested to hear that. You haven't given any such examples. Instead you state "each believed their rule or government organization would cause a better world." I agree with that, although I know little about far eastern dictators beyond Japan in WWII.
I don't think any of those extended metaphors are necessary to compare and contrast Minneapolis now to LA at the time of Rodney King. In both cases I think a bunch of people were clearly angry and frustrated at the establishment devaluing their lives based on the color of their skin, regardless of how much truth there was or wasn't to that notion at work in the violence preceding the riots. In both cases some looters may have gone to the riots solely to rob. Maybe some weren't even poor. Thieves gonna thieve. I think the opportunity and temptation now is more widespread due to more widespread poverty due to lockdown. Or maybe that's exactly backwards and everybody there is in better financial shape than 90's LA due to the economy before 3/16?
I think it's better to look at individuals than to treat large groups as if they were all the same. I don't think there's any sense in assuming that NO one at either of these riots cared about the clear and obvious injustice in beating the fuck out of Rodney King, or in the sadistic murder of George Loyd. I think anyone would have to be a psychopath to not care. And while this mob all acts like psychopaths, those that weren't thieves, vandals or arsonists before this are probably primarily motivated by outrage over the sheer injustice. Then they're tempted by the opportunity to rob. At what point does that push out the fury over injustice?
The criminal mind and mob mentality are dark corners of human existence. I've spent a while deliberately becoming more brutal because I think brutality is the only thing that will save this Nation and I do think we face existential threats that have existed for a very long time and will only be coming to a head soon. So I think we have to prepare for worse than this. I think we can win our essential struggle without resorting to crime or mob mentality. In fact, I think we need to carefully guard against it!
In a completely different direction, we can hope that many black people see this on their own and get repulsed by the left and decide to vote Trump as a consequence of all this. What I really hope for the most is that we can have a fair election this year, so that the results answer questions like this. If we do nothing and just vote like normal I think there's basically NO chance of that happening, ever again. We provided a free election in fucking Afghanistan of all places, we should be able to do that here. We'll need to take radical action to make that happen, just not nearly as radical as war.
When I read that the Minneapolis Police 3rd Precinct was evacuated, I was stunned. The wall between the lawless thugs and citizens just collapsed itself because they were afraid of the consequences of defending themselves? I immediately thought back to Colonel Jessup of A Few Good Men:
"John, go on out there and get those boys down off the fence, they're packing their bags. Tom! Get me the President on the phone. We're surrendering our position in Cuba!....Wait a minute, Tom, don't get the President just yet. Maybe we should consider this for a second."
Good thing those blue state reps and leaders realized how exceptionally necessary an employed labor force that can contribute to their local communities is.... Oh wait, lockdowns.
There's nothing wrong with supporting those that help ensure order and attempt to keep everyone in society playing by the same rules set forward by that same society. I don't fully understand why acknowledging the importance of not having the rule enforcers immediately roll over because some people are upset gets your panties extra twisted, but you do you.
I'm willing to bet someone this guy has a bike lock on his person at all times, just in case he ever comes across a "bootlicker".
Anyway, to do what is apparently too difficult for you to do yourself (or it threatens to disprove your retarded theory so you naturally avoid it like the plague and stay in your mental safe space of assuming you're always right)...
Daniel Holtzclaw is currently serving a 263 year sentence for acts below homicide. Marcus Eberhard received a life sentence in Georgia after his use of force ultimately led to the individual's death. Joseph Miedzianowski of Chicago was given a life sentence for dealing drugs and weapons to gangs. To name a few. (Don't worry, I had to spend a whole several minutes looking that stuff up. I can see why the task seemed too difficult for you.)
ANYWAY.... If you wanna just go ahead and roll on over so I can keep barebacking ya, that'd be just great.
Spez: Don't forget to downvote this one too! Uh-oh! Someone disagrees with you, better furrow your brow and continue having a tantrum.
You cannot possibly pretend LEOs are subjected to the same justice system we are. The fact that a VERY rare few have been convicted does NOTHING to change this - and it's mostly a recent occurrence.
So, just to make sure I have your argument correct, I'm challenged to present cases where officers are held to the same standard. I do so (rather easily, by the way). And then you go "Well those are just exceptions" and continue to talk about your belief as though it were some axiomatic truth? Seriously? Talk about dismissive.
The replies have me in tears. The TDS is not containable. The leftists making themselves look deranged and disconnected from reality only helps you all in November!
This is going to make liberals heads explode. He is restoring order where local authorities have not (likely for political reasons. Just see the staged CNN ‘arrest’). Yet, is doing so in a way that reinforces that a man may have died unjustifiable and we need to make sure that an appropriate and productive response is needed going forward.
Mayor and Governor ordered NG to stand down. Last night, I believe. I think POTUS can override, and it seems to me that NG would only do anything under POTUS' authority, Mayor and Governor sticking to principle that orange man bad.
I don't know what to make of this, pass the popcorn!
The argument can be made for just using the NG to contain them to neighborhoods that are already destroyed, and allow them to continue killing each other. Maybe defend businesses that aren't destroyed yet, if any exist.
Or do we just confine them to their war zone and let them kill each other? This is Somalia, after all. US policy has long been that as long as Muslims are killing Muslims, all is right with the world. Why fix it if it ain't broke?
And no more nation building. The Mayor and Governor want to scheme to make this as bad as possible? Fine. Let them figure out how to fix it. NO federal funds!
So the dem mayors can sit on their asses until Trump sends in the guard (otherwise Trump isn't doing anything!), then blames Trump for being racist against all those poor disenfranchised somalians (Trump's a racist!).
F my states leadership. You @$$holes have allowed this to go on for a few reasons.
You didn't (and still have not) arrest the police Officers.
You allowed the third precinct to be burnt to ground.
Both fo you and the Mayor of MPLS are cowards and disgust me. And now I am going to watch the MN NG get shot at (already have) and this is escalated because of your cowardice.
Disgusting POS have done NOTHING as I watch my home town burn to the ground.
Guard were activated last night. They were never given clear orders. The states AG had to assume a proper course of action(s) appropriate. For now they surrounding the firefighters or have since this is a few hours old now.
Curfew is in effect. 8PM-0600 CST. The police station is toast. To badly damaged and most likely will tear it down and rebuild.
Thanks for these details. I guess the thing to do now is see if curfew is observed, or what. These seem like reasonable steps to me. I was told Mayor and Governor had ordered NG to "stand down." I guess that's not nearly so bad as NG arriving there but having to wait for their normal chain of command to figure out what to do. I mean that's pretty fucking bad when a military commander has to call a time out, lol. That could easily result in our forces taking fire and not having permission to act.
Hopefully this civilian action hasn't resulted in anything like that, and won't.
For people that are saying this is 100% a good thing. The fact is they shouldn't need the national guard. It wouldn't have been needed if the police forces in Minnesota didn't let things get out of control.
The Police failed the community when one of them decided to sadistically murder someone, and three other cops decided to be accessories to that murder.
I'm not saying anything about this is somehow good, but the public outrage over this from the black community is more justified than anything else I know about since the Civil War.
I think this is a deadman switch, a Soros funded false flag attack. It is possible that the cop with his knee on George's neck really is that fucked up, but did you see the look on his face as he murdered George?
Hands up, don't loot.
Pants up, don't loot.
Michelle Obama has a penis.
That is all.
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If you shooty shoot in the da booty boot you get sticky dicky from pooty poot, yo.
True but I keep my own balls
Ok, truth or dare: when did you create that account? LOL
Goddamn right
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Seeing as how it's a mainly Muslim invading colony.
Twitter fact check: True.
Oof. I really do hope we don't become a central location for this usage of the word "jogger." Not that I have no sense of humor or that I want to give even an inch to PC bs, but this sort of development is exactly what our enemies look for.
This also raises the question of "deadman switch;" as in, was George Floyd's death deliberately setup by Soros (et al) as a deadman switch to further destroy the US? That conversation should be happening here, sometime. Maybe it deserves its own separate post?
Anyway we should fight their efforts to destroy the US, rather than play into their hands. It's not always easy to see how to navigate that.
The time for this was before mass immigration. It's too late now. Balkanization is inevitable.
Politics is downstream from culture.
'Jogger' is satire for someone who clearly wasn't just jogging once the facts came out.
Ok, thanks. Yes I did think anytime people were using it it referred to black men suspected of being criminals but pretending to be innocent. This is all connected back to that one black man jogging that was shot with a shotgun by two white men, right? Like back in December or something? That never became a thing until recently, just weeks ago?
I missed the online sensation of this developing. Is it also used by black people?
Lol this is GREAT! Thanks for this. Agree 100% with you about "aren't really racist in their hearts," I just wish leftists would afford anyone they don't know that same latitude.
I remember when people used to be able to joke together IRL and it wasn't about anything other than just having fun. Our society REALLY needs to get back to that! Congrats on having at least a small slice of that with some known friends ...
Do you have any idea just how many theytube comments, posts on the various chans and even fakebook there are that use that term? So, no this isn't the place that uses that word the most...
Ok, but still. They can't point to any of those as being exclusively Trump supporters. I mean if we were using the term solely to refer to criminals pretending to be innocent, that'd be one thing. Another variant of dindunuffin.
But if we're just throwing around a racial slur in the hopes that we can get away with it? It's just not the way to win an election. We should check our attitude under the final rule here, "don't be stupid," and not just be concerned with verbiage.
Especially with the recent war on social media platforms / publishers, we should expect heightened scrutiny and whatever we say HERE to become tomorrow's news that forever haunts us if we screw up.
No harm no foul as far as I'm concerned, but going forward - do you see my point?
Oh that's asking a lot.
All the looting and the belt rack still full.
WHILE BIDEN SHARTS
EL OH EL
Pants up, Don't loot!
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Going to town, with one in the brown
4D chess
Ffs guys. 4D chess is 3 dimensional ordinary chess played over time, so 4D chess is regular chess.
Assuming you would be able to move forward and backwards.
Trump time traveler confirmed.
6D stratagema, blindfolded
"Regular chess" is 2D. 3D chess adds the vertical dimension. Totally irrelevant to the OP, just to clarify; but you're right, if we go around saying "4D chess," pedocrats could use that as ammo.
That's my point. Saying "4D chess" makes us look stupid.
I don’t really give a shit about pedocrats. It’s their fault for not understanding about other spatial dimensions.
My issue with the greatest generation is sure, they survived the depression and won WWII, but they failed the single most important test, which is passing their values onto the next generation. The fucking boomers are probably the single most destructive generation this nation has ever seen. Its' not gen-x, it's not millennial, it's not zoomers or whatever the fuck we're calling them, the hands that destroyed America came straight out of boomer culture.
EDIT: Damn that little rant hit a nerve. A lot of interesting replies and viewpoints.
It's like they're not smart enough to realize that capitalism is great when you keep filthy fucking politicians out of it. But it's impossible to appreciate capitalism if you've never gone out and earned anything on your own.
Ruling Democrats don't hate the rich at all - they just want to make certain that only a very, very select few become rich, and it's always themselves.
The Sheep Democrats only exist to provide labour for the Ruling Democrats and have absolutely no hope of ever becoming rich themselves, no matter what the Ruling Democrats tell them.
If the Sheep ever face this fact, the Rulers are done, but so far that has not happened. The Sheep just accept that their Rulers are filthy rich while the Sheep have nothing because whitey.
The Sheep accept this because they just can't believe their Rulers would do this. Their kind and diversity-loving Rulers don't keep Sheep just to eat them! That's an insane conspiracy theory!
Isn't it?
Username most certainly does NOT check out! There's nothing faggy about that at all. It's a spot on observation.
You can seen this very clearly with Obamacare. The privately owned insurance companies got to continue fleecing everyone, the poor got "free" healthcare, and the middle class got to pay the increased premiums.
Did this push more people from the middle class into the poor? Of course, but now those new poor can get the new benefits. Just gotta ramp up the premiums for the middle class, causing more of them to fall into poverty, but then they'll get more benefits, so we raise premiums again...
Sorry I trailed off there. The survival of my moronic worldview depends on me not finishing that thought.
aren't boomers the only generation that would get more out of social security than they paid into it??
Not sure but I know they don't look at it as a safety net but a retirement account. I saw a billboard a while back that was actually advertising SS long the lines of "You've worked hard all your life and now it's time to do all the things you've dreamed of." And there was this old fucker with an electric guitar. Why on earth you would advertise that is beyond me. SS is not there to make your fucking childish rockstar dreams come true. You should have to pay for that shit yourself.
You can't say "they" about ANY group and be even remotely accurate. No group is a monolithic block. Especially if you're going to form your opinion based on billboard advertising. That's not reflective of anyone but the advertising company and their client, which was probably some investment "financial services" company.
You can do better than this, I'm sure.
Exceptions do not disprove trends. To believe otherwise is to think every group on Earth is the same. Ridiculous.
Oh is accuracy a big concern for you? I can say they. i don't need to point out every single individual and put them in separate buckets. When I say they I mean the types of assholes I'm talking about. I don't need to do better than that to satisfy a concern troll
And you have no idea what I saw so don't try and clarify it for me. It was not an investment service. It was a baffling advertisement for Social Security.
LOL, ever watch what those retirees are pictured doing in the Big Pharma ads on the evening network news broadcasts? They are doing shit that I didn't even do in my 20s (namely because I couldn't afford it).
Yes, and that's how all the commie policies work.
FDR knew social security is not sustainable and will bite the dust. But not before he gets elected a few times.
Then came the WW2 and a great boom. That helped SS stay afloat for far longer than possible.
Without capitalism, none of the commie programs get any funds.
No, and SS is doomed to fail after 100 years. It'd be a pretty rare case where anyone pays into SS less than they draw.
I'll never collect social security, who are you kidding? And a "boomer" is a nuclear submarine, the most survivable component of our nuclear triad.
Don’t forget massive amnesty for illegal aliens.
Reagan is a baby boomer now? Um, NO. DJT is the oldest baby boomer, Ronnie Raygun was born in 1911. And even he did the massive amnesty thing in exchange for funding a border barrier, which Ds never followed through on. Proving forever that they can't be trusted.
So was ditching your kids.
You're leaving out the communist infiltration and non-Christian takeover of America. It wasn't a failure. It was a defeat.
I'm Gen-X. The Baby Boomers were the generation before me. Believe me, they tried conveying the old values, but everything in media and education was against them. You have to keep in mind that the propaganda was fairly new at that point. Nobody understood it or knew how to counteract it.
Blaming the entire boomer generation is like saying we're currently all failures for letting the COVID hysteria lock down America.
And by the way, this boomer hate is part of the same propaganda of division. (White vs black. Rich vs poor. Old vs young.) That's why I'm countering it now. I've learned a few things since I was a kid.
They did in large part try to give us their conservative values but we were all too busy watching The Real World on MTV and being taught the stupidest shit anyone could imagine. MTV also taught stupid kids like us that we needed to vote but were never concerned with us being informed.
You and I agree that we have learned a lot since then and things are now clearer. This is why I favor changing the voting age to 25 (or at least change it in a way that prevents stupid kids from casting an emotional vote).
Scroon, you speak TRUTH! Case in point: the deliberate destruction of the "nuclear family" directly resulted in my ex-wife and Mother of my children hiding all parent teacher conferences from me. I would've made "quite the impression" on teachers enforcing policies where Muslims can disrupt hall traffic between classes to pray (thereby making lots late to class) while my kids (and everyone else their age) weren't allowed to pray, carry a Bible or wear anything expressing Christianity. Christian extra-curricular groups were broken up. This attack on Christianity is only ONE front, and it could well be argued that other problems are more consequential.
Not that I'm claiming ANY effort parents could've done would've actually made a difference. This is a gobalist agenda, which isn't even really communist at its core: it's even bigger than that!
I'll add it's equally despicable for my generation to pick on millennials. The only "us vs them" that matters is E Pluribus Unum vs the very few truly financial elite, who profit obscenely from issuing and controlling our currency. That is not a generational divide, nor does it only follow specific families. We can't get to them directly in any way that I know of. What we SHOULD be doing is physically removing our Governors from Office under citizen's arrest, under the charge of mass murder. In those rare instances where the Governor is decent, focus on the most tyrannical Mayor instead. Getting 20,000 patriots at every State capitol all at the same time is less likely when we fall for their strategy of divide and conquer. Class action lawsuits, both civil and criminal in every State, is how we win a lasting victory but that takes years to get through the Courts. We HAVE TO act before November.
This impacts the bankers because if we do this all our other enemies shit their pants and retreat back into the shadows where they prefer to operate from anyway. How many times has DJT told us he can't drain the swamp and MAGA all by himself, he needs our help? We do this and he knows we mean business, and that we have his back. Literally! He says he "caught them all," we'd need to solicit his help and route them out from their hiding places. DJT would be proud of We the People finally doing the right thing.
You're both right. I don't blame the Boomer generation for what OP said bc of your argument, but they are absolutely to blame for the pathetic govt population at every level. They didn't care about who led them and now we're stuck with hundreds of thousands of incompetents suckling taxpayer teats and horribly inept/corrupt leaders. Unfortunately this coincided with the tech boom, and now that propaganda is more powerful and easier to disseminate than ever before, we've got clowns all the way down utilizing it to reprogram our people.
Corruption of US government is FAR more complex than you're making it out here. At what time did baby boomers have all the control over voting? Even now there are LOTS of voters older than baby boomers, and we're also getting squeezed out by younger generations.
You seem to not have noticed that (except for DJT) no matter who we vote for we get the same agenda? "The uniparty" is a foreign concept to you? You are completely unaware of globalism?
Look into the CFR, BIS, Fed, IMF, TLC, MIC, MSM, big pharma, IC; these are not at all about the generational divide as you assert, but about power being retained by an elite few. FAR fewer than "the 1%."
They had control over their descendants learning why it's important to be active in local, state, and federal politics. In a time with no war to focus everyone's attention, this is even more critical. If you want a republic, you have to be engaged as a citizen and promote it among your peers and offspring. If you don't want to do that, then prepare for inevitable societal collapse then dictatorship. If you truly believe that all those lettered agencies have had unfettered control for 50+ years then this country has already been dead for decades. I agree that it's not a simple answer, and I'm not fully blaming that gen, but our ultimate problem is we don't participate near enough to be successful. That starts with every adult citizen who cares about their community. Assuming someone else will do it is why we're controlled by a quasi oligarchy.
Yeah honestly this is one thing I truly don’t understand as a 40 year old. Is the “Boomer” hate thing just another flavor of “I hate my parents”? Or is there something I am missing about what they believe Boomers have done to the world! It’s a serious question.
I think there is genuine criticism of that generation essentially "gatekeeping" industries to keep their gravy train rolling. For instance, i worked a job in a lab where the assistants were all far more educated than the "technical" personnel who had been grandfathered in. When they were getting started, it was acceptable to be trained on the job. That same job now requires a 4 year degree and an additional 1-2 years of technical certification. There is just so much more red tape required these days.
Hell I know a guy who was trained on-the-job for autopsies and pathology grossing, he's fucking brilliant at it and never stepped foot inside a college. Want to do that now? Fat chance, it requires near doctor level investment in school... 6 years minimum.
Employers no longer seem interested in investing in their workforce like they used to.
Interesting, thanks. I mean, I agree the world today is shit all around compared to the way I grew up as well as how noble I viewed my grandparents generation to be. I always just blame it on technology personally — to me, that’s destroyed who we are and how the world operates, but not necessarily because the Baby Boomers did anything. All I know is that we haven’t had a solid generation in some time and it gets worse with each one that comes along. Glad to see so many Gen-Z Trump supporters tough. It gives me hope we’re in for a Renaissance of sorts after everything inevitably falls apart.
It's someone to blame for their own shortcomings.
^^^This guy gets it.
So hard to guess what age bracket is considered a “boomer” these days when everyone calls everyone a boomer.
That's not it. Born 1946-64.
Generations have always been held to be 20 years. Since Gen X was decided to end in 1980, Gen Y should be 1981 to 2000, and Gen Z should be 2001 - 2020.
This silliness was never a thing before. "Baby boomer" made sense as it started as you correctly stated and ended the year I was born; I in fact saw years immediately following me in school shrink in size. It truly was the end of the baby boom.
We started naming decades, then devolved into this element of the globohomo's divide and conquer strategy. We need to rise above it! (And every other bogus attempt they make to prey upon the very worst of human nature, which takes exactly ZERO talent)
Ok boomer
This but unironically
Like literally this.
Ok zoomer
Ok zoomer/coomer/doomer/bloomer.
Did I forget anything? I guess I should just use *oomer from now on.
OKLAHOMA SOONERS
The dogpile grows...
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It's pretty much anyone over 55. Some definitions say 1965, others say 1963. It's a pretty broad statement to say that all of America's problems are "boomers" fault.
I agree. I'm GenX but am of an age where I could easily have kids that are in their early 20's being total fuck ups. I personally blame my generation for creating all these wacko feminists and trannies.
Again I think it's too broad to blame any one generation. It's part of the USSR plot to overthrow the US, and also part of the globalist agenda to destroy the US and impose OWG. These efforts made historic inroads in NYC and RI (LGBTQBBQ+) and I as the youngest baby boomer was there at the beginning of the bra burning feminists. ("I was there" meaning I witnessed it, not that I took part.Plus I'm a guy) Although whatever "Wave" of feminism they're up to now is a completely different beast.
This couldn't have happened without schools having been taken over by Marxists supporting the globalist agenda, which started bigly in 1921. This ties in directly to the creation of the Fed in 1913.
That all makes sense but I am only focusing on Boomers because they are the ones drawing SS right now and that's what the topic is. We know for a fact that many Boomers have not saved a penny and plan to rely on welfare for retirement. It's just a fact. It will be a fact when I am that age, when the Millenials are that age, etc.
Translation: Boomers have become a burden on society.
It's a fucking moronic statement to blame a generation for everything wrong in society today.
But its understandable because it's quite clear that the average age of the people who post the most on this forum are probably late teens to mid 20s.
And that age group always thinks they know better than their elders.
But its always easy to do Monday morning quarterbacking.
Us older people can easily blame the young of today for everything bad in society too but again that would be moronic and require a low IQ level of critical thinking.
Born in 1964 is universally accepted as the end of the baby boom, and thus the end of the baby boomer generation. It was readily visible to see the decline. The youngest baby boomers (me) are presently 55, and turn 56 this year.
The oldest baby boomer is DJT, who turns 74 this year. LOTS of people still in power who are too old to be a baby boomer!
Facts matter. You're close!
It's broadly accurate.
Glad your here to clean up the mess, you sound so virtuous.
The hero we all deserve.
There is always a little intermediate overlapping group of people but basically it is anyone born after WWII and before 1965. But you are correct given what a lot of dumb ass kids say. They are so uninformed these days it just boggles the mind.
"Boomer" is a nuclear submarine, the most survivable element of our nuclear triad. With no planned replacement. Once they're all out of commission China will be a much bigger threat.
It wasn’t all boomers though. The target of your ire should be the counter culture hippie movement. They were literally counter to our culture. It was a generations long psyop that we are dealing with the fallout from.
However, they were also brainwashed.
The whole movement was essentially a CIA-drug fueled social experiment.
After 1960, they had the birth control pill, so promiscuity became rampant.
They were being manipulated, too.
They didn't think they were counter to our culture; they thought they were counter to the Hawks.
They were about peace and love.
The idea behind it was to drug people out so they could be controlled.
So who's behind all this social engineering...that's been going on for thousands of years?
Those who cannot be named.
Name and shame! I refuse to be intimidated
It's not as simple as "the Rothschilds," and hasn't been since the French revolution. Our most direct route to overthrowing these bastards is citizen's arrest of our Governors. The most peaceful and effective way to do it is 20,000 patriots at every State Capitol, all at the same time. but we have to do it while so many are still out of work, and LONG before November.
That’s not who I was thinking of, but good job playing the game.
This is only one small microcosm of the bigger effort.
Perhaps the saddest part of this is bebop jazz musicians learned in the 50's that heroin is bad news, and here we are, experiencing a heroin "epidemic."
If you went through that shit, it was likely assumed that it would be self-evident to the kids. Also it was just a time they all just were fucking done, didnt want to relive that era, and just wanted their kids to live the life they all were denied.
Unfortunately you cant have it both ways.
Something something eternal vigilance, ah fuck it, kick back a bit. What's the worst that could happen.
Yeah?
How dare they. Born before WW1, live through the Spanish Flu, the Depression, drafted to another world war, get shot at for 4 years in horrid conditions.
But fuck them for being like "I'm going to enjoy the fact that I survived".
They still have a duty to teach their kids not to be Communists.
Their kids are fucking idiots then. Your argument means, if your parents die, you cannot learn for yourself.
Drink your soy, and hope your mom gives you some money today.
Man up.
You can lead a horse to water.....
No this is wrong. Baby boomers were largely NOT children of WWII vets, even though that IS when the baby boom began. We certainly aren't the ones that ushered in communism. We're the ones that grew up with air raid drills in bomb shelters and were otherwise FAR more affected by the cold war than any younger generation.
WWII vets did NOT raise kids to be communists. Wtf are you thinking?
Public education having been taken over by the government with the creation of the DoE is what helped to create the current idiotic embrace of communism among our youth. Most parents find it horrifying, regardless what age the parent is.
. . . and it continues unabated. How are anti-American lefty agitators like Soros still running free?
If you don't fight evil, evil takes over.
Sorry Professor
Take it with my blessing 🐸
Away with you Trolltard
Obama built this.
I meant specifically the Somali resettlement in Minneapolis. But yeah, it goes way back. Almost as if this is a long term game someone is playing.
It's like they lost the civil war and were like "eh we will try again in 100 years"
Even further back than that. Truman really fucked us. We could have gone after the Soviet’s in ‘45/46 and won. We could have gone after China in ‘51 and won. That would have knocked communism out. But Truman was too much of a feckless leader to actually see the bigger picture and nip the problem in the bud.
1913
Obama’s legacy.
Hitler had many Jewish officers. Turns out, some people are complete traitors.
Every time.
Overall, no. Just plain old ordinary black and white criminals
He's just pandering to his base. His city, Little Mogadishu, is a shithole.
millennials destroyed it. hopefully our children will rebuild
*Zoomers destroyed it.
This.
Millennials were probably the ones telling them to go home and get off the streets.
Not gonna pretend Millennials aren't cucked as well, I'm a millennial and I'll admit that. But like you said most millennials are still too scared about the plandemic even do anything lmao. They'll cheer on from the background though but I say the majority of the folks out there were Zoomers. Like think about a public school with a lot of behavioral problems, agitators will be more likely to involve demographics like that to cause the most destruction because they are much more likely to cause crimes than millennials who are at least 23 in 2020. A millennial that acts like that is more likely to be in jail at this point. A Zoomer that acts like that is more likely to be out of jail and available to riot. The way I see it.
TL;DR there were definitely more Zoomers than any other generation out there.
Who invented social media? That surely qualifies as "opiate of the masses". Which gens get hit by cars crossing the street 'cause they can't take their eyes off their phones?
Modern version.
They want the optics of a totalitarian dictatorship. That's why the CNN video is fake.
I think this is the dems end game, they are hoping the NG shoots some protesters down and they can scream TRUMP IS KILLING BLACK PEOPLE!
Ever since Kent State, the left has been dreaming of a reeeeeepeat. And the summer before a Presidential election is perfect timing for them to stir up the shit.
There were some more killed students by the government later that year. They didn't get publicized at all.
Gotta link?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_State_killings
Plot twist: Trump deployed only black NG members
I hate that I laughed at that.
That just means you still have your soul...
SOUL TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES!
Get down, get down
Get down, James Brown!
(Said in James Brown’s voice, and also my brother who did a great James Brown imitation!)
Aaaaaahhhhh-OH!, Rub-a-dub-dub in da hot tub! Hit it!
Haha, heard my brother saying that! Thanks for the flashback lol!
Eddie Murphy did it better :)
Yup!
That is 100 percent what they are wanting. And if that happens, I don't even really want to think about what the ramifications will be.
More Soros agitation for hire.
A guy that defended his store from the looters is in jail now for shooting someone, thats part of the reason.
Well their government was a bunch of lefty sympathizers, so of course they won't do anything.
If we were out there stopping this, we would be arrested for vigilante justice and those same lefty politicians who run the place would make examples of us because Orange man bad.
The way we win is by physically removing our Governors from Office via citizen's arrest for mass murder. 20,000 of us at each State Capitol, all at the same time. Class action lawsuits, both civil and criminal, those are what give us a lasting victory but expect them to be tied up in Court for years so we need to act within 3 months. It takes a lot of understanding the big picture to see how this gets to the financial elite, but they do not protect Governors. They don't want us uniting against them, they want us fighting our fellow Americans. Don't cooperate with their strategy of divide and conquer! That's how they win.
And the NG will likely be used exclusively against such people or to disarm such people from protecting themselves from black rioters.
The laws in Minnesota are criminal-centric. One of the few arrests was the pawn shop owner, who shot someone in the desperate attempt not to lose his store, and thus, his livelihood. Looters, arsonists and rioters running free, a store owner gets arrested. Sound familiar?
It's amazing to me that they have let this happen, and will still most likely vote for the same type of people who allowed it to happen.
The store owners aren't the ones voting left, it's the minorities and legal immigrants.
All minority groups vote 78-90% left. All legal immigrants vote 90% left. There's one group in this country that votes 70+% conservative consistently, and they're the people being attacked for no reason and having their property burned.
You say "sound familiar?" Can you explain the context? Are you just saying "white man bad," or is there more?
The opposite.
Oh shoot, that question was directed at bill_in_texas. It sure doesn't look that way now!
"Our cities?" Are any protesters, anywhere, destroying anything that isn't their own neighborhood?
I'm ok with continuing the obvious US policy of allowing Muslims to kill Muslims. This is basically Somalia where this is happening. (Not referring to the other cities where it's spreading, but aren't those all D strongholds too?)
How bout we just confine them to their own area, and let them kill each other?
The problem is that it hasn't been.
Not organized enough? Not active enough? Haven't deposed our Governors yet?
Yes, yes, and YES!!
No School Shooting . next best thing Race Riot.it Never Ends . the Evil of it All
What will they do when this also fails?
Already been done.
Maybe they will try to incite a war with another country.
Wait... They did that already too. Remember the Kentucky shooting range footage they used to say it was syrians being attacked because Trump removed troops?
Yup. Who knows what they have up their sleeve for next time.
More deadman switches. Plague famine and war are primary.
Project blue beam
Reference?
Nuke Milwaukee or St Augustine Florida?
Nukes aren't the answer. You're thinking of the DNC convention?
Fails? It already succeeded as it's the only thing in the news. Next up is a mass shooting.
Riot, shooting, pandemic, oh my!
Well they had to wait for warm weather to do this.
They have to rotate between shooting and race riot, otherwise we get bored.
CNN: Here's why Trump avenging a Black person's death is racist
"trump sends in military to help remove black people from city"
Vox: Trump stopping peaceful looters and rioters is concerning. Here's why.
You laugh but that's the current chant. It's stupid. The whole thing. I watched several different Floyd videos and never - not once - did I see anything that suggested the police were doing this out of some sort of racial hatred. I've yet to see evidence that shows Chauvin or any of the other officers had anti-black sentiment (outside of doctored photos which even Snopes called out as false) and I've yet to see that this was anything outside of a terrible accident at its best and at its worst a clear sign of police brutality with one man abusing another man.
Yet, lo and behold, someone was white and someone else was black so NATURALLY every leftist asshole, every media outlet that has been foaming at the mouth to condemn Trump over any little thing, every social media hag that spends every passing thought trying to find a way to misrepresent and slant and skew, have all immediately ran towards "RACE! RACE! IT WAS CLEARLY RACIALLY MOTIVATED! NO QUESTION ABOUT IT!"
It's honestly sickening and tells a lot more about how they think they I believe they realize. People aren't people in their eyes apparently. It's asking too much to have them see this situation and think that it's a person hurting another person - to view these people as fundamentally equal in beginnings and then use evidence such as past behavior or what was said to judge accordingly and adjust beliefs for motivations from there. Nope. Asking for a freaking miracle at that point. For them, it's race and nothing else. They don't see a man and another man. They see white and black. Really shows who the real racists are...
Why not just full on embrace The Purge at that point? Might as well write it into law. It'd honestly probably be less devastating and costly if that's their philosophy.
Wow you can't watch the video of the murder and claim it was somehow an accident or that only one cop was the perpetrator. The 3 other cops there had the DUTY to knock the one cop off George, who was dead by the time the cop stopped kneeling on his neck. Look at that sadist's face, he knew he was killing him and he enjoyed it.
This is the most justified public outrage in the black community since the Civil War, with the Rodney King riots perhaps coming in second place.
I've never said people don't have a right to be outraged, I've said that people are jumping to conclusions about the motivation.
How do you know Chauvin wasn't just a piece of shit officer that abused power on any and all people he came across? How do you know his motivation stemmed from race? The answer is you don't.
I honestly welcome you to provide anything to suggest that it was a racially motivated action because I've yet to see anything beyond that it was police brutality being inflicted on an individual by another. Again, note I never said it wasn't terrible, that police brutality isn't something we all need to examine and solve, that there needs to be repercussions, any of that. All I've said is that somehow people have been able to label this as a racist act and I've yet to see anything to defend the idea that it was racially motivated outside of people simply seeing that one man is white and another is black (which itself is ironically a pretty racist way to view this and pigeonhole the world and its happenings).
If events had unfolded exactly the same - every word uttered was the same, every thought that went through everyone's mind was the same, every action performed by all individuals was the same, literally everything in the world was exactly the same - as it was with Floyd but instead a white man was the victim, would you still say it was a racially motivated action? Because I highly doubt you would. I think you would call it police brutality, I think people would be (rightfully) angry, but there wouldn't be these mass "racism" chants and riots. And what in that scenario changed? Only one thing - the race of the victim. So, somehow, under one scenario it's textbook racism yet under another - with everything but one factor being different (meaning same actions, same words, same thoughts, literally everything but that one thing) - it's police brutality.
CNN: MN government over reaching their powers and arresting everyone, including our staff. That's a good thing.
Preserve the Union. Fuck these leftist twerps.
Dude, seriously stop with the over-dramatization.
This isnt the first riot in the past 160 years. There have been more and far worse, with far more people dead.
I dont even think the number killed can even be counted on one hand.
This is just the story of the week, and will likely be done by this time next week.
Especially when excluding friendly fire, like the Jogger at the liquor store
I'm not, and people in 1968 were closer to a real civil war. Lots more mass violence in the streets than we see today.
LOL!
You really try hard, dont you?
There are plenty of white girls for you to date and fuck, and have kids with.
If you arent trolling, then you ought to be on it right now.
Not without civil war first. You think the unionists would lose, if it were to happen again?
OK, but why assume it would stop just because we balkanized? Were the LGB happy after they got their way, or didn't they then push T on us afterward? Leftists never stop. Which means WE shouldn't either, until they're beat down into dirt (if necessary).
That's exactly right. They'd get a stronghold then go after each state one by one. They don't want coexistence. That's obvious because it's already being offered to them and they're rejecting it.
You're an anarchist. Go to Minneapolis and be happy.
Underrated
When this shit comes close to home... Embrace your inner Rooftop Korean!
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2019/05/02/be-a-rooftop-korean-n2545651
Gods speed to those trying to bring order to this chaos.
Send in those firefighting planes and dump a lake on the rioters and looters.
Anyone caught rioting who isn't a natural born citizen should be deported back to their country of origin. The other ones should have to sit through John Podesta's Fatherhood video.
As a terrorist for sure.
Technically, by US federal law every single rioter in the city right now can be charged for terrorism, because they are using violence to push a political agenda.
We should deport all those anti-fa who were spray painting their anarchy/anti-cop shit too. I know they're likely (sadly) citizens, we've just had enough of their nonsense for a while.
Ideally we would drop them off on the other side of where the wall extends the longest, for maximum lolz.
That might make them more retarded and gay. Lol
Is that even possible?
Probably not.
What they should have sprayed on the streets outside the police precinct: Mobility Denial System.
That's pretty cool, I'm guessing it's a pain in the ass to clean up maybe? Or they just don't need it most of the time so they didn't invest in it. Shame either way.
It would be fun to watch those stooges try to walk through it though. You certainly wouldn't be able to carry a flat screen TV walking through that slop.
That guy who brought a chainsaw would slip and cut off his leg and then they'd riot harder.
I've seen those big firefighting choppers filling up at the park near my house when a fire broke out a few years ago at a warehouse.
The amount of water they can instantly dump is very impressive. I would NOT want to be caught underneath that. A water cannon is one thing, it'll knock you flat on your ass. What's a Sikorsky S64 dropping the equivalent of a small swimming pool going to do to the human body?
Terminal velocity would pose limits. Perhaps start on a burning police precinct and maybe miss by a little...
So this is a time stamp in trumps history to watch. Lets hope National Guard brings some sort of order that Minneapolis couldn't do, but also continuing to not interfere with the protests. Lets also hope the protesters dont get aggressive and rush Nation Guard to allow for retaliation and cause a Kent State scenario.
A big win for trump imho is for him to demand a bill or do an executive order for Police Officers / Precinct reform of some sort. He says he wants to see justice for Floyd and this would back it up even more than putting DOJ + FBI + State prosecutor on independent investigations
THIS GUY GETS IT
What kind of reform do you think would be able to be done?
It’d be interesting for sure, but it can’t be an empty bill. He needs to provide actual change if there is really to be justice.
So I think a few things could atleast be brought into the conversation into terms of reform. I dont know all the answers but here is my take from how I have seen Police forces evolve to what it is now in many place:
So i think from a training perspective, shooting training and frequency must be tightened and have high as fuck standards. Frequency of testing behind your daily firearm use must be 1x a month or more frequent with MOA standards implemented. Introduce non lethals more often, as in situations like this. (I understand non lethals can put officers at risk vs a real threat, idk the balance ill be honest b.c police officers are human and they have families too)
Under stress training (Practice with bb's, blanks, self defense shit) should be on rotation 3-4x a year in groups that the military provides (for free since u know we pay that already) to law enforcement or that local trainers do (for a fee). Not this 1x a year, a "oh u got picked" type of stuff.
Mandatory counseling and mandatory therapy availability on payroll at the local or state level, free to be used by law enforcement but yet sorta of mandatory to weed out officers that may show signs of stress, anger, etc.
What i am trying to figure out is rules of engagement guidelines to prevent what we have recently seen this officer do to Floyd. How did that officer get to that mentality that its ok to sit on a dudes neck until he died, when the dude was obviously not going anywhere. Or creating / enforcing protections against citizens to intervene in a situation like this.
The thing is, the cop worked with George at a nightclub up until the end of last year. He knew the guy and most likely had a grudge against him. Whether or not he killed him on purpose or just took it too far and it was an accident is the question. Either way, it's not necessarily the fault of the police department and their training in these situations. Dude was just crazy and had a bone to pick with this guy most likely.
I've been watching a few Cop YouTuber videos about this and one thing that stuck out was that they all say: "That hold is not procedure." "There's no department in the world that teaches that." "This guy is fucking up." etc.
So if the guy who fucked up was already breaking the rules doing his own thing.... what the fuck do we change? He already will be prosecuted.
It's like saying: "This criminal offended us so much we demand you change the system!" We're already going to arrest and charge the guy, clearly we don't think this is OK.
I think like Trayvon it's largely inactionable emotion. Scary stuff.
Yeah exactly. But how are these people going to just immediately start rioting as if you can charge somebody with murder overnight? It's absolutely ridiculous.
Watch the video - cop KNEW he was killing George and enjoyed it. George was dead before cop took his knee off his neck.
That first point is something I’ve been thinking about. On one hand I don’t think officers should be able to fire a weapon unless they’re either being shot at or have a weapon pointed at them, but on the other hand that puts them at a huge disadvantage should shit hit the fan. It’s really tough to figure out a clear guideline for something like this. Officers have families too and it’s a stressful job and the majority of them are good people and their lives shouldn’t be threatened because a few cops were bad apples.
I do think stress training would be a good start. It is a stressful job and they should be able to handle that stress. People get desperate when they’re stressed and that can lead to bad decision making. Training with the military would help with this, but I can see how people would think the police is being militarized.
I think the mandatory counseling could be huge. A lot of these issues could have been prevented by just seeing how the officers react to certain situations or just checking in on their past. This officer in particular had no business being a law enforcement officer based on his past. Every complaint needs an investigation. Sure it’ll be tedious and pointless most the time, but I think it’d be a big way to boost police/community relations if the therapy and investigations are actually taken seriously.
Rules of engagement are hard to talk about because most of us aren’t in their positions and deal with the shit they do on a daily basis. Which comes back to the whole training/therapy thing. We need to put every officer in a situation where they feel comfortable with anything that could happen from the job. If there is a shooting, while scary and stressful, they need to feel comfortable handling the situation based off the tons of training they go through.
This is the first time out of all these “cop/black male” crimes where I felt there was really no justification for the officers actions. Other times they were resisting, or attacking, or quickly reaching for something, but this one is inexcusable.
I think another good idea would be to have at least one officer in each squad or pair to have some type of basic medical training. Someone that can “check a pulse”. No one should die when they are in police custody unless an officers life is in danger, which was not the case here. Even in other situations a medical officer could be of assistance. Show up to a DV conflict and someone is injured? They could provide basic help until paramedics show up.
As I’m sure you’d agree though, these are all just ideas and we’re not experts. We definitely do need some type of reform.
And for all the people that for some reason think Floyd deserved this or the officer isn’t guilty, think of all the other people that die in officer custody too. The number should not be that high. Whether it’s black people, white people, or any other types of people. No one should die when they have been restrained and arrested by law enforcement. They are officers, not judge jury and executioners.
"It’s really tough to figure out a clear guideline for something like this."
This has been established for generations. Cop is to always have an advantage. Fair fight? Fuck that. They are to ALWAYS level up. Meaning never fight barehanded. If perp has a gun, wait for back-up do not engage one on one.
National average, cops shooting on duty miss half the time at a distance of less than 6 feet. They are a public menace! Recent case, 24 shots fired, 6 hit. In an apartment building. Miracle no other bystanders were hit. (Case was a no knock raid on the wrong address)
I could only watch the video once, and I couldn't watch the whole time that sadist enjoyed murdering. The other 3 cops are guilty, they had the DUTY to knock that sadist off and make him stop. With lethal force if necessary. When you talk about reform training/ protocols etc., the big problem is NO cop reports abuse of power by a co-worker. In this case they actively assisted. Especially that winnie the poo in front of the camera. He was basically begging to be killed. My next thought was the civilians also had the duty to stop this obvious murder in progress, and citizen's arrest is legal as long as we're stopping a felony, which this obviously was. Then I realized maybe they didn't have the power to stop all 4 cops. Had I been there I would've been the difference maker and would've coordinated the stop. I might not have survived but George Floyd would have.
Another terrible injustice is anybody stopping this (lethal force completely justified) if they survived would be found guilty and have the book thrown at them. Either that or cops drop all charges and just disappear you for a few months; after you're released you're never "right" again. I've known people in that situation. While we know that not all 4 cops will be convicted of murder or accomplice to murder at least.
This has nothing to do with communism but "better dead than red" still almost fits. This kind of tyranny is too much to endure. AFAIK this incident is THE most justifiable public outrage by the black community since the Civil War.
What sort of firearms are those? Full auto?
I'd like to see a new division of labor: all other first responders are trained to DE-escalate. That usually works. Have first responders with a badge not armed with lethal force. If they feel they need lethal force, have them back off, stay safe, and wait for backup. By a new classification of "second responders" who do NOT fuck around. Not always a swat team, but restrict the lethal force to these motherfuckers.
I bet resistance and armed conflict goes WAY down. Overwhelming force is a very effective deterrent. Just not against suicide by cop.
No, they WOULDN'T. Without the violence and chaos, the left has no ammunition to attack Trump.
100% this. Trump has an opportunity to be pro-active here. Setup a task-force to investigate and recommend policies to stop these occurrences.
The national guard is not going to work effectively here.
What are the ROEs?
That's the only important question.
"We have activated more than 500 soldiers to St. Paul, Minneapolis and surrounding communities. Our mission is to protect life, preserve property and the right to peacefully demonstrate. A key objective is to ensure fire departments are able to respond to calls."
https://mobile.twitter.com/mnnationalguard/status/1266212998009536512
ROEs are "these are fellow Americans, don't shoot unless shot at."
Same ROEs Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama (and other western leaders) gave troops serving in the ME
Not good enough. The rioters can threaten them with clubs and other non-gun weapons. They need to be able to use deadly force to defend themselves against any threat to life or limb.
Would it not be better to merely confine them to their own neighborhoods and let them kill each other? Use their militarized vehicles to block off streets to keep them penned in as large an area as feasible?
And that's just fine. Unless these troopers are met with lethal force, they should be using non-lethal methods first.
Although with leftists constantly preaching violence, I'm not sure how long it will be until some idiot starts shooting.
I would bet on it .. rubber bullets, only to be used if fired upon by a protester who is less that 20 feet away and facing you. All other engagement will be legally actionable on NG members.
Too strict if it's "legally actionable." Desperate times, desperate measures.
I can also see LOTS of occasions where further than 20 feet is a better use for rubber bullets. But yes, generally not killing people is better.
Is there anything so valuable left in their neighborhood that we can't just let them destroy the rest of it? Just confine them to their warzone.
FN303s
"An Oreo?" - Ben Carson
CNN: National guard being deployed to enforce social distancing guildlines for peaceful Minnesota protestors
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If only this were some kind of emergency that was being suppressed by online tech giants and would warrant the use of the emergency text system.
You just reminded me of the test that happened on cell phones last year...and how the libs were triggered because they thought it was Trump being narcissistic...that was a fun day.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Can't help but notice that all those protests everyone was so pissed off didn't turn into burning cities, looting businesses, killing dogs, trapping people inside burning buildings, releasing zoo animals, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of those required the National Guard... right?
(Yes, I'm fully aware the answer is no.. none of them required the Guard)
B-b-b-b-b-b-but those armed white people in Lansing, Michigan, they didn't have tear gas thrown at them!!
What's so different from the "protesters" in Minneapolis??
Obviously it's skin color and nothing else.
They also started and ended too!
Yeah, I agree with you. This shit doesn't need to be about race and I refuse to take the left's bait and say it is. These are rioters exploiting a man's death to selfishly enrich themselves and steal what they want and physically assault those they disagree with. The fire fueling this isn't race or demanding justice or anything like that, it's selfishness.
You're speaking for THOUSANDS of others that you have never met and do not know. You are not elected to speak on their behalf.
If you want to express your opinion, you should express it as such, NOT putting your words into their mouths.
I'm not speaking for them, I'm speaking about what their actions heavily suggest and imply. I don't have to be elected by them to analyze their actions and behaviors and judge them accordingly.
I don't have to be democratically elected by a group of looters stealing flat screen TVs to venture a guess that there is some self desire for a flat screen TV (or money from selling it) motivating their choice of stealing the TV.
Judging an action is not putting words into someone's mouth and you should be careful to not confuse those two.
You would be MUCH more effective if you phrased it differently. I am very glad to hear it is not your intention to speak on their behalf. And thanks for the clarification!
I will opine that you don't know NEARLY enough to form any such opinion about thousands of people that you have never met and do not know. I will concede that some may be motivated as opportunists, especially since corn teen is not over in MN. That does NOT mean they don't care about injustice, which is what you're frothing at the mouth about all over.
Every race riot has followed this same pattern: black man beaten excessively or killed by cops, usually white. Cops not prosecuted, decision usually made by whites. Or if cops are tried, found not guilty.
So by extension your claim is (logically) that NO race riot in the US has EVER had any connection to protesting injustice whatsoever. This is using an extreme to illustrate the point. If you can still cling to this flawed logic, it tells me you have never personally lived through a race riot. In which case good for you, but you should seriously consider stfu.
You just don't know. And ALL the evidence is against you. It would be nice if we didn't have to have this experience to understand what's going on a little better.
Meanwhile, others are saying George Floyd isn't really dead. I'm going to treat that just like the claim that Jeffery Epstein isn't dead; I don't actually have the facts to know either way. In one sense it would be nice if Floyd is alive, and it would make the cops behavior much easier to tolerate. At the same time this scenario would be even more sinister.
I find it hard to believe that people choosing to loot and destroy the private property of their own local community and neighbors are doing so out of anger and frustration at injustice that has nothing to do with the items being stolen or the property being destroyed.
Humor me and answer this question, do you believe that everything some of history's most infamous dictators did was done in the name of bettering their nation's people? Do you believe Stalin's Holodomor (an orchestrated genocide of ethnic Ukrainian's that competes with the Holocaust) was done because he truly believed it would be best for the USSR or because the potential uprisings in Ukraine represented a threat to his regime and rule? Do you believe that shortly following the death of Kim Jong Il, that Kim Jong Un had fed his uncle to dogs because it would ultimately be best for the people of North Korea or because Un was attempting to protect his own seat of power? Was Mao's Hundred Flowers Campaign done out of a genuine hope that it would lead China to greater prosperity or was it done because he wanted to root out any communist dissidents and have them exterminated so that the leadership would not be threatened?
The point I'm trying to make is that it's not unreasonable to draw lines in the sand and call actions out as alternatively motivated when they clearly are - even if they masquerade under the guise of stemming from a seemingly "obvious" separate motivation. The examples each highlight a very clear action that stems from a selfish desire (in this case, wanting to remain in power) but the very initial domino that fell to lead to the action presented may have originated from something else (all of the above each believed their rule or government organization would cause a better world). But just because Stalin happened to believe communism was truly the "greater good" system doesn't mean his government orchestrated genocide did not stem from selfish desires. There are times where actions and context speak for itself - people robbing their neighbors for high end electronics falls under that umbrella.
I also don't think it's fair to say "by extension of your logic" because you're missing the entire point of what I've been trying to argue - that people examine these things on a very individualistic and unique way. I would not call the Rodney King riots the same as this because the elements composing it are different, there would be a lot in it that wouldn't be fair to completely compare. I never said zero race riots in the US have their origins in frustration at injustice, I wouldn't say that because I don't think it's true. What I've been trying to argue is that you need to judge actions individually and question why those actions are occurring. Call me crazy, but when people opt to steal and horde valuables I begin to wonder what level of greed is influencing that individual's actions.
But you are right I could probably word things better. I'm honestly pretty tired now so my brain is somewhat fogged and makes expressing my thoughts a little difficult, I apologize for that.
And, lastly, you also don't know me or my experiences. You don't know if I grew up in a segregated neighborhood, if I grew up in a posh midtown Manhattan condo, if I'm old, if I'm young, if I'm white, black, Asian, Hispanic, etc. So perhaps you should heed your own advice and consider "stfu" before prattling off about "you don't know".
"I find it hard to believe that people choosing to loot and destroy the private property of their own local community and neighbors are doing so out of anger and frustration at injustice that has nothing to do with the items being stolen or the property being destroyed."
Why? Because YOU DON'T KNOW. That's inexperience. You've never lived through it. You've never discussed it with people caught up in it. In a way, good for you. At the same time this is the argument from ignorance, a logical flaw telling you the error in your own thinking that should give you pause and force you to either draw different conclusions or reserve judgment. One good use for a talk forum such as this is to try to draw perspectives from others that you could never experience yourself, and try to expand your understanding of the world you live in. I'm probably not the best person to try to explain how this works to you since I'm white. If "cocaine is a helluva drug," anger and frustration that is generations old can make people act irrationally too. And make no mistake, I do consider the behavior irrational.
"Humor me and answer this question, do you believe that everything some of history's most infamous dictators did was done in the name of bettering their nation's people?"
That's your question to me. When you insert the "in the name of," it becomes much easier to answer yes to more instances because the implication becomes they may have said so even when they had different motives. Hitler's easy: yes he really believed his chosen course of action was in his people's best interest. We could discuss those details for a LONG time as there's a LOT of material there.
Stalin? Again I'd have to say yes, but he was clearly willing to sacrifice LOTS of "his own" people, whereas those Hitler had killed he did not consider to be "his own" people, even if they lived in Germany. The Holodomor is a huge head scratcher for me. Hitler killed more civilians just in Leningrad Moscow and Stalingrad than the whole "Holocaust" combined. Stalin is more foreign to me, and Mao and Pol Pot even moreso. If you know of atrocities they did that they did NOT think were in the best interest of their Nation, I'd be interested to hear that. You haven't given any such examples. Instead you state "each believed their rule or government organization would cause a better world." I agree with that, although I know little about far eastern dictators beyond Japan in WWII.
I don't think any of those extended metaphors are necessary to compare and contrast Minneapolis now to LA at the time of Rodney King. In both cases I think a bunch of people were clearly angry and frustrated at the establishment devaluing their lives based on the color of their skin, regardless of how much truth there was or wasn't to that notion at work in the violence preceding the riots. In both cases some looters may have gone to the riots solely to rob. Maybe some weren't even poor. Thieves gonna thieve. I think the opportunity and temptation now is more widespread due to more widespread poverty due to lockdown. Or maybe that's exactly backwards and everybody there is in better financial shape than 90's LA due to the economy before 3/16?
I think it's better to look at individuals than to treat large groups as if they were all the same. I don't think there's any sense in assuming that NO one at either of these riots cared about the clear and obvious injustice in beating the fuck out of Rodney King, or in the sadistic murder of George Loyd. I think anyone would have to be a psychopath to not care. And while this mob all acts like psychopaths, those that weren't thieves, vandals or arsonists before this are probably primarily motivated by outrage over the sheer injustice. Then they're tempted by the opportunity to rob. At what point does that push out the fury over injustice?
The criminal mind and mob mentality are dark corners of human existence. I've spent a while deliberately becoming more brutal because I think brutality is the only thing that will save this Nation and I do think we face existential threats that have existed for a very long time and will only be coming to a head soon. So I think we have to prepare for worse than this. I think we can win our essential struggle without resorting to crime or mob mentality. In fact, I think we need to carefully guard against it!
In a completely different direction, we can hope that many black people see this on their own and get repulsed by the left and decide to vote Trump as a consequence of all this. What I really hope for the most is that we can have a fair election this year, so that the results answer questions like this. If we do nothing and just vote like normal I think there's basically NO chance of that happening, ever again. We provided a free election in fucking Afghanistan of all places, we should be able to do that here. We'll need to take radical action to make that happen, just not nearly as radical as war.
Kinda tough at this point, it's full on CAT 5.
When I read that the Minneapolis Police 3rd Precinct was evacuated, I was stunned. The wall between the lawless thugs and citizens just collapsed itself because they were afraid of the consequences of defending themselves? I immediately thought back to Colonel Jessup of A Few Good Men:
"John, go on out there and get those boys down off the fence, they're packing their bags. Tom! Get me the President on the phone. We're surrendering our position in Cuba!....Wait a minute, Tom, don't get the President just yet. Maybe we should consider this for a second."
And the remaining tax payers will get to pay to repair or rebuild it.
Good thing those blue state reps and leaders realized how exceptionally necessary an employed labor force that can contribute to their local communities is.... Oh wait, lockdowns.
Salty bitch is salty.
There's nothing wrong with supporting those that help ensure order and attempt to keep everyone in society playing by the same rules set forward by that same society. I don't fully understand why acknowledging the importance of not having the rule enforcers immediately roll over because some people are upset gets your panties extra twisted, but you do you.
I'm willing to bet someone this guy has a bike lock on his person at all times, just in case he ever comes across a "bootlicker".
Anyway, to do what is apparently too difficult for you to do yourself (or it threatens to disprove your retarded theory so you naturally avoid it like the plague and stay in your mental safe space of assuming you're always right)...
Daniel Holtzclaw is currently serving a 263 year sentence for acts below homicide. Marcus Eberhard received a life sentence in Georgia after his use of force ultimately led to the individual's death. Joseph Miedzianowski of Chicago was given a life sentence for dealing drugs and weapons to gangs. To name a few. (Don't worry, I had to spend a whole several minutes looking that stuff up. I can see why the task seemed too difficult for you.)
ANYWAY.... If you wanna just go ahead and roll on over so I can keep barebacking ya, that'd be just great.
Spez: Don't forget to downvote this one too! Uh-oh! Someone disagrees with you, better furrow your brow and continue having a tantrum.
You cannot possibly pretend LEOs are subjected to the same justice system we are. The fact that a VERY rare few have been convicted does NOTHING to change this - and it's mostly a recent occurrence.
So, just to make sure I have your argument correct, I'm challenged to present cases where officers are held to the same standard. I do so (rather easily, by the way). And then you go "Well those are just exceptions" and continue to talk about your belief as though it were some axiomatic truth? Seriously? Talk about dismissive.
Apparently I know more about this than you do. That's not my fault.
Compare more than just a few rare cases. Compare cops missing what they shoot at on duty half the time at a distance of less than 6 feet.
You can't because there is no comparison to be made with civies. Yet another relevant stat is wrongful conviction of an innocent man.
You're saying COPS are above the law when the RIOTERS are the ones who are running wild and the cops can't legally defend themselves?
'Member when that other failure sent the national guard into Ferguson? Neither do I
They still had one grocery store at that point, not enough pressure.
The replies have me in tears. The TDS is not containable. The leftists making themselves look deranged and disconnected from reality only helps you all in November!
This is going to make liberals heads explode. He is restoring order where local authorities have not (likely for political reasons. Just see the staged CNN ‘arrest’). Yet, is doing so in a way that reinforces that a man may have died unjustifiable and we need to make sure that an appropriate and productive response is needed going forward.
Please explain the "restoring order" part? I have not seen order restored.
Well, the National Guard has been called in. I expect far less trouble tonight. But I could be wrong I guess.
Mayor and Governor ordered NG to stand down. Last night, I believe. I think POTUS can override, and it seems to me that NG would only do anything under POTUS' authority, Mayor and Governor sticking to principle that orange man bad.
I don't know what to make of this, pass the popcorn!
The argument can be made for just using the NG to contain them to neighborhoods that are already destroyed, and allow them to continue killing each other. Maybe defend businesses that aren't destroyed yet, if any exist.
Time to send in some Order to restore the Rule of Law.
Or do we just confine them to their war zone and let them kill each other? This is Somalia, after all. US policy has long been that as long as Muslims are killing Muslims, all is right with the world. Why fix it if it ain't broke?
And no more nation building. The Mayor and Governor want to scheme to make this as bad as possible? Fine. Let them figure out how to fix it. NO federal funds!
But what do Dorsey and Hawaii judge think?
Ah, I forgot. I don't give a flying fuck what those faggots think. Nevermind.
The Democrats are expressly trying to destroy America because they think it makes Trump look bad, change my mind.
Eugene Gu is the biggest loser in the world.
If you ever have a bad day, just remember at least you aren’t Eugene.
So the dem mayors can sit on their asses until Trump sends in the guard (otherwise Trump isn't doing anything!), then blames Trump for being racist against all those poor disenfranchised somalians (Trump's a racist!).
Is that about right?
Not quite. Mayor and governor order NG to stand down.
The NG better have live ammo. The Somalis and Antifa types who live there would love to attack a soldier.
If they have the balls (they don't) let them find out how fun it is to get their ass beat.
Somalis can be pretty ballsy. They're notorious for this since first discovered.
Yah I don't think live ammo will be necessary.
Antifa types would never have the guts to rush the NG so I bet they're hoping to convince some hood kids to do it.
That's not going to happen. Hood kids know the difference between mobbing a target for free stuff and charging an armed soldier.
More than that: the black community has no bone to pick with our National guard. It's the cops they want.
I hope Twitter censors this, it'll give us the element of surprise.
Antifa has been watching the National Guard anxiously this whole time
http://archive.vn/1jIf8
We should do.this for sure.
Fuck Twitter. Everyone with a Twitter account should just delete it.
The jogger hoes would twerk to it.
Well, shouldn't they be?
Yes
Yes, they easily could. Theyre CNN. It's fake news
TRUMP PRESS CONFERENCE IN 20 MINUTES @ 2:00 PM EST!!!!
SCHEDULED ON SHORT NOTICE
https://thedonald.win/p/Fg7j76pC/
If we were a serious country, all of these rioters would be dead by now.
F my states leadership. You @$$holes have allowed this to go on for a few reasons.
Both fo you and the Mayor of MPLS are cowards and disgust me. And now I am going to watch the MN NG get shot at (already have) and this is escalated because of your cowardice.
Disgusting POS have done NOTHING as I watch my home town burn to the ground.
NG has been shot at?
3rd precinct burned to the ground? They couldn't put the fire out before it burned itself out?
Guard were activated last night. They were never given clear orders. The states AG had to assume a proper course of action(s) appropriate. For now they surrounding the firefighters or have since this is a few hours old now.
Curfew is in effect. 8PM-0600 CST. The police station is toast. To badly damaged and most likely will tear it down and rebuild.
Thanks for these details. I guess the thing to do now is see if curfew is observed, or what. These seem like reasonable steps to me. I was told Mayor and Governor had ordered NG to "stand down." I guess that's not nearly so bad as NG arriving there but having to wait for their normal chain of command to figure out what to do. I mean that's pretty fucking bad when a military commander has to call a time out, lol. That could easily result in our forces taking fire and not having permission to act.
Hopefully this civilian action hasn't resulted in anything like that, and won't.
Is Omar leading the riots again?
i dont remember any president turning it around on the looters and the weak politicians this way..this is absolutely brilliant.
Wait, order has been restored?
Bravo six going dark.
With some old comrades.
"The Guns, Thank God, The Guns.."
Will the National Guard be "detaining" the mayor and police chief ?
Add the Governor to the list!
Deploy to other cities as well. Wherever antifa ( or whoever the instigators are) is organizing.
We are in a state of emergency.
These riots are acts of terrorism.
Deal with terrorists appropriately.
Will Twitter censor this as well
For people that are saying this is 100% a good thing. The fact is they shouldn't need the national guard. It wouldn't have been needed if the police forces in Minnesota didn't let things get out of control.
The police failed the community.
The Police failed the community when one of them decided to sadistically murder someone, and three other cops decided to be accessories to that murder.
I'm not saying anything about this is somehow good, but the public outrage over this from the black community is more justified than anything else I know about since the Civil War.
I think this is a deadman switch, a Soros funded false flag attack. It is possible that the cop with his knee on George's neck really is that fucked up, but did you see the look on his face as he murdered George?
SHOOT TO KILL
Black Hawk Down
So when do we get to the fun part where they start shooting these faggots in the face?
They'll fuckin do it again
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
God let's hope not
If they had a competent Mayor they would have been in place and ready to go Tuesday at the latest.
Do non citizens have the right to peacefully protest?
The cop who killed Floyd and the other cops who witnessed it need to be arrested too
They did more than "witness." They ASSISTED! There are FOUR guilty cops there.
I really, really hope Trump signs an executive order that classifies any act of rioting and/or looting as an act of terrorism.
The replies to his tweet are cancer.