Not having laws that put you to jail for defending your property would also be a nice touch. MN has the "duty to retreat" and they throw the book at you.
He said "OhH YeAh uR ReaLlY GoNnA StOp a HoMe InvAsiOn wItH YoUr GuN" and went on to try and argue that I'd be just a likely to be killed in the shootout, so therefore we're better off with gun control. And that it's just a stupid fantasy because the odds of experiencing a home invasion are so low.
Then I asked him if he were a criminal and deciding whether or not to commit a home invasion robbery against a random person, might his decision be influenced by how likely he is to encounter a gun on the other side of that door.
Yes, it's nice to have a gun to defend yourself if it comes to that. But people need to realize that they live in a safe society BECAUSE people have guns, not in spite of it.
Plus let's think of Agency. If a guy bursts through the door and is willing to shoot me to steal all i have....well I have a 0% chance. If it is a coin toss if I get him first 50% sure beats 0%. Plus i get to choose.
Rioting and looting aside, I and a number of people who I know with law enforcement training are all scratching our heads wondering whether they are putting remote control implants in cops or what. The first things that used to be taught were personal accountability and deescalation.
They are trained... used to be trained for situations like this. You may notice that the only time you see police in riot gear confronting crowds these days is when the crowds look easily intimidated.
Reacting to crimes of "wrongthink" (like not wearing a mask or social distancing) with excessive police response while essentially ignoring groups of people going violently berserk (antifa), conditions people toward violence. THAT is the game plan; divide and conquer.
The fact that cops did not stop tjos is a sign of piss poor leadership. Every precinct I America under Home land defence bought a shit ton of Military vehicles ect. For this type of shit. Liberal leaders are to blame.
Yeah, no, sorry, I don't do coincidences anymore. We may not be living in the matrix, but it's not far off, and although I'd like to just be left the bleep alone to enjoy the latter half of my life, I think we've entered the Dark Ages 2.0.
Not having reps like brother-fucker Omar and do-nothing Kobluchard and a wife-beating AG like Ellison who is a member of the nation of islam would also help.
This explains one of the big reasons why nearly all the burglaries and forced entries happen in the urban and suburban areas, but not in rural areas.
Yes, the countryside is isolated and sparse enough that you can do your criminal deeds with little chance of interruption... well, if everyone in the countryside wasn't armed to the teeth, and adept at using their weapons, that is. Oh, and it's way easier to hide a burglar's body out here too.
Yes, the city and suburban areas have more 'targets', but they also have (I daresay) on average, only about 40-50% of the households armed, and only because places like Texas bring that average up. In NYC, DC, or Chicago it's like 10% maybe (because stupid anti-gun laws, that's why). Out in the sticks, it's like 99.9% of us have and use firearms, most of them are pretty high-powered suckers*** , and unless you know for certain that the occupants aren't home, the risk/reward of burgling a rural household is definitely not in the burglar's favor.
*** no, seriously, snub-nosed .380 pea-shooters are worthless out here. The smallest sidearm I have is a .357 Mag. revolver. I keep it handy as coyote and cougar repellent.
The caliber really doesn’t matter bc statistically whoever gets the first shot off is almost always victorious. Source is from a guy who calls himself tactical professor. Dude sends out pretty awesome emails and this topic was one of them a while back.
Its not a gun for the country. The .380 is OK for short distance, over 30 yards you will have to have had a lot of practice to hit someone where you want to hit him
Yeh, but a .357 is not all that big....said no person, ever.
I live in the sticks now, and each night prior to jumping in bed, I go over what I will do if awakened unexpectedly late at night.
I may not survive a firefight, but before my demise any uninvited guests will have wished they came calling on some skinny-jeans-wearing-twitter-fag rather than me.
I live in a rural area. I've been robbed, my next door neighbor was robbed and a house across the street was robbed.
They wait for you to go to work in the morning. They drive up and knock on the door. If someone answers they ask for directions or try to sell you something. If nobody answers, they break in.
I have guns, my neighbor has guns. Does no good when you are not home.
Understood, greatly. I guess it depends on how rural we're talking about?
In my case, I work from home. My neighbor is retired. His neighbor is a rancher. We don;t get out much, but we're oodles of miles away from the nearest town of any size.
Owning A ar15... Have you insensitive assholes ever considered it might get lonely all by itself? A compassionate individual would never own less than two.
I also like my guns in pairs. 2 9mm, aks, ar15s, 1911s, 357s, 300blks, Augs, 338LMs, 12 ga....I have a few singles too, I mean I did before that boating accident
It can arguably do more damage to a person as well. A lighter, more elongated, but faster moving projectile tumbles easier, rather than over penetrate, and the resulting pressure cavity caused by the transference of force is bigger.
Sure the AK can maybe penetrate armor and walls better I guess, but I agree that the 5.56 is the superior round. Hitting is the most important thing. That and they are lighter so you can carry more.
Bump stocks are ammo wasting toys. Take aim and shoot semiauto, you will actually hit targets that way (Reference Rhodesia giving this exact order to the military when ammo supplies dwindled after being sold out by the West) Also, I have owned a few machineguns. 3 round burst is the way to go for the same result. "Spray and pray" is useless. AIM AIM AIM.
I agree, but if there was ever a scenario where a bump stock could be better than regular semi auto I think it would be when you’re surrounded by hundreds of rioters and need to disperse them.
it will break their insignificant piddly level of battlefield morale and shatter it into a million pieces instantly. after that its easy picking.
it just tickles the fuck out of me that these totally uninformed couch potatoes think they are ready for a war. they literally do not even have the first concept of what they are fucking with.
i cant wait to fight a civil war against a bunch of untrained, discombobulated, leaderless out of shape retards with their pants down around their ankles. should be a pretty straight forward fight!
Also, when your commie [insert here] says you don't need more than a few rounds, they obviously need some visual assistance. Introduce any firefight video/movie that shows cover fire
Why would I want an AR 15 (or 14, if you're hidin with biden) when, clearly, looking at that car on fire, somebody's already come to the party with a flame thrower. I want one of those.
Nobody would be looting if the store owners were armed and guarding their property
Not having laws that put you to jail for defending your property would also be a nice touch. MN has the "duty to retreat" and they throw the book at you.
Remarkable coincidence how 'stand your ground' Florida appears to have very little of this activity
Az. as well. 100 peaceful protesters at State Capitol.
Got into a debate about guns with a friend.
He said "OhH YeAh uR ReaLlY GoNnA StOp a HoMe InvAsiOn wItH YoUr GuN" and went on to try and argue that I'd be just a likely to be killed in the shootout, so therefore we're better off with gun control. And that it's just a stupid fantasy because the odds of experiencing a home invasion are so low.
Then I asked him if he were a criminal and deciding whether or not to commit a home invasion robbery against a random person, might his decision be influenced by how likely he is to encounter a gun on the other side of that door.
Yes, it's nice to have a gun to defend yourself if it comes to that. But people need to realize that they live in a safe society BECAUSE people have guns, not in spite of it.
100% of home invasions occur in the home.
I like you.
That's too much maths. Maths are racist and discriminatory.
Plus let's think of Agency. If a guy bursts through the door and is willing to shoot me to steal all i have....well I have a 0% chance. If it is a coin toss if I get him first 50% sure beats 0%. Plus i get to choose.
Firearms is the great equalizer and one of the few things criminals will respect.
....whether those criminals are foreign or domestic, and whether they are individuals or institutions.
Isn't it just perfect woke ethics to praise the looters and vilify the police?
The world is upside down all of a sudden
Rioting and looting aside, I and a number of people who I know with law enforcement training are all scratching our heads wondering whether they are putting remote control implants in cops or what. The first things that used to be taught were personal accountability and deescalation.
But how often do police have to face a crowd this large, that is as violent and prepared to destroy?
The scene at that Target store, inside and outside, looks like a very dangerous situation for the police
They are trained... used to be trained for situations like this. You may notice that the only time you see police in riot gear confronting crowds these days is when the crowds look easily intimidated.
Reacting to crimes of "wrongthink" (like not wearing a mask or social distancing) with excessive police response while essentially ignoring groups of people going violently berserk (antifa), conditions people toward violence. THAT is the game plan; divide and conquer.
The fact that cops did not stop tjos is a sign of piss poor leadership. Every precinct I America under Home land defence bought a shit ton of Military vehicles ect. For this type of shit. Liberal leaders are to blame.
The coincidence (?) that they used to work at the same club is also weird.
Yeah, no, sorry, I don't do coincidences anymore. We may not be living in the matrix, but it's not far off, and although I'd like to just be left the bleep alone to enjoy the latter half of my life, I think we've entered the Dark Ages 2.0.
When again were the light ages?
The Five Good Emperors.
Not having reps like brother-fucker Omar and do-nothing Kobluchard and a wife-beating AG like Ellison who is a member of the nation of islam would also help.
If only they would also throw the book at the thousands of looters and rioters.
They're a protected class :|
It feels so weird writing that and realizing that I can't add a /s - what a clown world.
MogadishuMinneapolis has a severe shortage of Roof Koreans. Lord knows they wouldn’t abide this kind of shitThis explains one of the big reasons why nearly all the burglaries and forced entries happen in the urban and suburban areas, but not in rural areas.
Yes, the countryside is isolated and sparse enough that you can do your criminal deeds with little chance of interruption... well, if everyone in the countryside wasn't armed to the teeth, and adept at using their weapons, that is. Oh, and it's way easier to hide a burglar's body out here too.
Yes, the city and suburban areas have more 'targets', but they also have (I daresay) on average, only about 40-50% of the households armed, and only because places like Texas bring that average up. In NYC, DC, or Chicago it's like 10% maybe (because stupid anti-gun laws, that's why). Out in the sticks, it's like 99.9% of us have and use firearms, most of them are pretty high-powered suckers*** , and unless you know for certain that the occupants aren't home, the risk/reward of burgling a rural household is definitely not in the burglar's favor.
*** no, seriously, snub-nosed .380 pea-shooters are worthless out here. The smallest sidearm I have is a .357 Mag. revolver. I keep it handy as coyote and cougar repellent.
I like my .380. It's very concealable
The caliber really doesn’t matter bc statistically whoever gets the first shot off is almost always victorious. Source is from a guy who calls himself tactical professor. Dude sends out pretty awesome emails and this topic was one of them a while back.
Indeed. Better than 99% of self defense scenarios will happen at close range
Would that be John Correia of Active Self Protection? I highly recommend his content if you don’t already watch him.
Different dude. But I much enjoy active self protection also.
And Attorneys for Freedom, great channel.
This is true. The first person to get shot tends to keep getting shot, which really hampers their ability to shoot back.
Its not a gun for the country. The .380 is OK for short distance, over 30 yards you will have to have had a lot of practice to hit someone where you want to hit him
This is true for any firearm of any caliber.
.357 Master race checking in. 340pd on board currently.
.45 because America
Dan Wesson Model 15 here - Cheers!
(it's currently wearing the 6" barrel - the other barrels generally stay in the box.)
Noice.
I love my nasty slick little 340. Don't own a nice heavy shooter in .357 yet. It's on the list.
Yeh, but a .357 is not all that big....said no person, ever.
I live in the sticks now, and each night prior to jumping in bed, I go over what I will do if awakened unexpectedly late at night.
I may not survive a firefight, but before my demise any uninvited guests will have wished they came calling on some skinny-jeans-wearing-twitter-fag rather than me.
I live in a rural area. I've been robbed, my next door neighbor was robbed and a house across the street was robbed.
They wait for you to go to work in the morning. They drive up and knock on the door. If someone answers they ask for directions or try to sell you something. If nobody answers, they break in.
I have guns, my neighbor has guns. Does no good when you are not home.
Understood, greatly. I guess it depends on how rural we're talking about?
In my case, I work from home. My neighbor is retired. His neighbor is a rancher. We don;t get out much, but we're oodles of miles away from the nearest town of any size.
My uncles home was robbed like three times before he got a safe.
They arrested the poor schmuck who did.
If they had even hired a couple of off duty troopers, would this have happened?
They burned the toilet paper? THEY BURNED THE TOILET PAPER! SAVAGES!
Significant nitpick:
It's NOT the Bill of Needs.
NOT THE TOILET PAPER
But in all seriousness, this is a reason why the 2nd Amendment exists.
Owning A ar15... Have you insensitive assholes ever considered it might get lonely all by itself? A compassionate individual would never own less than two.
I also like my guns in pairs. 2 9mm, aks, ar15s, 1911s, 357s, 300blks, Augs, 338LMs, 12 ga....I have a few singles too, I mean I did before that boating accident
So my emotional-support Glock needs... an emotional-support M&P!
I have thought of that and I am building a long barrel grendel companion. 😉
This is true, you need an AR pistol, a carbine, and a rifle
Ar-14, Corn pop.
5.56 is just as good against unarmored targets under 300 yards and way easier to keep on target if firing rapidly. In my opinion!
Poor blacks guns are just as effective as white guns!
It can arguably do more damage to a person as well. A lighter, more elongated, but faster moving projectile tumbles easier, rather than over penetrate, and the resulting pressure cavity caused by the transference of force is bigger.
Sure the AK can maybe penetrate armor and walls better I guess, but I agree that the 5.56 is the superior round. Hitting is the most important thing. That and they are lighter so you can carry more.
Nah man I'll just keep a 300aac MCX Rattler in my backpack - effective, flexible, AND gucci as fuck!
Damn, sick burn.
> "It's a civil rights protest!"
> ANTIFA present in every picture
(nice capris, btw)
Nobody needs to own an AR-15. Too low of caliber.
My friend, can I introduce you the church of 300 Blackout? haha
Just got a .300 chambered rifle today. Only have range ammo now, waiting on this:
https://www.lehighdefense.com/300-aac-blackout-whisper-194gr-subsonic-maximum-expansion-ammunition
I wanna build but I wanna suppress and most rec 8" minimum... except the mcx. oof
XM 193 does fine. XM 855 (the so called green tip) isn't as good, maybe a little better barrier penetration.
Yeah, I want an M249 for anti-riot munitions.
But the ladies don't like to shoot the 556.
A .22 LR can deal with aggressive vermin like these.
Can I wouldn't trust a 22 to kill a squirrel. It's inhumane.
Repeal and replace, "Duty to retreat," with: Choice to Protect.
and high capacity mags
Do you mean the standard 30 round mags or actual high cap drum mags of 60+
yeah 30 right now in cali only 10 allowed
To help your cause always refer to 30 rounds as standard, dont let them redine the standards on you.
That being said, Im currently babysitting dozens of standard mags for my brother who is stationed in CA right now.
Keep up the fight for your rights and good luck!
I don’t “need” an AR-15. I already own an AR10.
For this situation I think I would rather have an M249 or an M60. Back in the olden days there used to be a thing called “bump stocks”.
Bump stocks are hard to operate efficiently. Even Jerry Miculek had a hard time. Just knowing effective shooting technique is enough in most cases.
Bump stocks are ammo wasting toys. Take aim and shoot semiauto, you will actually hit targets that way (Reference Rhodesia giving this exact order to the military when ammo supplies dwindled after being sold out by the West) Also, I have owned a few machineguns. 3 round burst is the way to go for the same result. "Spray and pray" is useless. AIM AIM AIM.
I agree, but if there was ever a scenario where a bump stock could be better than regular semi auto I think it would be when you’re surrounded by hundreds of rioters and need to disperse them.
Agreed. Now if only we could actually buy them...
AR 15 would efficiently go through a few of those creatures.
This is why I also prep. I'm not into long term stuff. But events like this happen all the time. Better to be ready etc.
LEARN TO HANDLE A FIREARM. LEARN HOW TO SAFELY OPERATE AND STORE FIREARMS. GET A FIREARM.
The time is fastly approaching when American citizens will have to defend their freedoms in person and not behind keyboards.
DO NOT BE UNPREPARED.
Is that toilet paper in the burning car? That stuff is still a rare commodity. Savages
Exactly this is one of the reasons I just purchased more rounds for MY AR15. Apparently, ammo prices are not getting any lower this year.
I was in LA for the Korea rooftop dudes they were the only sane ones. They spewed that "we're coming to the suburbs" shit out there too. what a joke.
Wannabe commies: "Nobody needs an AR15."
Real commies: "Nobody needs an AR15 when they have an AK47."
it will break their insignificant piddly level of battlefield morale and shatter it into a million pieces instantly. after that its easy picking.
it just tickles the fuck out of me that these totally uninformed couch potatoes think they are ready for a war. they literally do not even have the first concept of what they are fucking with.
What have that Kenya citizen Hussein done to his “own” community???!!!
AR-15 AR-20... whatever it takes.
Killing the first guy through the door makes for an excellent warning shot. Anyone that doesn't understand the warning is welcome to attempt advancing
i cant wait to fight a civil war against a bunch of untrained, discombobulated, leaderless out of shape retards with their pants down around their ankles. should be a pretty straight forward fight!
An M1A also works.
Yea but they guy that used his weapon of war got arrested. It’s not worth it.
S/off
You don't need an AR15, you need at least one for every member of your household.
Also, when your commie [insert here] says you don't need more than a few rounds, they obviously need some visual assistance. Introduce any firefight video/movie that shows cover fire
3d printers exist for this very reason
Why would I want an AR 15 (or 14, if you're hidin with biden) when, clearly, looking at that car on fire, somebody's already come to the party with a flame thrower. I want one of those.
Uh, that tough Antifa soldier better not need to run with his pants down around his knees! LOL! He gonna fall on his face!
That is why you need 12 ar15's
I prefer an AK...
Some people just don’t get it until it’s literally spelled out for them and too late.
No, this is why you need a turret mounted Ma-Deuce with an extended belt and a good set of earmuffs.