There's a difference between being arrested by the book and being arrested by a cow boy. Or are you saying that the police procedures are a joke?
That's like saying, "the haunted house caused the man to have a heart attack."
Well, if you have issues and go the haunted house, it's on you. It's a different thing when cow boy "Catawampus'" comes at you instead of doing his job.
This happened with Tony Timpa in dallas too. Weak heart due to long term cocaine abuse. He overdosed on cocaine in public, goes crazy running into traffic, so the cops try to restrain him. Guy is resisting as hard as he can, then eventually his heart gives out
Cops didn't do a great job, but even with a perfect cop the guy would likely still die.
I'm saying, he was arrested, held down, ambulance was called, ambulance showed up and took him away, and he died of a heart attack.
This is such a flowery, reductionist description.
A multiple time felon should have known
A cop should also have known to follow procedure. Procedure exists for a reason. The "multiple time felon" paid his mistake with his life. The cop will also need to pay for his mistake.
You seem to have an agenda. I can't believe you can't understand the difference between getting arrested as the police procedure mandates and a cow boy "arrest".
One of the big things I've heard a lot from self-proclaimed ex and current cops, is that consistent pressure to the neck is no longer taught -- you put pressure on the shoulder or head, and if it's actually necessary to restrain the suspect, you might move to the neck temporarily, but you're really not supposed to. Typically you don't intentionally aim for the neck.
TBH this looks like the ex-officer wasn't completely aware of where his knee was, and what it was doing -- maybe that was improper training, heat of the moment, or the crowd yelling at him, who knows. I would maybe say manslaughter, almost certainly not murder -- it also seems the DA is trying to pull a secret double jeopardy by charging the ex-officer with both manslaughter and murder.
His job is to go catawumpus on your resistant drug addled brain retard, enormous black men are often a physical threat to multiple officers. You have a lot to learn about cities work.
You're the one acting on feelings sage, you see a poor Black man under pain compliance and the feels the MSM tells you to have just come pouring out. Unfuck yourself from this site commie fag
That is a great point but it also does away with the whole idea of "it was a racially motivated killing lets burn down our neighborhood and teach whitey a lesson".
“The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.”
Translation: The knee didn't do him in, but the knee certainly pushed him off the cliff.
Cause he was on drugs and used fake currency. Then Mahmoud called the cops on him.
Cop didn't assess the situation properly, there are other remedies to an arrest based on Minnesota statutes for counterfeiting. He was in no danger from this suspect. In an alternate universe George Floyd would have just been summoned, gone to court for his crime and be sentenced.
Let me ask you something. You hear a shattering of glass in your home. You go into the room guns blazing. You hit the trespasser. It was a kid who was getting his ball he accidentally kicked through your window.
How much time will you serve? Cause there is not a single fucking attorney on the planet who could get you off manslaughter charges EVEN WITH castle doctrine and stand your ground.
Cause you didn't assess the situation. You were in no danger.
Thumbs up buddy. The left think we are all a bunch of extremist nut jobs but your comment is proof that we are sober, logical, intelligent, and believe in the rule of law and justice. Floyd did nothing worthy of being killed for and that's just a fact. Chauvin may not have wanted to kill him but he did and I think you are right, he grossly assessed the situation incorrectly. I have no idea what makes a decent man kneel on the neck of someone cooperative, prone, and submitting. I don't even care if Floyd told Chauvin that he was going to kill him. Third degree murder at least.
Agreed. A good LEO knows when it’s go time, and when it’s time to shut it off and deescalate. It’s not an easy thing, but it unfortunately is a job where you have to be able to go from an unexpected adrenaline dump back to basically being a social worker and/or EMS worker on the person who may have been trying to kill you a few seconds ago.
Because we hate government overreach, but we also hate lawlessness. We like cops because they maintain the peace, except for when they abuse the power we entrust them with against citizens.
Remember the past 3 months we have seen constitutional violation after constitutional violation. Before that we saw several Red Flag executions ordered by the state.
Are you trying to argue that a man on the ground handcuffed, I have to repeat that for effect. Needs additional restraining? With 2 other officers controlling his HANDS and his LEGS.
What direct danger is there buddy? Handcuffed with 2 officers on him. Why the knee? Why nod the knee between the SHOULDER blades? Why on the neck?
Let me literally quote the report for you:
"Officer Keung checked his pulse but could not find it"
So this is around half way through the entire video roughly. They keep restraining a dude with NO PULSE!!! Please explain to me how someone in CARDIAC ARREST is going to be a danger?
You know what also makes your heart give out? Respiratory distress.
The pressure on the neck can obstruct the airway sufficiently to cause loss of consciousness and create enough pressure to prevent proper respiration whilst allowing for exhaling. The muscles for inhaling are way weaker than for exhaling.
Why was he on the fucking NECK and not the SHOULDER? Just ask yourself this fucking question why did the cop IGNORE the training that says it should be done for at most 60 seconds to produce compliance.
Compliance from a suspect on the ground! Handcuffed. WHAT COMPLIANCE IS BEING SOUGHT? He fell to the ground and was then ADDITIONALLY restrained by THREE officers.
What danger is there to holding him on the ground controlling his hands and legs.
The guy with his knee on the neck is the issue!!! That's why we are having this discussion. Because there ARE two guys on his hands and legs AND this dude on his NECK with his KNEE in violation of all police instruction and common sense.
The prior doesn't matter. He didn't steal he committed FORGERY. I don't care if he was a triple homicide felon who served his time. If he did his time it's DONE!
I kinda feel like you are intentionally being obtuse here. Saying he died an hour later in an ambulance? That means they worked on him, CPR and shock for that hour before declaring his death. He had no pulse BEFORE the paramedics assessed him, which means he was nearly dead already (he would've had to had some cardiac activity or else they wouldn't have tried to revive him for an hour- defibrillation only works with some rhythm left).
The cop was being warned by onlookers that he was going to kill the man and the asshole didn't care. This highlights a police brutality problem (not a racism problem). The free thought project is a website that catalogs officer killings. I've seen so many horrible cases there (of course no rioting in most cases).
We have to address the militarization of police and how they treat every citizen like POS criminals. They've changed the rules of engagement and they can pretty much shoot whenever they feel afraid. Female cops are the worst offenders there because they feel "threatened" way too easily due to weaker physical strength and height.
Despite his criminal record, when he was on his stomach in cuffs surrounded by 4 cops was he a threat? Could that knee have been placed elsewhere or not at all? You seem to want to blame Floyd but nothing reasonable allows you to do that.
You seem to not appreciate the concept that while Floyd contributed somewhat to his situation by his actions, he would not have died BUT FOR the knee to the neck, which was against police procedure and by all account not necessary. There are other effective ways to restrain a suspect, and if fact he was already effectively restrained. The officer acted with recklessness and should be punished for it.
We live in a society that demands compassion, even to criminals. What Floyd did does not deserve a death sentence.
What was the situation with George Floyd? In the video they talk about trying to get him into the car for 10 minutes and so supposedly he was violently resisting and had to be restrained.
How would he have been a danger? He was prone on the ground, handcuffed with 2 other cops on him? Oh boy if that THIRD cop wasn't on his neck we'd be reading about a quadruple cop killing for sure!!!
Get out of here with this bullshit! This guy had no weapons on him, was cuffed and restrained. There is NO reason for additional force.
Passive resistance. They stopped him in the car. Put him against the wall. Cuffed him. Then he wasn't cooperating with being moved to the van and being put in so they tugged the cuffs and he fell down before being put into the van.
No active resistance took place. None is described in the report.
The resistance displayed didn't warrant the amount of force and I would say that after the force was applied for a minute he became compliant to anything to make him get off him. But it kept going.
Imagine if he had JUST gotten off his neck. What would the story have been? Dude has heart attack due to panic induced by arrest. The thugs rioting now would still be rioting but we wouldn't be sitting here discussing when the state can kill a citizen!
Which should be in exactly 2 cases. When they are a threat to other citizens or to the officer.
Could be anything. He was 40 and I don't know if you've gotten there yet but you start to approach cliffs at that point in your life especially if your diet it shit, you do drugs, etc. It's not against the law to put your body right on the cliff's edge. It seems like you might be trying to put some blame on Floyd but that would be unfair. If on the other hand you are simply implying that some underlying health concern might have come into play that would be fair. It's still involuntary manslaughter and it makes no sense why Chauvin was kneeling on his neck. There was no reason to do that especially with three other cops right on the guy.
Fuck yourself faggot, you know literally nothing of police procedures and maneuvers let alone the order of operations in a common traffic stop. Cops restrain with pain compliance when you are a threat to them, not the other way around. Kys.
I’d say being a criminal and breaking the law again did that, but that officer is an asshole who I don’t believe wanted to kill him, but played a stupid game and now will win a stupid prize.
Did he break the law? Forgery charges are about intent. If he got the fake $20 from another place he is not the one committing the crime of forgery. This is why it's important to take the suspect in ALIVE. So you can actually do the investigation.
I agree 100%, but you are telling the wrong person that. Preach that to the demographic who is infamous for always “feeling” disrespected while also resisting arrest making otherwise benign situations much much worse for themselves and others. This is another obvious example of when assholes collide. Both played stupid games and both won stupid prizes.
I’m not saying this is the case for the Gregory Floyd situation, but it is well documented by countless previous examples/incidents that a significant amount of suspects don’t want to be, or don’t care if they are taken in alive. They will do anything to avoid going back to prison at all costs especially if, just like GF, they have a past criminal record and/or are a convicted felon. They rather put their lives and other lives at risk while resisting in order to play and hopefully win the ghetto lottery. I know many don’t like this reality, and are scared to talk about it, but it’s the truth and cannot be ignored any longer, unless of course, people want cities to continue burning.
And when they resist arrest and pull a gun or start punching a cop or go for the officer's gun it's done. Arbery got shot, big sad, but he made the wrong choices. This case is different. This case is the same as Tony Timba. Officers arrive. Officers use excessive force. Citizen dies.
But cops have been getting worse and worse. Red flag shootings. SWAT raids where people are gunned down. No knock raids where people are killed.
Maybe it's the lockdown that's playing a huge role in this. But all I saw was 4 cops not doing their job right and a suspect that was no threat being restrained past the reasonable level of force that situation required.
Man, you sound just like me. You won’t dare see me defend LEOs like many here do, but I don’t wish nothing bad on them or anyone else for that matter. As far as I’m concerned, they don’t exist and I don’t need them. I am well protected, and I’m not a criminal. I never invite the man into my life unless I absolutely have to for insurance purposes. I’m white, and my very first interaction with LEOs at 18 was a complete bullshit stop I got lost and was in the “wrong” neighborhood. I was mildly man handled and verbally abused because their fishing expedition didn’t pan out. It was hilarious. They also didn’t like the fact that I knew my rights, and how the game is played while also being respectful.
No but you can question negligence in putting someone in a vulnerable position face down in handcuffs and then kneeling on their neck for 8 minutes. You don't do this because if there are underlying medical conditions you can kill someone. Involuntary manslaughter seems a very real possibility. What the media are trying to do is convict all white people and especially cops of racist and murderous intent which is far from the truth.
Have an upvote for being one of the few who rightfully blame my generation (GenX) for a lot of the fuckery today. That rarely gets said. We are the ones who raised a generation of ADHD trannies and thought it was OK because it would be just the sort of thing to piss off our Boomer parents. Let's take GenX to task for once. I don't know why my generation has always been given a pass.
Having said that, GenX was never woke and fucked in the head like Millenials. We were sort of latch key kids that fucked off and did our own thing. No way do we carry the brunt but it's so interesting to me that Millenials and Boomers go at each other so hard. I think about it a lot like having a circle of friends back in the day. There were always people in the group that most of us didn't like and those people always hated each other with a passion.
These things always confuse me, so is it boomer -> gen x -> millennials?
I agree with what you've said, gen x is the reason why so many millennials are fucked up. I'm a millennial and my alcoholic father is the reason I suffer from so many mental health issues. It really screws you up living with an alcoholic or drug addict, and the problem is that gen x doesn't understand this. They don't believe in mental health issues like depression, anxiety, etc. and think it's all made up and that you're just sensitive. They just don't want to understand that their bad parenting is the reason why their kids are so screwed up. Then they wonder why the kid had a mental breakdown and became a radical leftist. Oh I don't know... maybe because you were too busy getting plastered and not actually parenting them?
What he fails to understand is that this is and always has been the people's America and the people wanted Trump. When they point to contrived narratives, what they are really saying is that 'this should be my favored candidates America' which is how we know these people get paid to be retards. It is our America and retards like this CNN reporter should consider finding someplace else to live. Maybe Africa? I'm sure he would be so welcome there and never get arrested lol.
I don't know man, that's pretty fucked up. I know some Dems that I have great respect for though not necessarily that many. I can think of one in particular who is about 65. He and I have worked together for about 13 years and always disagreed about a lot of stuff politically but we've had civil and rational conversations and we both lament that this isn't the norm these days. He and I can come to agree on a lot of stuff too if we are honest with each other. He is, if nothing else, honest. He loves America and is an upstanding member of society. He just retired and I still plan to hang out with him when I can. Thinking that someone should be dead for having a different label than you is pretty fucked up. In fact, as conservative as I am these days, I still hate the GOP. They are not on my team. They don't give a fuck about you and I.
Nice comic relief bud. I remember a murder of crows that used to eat bread crumbs off my porch until supremacist mammals (squirrels and raccoons mostly) figured out they could get some free food and the crows could only watch and screech and starve. I recollect that this happened summer of 2017 so Trump fucked our dinosaur pals.
Reminds me of the guy in Baltimore--Freddy Gray--who coined the "I can't breathe" -- and had a history of faking injuries. Outsmarted himself in the police van by flinging himself against the door. And died. Followed by riots..
LOL.....putting your knee and body weight on the back of another human beings neck for 8 minutes.........dude even UFC doesn't allow that shit! I don't think anyone is a saint here.....If Chauvin contributed to a heart attack or death that seems to be the definition of manslaughter. This no way excuses George Floyd's behavior......as Dan Bongino stated you bring them to the ground and cuff them and the fight is over...........this video was not that. This was a video of officers putting all their weight on him while he was already cuffed or made no effort to put cuffs on George Floyd.........that is fucking sick.
Amen. Let's imprison Chauvin for involuntary manslaughter and justice will be served. That's not going to stop rioters from claiming racism and burning their own neighborhoods to the ground but none of this is about fixing stupid.
Nah that was no dedication. They could have literally gotten off this dude any second but they chose not to. If he was SOOO far gone that he would have died regardless of the restraining knee then there was 0 chance he'd have been able to resist arrest.
Just think about it. Instead of just backing down they used the protection of the state to apply force in a situation that required tact.
Yeah, like they're overcompensating--I'm only HALF this race, so I gotta double down. Although, given your user name, you might appreciate this: Johnny Winter often spoke about the way he and Edgar were double/triple outcasts in Texas who didn't fit in with whites, hispanics or blacks--but were tolerated by everybody. And of course once they heard his chops, things changed.
Maybe people are willing to give their lives so the far left can push socialism onto America.
That is a pretty big line to cross and something that probably happens more than we think. Something I've always played around in my head but always sounded so alien to me.
To a Muslim its second nature. Is this what ISIS and other Islamic groups doing to help the far left in the west? Train people to give their lives tot he socialist cause?
I find I can enjoy Eric as long as the time period involved is less that 15 seconds and doesn't involve a full sentence. Hannibal Buress is excellent in this meme and always less tedious and often more amusing than Eric if words are involved. I occasionally wonder if Eric is aware that he's responsible for the most concise meme format in recent memory for illustrating the duplicity of the progressive movement. I hope he's OK with that, but I'm OK if he isn't. I could go on, but there's nothing on fire where I live or people screaming in the streets so it's probably a good time to wash the car. Don't feel like cutting the grass...screw that.
What a cool comment. You know, they have tracked down a lot of meme people---including the jealous girlfriend, Brian, the closing his eyes blond guy, even the Erma Gerd Goosebermps girl..I'm sure there are more...
With the autopsy news, seems less so but he certainly has a history of "incidents." And no, Zimmerman wasn't guilty...but the MSM turned him into a white guy--they were so disappointed he didn't fit the narrative.
The black dude that was put on quarantine and sent to a nursing home on purpose where the most high risk are located? Then proceed to be unattended and made like 8 different videos beating up white elderly? Yeah I don't remember the riots on that either. I think maybe that he was just one of many people like that sent to nursing homes and her was the only one dumb enough to record it. There's a reason why so many people in nursing homes died under Democrat supervision.
Right? Lazy and embarrassing. OP: take a minute to review what you’ve written before sharing it online next time. Jesus Christ. Makes us look dense AF.
That cop is no better than the criminal he murdered.
But the terrorists' actions of burning down the police station and thereby destroying all evidence probably means that he'll pretty much get away with the crime, along with all the other criminals who committed crimes proven only by evidence which had been housed in that police station will get off unjustly.
Cop is a pos, no question. I was wondering if the motive he had for putting his knee on the guy's neck was more complicated than police brutality. Maybe the dirty cop was an enforcer, and the guy owed a debt, or something? They did work at a nightclub, so it could maybe be drug related, which is weird because it was filmed by the other cops. Probably wasn't that. I'm just spitballing here, It's just weird that they worked at the same place, which means they probably knew each other before this happened, which definitely adds another layer to the story. I would actually rather the cop have been crooked and working for a gang, or something, because that makes more sense than just randomly hurting people for kicks. Again, I'm just speculating, so don't quote me on any of this.
This is going to be a battle of medical examiners. Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if Justice eventually pursues a case for deprivation of rights under color of law, which has the death penalty attached. If the State finds an ME through federal Justice or through Floyd's family private pathologist, and if homicide finds a more conclusive scientific basis -- Chauvin will be in trouble. However, at this juncture, this is a major point in favor of defense counsel for Chauvin.
Imma be real here. If they'd just sacked that police station, dragged the dirty cop out into the street, and hung him from a lamppost for murdering those he swore to protect, I wouldn't have lost a wink of sleep. Tree of liberty is thirsty.
When was the last time it wasn’t in a Democrat run jurisdiction? I’m sure it happens all the time and I don’t pay attention, I just sent to remember the other time resulting in Baltimore burning or something.
OP is a dirty commie, what evidence do you fucking have that those cops were "dirty" other than what you allowed the MSM to convince you of? Fuck yourself.
Read this whole thread and want to say thedonald.win posters have far more common sense and ability to clearly assess such situations (avoiding hysteria) compared to anyone else on the internet.
I don't know if dirty is the word I'd use. The guy seemed like he was burned out and should have quit the force a decade ago. Just so jaded that he didn't care anymore. Not that that is better, but that whole thing has that "banality of evil" feel to it.
I agree with court of law...........as for the rest
LOL.....putting your knee and body weight on the back of another human beings neck for 8 minutes.........dude even UFC doesn't allow that shit! I don't think anyone is a saint here.....If Chauvin contributed to a heart attack or death that seems to be the definition of manslaughter. This no way excuses George Floyd's behavior......as Dan Bongino stated you bring them to the ground and cuff them and the fight is over...........this video was not that. This was a video of officers putting all their weight on him while he was already cuffed or made no effort to put cuffs on George Floyd.........that is fucking sick.
This isn't a 30 second clip. Dude knelt on the guys carotid for fucking 9 minutes straight. This officer straight up murdered this dude on camera. I've never seen a more convincing snuff film.
Sometimes there's some context or extraneous circumstance that excuses something like this, but not in this case.
Don't make excuses for this fucking asshole. Yeah yeah, fair trial and all, but seriously, fuck this piece of shit. This is what gives people fuel to hate police officers and furthers the racist dog whistling of the left.
I've come all the way around from the other side on this. I grew up hating and distrusting police, eventually realizing it's a job, a tough job, one that I wouldn't want to do, and that the people who do it deserve respect.
This shit brings my piss to a boil like no other because I can see a younger version of myself being convinced that police are murdering, militarized assholes. This is the kind of shit that makes people hate police.
Hello, brand new shill. "Trump has been messing up a lot lately" -- having nothing whatsoever to do with this meme. Sorry you couldn't stay longer, but I deported you.
If you are seriously considering not voting for Trump this year, then you don't belong here. You don't get to come in here and say shitty things about him but yuo love him. You are a troll/shill. The rules are simple. "Different person" what vague bullshit.
He threatened no violence. YOu were too stupid to understand what he said and like a true cuck jumped on the exact wrong interpretation OMG HE'S GOING TO SHOOT PROTESTORS. GTFO
It's a joke.
Whew, I was worried there for a minute!
There are 3 guarantees in life: Death, Taxes, and [this] is somehow Trump's fault.
Yep and Epstine killed himself /s
Kys
KMA
You kinda left out the
part.
There's a difference between being arrested by the book and being arrested by a cow boy. Or are you saying that the police procedures are a joke?
Well, if you have issues and go the haunted house, it's on you. It's a different thing when cow boy "Catawampus'" comes at you instead of doing his job.
This happened with Tony Timpa in dallas too. Weak heart due to long term cocaine abuse. He overdosed on cocaine in public, goes crazy running into traffic, so the cops try to restrain him. Guy is resisting as hard as he can, then eventually his heart gives out
Cops didn't do a great job, but even with a perfect cop the guy would likely still die.
I would ask are the cops supposed to babysit everyone with a preexisting condition? It's impractical and dangerous to think they can or should.
He wasnt that healthy. He seemed a little weezy to me.
This is such a flowery, reductionist description.
A cop should also have known to follow procedure. Procedure exists for a reason. The "multiple time felon" paid his mistake with his life. The cop will also need to pay for his mistake.
You seem to have an agenda. I can't believe you can't understand the difference between getting arrested as the police procedure mandates and a cow boy "arrest".
They did follow procedure faggot, knee maneuver is common use by cops for 6' 4" drugged addled dindus who resist arrest.
Oh, look, a scholar. Shills are gonna shill but if you think this is going to bring the site down, you're in for a surprise bitch.
Thanks.
One of the big things I've heard a lot from self-proclaimed ex and current cops, is that consistent pressure to the neck is no longer taught -- you put pressure on the shoulder or head, and if it's actually necessary to restrain the suspect, you might move to the neck temporarily, but you're really not supposed to. Typically you don't intentionally aim for the neck.
TBH this looks like the ex-officer wasn't completely aware of where his knee was, and what it was doing -- maybe that was improper training, heat of the moment, or the crowd yelling at him, who knows. I would maybe say manslaughter, almost certainly not murder -- it also seems the DA is trying to pull a secret double jeopardy by charging the ex-officer with both manslaughter and murder.
I'm having a very hard time with what you have written. It just boils my blood and I just can't even...!!!!
It's "Cowboy". Not cow boy.
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Now look here dick wagger
Haha, sorry.
So you're saying that good fellow followed the proper procedure?
Yes, now unfuck yourself from this website
Piss off Hillary boy. You won't make us look stupid, shill.
His job is to go catawumpus on your resistant drug addled brain retard, enormous black men are often a physical threat to multiple officers. You have a lot to learn about cities work.
What a surprise, you know better that police procedures. But fuck them in front of your feelings, eh? Moron.
You're the one acting on feelings sage, you see a poor Black man under pain compliance and the feels the MSM tells you to have just come pouring out. Unfuck yourself from this site commie fag
Are you done cuckholding or are you too hot for your wife's boyfriend dick, shill?
except he should have been sitting in the back of a cop car for 8 of those 9 minutes instead of inexplicably being Kaepernicked on
Why do you think he was laid down by the car? Because he wanted to get in? Think harder faggot
That is a great point but it also does away with the whole idea of "it was a racially motivated killing lets burn down our neighborhood and teach whitey a lesson".
Well yes, that "justification" is beyond absurd and simply an excuse for mayhem.
Translation: The knee didn't do him in, but the knee certainly pushed him off the cliff.
Cause he was on drugs and used fake currency. Then Mahmoud called the cops on him.
Cop didn't assess the situation properly, there are other remedies to an arrest based on Minnesota statutes for counterfeiting. He was in no danger from this suspect. In an alternate universe George Floyd would have just been summoned, gone to court for his crime and be sentenced.
Let me ask you something. You hear a shattering of glass in your home. You go into the room guns blazing. You hit the trespasser. It was a kid who was getting his ball he accidentally kicked through your window.
How much time will you serve? Cause there is not a single fucking attorney on the planet who could get you off manslaughter charges EVEN WITH castle doctrine and stand your ground.
Cause you didn't assess the situation. You were in no danger.
Thumbs up buddy. The left think we are all a bunch of extremist nut jobs but your comment is proof that we are sober, logical, intelligent, and believe in the rule of law and justice. Floyd did nothing worthy of being killed for and that's just a fact. Chauvin may not have wanted to kill him but he did and I think you are right, he grossly assessed the situation incorrectly. I have no idea what makes a decent man kneel on the neck of someone cooperative, prone, and submitting. I don't even care if Floyd told Chauvin that he was going to kill him. Third degree murder at least.
Agreed. A good LEO knows when it’s go time, and when it’s time to shut it off and deescalate. It’s not an easy thing, but it unfortunately is a job where you have to be able to go from an unexpected adrenaline dump back to basically being a social worker and/or EMS worker on the person who may have been trying to kill you a few seconds ago.
We walk a thin line ideologically.
Because we hate government overreach, but we also hate lawlessness. We like cops because they maintain the peace, except for when they abuse the power we entrust them with against citizens.
Remember the past 3 months we have seen constitutional violation after constitutional violation. Before that we saw several Red Flag executions ordered by the state.
Except he wasn't killed, he died. Fuck yourself.
Yes. On the ground already. Handcuffed.
Are you trying to argue that a man on the ground handcuffed, I have to repeat that for effect. Needs additional restraining? With 2 other officers controlling his HANDS and his LEGS.
What direct danger is there buddy? Handcuffed with 2 officers on him. Why the knee? Why nod the knee between the SHOULDER blades? Why on the neck?
Let me literally quote the report for you:
"Officer Keung checked his pulse but could not find it"
So this is around half way through the entire video roughly. They keep restraining a dude with NO PULSE!!! Please explain to me how someone in CARDIAC ARREST is going to be a danger?
HANDCUFFS DO NOT MEAN NO DANGER FAGGOT
Handcuffs on the ground with TWO cops on his arms and legs mean no danger limp dick!
You know what also makes your heart give out? Respiratory distress.
The pressure on the neck can obstruct the airway sufficiently to cause loss of consciousness and create enough pressure to prevent proper respiration whilst allowing for exhaling. The muscles for inhaling are way weaker than for exhaling.
Why was he on the fucking NECK and not the SHOULDER? Just ask yourself this fucking question why did the cop IGNORE the training that says it should be done for at most 60 seconds to produce compliance.
Compliance from a suspect on the ground! Handcuffed. WHAT COMPLIANCE IS BEING SOUGHT? He fell to the ground and was then ADDITIONALLY restrained by THREE officers.
The guy with his knee on the neck is the issue!!! That's why we are having this discussion. Because there ARE two guys on his hands and legs AND this dude on his NECK with his KNEE in violation of all police instruction and common sense.
The prior doesn't matter. He didn't steal he committed FORGERY. I don't care if he was a triple homicide felon who served his time. If he did his time it's DONE!
I kinda feel like you are intentionally being obtuse here. Saying he died an hour later in an ambulance? That means they worked on him, CPR and shock for that hour before declaring his death. He had no pulse BEFORE the paramedics assessed him, which means he was nearly dead already (he would've had to had some cardiac activity or else they wouldn't have tried to revive him for an hour- defibrillation only works with some rhythm left).
The cop was being warned by onlookers that he was going to kill the man and the asshole didn't care. This highlights a police brutality problem (not a racism problem). The free thought project is a website that catalogs officer killings. I've seen so many horrible cases there (of course no rioting in most cases).
We have to address the militarization of police and how they treat every citizen like POS criminals. They've changed the rules of engagement and they can pretty much shoot whenever they feel afraid. Female cops are the worst offenders there because they feel "threatened" way too easily due to weaker physical strength and height.
Despite his criminal record, when he was on his stomach in cuffs surrounded by 4 cops was he a threat? Could that knee have been placed elsewhere or not at all? You seem to want to blame Floyd but nothing reasonable allows you to do that.
You seem to not appreciate the concept that while Floyd contributed somewhat to his situation by his actions, he would not have died BUT FOR the knee to the neck, which was against police procedure and by all account not necessary. There are other effective ways to restrain a suspect, and if fact he was already effectively restrained. The officer acted with recklessness and should be punished for it.
We live in a society that demands compassion, even to criminals. What Floyd did does not deserve a death sentence.
What was the situation with George Floyd? In the video they talk about trying to get him into the car for 10 minutes and so supposedly he was violently resisting and had to be restrained.
Video shows him falling on the ground (reported as "going stiff" in the transcripts) and they were on him.
He was already cuffed. So there was little chance of him being a danger to anyone but himself.
Videos of the arrest show him getting cuffed and walked over to the car. There was nothing that I would describe as "active resistance".
Maybe he was playing it up with at the car, but that went from playing to dead serious after 4 minutes of knee in the neck.
Wrong, plenty of handcuffed criminals are still a danger, you faggot have clearly never watched Cops for a second in your shit lives.
How would he have been a danger? He was prone on the ground, handcuffed with 2 other cops on him? Oh boy if that THIRD cop wasn't on his neck we'd be reading about a quadruple cop killing for sure!!!
Get out of here with this bullshit! This guy had no weapons on him, was cuffed and restrained. There is NO reason for additional force.
What are the videos missing? Why were the bystanders saying he shouldn't have been resisting so much?
Passive resistance. They stopped him in the car. Put him against the wall. Cuffed him. Then he wasn't cooperating with being moved to the van and being put in so they tugged the cuffs and he fell down before being put into the van.
No active resistance took place. None is described in the report.
The resistance displayed didn't warrant the amount of force and I would say that after the force was applied for a minute he became compliant to anything to make him get off him. But it kept going.
Imagine if he had JUST gotten off his neck. What would the story have been? Dude has heart attack due to panic induced by arrest. The thugs rioting now would still be rioting but we wouldn't be sitting here discussing when the state can kill a citizen!
Which should be in exactly 2 cases. When they are a threat to other citizens or to the officer.
Yeah, the toxicology report should help make it more clear, I don't know how long those take though.
Cause he was a criminal who continued to break the law.
Could be anything. He was 40 and I don't know if you've gotten there yet but you start to approach cliffs at that point in your life especially if your diet it shit, you do drugs, etc. It's not against the law to put your body right on the cliff's edge. It seems like you might be trying to put some blame on Floyd but that would be unfair. If on the other hand you are simply implying that some underlying health concern might have come into play that would be fair. It's still involuntary manslaughter and it makes no sense why Chauvin was kneeling on his neck. There was no reason to do that especially with three other cops right on the guy.
I love these comments,
"No reason to kneel on neck! hAvE CuMpAsSioN"
Fuck yourself faggot, you know literally nothing of police procedures and maneuvers let alone the order of operations in a common traffic stop. Cops restrain with pain compliance when you are a threat to them, not the other way around. Kys.
I’d say being a criminal and breaking the law again did that, but that officer is an asshole who I don’t believe wanted to kill him, but played a stupid game and now will win a stupid prize.
Did he break the law? Forgery charges are about intent. If he got the fake $20 from another place he is not the one committing the crime of forgery. This is why it's important to take the suspect in ALIVE. So you can actually do the investigation.
I agree 100%, but you are telling the wrong person that. Preach that to the demographic who is infamous for always “feeling” disrespected while also resisting arrest making otherwise benign situations much much worse for themselves and others. This is another obvious example of when assholes collide. Both played stupid games and both won stupid prizes.
I’m not saying this is the case for the Gregory Floyd situation, but it is well documented by countless previous examples/incidents that a significant amount of suspects don’t want to be, or don’t care if they are taken in alive. They will do anything to avoid going back to prison at all costs especially if, just like GF, they have a past criminal record and/or are a convicted felon. They rather put their lives and other lives at risk while resisting in order to play and hopefully win the ghetto lottery. I know many don’t like this reality, and are scared to talk about it, but it’s the truth and cannot be ignored any longer, unless of course, people want cities to continue burning.
And when they resist arrest and pull a gun or start punching a cop or go for the officer's gun it's done. Arbery got shot, big sad, but he made the wrong choices. This case is different. This case is the same as Tony Timba. Officers arrive. Officers use excessive force. Citizen dies.
But cops have been getting worse and worse. Red flag shootings. SWAT raids where people are gunned down. No knock raids where people are killed.
Maybe it's the lockdown that's playing a huge role in this. But all I saw was 4 cops not doing their job right and a suspect that was no threat being restrained past the reasonable level of force that situation required.
Man, you sound just like me. You won’t dare see me defend LEOs like many here do, but I don’t wish nothing bad on them or anyone else for that matter. As far as I’m concerned, they don’t exist and I don’t need them. I am well protected, and I’m not a criminal. I never invite the man into my life unless I absolutely have to for insurance purposes. I’m white, and my very first interaction with LEOs at 18 was a complete bullshit stop I got lost and was in the “wrong” neighborhood. I was mildly man handled and verbally abused because their fishing expedition didn’t pan out. It was hilarious. They also didn’t like the fact that I knew my rights, and how the game is played while also being respectful.
No but you can question negligence in putting someone in a vulnerable position face down in handcuffs and then kneeling on their neck for 8 minutes. You don't do this because if there are underlying medical conditions you can kill someone. Involuntary manslaughter seems a very real possibility. What the media are trying to do is convict all white people and especially cops of racist and murderous intent which is far from the truth.
Hot take, you're a faggot like 90% of people on social media thinking kneeling on a neck suffocates somebody. That's not how pain compliance works.
Your point is even worse, holy shit
I loved how that CNN guy that got arrested said: "this is Trumps America. "
Like seriously..... that's the stretchiest stretch I've ever stretched.
That was so fucking moron Brian Stelter could JO.
Have an upvote for being one of the few who rightfully blame my generation (GenX) for a lot of the fuckery today. That rarely gets said. We are the ones who raised a generation of ADHD trannies and thought it was OK because it would be just the sort of thing to piss off our Boomer parents. Let's take GenX to task for once. I don't know why my generation has always been given a pass.
Having said that, GenX was never woke and fucked in the head like Millenials. We were sort of latch key kids that fucked off and did our own thing. No way do we carry the brunt but it's so interesting to me that Millenials and Boomers go at each other so hard. I think about it a lot like having a circle of friends back in the day. There were always people in the group that most of us didn't like and those people always hated each other with a passion.
These things always confuse me, so is it boomer -> gen x -> millennials?
I agree with what you've said, gen x is the reason why so many millennials are fucked up. I'm a millennial and my alcoholic father is the reason I suffer from so many mental health issues. It really screws you up living with an alcoholic or drug addict, and the problem is that gen x doesn't understand this. They don't believe in mental health issues like depression, anxiety, etc. and think it's all made up and that you're just sensitive. They just don't want to understand that their bad parenting is the reason why their kids are so screwed up. Then they wonder why the kid had a mental breakdown and became a radical leftist. Oh I don't know... maybe because you were too busy getting plastered and not actually parenting them?
And that was the moment you knew his arrest was staged. What kind of 'reporter' makes that sort of statement?!
He almost said, "THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY!"
waiiit the reporter said that? holy shit
What he fails to understand is that this is and always has been the people's America and the people wanted Trump. When they point to contrived narratives, what they are really saying is that 'this should be my favored candidates America' which is how we know these people get paid to be retards. It is our America and retards like this CNN reporter should consider finding someplace else to live. Maybe Africa? I'm sure he would be so welcome there and never get arrested lol.
Klobuchar had the opportunity to press charges on this cop for another wrongful death case and declined to prosecute. It’s Democrats all the way down.
Other wrongful death case? Reality? Facts? What are you talking about? Why would anyone believe to facts when another use said in this thread that
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Man, the shills are moving hard today.
Ah, but with Trump, soon it will be elephants all the way down...
I don't know man, that's pretty fucked up. I know some Dems that I have great respect for though not necessarily that many. I can think of one in particular who is about 65. He and I have worked together for about 13 years and always disagreed about a lot of stuff politically but we've had civil and rational conversations and we both lament that this isn't the norm these days. He and I can come to agree on a lot of stuff too if we are honest with each other. He is, if nothing else, honest. He loves America and is an upstanding member of society. He just retired and I still plan to hang out with him when I can. Thinking that someone should be dead for having a different label than you is pretty fucked up. In fact, as conservative as I am these days, I still hate the GOP. They are not on my team. They don't give a fuck about you and I.
No, because they still vote democrat even when dead!
I upvoted you btw, because downvoting is gay.
I bet Trump gets blamed for people losing the lottery. “I used to win scratch offs all the time when Obama was in office.”
"I've put on 30 pounds since Trump got elected. That guy's such an asshole"
Dude you look beautiful and sexy at 430 and don't let the patriarchy tell you different.
Nice comic relief bud. I remember a murder of crows that used to eat bread crumbs off my porch until supremacist mammals (squirrels and raccoons mostly) figured out they could get some free food and the crows could only watch and screech and starve. I recollect that this happened summer of 2017 so Trump fucked our dinosaur pals.
Floyd killed himself with chronic crack cocaine abuse.
Reminds me of the guy in Baltimore--Freddy Gray--who coined the "I can't breathe" -- and had a history of faking injuries. Outsmarted himself in the police van by flinging himself against the door. And died. Followed by riots..
Yeah but the knee to the throat by the executive branch didn't help.
Forgive me if I withhold my sympathies from a repeat felon committing another felony.
LOL.....putting your knee and body weight on the back of another human beings neck for 8 minutes.........dude even UFC doesn't allow that shit! I don't think anyone is a saint here.....If Chauvin contributed to a heart attack or death that seems to be the definition of manslaughter. This no way excuses George Floyd's behavior......as Dan Bongino stated you bring them to the ground and cuff them and the fight is over...........this video was not that. This was a video of officers putting all their weight on him while he was already cuffed or made no effort to put cuffs on George Floyd.........that is fucking sick.
Amen. Let's imprison Chauvin for involuntary manslaughter and justice will be served. That's not going to stop rioters from claiming racism and burning their own neighborhoods to the ground but none of this is about fixing stupid.
Nah that was no dedication. They could have literally gotten off this dude any second but they chose not to. If he was SOOO far gone that he would have died regardless of the restraining knee then there was 0 chance he'd have been able to resist arrest.
Just think about it. Instead of just backing down they used the protection of the state to apply force in a situation that required tact.
I noticed most places that have corrupt cops are from Democratic bound states
LIBERATE DEMOCRAT BOUND STATES!
Not to mention he wasn't prosecuted by Klobuchar for his earlier mistakes
And you could also make the same meme where the top frame says, black rioter shot by another black rioter in a black people riot.
I hate Eric Andre by the way. One of those fractionally black people like Colin Kaepernick who bitch and moan louder than full on black people.
Yeah, like they're overcompensating--I'm only HALF this race, so I gotta double down. Although, given your user name, you might appreciate this: Johnny Winter often spoke about the way he and Edgar were double/triple outcasts in Texas who didn't fit in with whites, hispanics or blacks--but were tolerated by everybody. And of course once they heard his chops, things changed.
The charlatans defend their grift harder than normal people defend themselves due to desperation. And duplicity.
lmao god please post this to r politicalhumor and let's all brigade the shit out of it, before we get banned from their shithole
I’m sick of these Lib City Cops getting away with murder and taking the side of the Dems as they trample on our free speech
Keith Ellison approves.
Basically
I wonder what kind of mental gymnastics my liberal friends will preform when I send them this.
Dude. Something bad happens somewhere in the world. It's obviously Trump's fault.
Maybe people are willing to give their lives so the far left can push socialism onto America.
That is a pretty big line to cross and something that probably happens more than we think. Something I've always played around in my head but always sounded so alien to me.
To a Muslim its second nature. Is this what ISIS and other Islamic groups doing to help the far left in the west? Train people to give their lives tot he socialist cause?
related shitpost
(shamelessly stolen from r/smuggies)
I find I can enjoy Eric as long as the time period involved is less that 15 seconds and doesn't involve a full sentence. Hannibal Buress is excellent in this meme and always less tedious and often more amusing than Eric if words are involved. I occasionally wonder if Eric is aware that he's responsible for the most concise meme format in recent memory for illustrating the duplicity of the progressive movement. I hope he's OK with that, but I'm OK if he isn't. I could go on, but there's nothing on fire where I live or people screaming in the streets so it's probably a good time to wash the car. Don't feel like cutting the grass...screw that.
What a cool comment. You know, they have tracked down a lot of meme people---including the jealous girlfriend, Brian, the closing his eyes blond guy, even the Erma Gerd Goosebermps girl..I'm sure there are more...
But was he a dirty cop? 🤔 was george zimmerman guilty? 🤔
With the autopsy news, seems less so but he certainly has a history of "incidents." And no, Zimmerman wasn't guilty...but the MSM turned him into a white guy--they were so disappointed he didn't fit the narrative.
Hey did you notice all the whites rioting when that black dude punched that old man for 5 minutes straight because he was white?
The black dude that was put on quarantine and sent to a nursing home on purpose where the most high risk are located? Then proceed to be unattended and made like 8 different videos beating up white elderly? Yeah I don't remember the riots on that either. I think maybe that he was just one of many people like that sent to nursing homes and her was the only one dumb enough to record it. There's a reason why so many people in nursing homes died under Democrat supervision.
And then send a tweet taunting "saltines"....
Spicy, but would be better if it didn't contain a misspelled word.
Right? Lazy and embarrassing. OP: take a minute to review what you’ve written before sharing it online next time. Jesus Christ. Makes us look dense AF.
1,000 years from now it will all still be Trump's fault (tm)
Unless the leftists lose!
Floyd and the cop both worked as security guards at the same nightclub, which seems weird.
That cop is no better than the criminal he murdered.
But the terrorists' actions of burning down the police station and thereby destroying all evidence probably means that he'll pretty much get away with the crime, along with all the other criminals who committed crimes proven only by evidence which had been housed in that police station will get off unjustly.
Cop is a pos, no question. I was wondering if the motive he had for putting his knee on the guy's neck was more complicated than police brutality. Maybe the dirty cop was an enforcer, and the guy owed a debt, or something? They did work at a nightclub, so it could maybe be drug related, which is weird because it was filmed by the other cops. Probably wasn't that. I'm just spitballing here, It's just weird that they worked at the same place, which means they probably knew each other before this happened, which definitely adds another layer to the story. I would actually rather the cop have been crooked and working for a gang, or something, because that makes more sense than just randomly hurting people for kicks. Again, I'm just speculating, so don't quote me on any of this.
It's all sensible conjecture, but yeah, we can't possibly know all the details, especially at this point. Who knows if we ever will know, now!
This is going to be a battle of medical examiners. Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if Justice eventually pursues a case for deprivation of rights under color of law, which has the death penalty attached. If the State finds an ME through federal Justice or through Floyd's family private pathologist, and if homicide finds a more conclusive scientific basis -- Chauvin will be in trouble. However, at this juncture, this is a major point in favor of defense counsel for Chauvin.
What happened seems very clear. The real questions are going to come about the origin of the "riots."
many questions under that umbrella
"Dirty cop in a democrat city"... reminds of SNL's The Bubble
https://youtu.be/vKOb-kmOgpI
@ 1:40 .."planning is underway to give you everything you need , except police or firemen, because we haven't found any who'd agree to live here"....
Specifically show me where this meme is a shitpost...
ok, it ain't. There. I said it. (We do need more flair choices, tho)
Imma be real here. If they'd just sacked that police station, dragged the dirty cop out into the street, and hung him from a lamppost for murdering those he swore to protect, I wouldn't have lost a wink of sleep. Tree of liberty is thirsty.
But WTF stop burning random shit!
When was the last time it wasn’t in a Democrat run jurisdiction? I’m sure it happens all the time and I don’t pay attention, I just sent to remember the other time resulting in Baltimore burning or something.
for some reason it says shitpost
Trying to deflect the haters!
OP is a dirty commie, what evidence do you fucking have that those cops were "dirty" other than what you allowed the MSM to convince you of? Fuck yourself.
44 is a long time to wait to murder a stranger.
Distrcit?
Still a good meme.
Read this whole thread and want to say thedonald.win posters have far more common sense and ability to clearly assess such situations (avoiding hysteria) compared to anyone else on the internet.
I don't know if dirty is the word I'd use. The guy seemed like he was burned out and should have quit the force a decade ago. Just so jaded that he didn't care anymore. Not that that is better, but that whole thing has that "banality of evil" feel to it.
I agree with court of law...........as for the rest
LOL.....putting your knee and body weight on the back of another human beings neck for 8 minutes.........dude even UFC doesn't allow that shit! I don't think anyone is a saint here.....If Chauvin contributed to a heart attack or death that seems to be the definition of manslaughter. This no way excuses George Floyd's behavior......as Dan Bongino stated you bring them to the ground and cuff them and the fight is over...........this video was not that. This was a video of officers putting all their weight on him while he was already cuffed or made no effort to put cuffs on George Floyd.........that is fucking sick.
This isn't a 30 second clip. Dude knelt on the guys carotid for fucking 9 minutes straight. This officer straight up murdered this dude on camera. I've never seen a more convincing snuff film.
Sometimes there's some context or extraneous circumstance that excuses something like this, but not in this case.
Don't make excuses for this fucking asshole. Yeah yeah, fair trial and all, but seriously, fuck this piece of shit. This is what gives people fuel to hate police officers and furthers the racist dog whistling of the left.
I've come all the way around from the other side on this. I grew up hating and distrusting police, eventually realizing it's a job, a tough job, one that I wouldn't want to do, and that the people who do it deserve respect.
This shit brings my piss to a boil like no other because I can see a younger version of myself being convinced that police are murdering, militarized assholes. This is the kind of shit that makes people hate police.
Maybe he should also have followed police procedure. Or is that a minor detail and basically anyone with a badge can ignore the office rules?
And it just happened to trigger at that moment, completely unrelated to the situation. You're right there with the libs in the mental gymnastics.
It was a meme...though of course to the Dems, it is Trump's fault.
Fuck off ShareBlue Shill
Everyone is entitled to due process.
Aside from communists. And antifa. Same thing, though..
Hello, brand new shill. "Trump has been messing up a lot lately" -- having nothing whatsoever to do with this meme. Sorry you couldn't stay longer, but I deported you.
If you are seriously considering not voting for Trump this year, then you don't belong here. You don't get to come in here and say shitty things about him but yuo love him. You are a troll/shill. The rules are simple. "Different person" what vague bullshit. He threatened no violence. YOu were too stupid to understand what he said and like a true cuck jumped on the exact wrong interpretation OMG HE'S GOING TO SHOOT PROTESTORS. GTFO