DO YOU TRULY HONESTLY BELIEVE BLACKS AND WHITES AND HISPANICS CAN LIVE TOGETHER? Because no matter what the reason, I have seen this exact script play out before. I have seen blacks use racial issues to burn cities down, loot, riot, steal etc. Right now America looks too much like rhodesia, too much like south africa, too much like ANYTIME One Race HATES Another Race. And most blacks hate whites, they make no bones about this.
I just want to know what you guys think, because it seems like things are just getting worse for America and I'm increasingly becoming blackpilled on the idea that multi racial societies are sustainable. I think most of us were pretty pessimistic on the idea about multiculturalism but I really feel like we have no future. If I was a white guy in MN KY TN OH OR CA GA etc, I would be terrified to go out tonight. I just want to hear what everyone else thinks, maybe I'd like to hear some people tell me why I'm wrong, but it seems like this is just the cold hard sad truth today.
Obviously this is literally just a discussion thread and it goes without saying that the country founded under ideals we all look up to are important and are ideal but it seems like half the country try just hates us because we are white and it feels like it's gotten worse since 2016. I wish this wasn't the case but it's just how I can't help but feel right now, seeing everything going on. I'm just wondering what you guys honestly think after seeing all the craziness pop off this week.
Please serious answers me
You're seeing the literal dregs of society, the Democrat Army.
Productive people, rational people, people with families. They don't want their cities on fire.
Don't take the race bait, otherwise they win.
I think you nailed it. This is bait. They call us nazis and racist for years in hopes they can draw us in to it all.
It’s really not about race. It’s about agitators. Antifa, the media, dem politicians, “community leaders”. They poke, prod and stir the pot enough so you have paid actors, criminals and a handful of idiots that think they’re on the right side Causing mayhem. Most blacks and Hispanics are doing the same thing as most whites, sitting at home watching this clown circus play out on tv or online thinking it’s stupid.
I do not think it has anything to do with skin color. It has everything to do with values of a collective. We can all rally around American values. What drives us apart are the Communist self-defeating self-loathing values which destroy and build nothing.
The only way it will ever work is if people wake up to the fact that the neolibs/cons are using race to pit one against the other. Unfortunately too many Americans are too stupid to ever figure this out.
I have been married to a Mexican born woman for over 20 years, she is as much of a Trump supporter as any of us on this board. The problem we have in this country isn’t race, it’s people using race to divide us and not suffering the consequences for doing so.
Yeah, I do. I just don't think Americans and communists can live together peacefully.
Plenty of wonderful multicultural communities have existed for many years in this country with harmony and prosperity.
However, the Chinese government has been inundating our education systems and governments, brainwashing our people with their propaganda, and it has unfortunately been working through our entire country for the last few decades. It's going to be incredibly difficult to break through this.
Think of who is at the core of these riots. People who have been lied to by the media and the DNC into believing that a fake boogeyman exists (blm), and people who are perpetuating those very lies (antifa).
Antifa is a great example of why I don't think these issues are at all racial in nature. Those terrorists are by and large a bunch of middle/upperclass white communists and they are perhaps the biggest instigator of all of this.
I'd use the word "Globalist" often with Communists. The top-tier globalists appear to prefer the Chinese model of them on top and lots of serfs.
we are not standing for racism pal. We need to unite against communists.
The question is, can you imagine it being actively driven via standard insurgency operations? Or is it too conspiratorial to even consider? Did you study the "Civil War" in Ukraine? Can't point fingers at Rhodesia or South Africa (didn't pay enough attention there), but, "Outside Agitators" and "External funding" are often key, key motivations.
Because fixing it will involve counter-insurgency operations.
There's a lot of people that are "emotional thinkers" for a long list of reasons. But 'my team first' is a mighty easy philosophy, and there's always grifters and opportunists to exploit everywhere.
Emotional thinkers can be made a mob almost at will. Fan flames in one direction with a fake photo-or-two of racist shit (let people argue back and forth, getting worked up), schedule "peaceful protests" with "wide support" and "active press cooperation" to get bodies and impossible-to-track, fan things back in the other by sparking off increasing escalating events (white guy breaks autozone windows and is suspected of painting 'free shit'), after people twig to 'hey, wait a second' and spread that far and wide "hey, this guy's a cop!"
Several reports of agitators, agitating. "Flown in" and "Arrived in busses" and other assorted shenanigans.
Plenty of live vids of large groups of 'not actively doing much' types (who are, yes, ignoring all sorts of chaos - and happen to be mixed in all directions pretty peacefully!). But the scale is quite low. Multiple cities, sure, just like they organized it. but if people are flying in, you're draining places that could literally be overrun to fight in places that you want to put in your spotlights. "Third Precinct Burnt!" Well, when you simply order it emptied, it gets easier.
Looters going to loot. "Top photos" of "That guy has worst-stereotype-of-class written all over him" all over the place. Did we let all the worst felons out all over the place? Why, yes we did. Washington State tried to release the effing "Green River Killer". Almost all coordinated like. Because jail is really a pretty good quarantine if you simply stop things like daily basketball and start thinking "How do I" instead of simply "Can't be done."
But you can't enact (legally) "Counter-insurgency" before you have mayors, prosecutors, and governors as obviously "on the other side" or "Begging for help".
If we're going "historical", I'd like actual sieges. Just saying.
Just released a rant on "How to make an emotional mob" that's on point.
I suppose we'll have to see if they can manage the Roman 'multiple mobs fighting at once' trick. As in actual mobs in the street in significant numbers.
Happen to be boggled our press thinks we're led by a giant cheeto. And so easily distracted by merely screaming Squirrel! once-per-day. They're so trained for proclamations to be empty nothings that decrees for 'local production of medicine' or 'secure the powergrid' don't send enormous red warning sirens off in their heads.
Not skull pyramids or macabre fields of former enemy-cicles? Kinda think ... we were supposed to have more dead in this already. "Somehow".
The man knows his enemies. (And, not only does he know them very well, he's able to frame it to his core followers. See "Kayleigh McEneny")
The man knows himself. (And not the Orange Cheetos the press always seems to be fighting. They ... don't know their enemy!)
Happen to think the man groks Sun Tzu. Completely. A snippet of a file I started keeping of Trump quotes, Sun Tzu-like activity, and 're-quotes' of others that seem applicable.
“Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.” --Michael Corleone
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. --Napoleon Bonaparte
If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles. --Sun Tzu
Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war. --Donald Trump
I judge people based on their capability, honesty, and merit. --Donald Trump
If you get good ratings, they'll cover you even if you have nothing to say. --Donald Trump
I'm the Ernest Hemingway of 140 characters. --Donald Trump
“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
“Treat your men as you would your own beloved sons. And they will follow you into the deepest valley.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
“When the enemy is relaxed, make them toil. When full, starve them. When settled, make them move.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
But this one is key:
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
History at school was a drag. Science Fiction -> Military Science Fiction -> Eric Flint. Eric Flint's a historian that writes a lot of "What if?" sort of things. You might like 1632 - it dragged me into studying more history. He also has a fictionalized alternate histories of Belisarius.
Oh, no. He's mastered just one more thing. (And, not from Columbo.) He yells Squirrel, very very well. I'd love a historical name for the technique, because "Yeah, a kids movie named Up!" doesn't enlighten everyone.
The part I found boggling was:
The Left spent sixty solid years. Solid. Trying to convince us Russia was our friend. And then turned on a damn dime. I fell out of my chair. Really? Russia? I'd half tuned out completely boggled by the entire idea people thought, well, anything of Obama.
There's a kids movie "Up!" Silly dog involved that hyperactively 'points' whenever someone yells "Squirrel!" And then has his food stolen, or is otherwise snookered. A re-re-re-recurring theme in a decent uplifting sort of happy movie, leading to a quote that escaped the move into various niches. A "riveting distraction" say. Something they must address.
The man tells us, flat out, repeatedly: The press is the enemy of the people. (And granting the occasional exception). But he uses their propensity to pounce on them every, darn, day. They're incapable of leaving his random-whatsit unmocked or attacked full-force. They seem baffled entirely by how "Ford the medical device provider" came to be, even as the man shouted "We're going to be the King of Ventilators" at them every day for a week straight. And "You're going to be sick of me talking about ventilators". :D
You brought up the Jalisco Cartel. And I'm wondering "So ... how much of a war are we simply not hearing about." Very few peeps on the cough "Drug interdiction".
Unfortunately I myself sometimes think you may be right. I think it could have been possible had things not been how they have been in this country for as long as they have. But racial tensions have been brewing for too long, and people have gotten more tribal, especially in the last 5 years. I think we are definitely getting past the point of no return unless something drastic happens soon