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firestorm117 9 points ago +9 / -0

Funny. I'm injun and yet I feel perfectly safe with our police force. even have friends who are cops.

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Caferrell 4 points ago +4 / -0

In Wisconsin the police forces that work for the different reservations are all Indians.

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saveMySpeech 4 points ago +4 / -0

https://www.phillypolice.com/assets/directives/cops-w0753-pub.pdf

Page 32

Definition of OIS (Officer involved shooting) is on page 17

Definition of TPFs (threat perception failures) is on page 30

TPF of white officer against black suspect is 6.8

TPF of black officer against black suspect is 11.4

TPF of hispanic officer against black suspect is 16.7

Aka Hispanics and then black officers are more likely to shoot an unarmed black suspect. The claim that white officers are more likely to kill black suspects is complete bullshit.

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672-EVIL [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

No, this isn't true. It shows that if you are black and die during arrest, the chance that it was by homicide was 61%. Some for whites. If you would use # of deaths per 100000 arrests in whites and blacks as you suggest, it would be distorted because a lot of blacks or whites don't die because of homicide by law enforcement but because of drugs, suicide, disease etc during arrest (ca. 50%). You have to calculate the number of people who died by homicide as a percentage of all arrest related deaths for that race. This table is perfect for our argument and makes the argument of the left obsolete that there's only not more black deaths because there's more whites.

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Tyrone_biggums 2 points ago +2 / -0

This person is right here

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JohnBarron 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fack we need more up to date

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saveMySpeech 3 points ago +3 / -0

https://www.phillypolice.com/assets/directives/cops-w0753-pub.pdf

Page 32

Definition of OIS (Officer involved shooting) is on page 17

Definition of TPFs (threat perception failures) is on page 30

TPF of white officer against black suspect is 6.8

TPF of black officer against black suspect is 11.4

TPF of hispanic officer against black suspect is 16.7

Aka Hispanics and then black officers are more likely to shoot an unarmed black suspect. The claim that white officers are more likely to kill black suspects is complete bullshit.

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JohnBarron 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you

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672-EVIL [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here's a more recent study published:

**We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers. **This suggests that increasing diversity among officers by itself is unlikely to reduce racial disparity in police shootings.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877

I couldn't find more up to date DOJ data but I doubt the numbers changed that much considering it didn't change during those 9 years.

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JohnBarron 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you

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Aslrightnow 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do we have any more recent data? This is over a decade old.

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672-EVIL [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

There's a 2019 nationwide study conducted by Michigan State University and the University of Maryland which concludes:

We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers. This suggests that increasing diversity among officers by itself is unlikely to reduce racial disparity in police shootings.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877

So this new study backs the DOJ data up. Also, don't expect much change in the numbers since 2009. Not much has changed.

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saveMySpeech 1 point ago +1 / -0

cops: https://www.phillypolice.com/assets/directives/cops-w0753-pub.pdf

Page 32

Definition of OIS (Officer involved shooting) is on page 17

Definition of TPFs (threat perception failures) is on page 30

TPF of white officer against black suspect is 6.8

TPF of black officer against black suspect is 11.4

TPF of hispanic officer against black suspect is 16.7

Aka Hispanics and then black officers are more likely to shoot an unarmed black suspect. The claim that white officers are more likely to kill black suspects is complete bullshit.

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672-EVIL [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting. Thanks. Will bookmark.

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saveMySpeech 2 points ago +2 / -0

https://www.phillypolice.com/assets/directives/cops-w0753-pub.pdf

Page 32

Definition of OIS (Officer involved shooting) is on page 17

Definition of TPFs (threat perception failures) is on page 30

TPF of white officer against black suspect is 6.8

TPF of black officer against black suspect is 11.4

TPF of hispanic officer against black suspect is 16.7

Aka Hispanics and then black officers are more likely to shoot an unarmed black suspect. The claim that white officers are more likely to kill black suspects is complete bullshit.

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PedeInADeepBlueSea 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sadly, only up to 2009. I am very curious what the Obama years did for these crime statistics. Anyone have any info?

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672-EVIL [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep. I checked and it says they will use new approach to collect data (this was posted around 2011) but no new data was ever released during Obama's presidency. Makes me suspicious.

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AFandAM 1 point ago +1 / -0

Most law enforcement homicide is well justified, making most of the erased folks not victims. Or does this data exclude that large majority?

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AngryCitizen 1 point ago +1 / -0

How

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shintosurfer 0 points ago +1 / -1

Interesting how you cherry-picked 10+-year-old data. The more recent stats I have seen show blacks down from whites. Also, look at the number of deaths not percent, kind of goes against your argument. This also needs to be stacked up next to the number of crimes per race and population. That ends up showing a disproportionate number of blacks committing crimes based on population size yet still having fewer deaths. But hay my parents didn't instill race into everything as I grew up despite being poor, devoured, and heald back in school.

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672-EVIL [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

PS: Like you I agree there's more whites than blacks killed, but the best I could come with so far is this where it shows it's about equal which is also supported by this study.

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672-EVIL [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good luck digging up newer data. Half of deaths aren't even due to cop homicide. So show the data you go.