I won't copy and paste the convo with the girl. She had no arguments other than putdowns like callying me "babyboi", and writing "hahahahahahahahahahah" "LMAOOOOOOOO,"

The following convo was between a beta male and me -- I assume he meant to sweep in and save the damsel in distress

STEPHEN THE CUCK (afterwards known as Stephen): "your feelings are valid, your arguments are not. Instead of looking for validation on your feelings, I suggest trying to be a more proactive debater and and at least try and make it look like you considered the opposing argument. We can sit here all day talking about how “white lives matter” too, but that’s not the issue. White lives have “mattered” for much longer than Black lives; meaning they’ve been recognized and upheld where as Black lives at one point were considered 3/5 of their white counterparts (not all that long ago in the grand scheme of our country... did they say that in your Sesame Street special you enjoyed bragging about for whatever reason?). I highly encourage you to open your mind and actually try talking to the community that is hurting, rather than excluding them because “your life matters too”... when you say “all lives matter”, you’re making it all about you when their issues have existed and been undermined for hundreds of years in America.

ME: Again, you're putting words in my mouth. Not once have I said or indicated that I'm excluding anyone.

STEPHEN: your words speak for yourself. I understand that you’re not trying to do this, but you are being dismissive. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean you’re not negatively impacting the situation. I wish I could convey this to you clearly, as I can tell you are a passionate person who gives a shit. And I’m putting words in your mouth “again”? This is the first we’ve talked. Take your emotion out of the argument before you come at me.

ME: (1st comment) the "again" wasn't meant for you, Stephen. Karley did the same thing. It happened "again," and you were the second time. It was a slight grammatical error (actually, it wasn't a grammatical error, as "you" can be plural, and I often use it that way). Don't read too much into things and pounce on them. My "argument" as you say, is invalid, but I wasn't even making an argument, I was making a statement. "All lives matter" -- absolutely true. Are you willing to look me in the eyes and say that's invalid, that it's not true? That's what your "your argument is invalid" comment amounts to. Bro -- I'm not even addressing your assertion that some people need more attention than others. Sometimes they do, without forgetting the others (that's what I mean -- you're assuming that I don't believe that -- putting words or thoughts into me that I don't have). If you have three children and one needs more attention, you don't forget the first born child (and start talking about taking his stuff from him to give it to the middle child), while doing more things for the second child at the same time. You still actively love, and don't reMOVE your love from that first child, while giving more to the second, but all too often that is what happens with movements. I'm not saying the movement is bad, and I'm not asserting that more attention isn't needed for one person. The question becomes, though: what KIND of attention? This is where we get into philosophies of how much should government be involved.

2nd comment (and do we really want to see white people and black people treated as "children" that the government needs to equally dole things out to? I don't think so. There's a parable of Jesus -- about workers in a field. Some showed up early, and some showed up late, but they all got paid the same amount. Some of the workers said it was unfair, but Jesus said, the owner of the field can pay what he wants, and he offered a certain wage for the whole day of working in the field. This parable applies to the question: what do we do when one group of people comes late to the party of freedom? Whether it's their fault, or someone else's fault? We welcome them to the party. That's what we do. And we all start celebrating together. If India becomes a first world nation, do we somehow need to "pay them back" for all the hundreds of years of them getting to that level? No. We just say, awesome, I'm so glad you made it).

STEPHEN: (comment 1) the three words “all lives matter”, is true, sure. Will I look you in the eye and tell you that that response to BLM is dismissive and unhelpful? Absofuckinglutely! This is how you sound to me - imagine you’re in elementary school. Your friend is playing on the swings, they fall and break their arm. Instead of offering them help, or going to tell a teacher, you dismiss their pain and suffering and tell them that your pain, as irrelevant as it is, is equal to their pain. So you chose not to care. Helping your friend literally doesn’t take any of your rights away. Going and getting help, negatively impacts you in no way. Yet you still would rather leave your friend on the ground, suffering and begging for help. All you do is leave screaming out “All Pain Matters” as if that is an appropriate or logical response, while no issues are solved and your friend is still in pain. But yeah sure.. whatever man.. Why are you so immediately and adamantly against BLM in the first place? When BLM doesn’t mean WL don’t.. And if you are for the #BlackLiveMatter moment you are making it very hard to see. I just want to break that down so you don’t wrongly accuse me of putting words in your mouth as that is not my intention 🙂 And for future reference, when you tag my name in a comment, I’m going to assume you’re talking to me. Please be more clear in the future.

(comment 2) alright at this point you’re just rambling about completely irrelevant information. This is not productive or helpful discourse and is the language of the ignorant. No idea why you’re making the point that white people and Black people are not children. Not sure why you want to bring Jesus(???) into this. “Some showed up early and some showed up late”... WOW - what? Are you saying that since Black people were “late to the party”, that they deserve to be treated as less than us? You do know about slavery right... and how it was abolished not that long ago... You are welcoming nobody to the “party” other than yourself. Can you truly not see that? The things that BLM protesters are asking for are things you and I have had the privilege of being born with. I’m sure you’ve never considered your privilege based on your skin color, and that’s great! Privilege based on skin color should not exist, yet it’s undeniable that this bias exists. I choose to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. But hey, free country right??

ME: Whatever, stephen. It was grammatically correct, and I'll write as a please, and make the arguments I wish to (if you were a teacher in a class, go ahead, make that comment, but this isn't a classroom, and we interract as equals). Maybe it's something you shouldn't get hung up on, especially when you realize it's a misunderstanding? (after all, part of the misunderstanding was on your side. Move on, but I'm sorry it was something that was hard for you). That's an example of the thing: forgiveness. At some point, people need to forgive and move on from a past that's 200 years old. The person didn't fall of the swing today. And, if you'll remember, 600,000 white people chose to shed their blood to free the slaves (perhaps more than lost their lives in the slave trade). Looked at in that way, "we" paid the price already. It's out of touch of you to act like slavery ONLY affected black people, when so many white people died to free them. Both fell off the swings and were stuck in the effing mud). And no, again, I already said up above that I'm not threatened by BLM. I am against a lot of the rioting that happens in association with protests, though (and I AM against the logical inconsistency of people saying, "stay home," then doing a 180 and planning demonstrations all over the country, even though justice is already being done -- the cops are being prosecuted). You're word picture of the swing is a word picture, but I can paint one, too. The middle child in the family I already mentioned has felt (more than felt), that he hasn't been treated fairly. The parents DO spend more time on him, but they also verbally reaffirm their love for the firstborn (in front of the second born, because they want the second born child to know that he isn't the only one, and that it's important to forgive and love the older brother. The second born needs to hear that love expressed for others, too, because it's all too easy, when you're hurting, to think it's all about you. I'm speaking from experience, here -- do you think that middle child is someone I don't know?).

(2nd comment): what things are they asking for? The right to vote? They have it. The ability to apply for work? They have it. The opportunity to make something of themselves? They have it. We all have it. When everyone came here, they started with nothing, and made something of themselves. If you're referring to the justice system, there are stats that show that white people are killed more often by cops than blacks. That might just be because every time it happens to a black person (even just one), the whole nation protests. There are times when it's unfair, but there are many times where simple instruction, the kind I grew up with: "don't talk back to the police, don't pull a black object out of your pocket when the police are pointing their guns at you" -- these would help. Kids, both white and black, need to be taught to cooperate with law enforcement. But right now, alot of the protests actually encourage the opposite reaction -- to resist arrest, and sadly that drives up deaths. Are there times when the cops are unfair? Yes. But I suspect it happens at a much more even distribution than we realize, but the media doesn't report on it. https://www.statista.com/.../people-shot-to-death-by-us.../

STEPHEN: crickets