My dad was always a big supporter of free speech. Went to the university of California in Berkeley during the free speech movement and riots there. He agreed with apples decision to ban Alex Jones. I went off on him for being such a hypocrite. That’s about when I bought my first MAGA hat. I have bought like 6 by now. All from the Trump store
The Berkeley free speech riots were not about free speech, in the same way that the George Floyd riots are not about George Floyd. Read Ayn Rand - The New Left: The Anti Industrial Revolution. She knew the left better than we do now 50 years ago.
Andrew Breitbart kneww the left better than you do as well
the reality is they will do anything for power. which means you must do anything to stop them. you can't tie yourself up with fictional rules against an enemy that plays by no ruless
the future of your country is at stake and you can't hamstring yourself
the way to take Free speech back is to have Trump and others in the government crackdown on Facebook and Twitter. I don't even care about section 230. really they should just pass a simple law or regulation stating that social media companies with more than 230 million viewers per month are not allowed to censor anything that is not illegal..
they've shown that they can't handle moderating themselves so as the ublic square they can't sensor anything unless it's illegal
boom. problem solved. And the FCC would conduct an audit of the algorithms every few months to make sure that Facebook and Twitter algorithms nott specifically targeting conservatives.
that's how you solve the problem. anything else is bullshit trying to get you to chase your taill
Problem with getting any law passed is lobbying. Good luck getting any politician to care unless they get enough contribution money to have lobbyists draft a bill and even more money to have all the corrupt fucks in our government vote to pass it.
Now how’s that gonna happen when these huge social media companies contribute to politicians so they don’t vote yes on anything limiting their power?
Maybe we need to set up a fund somehow to buy our way into not being censored. As sad as that sounds.
you can get around this by not passing a law and instead passing a regulation. regulation can be passed by the FCC and all it requires is Trump's signature..
Regulations have no teeth. They'd get a fine, and probably one they'd gladly pay. It might stop them from censoring some high profile people, but when it comes to you and me, they'd just go with the tried and true "muh algorithm."
Take reddit, the content there is extremely sensationalized. These social media boards heavily influence their front page. They may no longer be guilty of these acts these days as they have cultivated an audience of radicalized followers.
It is seriously disgusting over there. It is so heavily censored and manipulated to show only a single narrative.
Even worse are groups that are organized. I’m seeing heavy use of narrative promotion on places like slashdot. Is it the site owners or a brigade of users. When anyone mentions Antifa it gets denounced as a boogeyman. Yet there is clear evidence of their behavior and existence.
People are being manipulated for both indirect and direct dollars. I’m not sure what happened to society that they cannot reason and evaluate issues. I believe it is simply the nature of their ignorance.
Learn to question.
I know this site is a “trump rally”, but lately it seems to be the only place we can talk about what is really going on. Not everything here is reality either, but for the most part people here are genuine.
Twitter and FB are being used to coordinate mob attacks. Could that not be reason enough to temporarily take them offline_? And any other sites , such as reddit or IG or whatever, that try to fill the void-?
And the FCC would conduct an audit of the algorithms every few months
The problem with this is, most of the federal government are Democrats who have drunk the leftist Koolaid. The second another left administration came into power, the FCC would immediately greenlight any censorship that the FAAG companies do. And they would use the Trump administration's actions as a precedent. Absolutely without shame. Believe me. All they want is more power.
"you can't tie yourself up with fictional rules against an enemy that plays by no rules"
100x this.
Our principles should determine the way we treat each other, not our enemies.
The Golden Rule of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you is only good for the first action. After that, you do unto them as they dounto you. In other words, you simply repeat their moves back to them. This is the optimal play as has been proven in Darwinian theory.
Anti industrial revolution? Hasn't that been what globalism is all about? Move the factories and businesses out? America and the west as a whole has been de-industrialized for decades, it is our great president who's dedicated to bring the jobs back. This chinese virus pandemic is a warning call that accelerates this process to get the hell out of the chicom's grip.
The Berkeley riots were not about free speech, you're absolutely right. They were waving around the North Vietnam flag and Mao flags to show their support and camaraderie for Marxist movements. They didn't really care about or understand the depth and purpose of free speech as it would be articulated by someone like Tocqueville or such. It was just a political tool for subversion to them. They appropriated it and cheapened it just like they've done with everything else. Like anti-racism. Just look out your window right now and you can see the wonderful results.
My dad is same generation (but went to different college) and always rants about what hypocrites his generation has become, and his go-to example is always “even berkeley and all the ones who most supported free speech, what hypocrites!”
It's the same with the 60s anti-war movement. Did anyone see any big protests in Berkeley about Syria? Nope. The liberals in the 60s were mostly protesting the draft because they didn’t want to be sent to Vietnam. They never cared for peace. They only cared about saving their skins. The liberals are the biggest hypocrites. As long as it is NIMBY, then all is well for them.
Yup. My dad’s friends were all hippies, but he wasn’t really one himself. He tagged along to all the concerts because he’s a huge music fan and loved that scene, was just generally into the music and culture, but never got into the movement really. He didn’t want to go to Vietnam, but had he been drafted he would have went. He was slightly younger, so he was part of the lottery draft, and got really lucky on the draw (like, literally the last or second to last birthday drawn that year) so he never fought. A lot of his friends did though, and many died. His friends today are the ones that fought, only remained friends with a couple of the more hippie types
I remember when we visited DC on a family vaca he spent a lot of time at the ‘nam memorial. Only time I saw him emotional, and he looked for and found every name of one of his friends and told me about them/times he had with them
I don't support everything Alex Jones has said or done but I do fully 100% support his right to say any fucking thing he wants to. That's a hill I'd die on.
the way to take Free speech back is to have Trump and others in the government crackdown on Facebook and Twitter. I don't even care about section 230. really they should just pass a simple law or regulation stating that social media companies with more than 230 million viewers per month are not allowed to censor anything that is not illegal..
they've shown that they can't handle moderating themselves so as the ublic square they can't sensor anything unless it's illegal
boom. problem solved. And the FCC would conduct an audit of the algorithms every few months to make sure that Facebook and Twitter algorithms nott specifically targeting conservatives.
that's how you solve the problem. anything else is bullshit trying to get you to chase your taill
President Trump should set up a special task force with Alex Jones in charge, , get some conservative judges lined up for warrants , and tell Alex the gloves are off - legally speaking.
They do. They just don’t get enough campaign contributions from people who care to protect free speech. It’s all a money scam in DC. Highest bidder wins and right now too many politicians get contributions to not protect free speech.
My buddy got laid off from this 100 person startup in San Francisco earlier this year. The company then laid off nearly every employee. The only ones they kept were the h1-b visa holders. Disgusting how abused those visas are
The total fuckery is and has been abused for decades - My IT work has been hammered by it. Fuc the abuse we suffer for the benefit of billionaire parasites and their imported square peg nonfits.
Yup, Twitter most likely has some H1B Hindus doing censorship of Americans on America’s soil. Just reflect that. What bugs me is that Trump seems to listen to the rinos and his advisers as well as these SV CEOs to not pull the plug on H1B. He should do it given that they are now showing their contempt for free speech.
the way to take Free speech back is to have Trump and others in the government crackdown on Facebook and Twitter. I don't even care about section 230. really they should just pass a simple law or regulation stating that social media companies with more than 230 million viewers per month are not allowed to censor anything that is not illegal..
they've shown that they can't handle moderating themselves so as the ublic square they can't sensor anything unless it's illegal
boom. problem solved. And the FCC would conduct an audit of the algorithms every few months to make sure that Facebook and Twitter algorithms nott specifically targeting conservatives.
that's how you solve the problem. anything else is bullshit trying to get you to chase your taill
Already very late. By the election big tech would have suppressed most conservative prescence. When I search "Trump"' on YouTube only leftist results are displayed and I'm in Canada. Their censorship and manipulation of information is even worse in the US.
We can't take back social media when they control it. We have to just start boycotting it. Let them have their echo chamber and think they have this election. The silent majority will win in November. Use their fascist silencing tactics against them. Let them think only their opinion exists.
If you think you are redpilling communists in training by leaving comments on facebooks you're wrong. The mob mentality there is so strong, they see one pro Trump comment out of hundreds of anti ones and see you get attacked and only see their side winning. Then they think they are on the right side. You're underestimating how brainwashed these people are. Only way to red pill someone is in real life where they will actually take the time to listen to you.
I thought about this too. It worries me. But I know if we are all forced outside to defend ourselves we just need to look for the ones with the guns and we'll make it together.
This is the time for him to honor his oath. To defend the constitution against foreign and DOMESTIC enemies at all costs. If it takes a civil war, so be it. Deploy the military. Fight it and win it. He'll be remembered by real history as a new Lincoln, and he will be rewarded in heaven for that.
I see it as a good thing to not fight with them online. Fighting with them riles them up and makes them want to fight us harder. Letting them have their echo chamber will make them think they have this election and some will stay home and not vote.
That's not true. People hate not having anyone to argue with online. That's basically the reason they go online. The rational people who are convertible will start seeing through the lies. People only start questioning things once they experience it themselves. You can't argue your way to getting someone to support Trump. They will have to see the liberals destroy their lives.
I don't have a source on it, this is just what I've seen with my own eyes. I have never been able to argue my way into changing someone's mind about Trump. But I have seen people change because of what they have experienced themselves
Not doesn't. Liberals only learn when they experience the devastation of leftism themselves. You can't argue your way to convert someone to Trump. They have to see their neighborhoods burn, they have to be the ones to question what's going on.
The devastation of leftism is exactly what happened in the early 20th century to Russia. They inflicted themselves on the entire country, even those who were wise enough to know better. They're attempting the same thing here. I'd rather not burn with them.
We don't need the internet anyway. They might have mind-control and brain washing apps and virtue signaling corporations. But that's literally all they have. We have all the guns and the physical strength. We have trained ex military, places to hide in the country, hard working people trained in all kinds of skills. Dumbasses were supposed to complete their commie checklist before starting their revolution but they missed the most important one which was disarming us first.
Want to stop the riots? File conspiracy to commit public disturbance, and shut down Twitter, F/B, and pretty much all the main stream media, because you could also throw in contributing to the delinquency, malfeasance, and a whole string of charges. But once you shut them down, suddenly, no way for them to grab attention...then what? Sit home and cry? go into their own neighborhoods and get their butts kicked? Yeah, don't think that's going to happen.
TBH, Twiiter is complicit in the ANTIFA violence. Just by who they support and who they ban. It's laughable that they be considered a neutral platform. Sooner or later that will come back to haunt them
Facebook and Ytube both were in on the corona hoax which is now being revealed to everyone a foolish bunch of propaganda. They are also going to not be able to shake their past on this.
Meanwhile the internet is adapting slowly, information is decentralizing. We have a million forums, a million video hosting sites and tons of other up and coming social media sites that are all unaccountable to the leftist frindge.
Nothing lasts forever, and the lefts dominance in the social media world will get evened out much like they now have to content with FOX news. And now even OANN.
I still think we ought to fight to keep these platforms free or classify them as publishers, but in the end we will find a way. Believe it or not the left is losing the ideological battle. The internet and the decentralized ways we can communicate and share the news has been murderous for the left.
I am fairly optimistic about the future. It's just like when we created the printing press. Ideas, philosophy, and debates led to the Great Enlightenment. It's not like mankind is not capable of more leaps forward for freedom and greater morality.
There's one really easy way to reject their control of public discourse.
The only winning move is not to play
Go offline. Get out into your communities and take real, direct, action to help each other. Reject the illusion that you can make waves by playing within their tightly controlled artificial spaces and act within god's world, where no man can silence your voice. Not only will your real impact upon your community be much greater, but even your own life will improve substantially.
To trump you are a god fearing Jesus Christ loving man thank you for the hard work you have done for America we are united and we are with you we will not lose we are free
That's why I use Gab.ai (although need work on their UI), Viewsmatter.com (also newer and needs more users, but the good thing is no trolls). But lurking around here mostly. Couldn't lurk anymore after the recent events. The delusions are getting larger and getting us to the brink of civil war.
Commented that fox news finally deigned to have comments on one of their videos, some cuck said they were disabling comments on racial videos to prevent possible racism. Fuck fox, they are absolutely no better than the leftist outlets. Clearly they dont respect or trust their own viewers
I've gotten rid of them and I feel better for it. Facebook and Twitter a year ago, Google two years ago. Reddit...well, when everyone else here did. :-) Recently stopped purchasing from Amazon. As far as Apple, where do you go? Microsoft is as bad or worse for computers, and the phone market is Communist Central.
They want possession of the entire internet so it can be reserved for the advancement of globalistic agendas and policies. Make no mistake, that's the mile that they'll take if we budge.
They want possession of the entire internet so it can be reserved for the advancement of globalistic agendas and policies. Make no mistake, that's the mile that they'll take if we budge.
There are some that will say they are a private company and they can do that.
And this is partially true, a company can decide to not make business with someone but they can't break contracts.
Imagine a guy and girl go to bakery shop and couple tell the baker "I want you to make a cake for my wedding." and the baker says "congratulations, you are beautiful couple". The guy hears that and says "no, she is my sister, I am getting married with my pet chicken", and after it the baker says "sorry I wont make a cake for you under such circunstances".
At this example the baker has the right to not do this cake, but he dont have to right to break the contract, he dont have the right to listen to that say he will do the cake and then few days after it say "Sorry I wont make a cake for you."
What internet companies are doing is breaking the contract, when you join some site its assumed they wont censor you under some situations they are now censoring people. But not only that, they remove your stuff, while creating some fake excuses to why they are doing that and try to hide they are doing that, so they want to trick you unto staying with their product.
But there is even more, sometimes they even make harder for you to use another product (like when patreon people censored people and after people moved to subscribe star, as a boycott, suddenly paypal stopped making business with subscribestar). So its like a baker that only make cakes using piss during the process and this baker not only will only will not sell other kinds of cakes to you but wants to make sure you eat only this kind of cake (or no cake at all).
says "congratulations, you are beautiful couple". The guy hears that and says "no, she is my sister, I am getting married with my pet chicken", and after it the baker says "sorry I wont make a cake for you under such circunstances".
I mean its not just silicon valley anymore. There are tons of corporations out there currently just virtue signaling for a bunch of violent looters, rioters and terrorists. They're taking pride in financing terror groups out open in the public lol.
The time was 3 years ago when they banned Alex Jones.
I suppose late is better than never. Unless it's too late.
My dad was always a big supporter of free speech. Went to the university of California in Berkeley during the free speech movement and riots there. He agreed with apples decision to ban Alex Jones. I went off on him for being such a hypocrite. That’s about when I bought my first MAGA hat. I have bought like 6 by now. All from the Trump store
The Berkeley free speech riots were not about free speech, in the same way that the George Floyd riots are not about George Floyd. Read Ayn Rand - The New Left: The Anti Industrial Revolution. She knew the left better than we do now 50 years ago.
Andrew Breitbart kneww the left better than you do as well
the reality is they will do anything for power. which means you must do anything to stop them. you can't tie yourself up with fictional rules against an enemy that plays by no ruless
the future of your country is at stake and you can't hamstring yourself
the way to take Free speech back is to have Trump and others in the government crackdown on Facebook and Twitter. I don't even care about section 230. really they should just pass a simple law or regulation stating that social media companies with more than 230 million viewers per month are not allowed to censor anything that is not illegal..
they've shown that they can't handle moderating themselves so as the ublic square they can't sensor anything unless it's illegal
boom. problem solved. And the FCC would conduct an audit of the algorithms every few months to make sure that Facebook and Twitter algorithms nott specifically targeting conservatives.
that's how you solve the problem. anything else is bullshit trying to get you to chase your taill
Problem with getting any law passed is lobbying. Good luck getting any politician to care unless they get enough contribution money to have lobbyists draft a bill and even more money to have all the corrupt fucks in our government vote to pass it.
Now how’s that gonna happen when these huge social media companies contribute to politicians so they don’t vote yes on anything limiting their power?
Maybe we need to set up a fund somehow to buy our way into not being censored. As sad as that sounds.
That’s how governments work. Sick and sad but true.
you can get around this by not passing a law and instead passing a regulation. regulation can be passed by the FCC and all it requires is Trump's signature..
Regulations have no teeth. They'd get a fine, and probably one they'd gladly pay. It might stop them from censoring some high profile people, but when it comes to you and me, they'd just go with the tried and true "muh algorithm."
I don’t even know if it is “algorithms.”
Take reddit, the content there is extremely sensationalized. These social media boards heavily influence their front page. They may no longer be guilty of these acts these days as they have cultivated an audience of radicalized followers.
It is seriously disgusting over there. It is so heavily censored and manipulated to show only a single narrative.
Even worse are groups that are organized. I’m seeing heavy use of narrative promotion on places like slashdot. Is it the site owners or a brigade of users. When anyone mentions Antifa it gets denounced as a boogeyman. Yet there is clear evidence of their behavior and existence.
People are being manipulated for both indirect and direct dollars. I’m not sure what happened to society that they cannot reason and evaluate issues. I believe it is simply the nature of their ignorance.
Learn to question.
I know this site is a “trump rally”, but lately it seems to be the only place we can talk about what is really going on. Not everything here is reality either, but for the most part people here are genuine.
Twitter and FB are being used to coordinate mob attacks. Could that not be reason enough to temporarily take them offline_? And any other sites , such as reddit or IG or whatever, that try to fill the void-?
The problem with this is, most of the federal government are Democrats who have drunk the leftist Koolaid. The second another left administration came into power, the FCC would immediately greenlight any censorship that the FAAG companies do. And they would use the Trump administration's actions as a precedent. Absolutely without shame. Believe me. All they want is more power.
"you can't tie yourself up with fictional rules against an enemy that plays by no rules"
100x this.
Our principles should determine the way we treat each other, not our enemies.
The Golden Rule of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you is only good for the first action. After that, you do unto them as they do unto you. In other words, you simply repeat their moves back to them. This is the optimal play as has been proven in Darwinian theory.
Anti industrial revolution? Hasn't that been what globalism is all about? Move the factories and businesses out? America and the west as a whole has been de-industrialized for decades, it is our great president who's dedicated to bring the jobs back. This chinese virus pandemic is a warning call that accelerates this process to get the hell out of the chicom's grip.
The Berkeley riots were not about free speech, you're absolutely right. They were waving around the North Vietnam flag and Mao flags to show their support and camaraderie for Marxist movements. They didn't really care about or understand the depth and purpose of free speech as it would be articulated by someone like Tocqueville or such. It was just a political tool for subversion to them. They appropriated it and cheapened it just like they've done with everything else. Like anti-racism. Just look out your window right now and you can see the wonderful results.
My dad is same generation (but went to different college) and always rants about what hypocrites his generation has become, and his go-to example is always “even berkeley and all the ones who most supported free speech, what hypocrites!”
It's the same with the 60s anti-war movement. Did anyone see any big protests in Berkeley about Syria? Nope. The liberals in the 60s were mostly protesting the draft because they didn’t want to be sent to Vietnam. They never cared for peace. They only cared about saving their skins. The liberals are the biggest hypocrites. As long as it is NIMBY, then all is well for them.
Yup. My dad’s friends were all hippies, but he wasn’t really one himself. He tagged along to all the concerts because he’s a huge music fan and loved that scene, was just generally into the music and culture, but never got into the movement really. He didn’t want to go to Vietnam, but had he been drafted he would have went. He was slightly younger, so he was part of the lottery draft, and got really lucky on the draw (like, literally the last or second to last birthday drawn that year) so he never fought. A lot of his friends did though, and many died. His friends today are the ones that fought, only remained friends with a couple of the more hippie types
I remember when we visited DC on a family vaca he spent a lot of time at the ‘nam memorial. Only time I saw him emotional, and he looked for and found every name of one of his friends and told me about them/times he had with them
Honest truth
How is he feeling about that now 2 years later?
I don't support everything Alex Jones has said or done but I do fully 100% support his right to say any fucking thing he wants to. That's a hill I'd die on.
There is poison in the tap water.
THEY’RE TURNING THE FRIGGIN FROGS GAY
POT BELLY GOBLINS!
HITLER TOOK THE DMT!
BILL
the way to take Free speech back is to have Trump and others in the government crackdown on Facebook and Twitter. I don't even care about section 230. really they should just pass a simple law or regulation stating that social media companies with more than 230 million viewers per month are not allowed to censor anything that is not illegal..
they've shown that they can't handle moderating themselves so as the ublic square they can't sensor anything unless it's illegal
boom. problem solved. And the FCC would conduct an audit of the algorithms every few months to make sure that Facebook and Twitter algorithms nott specifically targeting conservatives.
that's how you solve the problem. anything else is bullshit trying to get you to chase your taill
I honestly cannot say the same thing about Don Lemon or Chris Cuomo.
President Trump should set up a special task force with Alex Jones in charge, , get some conservative judges lined up for warrants , and tell Alex the gloves are off - legally speaking.
That was a sad day. Now it’s open season on evan the President‘ s words.
They do. They just don’t get enough campaign contributions from people who care to protect free speech. It’s all a money scam in DC. Highest bidder wins and right now too many politicians get contributions to not protect free speech.
Yup, they are being paid to be communists, not protect the constitution.
My buddy got laid off from this 100 person startup in San Francisco earlier this year. The company then laid off nearly every employee. The only ones they kept were the h1-b visa holders. Disgusting how abused those visas are
The total fuckery is and has been abused for decades - My IT work has been hammered by it. Fuc the abuse we suffer for the benefit of billionaire parasites and their imported square peg nonfits.
Yup, Twitter most likely has some H1B Hindus doing censorship of Americans on America’s soil. Just reflect that. What bugs me is that Trump seems to listen to the rinos and his advisers as well as these SV CEOs to not pull the plug on H1B. He should do it given that they are now showing their contempt for free speech.
Thanks Kushner
They are not and paid much less… it a bongogle for The Silicon Vallley.
the way to take Free speech back is to have Trump and others in the government crackdown on Facebook and Twitter. I don't even care about section 230. really they should just pass a simple law or regulation stating that social media companies with more than 230 million viewers per month are not allowed to censor anything that is not illegal..
they've shown that they can't handle moderating themselves so as the ublic square they can't sensor anything unless it's illegal
boom. problem solved. And the FCC would conduct an audit of the algorithms every few months to make sure that Facebook and Twitter algorithms nott specifically targeting conservatives.
that's how you solve the problem. anything else is bullshit trying to get you to chase your taill
Does that include my deleting my accounts?
It's now or never for them, if they don't stop him now then it's over for them.
Already very late. By the election big tech would have suppressed most conservative prescence. When I search "Trump"' on YouTube only leftist results are displayed and I'm in Canada. Their censorship and manipulation of information is even worse in the US.
Yep. Trump must focus an free speech for all and no mail in voting.
We can't take back social media when they control it. We have to just start boycotting it. Let them have their echo chamber and think they have this election. The silent majority will win in November. Use their fascist silencing tactics against them. Let them think only their opinion exists.
If you think you are redpilling communists in training by leaving comments on facebooks you're wrong. The mob mentality there is so strong, they see one pro Trump comment out of hundreds of anti ones and see you get attacked and only see their side winning. Then they think they are on the right side. You're underestimating how brainwashed these people are. Only way to red pill someone is in real life where they will actually take the time to listen to you.
We have, these big tech commies need to be nuked from orbit too.
I deleted my Facebook account today. Every conservative needs to get off social media. Completely boycott it.
Good work, pede.
The only way Leftists learn is through their own experience. You can't argue your way to s leftists brain. It only pushes them away.
I kinda of agree We are losing but the war is not over
They have successfully silenced us online, but the silent majority still exists.
Yep
I just don't see a way through on big tech. Why is it so complicated to make the best technology and shut the fuck up about your politics.
We don't even have to agree, just shut the fuck up Google. Shut the fuck up Apple. Get out of the political rag business Amazon
Yep. Big tech is Chyna’s Bitch… they want 1.2 Billion more customers. Look at Nike,
Yep
Huge fear of mine if the time comes where it’s absolutely necessary too coordinate...
I thought about this too. It worries me. But I know if we are all forced outside to defend ourselves we just need to look for the ones with the guns and we'll make it together.
Carrier pigeons, model airplanes etc
Yep.
This is the time for him to honor his oath. To defend the constitution against foreign and DOMESTIC enemies at all costs. If it takes a civil war, so be it. Deploy the military. Fight it and win it. He'll be remembered by real history as a new Lincoln, and he will be rewarded in heaven for that.
I see it as a good thing to not fight with them online. Fighting with them riles them up and makes them want to fight us harder. Letting them have their echo chamber will make them think they have this election and some will stay home and not vote.
That's not true. People hate not having anyone to argue with online. That's basically the reason they go online. The rational people who are convertible will start seeing through the lies. People only start questioning things once they experience it themselves. You can't argue your way to getting someone to support Trump. They will have to see the liberals destroy their lives.
I don't have a source on it, this is just what I've seen with my own eyes. I have never been able to argue my way into changing someone's mind about Trump. But I have seen people change because of what they have experienced themselves
It makes it that much easier for them to do their damage if no one is actively fighting back.
Not doesn't. Liberals only learn when they experience the devastation of leftism themselves. You can't argue your way to convert someone to Trump. They have to see their neighborhoods burn, they have to be the ones to question what's going on.
The devastation of leftism is exactly what happened in the early 20th century to Russia. They inflicted themselves on the entire country, even those who were wise enough to know better. They're attempting the same thing here. I'd rather not burn with them.
www.Infowars.com
Yep. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Banned dot video!
Evil and truth are like oil and water.
Leftist worship Death , Destruction and Despair …
I want a thedonald.win style site for Canada.
👍👍👍
That’s actually a great way to explain this shit to people who don’t see it
Yep. It is.
President Trump will easily People's Elbow these commie Silicon Valley/social media companies.
👍👍👍
We don't need the internet anyway. They might have mind-control and brain washing apps and virtue signaling corporations. But that's literally all they have. We have all the guns and the physical strength. We have trained ex military, places to hide in the country, hard working people trained in all kinds of skills. Dumbasses were supposed to complete their commie checklist before starting their revolution but they missed the most important one which was disarming us first.
I just got fired from my company for expressing opinions like "men who pistol whip pregnant women deserve to die".
I'm talking to my lawyer tomorrow to go over options.
I intend to make people who made this decision suffer as much as possible. I'm not backing down anymore.
A trial jury will agree with you.
Maybe also a deep sting operation into the employees to find domestic terrorists
Yep. But they are protected by big government politicians due to bribes. Sorry I mean Political donations.
Want to stop the riots? File conspiracy to commit public disturbance, and shut down Twitter, F/B, and pretty much all the main stream media, because you could also throw in contributing to the delinquency, malfeasance, and a whole string of charges. But once you shut them down, suddenly, no way for them to grab attention...then what? Sit home and cry? go into their own neighborhoods and get their butts kicked? Yeah, don't think that's going to happen.
Yep. I agree the DOJ. Dosnt.
All while allowing and promoting mass acts of violence in the streets. Yeah all these social media companies should be raided immediately.
I agree. Are they complacent with Chyna??
TBH, Twiiter is complicit in the ANTIFA violence. Just by who they support and who they ban. It's laughable that they be considered a neutral platform. Sooner or later that will come back to haunt them
Facebook and Ytube both were in on the corona hoax which is now being revealed to everyone a foolish bunch of propaganda. They are also going to not be able to shake their past on this.
Meanwhile the internet is adapting slowly, information is decentralizing. We have a million forums, a million video hosting sites and tons of other up and coming social media sites that are all unaccountable to the leftist frindge.
Nothing lasts forever, and the lefts dominance in the social media world will get evened out much like they now have to content with FOX news. And now even OANN.
I still think we ought to fight to keep these platforms free or classify them as publishers, but in the end we will find a way. Believe it or not the left is losing the ideological battle. The internet and the decentralized ways we can communicate and share the news has been murderous for the left.
I am fairly optimistic about the future. It's just like when we created the printing press. Ideas, philosophy, and debates led to the Great Enlightenment. It's not like mankind is not capable of more leaps forward for freedom and greater morality.
Everything Western Civilization Stands for and has built … is the complete opposite of what the leftist want to do to America.
There's one really easy way to reject their control of public discourse.
Go offline. Get out into your communities and take real, direct, action to help each other. Reject the illusion that you can make waves by playing within their tightly controlled artificial spaces and act within god's world, where no man can silence your voice. Not only will your real impact upon your community be much greater, but even your own life will improve substantially.
To trump you are a god fearing Jesus Christ loving man thank you for the hard work you have done for America we are united and we are with you we will not lose we are free
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Yep. I love this place. And all my Frens. Trump is best President ever
Yep. Never happen.
If everybody here (guessing 20k min) put flyers in 100 mailboxes/hands/doorsteps, that'd be 2+ Million households potentially awakened.
Ok commie!
To seize control is to steal. Don't steal.
That's why I use Gab.ai (although need work on their UI), Viewsmatter.com (also newer and needs more users, but the good thing is no trolls). But lurking around here mostly. Couldn't lurk anymore after the recent events. The delusions are getting larger and getting us to the brink of civil war.
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Commented that fox news finally deigned to have comments on one of their videos, some cuck said they were disabling comments on racial videos to prevent possible racism. Fuck fox, they are absolutely no better than the leftist outlets. Clearly they dont respect or trust their own viewers
All ism and phobia “ Political “ are used as such
Yep. The rioters are immunity on social media.
I can't wait until anti-trust pulls Google, Facebook, and Twitter into pieces.
Itll be the happiest day of my life
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Exactly. We can’t wait.
We need to stop supporting these platforms. I know it's hard, but we all need to start weening ourselves off. Thedonald.win is a great start.
I've gotten rid of them and I feel better for it. Facebook and Twitter a year ago, Google two years ago. Reddit...well, when everyone else here did. :-) Recently stopped purchasing from Amazon. As far as Apple, where do you go? Microsoft is as bad or worse for computers, and the phone market is Communist Central.
The answer is Linux, but it's a commitment. I want to walk down this list but baby steps. Got off Chrome. Got off non-encrypted texting.
And your employers can make decisions based off of what you post, and political speech is not protected...
Yep.
Is………🇺🇸 Trump 2020
Yep
Maybe ???
Yep. Trump always has something interesting to say!!! … and he and we avoid the filter of Media Manipulation
Manipulation of all aspects of or culture.
Nor just the the media.
Compliant consumers
They want possession of the entire internet so it can be reserved for the advancement of globalistic agendas and policies. Make no mistake, that's the mile that they'll take if we budge.
That is the Whole Story!!!
Me too
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The state of reddit right now is what you'd expect.
The hilarious part is that they locked down the_donald for threats against the police.
That is basically all reddit does now.
Maybe I should take a knee and apologize to Google for deleting Chrome in favor of Brave and Firefox. So sorry, Google.
Yep. I laughed at that.
I kind of expect it to be a criminal offense to b post on thedonsld.win any day now
I hope not !!!
Good thing the mods left reddit instead of sticking around for the fight.
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There are alternatives to almost all of these products. Leave these fuckers behind.
No pro life apps on Apple? TIL
There are some that will say they are a private company and they can do that.
And this is partially true, a company can decide to not make business with someone but they can't break contracts.
Imagine a guy and girl go to bakery shop and couple tell the baker "I want you to make a cake for my wedding." and the baker says "congratulations, you are beautiful couple". The guy hears that and says "no, she is my sister, I am getting married with my pet chicken", and after it the baker says "sorry I wont make a cake for you under such circunstances".
At this example the baker has the right to not do this cake, but he dont have to right to break the contract, he dont have the right to listen to that say he will do the cake and then few days after it say "Sorry I wont make a cake for you."
What internet companies are doing is breaking the contract, when you join some site its assumed they wont censor you under some situations they are now censoring people. But not only that, they remove your stuff, while creating some fake excuses to why they are doing that and try to hide they are doing that, so they want to trick you unto staying with their product.
But there is even more, sometimes they even make harder for you to use another product (like when patreon people censored people and after people moved to subscribe star, as a boycott, suddenly paypal stopped making business with subscribestar). So its like a baker that only make cakes using piss during the process and this baker not only will only will not sell other kinds of cakes to you but wants to make sure you eat only this kind of cake (or no cake at all).
ThNks I spit out my Covfefe !!!
It’s all backwards
Song about all this https://youtu.be/pBDUl6HpYJo
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I mean its not just silicon valley anymore. There are tons of corporations out there currently just virtue signaling for a bunch of violent looters, rioters and terrorists. They're taking pride in financing terror groups out open in the public lol.
Yep
I love Ben Garrison
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