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crazyfingers 146 points ago +147 / -1

The time was 3 years ago when they banned Alex Jones.

I suppose late is better than never. Unless it's too late.

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Gwoz8881 99 points ago +101 / -2

My dad was always a big supporter of free speech. Went to the university of California in Berkeley during the free speech movement and riots there. He agreed with apples decision to ban Alex Jones. I went off on him for being such a hypocrite. That’s about when I bought my first MAGA hat. I have bought like 6 by now. All from the Trump store

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DarkestMatt 59 points ago +61 / -2

The Berkeley free speech riots were not about free speech, in the same way that the George Floyd riots are not about George Floyd. Read Ayn Rand - The New Left: The Anti Industrial Revolution. She knew the left better than we do now 50 years ago.

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agile_a 38 points ago +38 / -0

Andrew Breitbart kneww the left better than you do as well

the reality is they will do anything for power. which means you must do anything to stop them. you can't tie yourself up with fictional rules against an enemy that plays by no ruless

the future of your country is at stake and you can't hamstring yourself

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agile_a 17 points ago +17 / -0

the way to take Free speech back is to have Trump and others in the government crackdown on Facebook and Twitter. I don't even care about section 230. really they should just pass a simple law or regulation stating that social media companies with more than 230 million viewers per month are not allowed to censor anything that is not illegal..

they've shown that they can't handle moderating themselves so as the ublic square they can't sensor anything unless it's illegal

boom. problem solved. And the FCC would conduct an audit of the algorithms every few months to make sure that Facebook and Twitter algorithms nott specifically targeting conservatives.

that's how you solve the problem. anything else is bullshit trying to get you to chase your taill

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nodoublestandards 10 points ago +10 / -0

"you can't tie yourself up with fictional rules against an enemy that plays by no rules"

100x this.

Our principles should determine the way we treat each other, not our enemies.

The Golden Rule of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you is only good for the first action. After that, you do unto them as they do unto you. In other words, you simply repeat their moves back to them. This is the optimal play as has been proven in Darwinian theory.

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Carry_Your_Name 9 points ago +9 / -0

Anti industrial revolution? Hasn't that been what globalism is all about? Move the factories and businesses out? America and the west as a whole has been de-industrialized for decades, it is our great president who's dedicated to bring the jobs back. This chinese virus pandemic is a warning call that accelerates this process to get the hell out of the chicom's grip.

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neurojerk 6 points ago +6 / -0

The Berkeley riots were not about free speech, you're absolutely right. They were waving around the North Vietnam flag and Mao flags to show their support and camaraderie for Marxist movements. They didn't really care about or understand the depth and purpose of free speech as it would be articulated by someone like Tocqueville or such. It was just a political tool for subversion to them. They appropriated it and cheapened it just like they've done with everything else. Like anti-racism. Just look out your window right now and you can see the wonderful results.

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I_Used_to_be_me 21 points ago +21 / -0

My dad is same generation (but went to different college) and always rants about what hypocrites his generation has become, and his go-to example is always “even berkeley and all the ones who most supported free speech, what hypocrites!”

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570dbp 20 points ago +20 / -0

It's the same with the 60s anti-war movement. Did anyone see any big protests in Berkeley about Syria? Nope. The liberals in the 60s were mostly protesting the draft because they didn’t want to be sent to Vietnam. They never cared for peace. They only cared about saving their skins. The liberals are the biggest hypocrites. As long as it is NIMBY, then all is well for them.

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I_Used_to_be_me 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yup. My dad’s friends were all hippies, but he wasn’t really one himself. He tagged along to all the concerts because he’s a huge music fan and loved that scene, was just generally into the music and culture, but never got into the movement really. He didn’t want to go to Vietnam, but had he been drafted he would have went. He was slightly younger, so he was part of the lottery draft, and got really lucky on the draw (like, literally the last or second to last birthday drawn that year) so he never fought. A lot of his friends did though, and many died. His friends today are the ones that fought, only remained friends with a couple of the more hippie types

I remember when we visited DC on a family vaca he spent a lot of time at the ‘nam memorial. Only time I saw him emotional, and he looked for and found every name of one of his friends and told me about them/times he had with them

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knightofday 4 points ago +4 / -0

Honest truth

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MAGAholic 0 points ago +1 / -1

How is he feeling about that now 2 years later?

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Please_Clap 32 points ago +32 / -0

I don't support everything Alex Jones has said or done but I do fully 100% support his right to say any fucking thing he wants to. That's a hill I'd die on.

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TwoPlusTwoEqualsFour 15 points ago +15 / -0

There is poison in the tap water.

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plznosteal 15 points ago +15 / -0

THEY’RE TURNING THE FRIGGIN FROGS GAY

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DefineTheLine 6 points ago +6 / -0

POT BELLY GOBLINS!

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hello-mayo 2 points ago +2 / -0

HITLER TOOK THE DMT!

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DL535 1 point ago +1 / -0

BILL

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agile_a 7 points ago +7 / -0

the way to take Free speech back is to have Trump and others in the government crackdown on Facebook and Twitter. I don't even care about section 230. really they should just pass a simple law or regulation stating that social media companies with more than 230 million viewers per month are not allowed to censor anything that is not illegal..

they've shown that they can't handle moderating themselves so as the ublic square they can't sensor anything unless it's illegal

boom. problem solved. And the FCC would conduct an audit of the algorithms every few months to make sure that Facebook and Twitter algorithms nott specifically targeting conservatives.

that's how you solve the problem. anything else is bullshit trying to get you to chase your taill

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malthrax 2 points ago +2 / -0

I honestly cannot say the same thing about Don Lemon or Chris Cuomo.

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Necrovoter 11 points ago +11 / -0

President Trump should set up a special task force with Alex Jones in charge, , get some conservative judges lined up for warrants , and tell Alex the gloves are off - legally speaking.

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

The time was 3 years ago when they banned Alex Jones.

That was a sad day. Now it’s open season on evan the President‘ s words.

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pmyourcovfefes 6 points ago +6 / -0

They do. They just don’t get enough campaign contributions from people who care to protect free speech. It’s all a money scam in DC. Highest bidder wins and right now too many politicians get contributions to not protect free speech.

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Peashout 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yup, they are being paid to be communists, not protect the constitution.