Kneeling on a neck does not kill you. I just googled the autopsy for Tony Timpa and, surprise, almost identical to George Floyd.
“the toxic effects of cocaine and the stress associated with physical restraint.”
Heart attacks cause people to think they can't breath because the oxygen isn't being pumped throughout the body. Kneel on the side of the neck does not stop breathing. I've training BJJ\Grapping for years and you cannot choke anyone out like that. If someone tries to put pressure on your neck you will instinctively turn to the side because the side of your neck is pretty strong. I've had people shove their forarm into the side of my neck while they're on top of me as hard as the possibly can, and it sucks, but it isn't that bad and it will definitely not kill you or impair breathing.
Cocaine and Meth and other similar drugs increase your risk of heart attack when you're on them, and they can cause permanent heart damage as well. You can argue that police should have better ways of de-escalating situations so stress doesn't exacerbate heart issues of drug users, but it isn't police brutality and it isn't murder.
Putting pressure on the carotid sinus can cause a vagal reaction which slows the heart and can drop blood pressure.
Source: I am a doc and was taught the technique of carotid massage in medical school. You can also google the term. This is a dangerous way to restrain people.
Would you say that normal healthy people are at risk of heart attack from that pressure, or just people with poor heart health such as illegal drug users? I did some searches but couldn't find any relevant info. Obviously 2 people isn't a representative sample, but these two were both previous drug users and had the drugs in their system when they died. If this is a common police tactic I would expect to see people who are not on drugs at the time die the same way.
Kneeling on a neck does not kill you. I just googled the autopsy for Tony Timpa and, surprise, almost identical to George Floyd.
“the toxic effects of cocaine and the stress associated with physical restraint.”
Heart attacks cause people to think they can't breath because the oxygen isn't being pumped throughout the body. Kneel on the side of the neck does not stop breathing. I've training BJJ\Grapping for years and you cannot choke anyone out like that. If someone tries to put pressure on your neck you will instinctively turn to the side because the side of your neck is pretty strong. I've had people shove their forarm into the side of my neck while they're on top of me as hard as the possibly can, and it sucks, but it isn't that bad and it will definitely not kill you or impair breathing.
Cocaine and Meth and other similar drugs increase your risk of heart attack when you're on them, and they can cause permanent heart damage as well. You can argue that police should have better ways of de-escalating situations so stress doesn't exacerbate heart issues of drug users, but it isn't police brutality and it isn't murder.
Putting pressure on the carotid sinus can cause a vagal reaction which slows the heart and can drop blood pressure.
Source: I am a doc and was taught the technique of carotid massage in medical school. You can also google the term. This is a dangerous way to restrain people.
Would you say that normal healthy people are at risk of heart attack from that pressure, or just people with poor heart health such as illegal drug users? I did some searches but couldn't find any relevant info. Obviously 2 people isn't a representative sample, but these two were both previous drug users and had the drugs in their system when they died. If this is a common police tactic I would expect to see people who are not on drugs at the time die the same way.