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WishdoctorsSong 57 points ago +74 / -17

Yeah except the anti-vaxxers are the ones with doctors backing them up and the pro-vaccers are supported by Bill Gates and Merck.

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infinitysupreme 26 points ago +28 / -2

Being against forced vaccinations can have nothing to do with autism. Both my wife and I had severe reactions to vaccines, and don't want our child to experience the same. Do we not have rights in America? Freedoms?

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CountryState_of_Mind 13 points ago +14 / -1

AGREED. Vaccinate if you want, but don't expect EVERYONE to agree that they should do the same. FREEDOM.

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cmndr_pepe_spacefrce 2 points ago +5 / -3

As severe as the diseases the cure?

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markscomputer 3 points ago +4 / -1

Polio is effectively cured; handful of annual cases deep in bumfuckistan. Yet we still mandate all kids get it. why?

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Farmerbob1 -2 points ago +9 / -11

Have you ever watched a documentary about what Polio can do children?

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asparaghosi 17 points ago +18 / -1

Is it the one about Bill Gates' polio vaccine leading to paralysis of nearly half a million children in India between 2000 and 2017? I'll bet it's good.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/06/28/534403083/mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-cause-more-paralysis-than-wild-polio?t=1591385815800

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infinitysupreme 12 points ago +14 / -2

Polio is a terrible disease.

Are you aware that polio vaccines are now the leading cause of polio in the world?

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polio-cases-now-caused-vaccine-wild-virus-67287290

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VyseLegendaire 21 points ago +25 / -4

I'm no science genius, but the entire movement against vaccines is not based on one retracted paper.

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CountryState_of_Mind 9 points ago +10 / -1

EXACTLY👆

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Farmerbob1 -10 points ago +5 / -15

Correct. It is based on one retracted study and a lot of stupid comparisons between flawed vaccines and well-made vaccines.

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MAGAnaut 10 points ago +14 / -4

How do you know which vaccines fall into either of those two categories? Doesn't the very existence of "flawed vaccines" contradict into the blanket statement we hear repeated endlessly that "vaccines are safe and effective?"

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ShalomRPh 17 points ago +27 / -10

Not to mention, he had financial interest in a company making mercury-free vaccines, and his medical license was revoked in the UK for his part in this.

He never even tried to say all vaccines are bad, only those containing mercury. The idiot anti-vaxxers grabbed onto his bullshit and ran even further with it than he did.

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MenicusMoldbug 38 points ago +41 / -3

Over $4B in tax-payer funds has been paid out to vaxx victims over the past few decades.

No one ever mentions that.

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beta-detector 13 points ago +14 / -1

.. or the fact that CDC recommended childhood vaccines (schedule) were NEVER tested for safety as a cocktail (all-in-one) shots. Don't tell anyone ;)

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ShalomRPh 9 points ago +15 / -6

I'm not saying there aren't problems with some vaccines. The DTwP vaccine was vicious; I still have some nerve damage in my arm from the one I got in 1975.

But I didn't go running to the government for compensation.

(They withdrew that one, replaced with DTaP which is supposed to be safer.)

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beta-detector 1 point ago +2 / -1

Shhhhh.. don't let the cats out.

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ahmrbond 1 point ago +1 / -0

This was turning into an interesting discussion on vaccines. Please don't call people "idiots" just because they believe something different to you. It undermines your viewpoint and just breeds negative emotions. Calm down and state your case in a more "scientific" manner.

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Hayride 14 points ago +16 / -2

Yes, the whole "movement" is based on a paper that's now retracted. There's been no personal testimonies of harm. There's been no payouts to families whose child has been harmed. Remember, you should never read the insert, the pamphlet will tell you all you need to know. {Bill Gates smile} Be the first on your block to take the WuFlu vaccine. That's a good boy.

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MAGAnaut 11 points ago +11 / -0

It's a lot more than "one paper," ignoring the massive amount of scientific studies and parent testimony that has happened since then is disingenuous. Watch the two Vaxxed documentaries, Del Bigtree's Vaccine Safety Project presentation, notice how pro-vax defenders never actually show up to debate these issues, they just repeat "safe and effective" ad nauseam and slander anyone who wants to ask questions.

By the way, Here is a number of tweets from Trump before he was elected questioning the link between vaccines and autism. Trump knows the truth and we should consider ourselves blessed for it.

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MakeAmericaVapeAgain 7 points ago +7 / -0

there are so many things Trump knows, i wish he had fewer enemies and more allies to really get things going.

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DavidBrockShill 7 points ago +7 / -0

Apparently it's anti vax to point out that I don't feel comfortable taking a vaccine that is literally being rushed to market so fast that normal processes will be ignored and or relaxed to get it out there asap

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r_u_srs_srsly 3 points ago +5 / -2

bro, we can at least partially agree that vaccines arent always effective and are used as a money grab (flu shots are only 40% effective in the best years) but everyone is told to get one and insurance always pays 100% to the manufacturer.

but gtfo with that flat-earth stuff